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12-14-2017, 07:49 AM
I've maybe read too much Roosh, but he's convinced me that we are at the last cycle of our civilization before it collapses.
It makes perfect sense that it must end in order for it to regrow healthier and for true progress towards righteous ideals be made. It should rather be seen as a good thing, but we should have a clearer idea of what we can expect from the near future.
There will for sure be a crash in the next decade or two, and it may be large enough where it leads to a war that can reset our mindset and civilization. Wars have a unifying effect and I think that can solve many of our problems.
Do any of you have theories on what our timeline looks like?
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12-14-2017, 08:08 AM
You read too much Roosh. There was a civil war in this country, the Great depression, two World Wars, and the specter of communism. Things are not great but they have been far worse, focus on improving your lot in life rather than impending collapse, you will be happier.
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12-14-2017, 11:50 AM
When I read the title of this thread, I thought of the same thing as Atlanta Man: focus on your own life, and make most of the time you have in this life. Now I need to go do that too...
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12-14-2017, 11:53 AM
They probably said the same thing before Rome's republic became an empire.
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12-14-2017, 11:56 AM
Roosh also had a podcast on the blackpill.
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12-14-2017, 11:57 AM
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12-14-2017, 12:22 PM
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12-14-2017, 06:19 PM
I am no fan of Islam, but have recently come to agree that it's better than modern progressivism.
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12-14-2017, 09:19 PM
Yes, collapse is very much looming but it's due to environmental issues that most here don't take seriously.
For instance, part of the manosphere eschatology is that the dysfunction of male/female relations will cause birth rates to plummet and we'll have a population implosion. This flies in the face of statistics that shows the earth's population continuing to grow and that it's already so high that we're sucking the earth's resources dry well above the rate of replenishment.
I'm not going to belabor the above point because I know I'm in the minority on this one, but maybe a few people here will do a little more research with an open mind.
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12-14-2017, 11:10 PM
The notion that you can just ignore macro trends and "focus on improving yourself" is bollocks. How can you determine the proper way to "improve yourself" without taking into account which way the world is heading? I don't have the time to wax poetic on this right now, but here's a very basic illustration.
If you're 18 years old and deciding how to proceed with your life, having some concept of societal/systemic stability is necessary data to help you decide whether you should pursue the long game of medicine/law etc for maximum lifetime career efficiency, or if you should jump straight into make hay while the sun shines mode to get as prepared as possible before an incoming meltdown happens. There is no point to gear up for a payoff that will come no sooner than a decade hence if you've only got 5 years, nor is there a point to prep for a collapse that never comes.
I know someone is going to object to this with the claim that nobody can see the future so you might as well just do what you wanna do, but that's a cop-out. You've got the responsibility to yourself to make the most informed decision possible. Can you predict exactly what's going to happen? Of course not. Is it a good idea to bank on a long and fruitful 30 year career as a truck driver in 2017? Probably not. As societal tensions rise, is it wise to keep track and do your best to make sure you're somewhere safe if or when the machetes come out? I'd say so.
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12-15-2017, 10:24 AM
It will happen, but nobody can predict when. The only thing you can do is to assure youself that you have enough guns and ammunition and then go enjoy the rest of your life.
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12-15-2017, 10:49 AM
Yea sometimes I wonder if it's better to be blissfully naïve and shrug off any bad news the way women seem to.
It cracks me up hearing anyone under 40 even talk about retirement as I'm sure at minimum there will be a financial meltdown before you could theoretically retire anyways, and more than likely another global war that destroys most infrastructure. You can't even hold a job for more than 5 years without some cataclysmic change in your industry that displaces your job one way or another.
We're in the final stages of relative comfort and luxury where you can ignore problems less and less. It's bizarre how many Americans are blind to the decay around them.
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12-16-2017, 01:46 PM
Some very interesting viewpoints on the matter. I agree that the vast majority of posters aren't strict ideologues nor do they have any strong vested interest on any side and as such the best and most prudent approach would be to 'game the system', whatever it is.
If we do descend into brutal civil war and anarchy there will be few winners among us to be honest (kiss the pussytrain goodbye boys) and I do pray that we can hold it together at least for a couple of decades. There is still much to see and to do. Further, I believe most here to be too rational and intelligent to truly find common cause with any of the prospective sides to the likely conflict. I do find the idea of some sort of a foreign base (perhaps in Colombia or SEA) enticing given the ever growing domestic uncertainties in much of the western hemisphere, though financial constraints prevent this in my case atm.
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12-16-2017, 01:53 PM
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12-16-2017, 11:31 PM
Federalist Papers had the republic lasting about 150 years, so be fortunate that we lasted this long. Given the national debt as it is and no one is addressing it, I would contend that the decline is happening, and I would believe it to be partially by design or at the least accidentally convenient. I don't believe that we will have a situation like the Weimar Republic where the whole country went down all together, but more like how the Roman Empire broke apart. What most likely will happen is that states that are relatively functional will break apart from the thoroughly dysfunctional ones as they get fed up pulling their weight and the weight of the deadbeats, either by a civil war or through a civil separation like what you see with the Brexit. This means that you should most likely look at states that are well run and have real assets and property in those states if you can. When is it going to happen, hell if I know, but just in case start saving up for a cabin in Montana or Tennessee. Outside of that,
enjoy the decline.
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