[Kona]

(12-15-2017 09:25 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 08:38 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Hey guys. I was skeptical at first, but now I see that you've put a lot of thought and research into this topic.

I've got a two inch cock (when fully erect). How much gainz can I realistically achieve?

By the way, I already own some 10LB, 20LB and 30LB weights that I have used to tone my arm muscles. I also have lots of 100LB test fishing line (maybe it will be useful).

How to get started on becoming the man of my dreams?

You can probably gain half an inch if you hang 50 pounds off your dick for 5 hours a day consistently over two decades. I suggest you get started.

Honestly though you are in SEA right? I would love to hit my goal in terms of penis size and be able to be location independent and take a stop in SEA at some point. That shit would be epic.

I've read quite a bit of this thread, and frankly im a little confused. I'm a live-and-let-live kinda guy, so do your thing. No judgement here.

Just this post right here though. You do realize you can travel pretty much anywhere in the world, regardless of the size of your penis,dont you?

Also, why to hang out with Suits, do you need to increase the size of your penis? Did he tell you that?

Aloha!

[EndsExpect]

(12-15-2017 12:48 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

I can assure you, not through any direct evidence but rather obvious intuition, that the porn star Mandingo has been paid thousands and thousands of dollars through the years by both men and women to sleep with WOMEN aside from his porn work. This is because of his penis.
Who is probably better off with women, George Clooney (probably above average dick but not by much) or Mandingo. I would venture Clooney. But that doesn't change the fact that Mandingo is being paid to use his penis because of its size.

I personally have a ton of respect for Indian and East Asian guys and I legitimately believe that there are millions of them with super tight game and great looks. I know for a fact that there are tons of them, whether in their own countries or abroad, that women find sexy as hell and they are smooth as any players in the West. They just happen to look different than Westerners and speak differently. But is it any coincidence that generally worldwide these two groups are both associated (whether correctly or not) with small penises and being the least desired by nearly all groups of women?

Stacks... I just want to address this kind of silly thinking. Men in general watch too much Porn. It's a simple fact. Porn represents MALE fantasy. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that you can learn about sex from watching porn.

Mandingo represents a MALE fantasy. 95% of black guys are under 7" and they want to be able to imagine having a huge cock. Bisexual white guys get off on watching Mandingo bang a white chick in the same way Mexican guys love a Tijuana Donkey Show... and about half of those white guys watching are imagining jumping out of the closet and sucking Mandingos dick themselves. That interracial cuckold porn is mostly for bisexuals and closet gay dudes.

If you look at the porn stars that WOMEN want to fuck... I don't even see Mandingo on the list. The top guy in every single poll is James Deen, and by wild margins. He does not have the biggest dick in porn.

My point is this... Porn is male fantasy, not reality. Specifically porn is a Western White Male Fantasy... since that is the largest target audience. Believing that Porn represents reality is like believing the Avengers are real. It's ridiculous.

[Suits]

(12-16-2017 02:49 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Also, why to hang out with Suits, do you need to increase the size of your penis? Did he tell you that?

Are you honestly not aware of my requirements for all forum meet-ups?

[StackGsMan]

(12-17-2017 09:25 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:48 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

I can assure you, not through any direct evidence but rather obvious intuition, that the porn star Mandingo has been paid thousands and thousands of dollars through the years by both men and women to sleep with WOMEN aside from his porn work. This is because of his penis.
Who is probably better off with women, George Clooney (probably above average dick but not by much) or Mandingo. I would venture Clooney. But that doesn't change the fact that Mandingo is being paid to use his penis because of its size.

I personally have a ton of respect for Indian and East Asian guys and I legitimately believe that there are millions of them with super tight game and great looks. I know for a fact that there are tons of them, whether in their own countries or abroad, that women find sexy as hell and they are smooth as any players in the West. They just happen to look different than Westerners and speak differently. But is it any coincidence that generally worldwide these two groups are both associated (whether correctly or not) with small penises and being the least desired by nearly all groups of women?

Stacks... I just want to address this kind of silly thinking. Men in general watch too much Porn. It's a simple fact. Porn represents MALE fantasy. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that you can learn about sex from watching porn.

Mandingo represents a MALE fantasy. 95% of black guys are under 7" and they want to be able to imagine having a huge cock. Bisexual white guys get off on watching Mandingo bang a white chick in the same way Mexican guys love a Tijuana Donkey Show... and about half of those white guys watching are imagining jumping out of the closet and sucking Mandingos dick themselves. That interracial cuckold porn is mostly for bisexuals and closet gay dudes.

If you look at the porn stars that WOMEN want to fuck... I don't even see Mandingo on the list. The top guy in every single poll is James Deen, and by wild margins. He does not have the biggest dick in porn.

My point is this... Porn is male fantasy, not reality. Specifically porn is a Western White Male Fantasy... since that is the largest target audience. Believing that Porn represents reality is like believing the Avengers are real. It's ridiculous.

I originally started the thread to see if any other guys on this forum were interested in taking up penis enlargement to keep tabs on each other. I in no way intended to start a discussion of does penis size matter or how much does it matter or discussions about average penis size and sex and all of the topics that came out in these three pages.

I simply wanted to start a thread similar to those body building and/or fat loss/cutting threads in other sections of the forum where guys talk about their progress.

When I bring up the porn star Mandingo it isn't because I am a cuck or interested in being a cuck. I brought him up as a relatively well known example of a guy with a particularly large dick. Should I scour the gyms in my city and wait in the showers to snag a pic of a guy with a similar size dick to him or just use the guy as an example?

I agree totally that porn is heavily about male fantasy, and I agree to a very large extent that it does not represent the reality of sex or exactly portray what women want sexually. You are correct, for the most part porn is an increasingly fucked up way of profiting on male psycho sexuality by portraying scenarios that are entirely unrealistic for the majority of the earth in order to make a profit for the creators of the content. I also agree with others both on this forum and different places that I've heard this argument that porn is bad for the male brain and psyche. All of this I agree with you on entirely. I was using a guy from porn as an example, not my hero in life or someone I want to fuck my wife.

All of this being said it doesn't change my original point or idea. I believe having a larger penis CAN BE a TOOL to increased power in romantic/sexual relations with women. Please read that comment carefully and word for word because this is where all this extra bullshit is coming from. Nowhere in that comment did I say a large dick is a prerequisite to having great sex. Nowhere in that comment did I say a large dick is necessary for having lots of attractive women sleep with you. Nowhere in that comment did I say a large dick will put you at the front of the line with women whether or not you are great or lacking in other areas of life or game.

All I am saying is that a large dick *CAN* be a *TOOL* that allows you to do certain things that increase your power. Read my posts in this thread. I have said several times that penis size and penis enlargement is low return on investment and should be low on the list of things a guy focuses on in order to achieve his goals with women.

My point is that it can be useful if you know what to do with it and how it can fit in the relationship dynamic. Not for every girl, not in every relationship, and not all the time in a relationship where it does in fact play a role.

I feel like every guy that seems to be losing their shit over the whole penis size issue either feels inadequate and hopeless about it and wants to lash out or legitimately understands that a huge dick is not a REQUIREMENT for anything in most cases. Just because it is not a REQUIREMENT doesn't mean it isn't a huge BONUS.

I've said this before so don't draw out what I am saying in the wrong light, but it is to a much much much much much much smaller extent like developing a great body. I doubt too many people experienced with women believe it is a 100% requirement and necessity to get lots of girls or hot girls to have a top 1% body. But I'm going out on a limb here and I'll make the claim that all else being equal a hotter body can be helpful in getting hotter women. Is that beyond the realm of reality?

Same argument for developing a bigger dick, except it is much less important, for lack of a better word, than having a great body. It can be helpful in the male female dynamic. The major difference is a lot of times having a great body or a lot of other things guys trying to improve themselves focus on mainly helps during the earlier stages of a relationship. By that I don't just mean the approach, but for lack of a better word let's say the first months or years or knowing a girl depending on how fast you move along. This doesn't mean that having a great body is pointless or not relevant well into a relationship, just that the biggest bang for your buck with a great looking body is during the approach and building up her sexual desire for you.

Having a big dick works generally on the opposite end. It is something that allows you power and more control during the middle or later stages of a relationship. As anyone here knows having a huge dick doesn't mean shit if she wants nothing to do with you within 10 seconds of you approaching. But in a long term relationship having a big dick can give you a huge edge if you know how to use it (and I don't just mean how to use it sexually). Having a big dick usually causes most girls pain, especially if it is particularly big. With time and lots of sex with that same big dick they become more used to the dimensions and enjoy the sex much more. A vagina has a limited amount of expansion and dimensions, but it will accommodate a penis that regularly enters it to a certain degree depending on the individual anatomy of the girl and the vagina. This is part of the reason why in the long term a big cock can be a useful tool with a given girl.


I'm starting to despise the term alpha, but for lack of a better word I will use it. Alpha doesn't mean never getting cheated on and if it does it is false. Alpha just means the most socially/physically/emotionally/financially, or any combination of those things, dominant guy in a given pool of guys. Alphas can get cheated on and cucked too depending on the scenario, relationship, and what is going on.

Case in point Scottie Pippen's wife of many years cucked him by cheating with a rapper. Scottie Pippen, while not necessarily the greatest alpha in the history of the world, is a person that it is hard to not qualify as particularly alpha, at least on the surface. Huge height, muscular body, very athletic, famous, beyond wealthy. Dude still got cucked. I'm sure you will agree it wasn't because he wasn't alpha but rather because to put it very vaguely he started slipping in terms of either his game or caring about his wife's actions.

His wife, although she cheated with a physically smaller guy, did so with a guy that had more value at the given time. She didn't do so with the random guy learning game at the club or getting laid by two different hot women a month. She cheated with a guy that has his pick of 10's at pretty much any given moment and I can assure you part of the reason she picked him was to embarrass Pippen.


When a girl is being vindictive or just wants to cheat she doesn't call up the smallest and nerdiest guy she knows or hit the club dreaming of sleeping with the guy with the beer belly and the 6 incher. The goal, whether she achieves it or not, is to have a physically dominant man pound her to destroy her bf/husband/man's psyche. This isn't necessarily the case at all if she is legit leaving the guy as then she is looking for something different, but rather when she is looking to spite cheat.


Keep in mind women are wired very differently than us as men, but some things are the same. If a guy goes out to cheat on his girl, and here I am talking about your regular guy and not a player that has multiple relationships or tons of ONS, he tries to do so with a girl that is physically hot as hell despite her personality. When you want to cheat in a limited capacity as a man you look at ass and tits and face and things like that, you don't sit and think gee golly gosh I hope the ONS I am looking for tonight has a great personality and can make me laugh.

Women are the same in a sense. If you are in a committed relationship and you trigger her in some way she is going to search out a tall, built, and hung guy. That doesn't mean she will find him or even if she does that will be the guy she chooses for that random sexual encounter, but that is the image burning in her mind as she puts on her panties and dress.


I don't have a huge cock myself, so it's not like I'm trying to inflate this image for my benefit. But denying this underlying and hidden reality is straight up denial. It doesn't factor in 100% of the time or even all that much which is why guys here get their panties in a twist and it is also why I said low on the list and low return on investment. But it doesn't destroy the fact that it has SOME relevance.


I am not black or white, but since you threw out the black cucking white scenario above I'll give you another example that disregards blacks. Before I say anything else I in no way think blacks are particularly hung. I'd imagine that most fall in the same range as Europeans in terms of averages with at most less than an inch difference. This doesn't mean all black guys are the same size as all white guys with possibly only an extra inch, I am just saying the averages are probably very close to each other.

But going back to white guys. Are you honestly going to tell me that a portion of the white god factor in places like East and SouthEast Asia doesn't have to do with a reality and/or fantasy and/or psychosexuality of the physically taller and larger white man conquering the asian female? I understand that being foreign itself is a bigger part as is looking up to Western culture and the wealth that being Western often promises, and also that the white God factor isn't as forceful as some make it out to be and is possibly fading, but what I said above is a part of the underlying psychology of the attraction.

If you deny that you are once again in denial. The fact that the blue eyed white guy is 6'2'' and 205 lbs and the Vietnamese guy that is courting the girl in Hanoi is 5'7'' and 145 lbs does play a big role in the underlying sexual dynamic. It isn't everything and it doesn't mean the white guy will get the girl or win in the scenario, but it is a pink elephant in the room.


This is the devious and hidden nature of penis size. The fact that guys with game know how to throw this issue totally out of the equation or that a lot of guys with huge cocks are inept or think that having a big dick is all they need doesn't change the fact that it can be really relevant.


In the end, to back to your point about the porn industry and big dick obsession stemming from that, was the ancient Greek God of fertility Priapus a part of the current porn industry? This is a worshipped being that there are figurines of from over 2 thousand years ago where he has an erection the size of his actual body.

Worship of phallic symbols and large penises has taken place the world over particularly in religions and societies before the take over of most of the world by the major monotheistic religions.

A large penis, aside from any argument of how it is relevant to sex with a woman, has always been used to represent sexual prowess and has been associated with fertility.

[AneroidOcean]

If you want to jelq or whatever else to try to increase your dick dimensions, I guess go for it.

However, learning to get into a woman's head will always be an exponentially more rewarding pursuit.

If you're below average enough in this area AND average or above average in most other areas, great, work on it.

Otherwise, I can think of about 10 different things that are far more important to attract/bed women than this.

[fiasco360]

I don't know why people are disagreeing. All things being equal it definitely doesn't hurt to be above average in this department.

[mikado]

I got my (almost) 8 inches (starting from 3 inches when I was 15) by jelqing, I would do stuff like jerk off to porn, then stop on the verge of cuming, rinse and repeat.

Or wrap tightly a towel (soaked in hot water) on my dick.

I even freaked out one time big, and asked for tips (heh) to my mom, because between the time i went to bed, and the moment I woke up, my girth had increased a lot (coupled with a more flask penis).

However I was 15-17 in that time window. It pretty much stopped working when I hit 17, and I have not really cared since then, because I still have to get special extra large condoms (time for some humblebrag).

The website at the time that I used was "ultrapasswords.com", though I think it has closed nowadays.

My point is that jelqing works, no doubt about it (I hit puberty at 16, has had since today testosterone issues -adressed in previous posts here about my lack of beard- and did not have sex until 19, so having sex did not play a part). However I doubt that you can use it to gain even 1 inch WAY AFTER you hit puberty.

Until today I have still not found the most efficient way to maximize (pardon the pun) the ROI on my dick, given that my game still sucks. Can't even do porn, since I don't know the right connections in the industry, and my engineering degree and religion kinda make me not penetrate into that world (bad puns everywhere). Except if I had the chance to shoot with Trinity Post, maybe.

That was my 2c.

[Heart Break Kid]

(12-19-2017 12:25 PM)mikado Wrote:  

I got my (almost) 8 inches (starting from 3 inches when I was 15) by jelqing, I would do stuff like jerk off to porn, then stop on the verge of cuming, rinse and repeat.

Or wrap tightly a towel (soaked in hot water) on my dick.

I even freaked out one time big, and asked for tips (heh) to my mom, because between the time i went to bed, and the moment I woke up, my girth had increased a lot (coupled with a more flask penis).

However I was 15-17 in that time window. It pretty much stopped working when I hit 17, and I have not really cared since then, because I still have to get special extra large condoms (time for some humblebrag).

The website at the time that I used was "ultrapasswords.com", though I think it has closed nowadays.

My point is that jelqing works, no doubt about it (I hit puberty at 16, has had since today testosterone issues -adressed in previous posts here about my lack of beard- and did not have sex until 19, so having sex did not play a part). However I doubt that you can use it to gain even 1 inch WAY AFTER you hit puberty.

Until today I have still not found the most efficient way to maximize (pardon the pun) the ROI on my dick, given that my game still sucks. Can't even do porn, since I don't know the right connections in the industry, and my engineering degree and religion kinda make me not penetrate into that world (bad puns everywhere). Except if I had the chance to shoot with Trinity Post, maybe.

That was my 2c.

That sounds very bro scienceish to me.

If your penis grew during stages of puberty, and stopped growing when you were only 17 then how do you know your exercise actually did anything? Where is the control?

If I had to guess most peoples penis stops growing when they are around 17.

[mikado]

(12-19-2017 02:59 PM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 12:25 PM)mikado Wrote:  

I got my (almost) 8 inches (starting from 3 inches when I was 15) by jelqing, I would do stuff like jerk off to porn, then stop on the verge of cuming, rinse and repeat.

Or wrap tightly a towel (soaked in hot water) on my dick.

I even freaked out one time big, and asked for tips (heh) to my mom, because between the time i went to bed, and the moment I woke up, my girth had increased a lot (coupled with a more flask penis).

However I was 15-17 in that time window. It pretty much stopped working when I hit 17, and I have not really cared since then, because I still have to get special extra large condoms (time for some humblebrag).

The website at the time that I used was "ultrapasswords.com", though I think it has closed nowadays.

My point is that jelqing works, no doubt about it (I hit puberty at 16, has had since today testosterone issues -adressed in previous posts here about my lack of beard- and did not have sex until 19, so having sex did not play a part). However I doubt that you can use it to gain even 1 inch WAY AFTER you hit puberty.

Until today I have still not found the most efficient way to maximize (pardon the pun) the ROI on my dick, given that my game still sucks. Can't even do porn, since I don't know the right connections in the industry, and my engineering degree and religion kinda make me not penetrate into that world (bad puns everywhere). Except if I had the chance to shoot with Trinity Post, maybe.

That was my 2c.

That sounds very bro scienceish to me.

If your penis grew during stages of puberty, and stopped growing when you were only 17 then how do you know your exercise actually did anything? Where is the control?

If I had to guess most peoples penis stops growing when they are around 17.

Well it is not totally scientific, indeed, but I know it worked because when I was 15 and 9 months old, it was litterally 9 cm (no puberty at that time, and no masturbation). Roughly 3.6 inches, I think. It increased consistently while I was doing these exercices, because I would measure it every single time with a ruler (and believe me I would look hard for that extra cm), and I would notice increases weeks after week. Now clearly, puberty might have played a role in this.

Anyway I am not exactly on the norm, since I hit puberty at 16, and some features of mine did not develop that much (actually, outside of my dick, and my height -180 cm- most of the common markers for men, such as beard, voice, hair, muscular mass, etc, are still those of a very young teenager for me).

All in all I guess I am too much of an outlier.

[Kona]

It's been almost three weeks since anyone touched this thread. Your dicks mist be getting bigger. Let's hear some stats.

Aloha!

[Suits]

(01-04-2018 02:52 AM)Kona Wrote:  

It's been almost three weeks since anyone touched this thread. Your dicks mist be getting bigger. Let's hear some stats.

I'm also looking forward to getting an update on how big your cocks are now. Please be sure to use the forum standard for measuring your progress, the Big Gulp Metric System.

I expect to hear plenty of stories about the line of women out some of your doors each and every night.

[Kieran]

Update, I didn't bother trying any specific thickness exercises, but realised after doing a little research that I was jelqing at too low of an erection level for thickness gains (which would explain why I've had considerable length gains from just ten mins jelqing per day, six days per week, in only 9 months - almost one inch now). Still jelqing 10 mins per day but trying to keep erection level a lot higher for most of the time. I'm going to monitor progress over the next couple of months, and maybe increase to 15 mins if it slows down.

[cascadecombo]

(01-04-2018 05:21 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 02:52 AM)Kona Wrote:  

It's been almost three weeks since anyone touched this thread. Your dicks mist be getting bigger. Let's hear some stats.

I'm also looking forward to getting an update on how big your cocks are now. Please be sure to use the forum standard for measuring your progress, the Big Gulp Metric System.

I expect to hear plenty of stories about the line of women out some of your doors each and every night.

Is boruka king going to come back and show his progress?

[StackGsMan]

I have done measurements and taken pictures for December 16, January 2, and on February 1 I plan to do the same. I didn't check this thread because I didn't really intend to post anything until maybe 6 months to a year.

I'll post the results of my measurements after I take them in a few days. Keep in mind this is a gradual process, but so far I'm satisfied with the way things are going.

The only thing that I'm mad about in terms of my pics and measurements is that I didn't take two sets of measurements on December 16 like I do now. I started doing a bit of girth work for about two days and on December 16 itself I did about 15 minutes straight of clamping right before the measurement. This always makes even my length slightly longer.

As of the January pictures I took one set of measurements before I do any girth work and one immediately after. There is always a difference in both length and girth between the two sets of measurements and if I remember correctly from my few months of PE in mid to late 2017 the amount of difference between pre and post girth work is always the same or similar over time.

I'll just post the results in a few days though.

[Kona]

(01-27-2018 03:48 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

I have done measurements and taken pictures for December 16, January 2, and on February 1 I plan to do the same. I didn't check this thread because I didn't really intend to post anything until maybe 6 months to a year.

I'll post the results of my measurements after I take them in a few days. Keep in mind this is a gradual process, but so far I'm satisfied with the way things are going.

The only thing that I'm mad about in terms of my pics and measurements is that I didn't take two sets of measurements on December 16 like I do now. I started doing a bit of girth work for about two days and on December 16 itself I did about 15 minutes straight of clamping right before the measurement. This always makes even my length slightly longer.

As of the January pictures I took one set of measurements before I do any girth work and one immediately after. There is always a difference in both length and girth between the two sets of measurements and if I remember correctly from my few months of PE in mid to late 2017 the amount of difference between pre and post girth work is always the same or similar over time.

I'll just post the results in a few days though.

I've been wondering about your penis, and it's length and width.

Keep up the good work.

Aloha!

[StackGsMan]

(01-27-2018 04:57 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 03:48 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

I have done measurements and taken pictures for December 16, January 2, and on February 1 I plan to do the same. I didn't check this thread because I didn't really intend to post anything until maybe 6 months to a year.

I'll post the results of my measurements after I take them in a few days. Keep in mind this is a gradual process, but so far I'm satisfied with the way things are going.

The only thing that I'm mad about in terms of my pics and measurements is that I didn't take two sets of measurements on December 16 like I do now. I started doing a bit of girth work for about two days and on December 16 itself I did about 15 minutes straight of clamping right before the measurement. This always makes even my length slightly longer.

As of the January pictures I took one set of measurements before I do any girth work and one immediately after. There is always a difference in both length and girth between the two sets of measurements and if I remember correctly from my few months of PE in mid to late 2017 the amount of difference between pre and post girth work is always the same or similar over time.

I'll just post the results in a few days though.

I've been wondering about your penis, and it's length and width.

Keep up the good work.

Aloha!

Bro, I thought we discussed this by PM last week when I told you the current length and width and you yelped ALOHA!

My penis is fine. I was recommending you enhance your own penis, not mine...


In all seriousness I am not going to post my results for any personal reasons, just as the guy who started the thread and recommended if guys are interested to try it giving feedback on what has actually happened.

I've said this is a low ROI "hobby" in the grand scheme of game, but I think it has value at least for some. If someone reads the thread, or happens upon any of the actual penis enlargement forums, and is actually interested in doing this then great for them. A couple of members by PM and in this thread reached out about their plan to begin or their current progress.

It is just nice to see feedback, whether true or not, from other guys outside of a penis enlargement forum just like if you have reason to believe a guy has great game and can teach you something and wants nothing in return. That is a different scenario at least for some than the PUA asking for 2k for a weekend of telling you go talk to that girl and try these routines out. Doesn't mean the PUA is a sham, just that he has a vested interest in both getting your money and proving he knows what he is doing.


Honestly I'd prefer it if every dude on the planet stopped working out, stop cleaning their bodies, got totally out of shape, and became homeless if I could continue to move forward regardless of them. In that case, if life is a zero sum game, I get better just because others get worse without any effort on my part necessarily.


This is just a forum, where men are trying to advance their lives in different (or potentially every) ways. Every dude thinks about his dick, big or small or in between. There just isn't any solid proof that one can really do much to change his penis other than maybe getting harder erections. I don't claim to have proof, and that is the whole point of me starting this thread to see if other guys want to try it out and report back on their results even though they have no monetary benefit from convincing other members.


I mean I know guys have been lifting stones and what not for millennia to build their body or get stronger, but lifting weights in a body building sense for the past 3-4 decades specifically has changed the lives of a lot of guys. I myself started lifting seriously (previously had done it for high school sports reasons) around the time that I started pushing through my social anxiety and talking to girls. I'm not saying that caused me to have very little approach anxiety and relatively lots of experience with women today, but if nothing else it was a small boost that made it easier to get over blowouts because of the great responses I'd get from most because of my body at that time even before I opened my mouth.


I know you were joking, but honestly if it were me that read this thread, had I no idea of the concept of penis enlargement, I'd give 15 minutes a day of jelqing a try. But that would be me, the guy who hit the gym hard to get in great shape (got really fat later and lost much of it again and still working down), talked to so many girls that he was no longer going to pass out trying to say hi, looked on an academic forum and found a way to self study for a standardized test and was able to get into an ivy league grad school, and even finally got down with cyrpto on this of all forums.

None of that is overly impressive even compared to many guys on this forum, let alone to the greater guys crushing it in life world, but it all started with an ok let me try this out and give it my all and see what happens.


But please, if penis enlargement does in fact work, please please please do not increase the size of your penis. It is absolutely the worst thing you can do to your body and to yourself. Having a big or huge dick, or even increasing its size an inch or so, is absolutely a horrible thing.

No woman would ever want a large penis anywhere near her, and the ancient priapus figurines of ancient Greece are actually ploys by the Jewish liberal elite of the porn industry to legitimize cuckolding.

Yeah sure getting cucked isn't purely a bigger penis issue (please just leave race out of the penis enlargement talk and especially cuckolding, it occurs by and to all races), but I'm pretty sure if a woman is going to cheat on a husband that has a 6 inch dick that she is going to run out of the bedroom in disgust if the guy she is cheating with is 9 inches.

I agree a big dick isn't every woman's thing, but just like being tall, it is certainly a factor amongst most women. Some women don't like tall guys at all and not every woman wants to date a 7 footer, but I'm pretty sure I've never gotten broken up with because I'm two inches over 6 feet. I think I'd more likely get broken up with for being two inches under 6'4'' (or obviously any of the other much more important factors on why guys get cheated on or left hanging).

Aloha!

[TigOlBitties]

Something else that might help is cutting back on alcohol, or even avoiding it altogether. I haven't had a drink since September 16 and my boners are not only longer, but much harder. I thought my dick had shrunk or something, and I think abusing alcohol had a lot to do with it. It feels like I'm 18 again.

[StackGsMan]

(01-27-2018 06:29 PM)TigOlBitties Wrote:  

Something else that might help is cutting back on alcohol, or even avoiding it altogether. I haven't had a drink since September 16 and my boners are not only longer, but much harder. I thought my dick had shrunk or something, and I think abusing alcohol had a lot to do with it. It feels like I'm 18 again.

Lifestyle choices like that are very relevant to erection quality and like you said (to an extent) penis size. Quitting smoking, drinking, shedding excess body fat, and exercise can all have a tangible effect. Hell, I've heard all over, and have seen for short periods of time myself, that not ejaculating and/or using your hard dick (whether by hand or sexually) can also slightly reduce size.

All of that is important, but active penis enlargement is a different issue.

Kegels, which can be done to the extent that is necessary within 10 minutes in the car on the way to work, will definitely help strengthen erection quality. A hard dick will always be bigger than the same dick that isn't 100% erect.


As far as active penis enlargement goes and erection quality the one exercise that I've found, although I have never done it for more than three months at a time, that greatly boosts erection quality are high erection level jelqs.

I had pretty severe erectile dysfunction for many years. For two years (currently 29 years old) I even gave up on trying to have sex. Like I tried with maybe 4-5 different girls and I couldn't get it up hard enough or long enough to even get it in the poosy. Tried viagra and that was barely enough to just get it in but not even hard enough to pound away. Forget trying to get my dick in a girls ass (never been able to do it with the three girls I've tried it on even when hard enough for several reasons).


I lost about 70 pounds in about 9 months through lifting and dieting (no cardio except walking on a treadmill for an hour early on). I also started jelqing a couple of times.


My erection quality is far from perfect now but I can actually have sex again.


Psychological state is also important, but I think the physical side of things is much bigger for me.

I plan to lose around another 50 lbs (currently 255ish at 6'2'', but a good amount of muscle). I also smoke like a chimney (only tobacco). On top of that soon enough I will get back into cardio.


I don't doubt these things will greatly boost my erection quality.



One important thing though about erection quality specifically with regards to penis enlargement. It is EXTREMELY important, especially with regard to girth. The harder and more engorged your penis gets the more you can temporarily expand it, which is the premise of girth work to begin with. So for anyone serious about penis enlargement, and specifically girth, investing effort into kegels and all of the above measures to boost erection quality will pay dividends.

[StackGsMan]

Oh and not only does losing weight, specifically fat, play a huge role in erection quality, it is insanely important in a woman's perception of your size.

I know that sounds obvious, but as dumb as women can be about many things, I believe they are especially dumb about how being fat effects the perceived size of a penis.

They say, and since I had not measured as regularly in the past in such a way as to track this so I cannot confirm, every ten pounds a guy loses reveals about .1-.15 extra inches of his penis from his fat pad. Fat pad is basically the fat around the extreme base of your dick. They say the average guy has around a half inch of fat pad covering his dick, and the lowest I've heard of is slightly below a quarter inch.

At my fattest, above 315ish, over 2 inches of my dick was covered by fat pad. Now it is about an inch. That doesn't correspond to the numbers I said about ten pounds is .1 inches or so revealed, but I don't think they were talking about very obese people that have disproportionate fat. I think that .1-.15 inches thing is mainly about guys that are only 10-15 pounds overweight.


So when I was around my heaviest and had a girl naked and asking me to take her virginity I couldn't even get it up (a part of my two year or so sexless streak described above because of erectile dysfunction). She legitimately thought my dick was 5 inches because of the fat and inability to get hard. I didn't argue with her and say I am definitely over the 7 inch mark even on a really bad day. I just pushed my fat pad in and revealed extra dick, but she still wasn't buying it (maybe because she was also a virgin).


So if we are going to get into making a penis larger through erection quality or other means aside from active penis enlargement, we should also take into account perception. Even if we ignore all the much more important reasons to get in as great shape as possible, simply losing weight for the purpose of revealing hidden dick is an added benefit (I know it is not a very important reason to lift weights or exercise or keep a good diet and that most guys are not walking around obese and if they are they have much bigger issues to deal with).


It's like Fat Joe said, since I lost the weight she says I got a big ego!

[Hannibal]

To all those saying PE is a waste of time.

I started out many years ago at 5.5 inches in length. A bunch of anonymous internet posters would assure you, much like today, "oh it's average, don't worry about it" or "dick size doesn't matter".

I spent total, maybe 150 hours jelqing in the last eight years with an extremely on-off routine, sometimes going years at a time without going back to it. A routine would take me 5-10 minutes, 4 times a week. Reading the forum for 15 minutes every morning is over 90 hours a year for those of you counting.

I have since moved on to devices and routines that allow me to continue PE while using basically no time at all, as I do it in the shower. I do 100 jelqs every morning while my hair rinses and then I use the bathmate afterwards - a hands free device. As a sidenote, I recommend "dry jelqs" as the regular kind have you glop up your hands with fucking Vaseline. If you're circumcised, dry jelqs will probably not work.

This routine hasn't changed much in the last eight months. Since that one dick size thread I have added half an inch with this routine alone (I'd say about eight months but I'd have to check). That thread actually got me back into PE, haha.

You might think it's a waste of time, but you're going to spend that time anyways. I've added 2 inches to my dick since I started (currently 7.5 inches) and no amount of "dick size doesn't matter" or "it's a waste of time" would stop me from doing it again, given the chance. Much like weightlifting, your beginner gains are going to be the most noticeable and getting your first extra inch is doable in three to six months.

I never did PE for the women. I did it because a bigger dick makes every pussy tighter.

@StacksGman
@Kieran

Erection level jelqs might work for you - for now - but you are flying way too fucking close to the sun, my friend. Those exercises are dangerous, I don't ever do jelqs above semi-hard, frankly. They're not as effective but they're a lot safer ie you can do them forever with no ill effects.

There's a nerve cluster right at the glans that could pop if you jelq it while too hard and once that's gone, your dick will basically never work again.

[StackGsMan]

@Hannibal

How much would you say the bathmate helps move things along? I'd like to hear your opinion specifically for the reasons I said above, which are that guys not associated with penis enlargement forums might be more truthful, and you've also given me great advice in the past.


Do you think it is worth it for me to get now, early on? Are there any major side effects that you can tell? I was eventually going to buy the bathmate if for no other reason than to see if it does work and try it out, but it will be an inconvenience to have to take it places with me.

My main concern with it, however, is I've heard it makes your penis not as hard as prior to its use. I don't know if that means it just hurts erection quality or if they mean it actually makes it softer feeling. I've heard both versions.


Can you confirm if that or any other side effects are true and how helpful you actually find it? I honestly may order it ASAP based on your response if I can have it expedited to me and take it abroad with me. It sounds like a very enjoyable way to do girth, as in it supposedly feels good too.


Also one thing I forgot to ask, how well do you think it contributes to both length and girth? I know it is mainly supposed to be for girth, but many also claim some length advantages.

[Hannibal]

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How much would you say the bathmate helps move things along? I'd like to hear your opinion specifically for the reasons I said above, which are that guys not associated with penis enlargement forums might be more truthful, and you've also given me great advice in the past.

I'm a very patient man when it comes to PE, which is probably why I've made gains with such a minimalistic routine. I find that consistency trumps volume and is generally a safer bet.

I checked my log and it looks like I bought the bathmate hydromax x30 in late October. In that time, I've used it on average 5 times a week for about 5 minutes each session. I use it after jelqing and I use it while flaccid. After using it, I did not notice much of a difference in erection quality. You do get a pump from it that lasts a couple hours.

Good Looking Loser recommends using it for 15 minute sessions while fully erect. I don't have time for that shit.

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Do you think it is worth it for me to get now, early on? Are there any major side effects that you can tell? I was eventually going to buy the bathmate if for no other reason than to see if it does work and try it out, but it will be an inconvenience to have to take it places with me.

My main concern with it, however, is I've heard it makes your penis not as hard as prior to its use. I don't know if that means it just hurts erection quality or if they mean it actually makes it softer feeling. I've heard both versions.

Can you confirm if that or any other side effects are true and how helpful you actually find it? I honestly may order it ASAP based on your response if I can have it expedited to me and take it abroad with me. It sounds like a very enjoyable way to do girth, as in it supposedly feels good too.

As far as side effects are concerned, I've noticed that it increases flaccid size, increases erection quality slightly, and right after using it you might be a bit softer than normal. In the handful of times that I used it while hard, it's almost painful to use so I didn't bother.

In the last 12 weeks that I've used it, I've gained a quarter inch in length and a quarter inch in girth. I don't think it contributed much to length (it's possible that it does), but it definitely did girth in a noticeable way. I am also not using it as much as some folks recommend. More time might be better.

I'd say it's worth it, but I'm not traveling at the moment. The hydromax is not a small piece of equipment. It's as big as a medium sized thermos. Yeah it also feels good to use but I wouldn't justify $150 on that alone. I don't know what your traveling situation looks like.

My PE career is literally just jelqs and the VLC tugger (a lightweight device that acts as a hanger, but uses an elastic cord instead of a weight). I never bothered with JP's 90 day beginner routine or warming up with a rice sock for 20 minutes or any of that other shit.

Honestly I would wait until you're done traveling. At which point, you can buy the bathmate. They have a full refund return policy if you think it doesn't work. Your routine looks comprehensive and a bathmate might not add a whole hell of a lot to it, but it's not going to kill your gains if you wait for a more convenient time to get one.

[Savemham Lincoln]

Making jokes on this thread is no different to how blue pill people will shun you for even daring to read a book on game. If it ain't your cup of tea that's fine but let the people who are interested in it do them and keeping it moving.

Two ED fails led me straight to NoFap and after I am done with that PE is next on my itinerary. I read on pegym about men in their 50s and 60s saying they had regained virility akin to when they were in their 20s.

My greatest concern, however, is the increased frequency of condoms breaking with a larger member. I don't want to deal with the hassle and cost of having to order special sized domes. Can any of you fellas chime in on this problem?

[Cr33pin]

[StackGsMan]

(01-30-2018 01:26 PM)Savemham Lincoln Wrote:  

Making jokes on this thread is no different to how blue pill people will shun you for even daring to read a book on game. If it ain't your cup of tea that's fine but let the people who are interested in it do them and keeping it moving.

Two ED fails led me straight to NoFap and after I am done with that PE is next on my itinerary. I read on pegym about men in their 50s and 60s saying they had regained virility akin to when they were in their 20s.

My greatest concern, however, is the increased frequency of condoms breaking with a larger member. I don't want to deal with the hassle and cost of having to order special sized domes. Can any of you fellas chime in on this problem?

@Hannibal, will post my response to the Bathmate post you wrote earlier after I use the one I bought earlier today at a store. I have a few things to say so I will wait until I actually use the device as well before commenting. As always though, truly appreciate your advice.


Will also post my measurements probably tomorrow. I took all of the measurements that I needed except BPFSL (Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretch Length). The thing is, as I am sure anyone reading will see once I post the results, after girth work (which takes me 45-60 minutes) just about every single measurement increases. As of writing this I just did girth about an hour ago so I want to wait until tomorrow to take that BPFSL measurement and then I will post. BPFSL is one of the measurements that I only do before girth, so in the morning I will measure it.


@Savemham

Those first two sentences you wrote are basically what I was trying to get at, with a bunch of other reasons and really bad examples. I think the bodybuilding example is fitting though. Prior to the 1970's bodybuilding as we know it today was mainly considered to be something that freaks do. Now not only are professional bodybuilders able to make millions from it (even though I think they look grotesque despite my immense respect for them), but basically everyone you see in these gyms around the country are bodybuilding in one sense or the other if they are lifting weights. I'm not saying power and olympic lifters, or those actually doing it for athletic purposes, but most everyone you see in the gym lifting is bodybuilding in a sense that they want to alter and make their shape look better with weights.

Of all things, it is now becoming almost freakish to not hit the gym at least a few times a week. It is not even like a great job sort of scenario, it is almost becoming a mandatory for any guy that wants to get ahead with women. Keyword almost, and I'm mainly talking about guys who are "blue pill" aside from building their bodies or trying to make money or what not.


Penis enlargement is something I doubt will ever take great hold on men around the world unless something fundamentally changes about the way we live in a 1984 or Brave New World sense. As I have probably said many times, just about any guy out there will benefit from a better looking body in terms of game. How many put in the work to get that body? Relatively few.


Not trying to convince anyone to do this, and like I said, I am now thinking I hope fewer and fewer guys even consider this a possibility so there is less competition. Again though, this forum is designed in many ways to help men advance themselves, and I just wanted to suggest a low return on investment (although I disagree personally with the ROI comment) way to potentially add to your life.




Savemham, I'll address your two more important comments now though and try to do so briefly. More important in the sense that you are saying things relevant to yourself aside from telling nay sayers to back off.


If you are going to be doing girth work, which I think is generally the most fun part of penis enlargement if we maybe exclude jelqs (not a fan), I do not think you can do nofap. One of the major reasons I dropped nofap many times is because around every time I started PE (which I think this is the 5th time) I also started nofap. With PE in general and particularly girth you will be handling your dick a lot, and depending on what you do specifically many things will have a similar feeling to edging or masturbation.

The reason I always seem to begin nofap around these times is because, aside from all of the great reasons in the other thread which made me want to do nofap before I even saw this forum, generally the harder your penis gets the more you will be able to expand it through girth. Obviously there is a limit, and you don't want to hurt yourself anyway, but if you get a major boner and keep doing girth you will get much more expansion. It is kind of like when guys do low erection jelqing and see that they barely get any girth but often decent length. Girth requires the strongest erection possible without hurting yourself.


The issue with PE and nofap is that once you do these girth exercises and your penis is already extra sensitive from days or weeks or more of not jerking off (particularly if you aren't cumming from sex regularly otherwise), you will often find you will accidentally orgasm part way through your girth or have to stop entirely, both of which will kill that session. If you do anything like clamped edging, for instance, which is where you put on a cable clamp tightly and basically masturbate for a given time, the point is to get yourself to near the point of orgasm and stop over and over again. In fact that build up to near orgasm is one of the cornerstones of that type of girth, which is one of the fundamentals of girth unless you are only using devices.


So basically I don't think nofap is compatible with PE (meaning girth PE) unless I didn't get the memo on why my dick is super sensitive within 2 or 3 days of not fapping.


Finally the condom thing. I'll post my results tomorrow but basically my starting size before PE, or every time I quit PE and it shrinks back to normal (if I haven't explained that already and what I have read is the issue and anyone wants to know ask), is about 7.25-7.5 inches in length and 5.5ish in girth. I can't give very precise measurements because both my girth and length have gone both up and down both before and after starting and stopping PE. This is directly due to my previous (and still partially ongoing) Erectile Dysfunction.


At that size, I have broken condoms several times. The second time I had sex in my life in high school (17), my girlfriend at the time suggested I pick out my own condom. She had more sexual experience than me and based on her smile, which I may have been misreading, it seemed like she wanted to see what I'd do. I picked some regular thick as hell spermicide condom that I had no idea would be fucking useless and small as shit. The second time we had sex I had forgot to buy condoms so she gave me one from her sister's boyfriend, which was I believe a regular Trojan ultra thin. I put it on and started to have sex and it felt great especially compared to that first time, until I orgasmed (which I don't always or even mostly do) and pulled my dick out. I saw the condom had split open and it was just a small ring around the bottom of my dick.


First major pregnancy scare of my life and first time I learned what Plan B actually was. For a long time as I got older and more suspicious of women I suspected maybe she poked a whole in it that split open or something else happened. I also stopped using condoms for a long time, so my frame of reference wasn't great about condoms for a while. For the longest time I thought magnums were for pornstars (hung ones at that, meaning the huge guys). I really thought a magnum would come off my dick during sex if it even managed to stay on my dick to begin with since I had never even tried buying one and putting it on.


Fast forward to now where I have more experience. Last year I was dating a Ukrainian girl around the same time when I basically ran to an STI clinic several times and also picked up bags and bags of free condoms. I threw out all the other ones and kept the Lifestyle Kyng because those were the largest they provided (slightly less girth than Trojan Magnum but about the same length).


When I had sex with that Ukrainian girl she had bought KY lube ahead of the first time and I brought the Kyngs. I swear in the two hours 3 or 4 of those things broke. I was pounding her really hard (like I often go rough with a lot of girls, but this was probably the roughest sex I've ever had) and I guess she kept getting dry because I had to relube her like 5+ times. I also broke another one of those Kyngs with another girl.


I have never broken a Trojan Magnum, but it is getting kind of tight now with where I am at with PE and I also haven't pounded away too hard on any girl recently mainly because my ED has kicked in several times and I haven't had the erection quality to go too hard without bending my dick.


My dick isn't big by my own estimation, even now after beginning PE again. But at 7.25-7.5 with about 5.5 girth those have been my issues.


Bottom line though, IMHO, if you get THAT damn big just order up some Durex and find some size queen to pay your condom bill