Quote: (12-15-2017 01:47 PM)Vill@in Wrote:
But why do you want a bigger dick?
Is it adding value to YOUR life or hers? And if you say it's adding value to YOUR life because it adds value to hers (sexual) then that's supplication behavior. Because you're basing your value dependent on hers.
Going to the gym and building your body is totally different. You can actually DO things when you're stronger. Build things, carry more things, protect your loved ones better, etc.
What other things can you do with a big dick? Hang clothes from it? Swing it around like a helicopter? Those are nothing more than parlor tricks. Yes, I'm being facetious but my point is having a big dick really doesn't add value to your life.
I'm average in size and I've never had a complaint. That's not to say that girls haven't complained to their friends (I don't know) but who gives a flying fuck if they do? If their pussy needs more than 6 inches for pleasure then that's on her for being a whore.
I'm not on this earth to bring pleasure to women. I'm on this earth for them to bring pleasure to me.
I think you are talking past my point here.
Your argument is very valid. An average dick is more than enough to satisfy a woman. As you said you are also having sex to satisfy yourself, not her. In that case it doesn't matter. If you spend 20 hours a week hitting the bars or clubs or otherwise pursuing women you will get laid much more both in the short term and in the long term because of greater experience than if you spend those 10-20 hours growing your dick.
What I am saying is that developing a particularly large dick can be a tool in the game. I am not espousing big dick game. It is pretty much a given that for most women a larger dick is more sexually fulfilling than a smaller one up to a certain point. If it is way to large and it hurts then that can be a problem. But if you go from 6 inches to a solid 8 inches and become much thicker then she will get more sexual pleasure if you know what you are doing and you can get more out of her, again if you know what you are doing in the relationship.
Sex to an extent is a bargaining tool. Women thoroughly view it this way. Forget 2017 where it is increasingly growing that women will discretely or sometimes openly go out for random sex. Since the beginning of humanity sex was used both as a bargain and as a means to procreate. Look at married couples. The more a man is hopelessly tied into a marriage the less the woman ends up having sex with him and the less enthusiastic and "good" she becomes in bed. When I say hopeless I don't mean all marriages are hopeless, I am talking about the large and growing percentage of marriages that move towards falling apart and usually end in divorce, oftentimes a bitter one.
A big dick does not solve any of these problems. It is just a tool. Let's forget about having a big dick and use another example. Let's say you have an average dick but through knowledge and experience you know how to provide an amazing/spectacular experience to a given girl. Compare that to a really lackluster performance on your part. Which scenario, if both guys have an average dick, will have the girl more likely to eat out of your palm in both the short term but especially the long term? I am in no way saying this is the only important thing. I have also experienced myself many times where my sexual performance was terrible and the girl was infatuated for other reasons. I've even had an experience where I dated a girl in her 30's who loved sex but before we ever got into bed she said despite loving sex she had never had an orgasm. I gave her her first orgasm (she didn't admit it, but with experience you can tell these things). My dick isn't 10 inches, the experience was more about how I handled her in bed and the psychology of it in her mind. The funny thing is, which will add to your point, after I gave her that orgasm she broke up with me shortly after because I wasn't committed.
What I am saying is you are right, a big dick is not at the top of the list of things that will fulfill you or any woman you are with. As I've said, if you want tons of notches, flags, or quality women and a great life sitting around making your dick bigger is a very low return on investment.
What I am saying is that a particularly large dick *can* give a man a sort of power over many women when he has the game to get that far with them that an average penis cannot. I am pretty sure that everyone here knows that power can be a very useful tool in life when used appropriately and when it doesn't backfire on you.
For the hundredth time, penis enlargement for almost all men is a very low return on investment and there are tons of other things that are more important and will give you a better red pill life. Becoming wealthy, achieving fame, location independence, living in a city that you love, living in a house/apartment in a great area, social connections, a ripped and strong body, a fulfilling job, reading books that expand your mind and your realization of reality. All of these things are examples of things that will get you much further than penis enlargement.
That doesn't mean, however, that growing your dick to monster size through hard work and determination is entirely merit less. The thing is it just depends on your individual goals and how much time and energy you have to do it.
About your body versus dick size examples, you are off the mark. I know you said you were being facetious to an extent, but you are building a straw man here in a sense.
I've both had an amazing body and years later been majorly obese. For the purposes of this forum and reality, going to the gym and building a big body is just a relatively quick and easy way of upping your value in society, but particularly with women. This is not the 1800's where we are building log cabins to survive the Illinois winter where we need physical strength. Unless you are an athlete that is trying to earn a living through using the gym, for the most part you lift weights in order to develop a sexy body. I put it that way because that is what it is. A developed chest and arms with a flat and ripped stomach and proportionate glutes and legs makes women's psychology scream fuck me. It is a way, without talking, that you signal that you are hard working, motivated, goal oriented, and also physically able to use your body to provide them pleasure both physically and psychologically.
Going to the gym to better defend yourself is valid, but for the most part it is stupid. I say this having years of experience in the weight room and also a fair amount of experience in combat sports. A strong body can help you physically dominate another men whether for offensive or self defense purposes, but it is hardly ever used for that purpose. If you fight a less powerful guy that knows how to fight or has a weapon (whether gun or knife or something else), you will most likely lose unless you get lucky. If you want a powerful body AND combat readiness this will take years and years or working at a form of combat or martial art. You don't bicep curl 185 lbs and walk in a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu school and suddenly dominate guys that have been doing it for 20 years just because they are small. Benching 350 lbs doesn't matter in a fist fight if you are fighting a guy that knows how to move so that you cannot land a punch.
If you have a strong body from lifting or exercise and you attack someone you will probably end up in a courtroom or the back of a police car anyway, and that is if you are lucky. Best case scenario you win and run away.
If you think you are big and strong and that matters ask some of the guys that live in Bangkok about being aggressive on the street. I have never been to BKK, but I have been other places and what they say, while particularly relevant to that city and country, is true generally. It doesn't matter if you are 6'2'' and 225 lbs of solid muscle, if you start shit on the street you will get swarmed and get the shit beat out of you.
I am a pretty big guy and any time I am perceived as slightly aggressive I either end up dealing with the law or a group of 2 or 3 guys step to me. Even Mike Tyson got his ass handed to him in prison when he got incarcerated because an actual fight or combat is different than benching 5 times a week.
Bottom line for most of our purposes a big strong body does two things. First and most importantly it gets female attention and gets them turned on. Second, and this is a double edged sword, at best it screams to other men stay the fuck away from me because I won't be easy to fuck with. A lot of times, and I am not sure how big you are to have experienced this, but big guys get targeted for harassment by other men. This shit is particularly common in certain cities, parts of the world, and venues. If you've spent enough time in certain areas I'm sure you've seen smaller drunk guys harass or threaten a big guy to either make themselves feel big or to prove a point.
Building a huge cock on the other hand has many fewer obvious advantages to the outside world, but it still has positives and very few negatives. Even if you have 10 inches (which is around the size most claim Mandingo is and that's why I keep using that number), you aren't going to hang your cock out in the wind as you walk down the street in much of this world. Despite that women can tell. Not exactly, but they get a sense. It is kind of like a guy with a really impressive physique in the winter up North. Yes his body is pretty much entirely covered up, and unless you have seen him in the summer or whatever you can't tell if he is ripped or not, but most people can tell if a guy is big or powerful even when in full winter clothes by his proportions but especially the subcommunications in his movement, walk, and behavior.
This is true to an extent with penis size as well with women. I'm 6'2'' and have approached women while sitting in my car and haven't gotten out. Some of those women legitimately argued with me before I got them out on a date and said I was 5'7'' because of how I appeared. These are called retards, either because they don't care enough, have no frame of reference, or aren't fully paying attention.
Most women with a certain level of experience, and this doesn't mean tons of sexual partners and can even be found in 18 year old girls, can guess which range you fall into in terms of penis size shortly within your initial contact. This is a factor in terms of where they place you in their minds. Having a 10 inch dick isn't and never will be a 100% give him the green light to do whatever he wants with me. Often times it can cause women to reject you or hold out on sex with you.
Many girls with some experience will next a guy that has a huge cock or at best put him in the vacation dick or booty call category. The reason is simple. If he is huge he is more able, all else being equal, to find girls that will fawn over him. This will lead men to be unfaithful and goes back to the power dynamic I was speaking on.
6 inches, cool, with game, a steady life, and career, is generally boyfriend and future hubby material. Yes, 6 inches can be just as likely to pump and dump a girl as 10 inches, but it is easier to control.
I am only barely over 7 inches myself so it isn't like I am 10 inches and trying to bolster my own situation.
6 inches on a guy is ok you won't give me sex, if I have good game and options I will find someone else. 6 inches in a girl's mind is I hope he knows my anatomy, my clit, and I hope to God he enjoys eating pussy. Doesn't mean she will be unhappy or unsatisfied with that size and it is very very possible to have her hooked, but how many 6 inchers are walking around any given city or town on earth?
10 inches on a guy is like oh yeah you have a headache or are holding out sex, ok I'm going to call Maria or Tisha or Kimberly and he will have the pussy wet before I hit her door but only after she licks my nutsack until I say so. 10 inches in a girl's mind is fuck, I told every girl I knew and they all want to "see it" now. These bitches want my boyfriend and/or hubby's cock elbow deep in them. I might be a bitch at times, but I better keep him happy.
That is just the reality of it. I'm not saying a bumbling retard with no money, no life, and no game that has 10 inches will have that lifestyle with women. But a guy with smooth game and at least a decent life with 10 inches has the world of women open to him. The world is his oyster.
Villain, I'm not encouraging you one way or the other. I have nothing to gain really by you agreeing, and actually if you magically end up with 10 inches in a few years that is one more porn star cock walking around swooping up the girls. But don't think penis size is irrelevant and don't buy into that the size doesn't matter unless it is tiny or huge shit.