[bucky]

(12-07-2017 08:29 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Just because Christians did serve doesn't mean they were allowed to by the church. Again you ignore what the source says. They could not be actual Christians as soldiers, they would be penitents and catechumens, forced to do various penances such as lie face down weeping while listening to a sermon, could not partake in communion, etc. Their souls were still damned according to Christian doctrine until the bishops saw true repentance.

You'd be more convincing if you actually looked at the same sources. But a cursory glance and then spending hours coming up with just the right retort seems to be your forte. Shame it's useless.

Forgive my delay in responding. I'm employed and try to sleep at least seven hours a night.

Again, there's nothing forbidding military service in the Bible. Bible > Tertullian. The Bible clearly shows widespread apostasy long before the sources you're citing, proving that they entirely questionable as sources for Christian doctrine. Even with the sources you're citing, the main objection seems to be the inherent idolatry involved in serving in the Roman military (sacrifices to pagan Gods, eating sacrificed meat, etc.) not to military service per se. I've repeated these things many, many times but it never seems to sink in with you. I don't understand why this is so hard, or why you're so obsessed with proving that Christians must be pacifists. It's an interesting theory but highly unlikely to bring down Christianity anytime soon.

[YoungBlade]

Nothing I say could bring down christianity harder than your insistence on sola scriptura.

[bucky]

(12-07-2017 08:18 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Nothing I say could bring down christianity harder than your insistence on sola scriptura.

"Sola scriptura"? What's that, and what is this strange moonman language you're using? Heh.

Sorry. Seriously though, Christianity is doing fine. Fairly well here in Latin America at least. It's provided me with a traditional wife who was a virgin when I met her and doesn't mind changing all the poopy diapers. I understand that you used to be able to find women like that in the US, before we abandoned Christianity in favor of feminism. Ye shall know them by their fruits, as Jesus put it. Why get bogged down with a pet obsession and miss the forest for the trees?

[Kurgan]

I'm glad to see my original post is going strong in this forum. There is something I thought about just recently.

I grew up too fast after my dad died at 17 and have lived around my mom and sister most of my life. My brother was in the military so I didn't have much of a masculine influence. It's starting to grow more thanks to this forum and the posters here.

[YoungBlade]

(12-07-2017 09:45 PM)bucky Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:18 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Nothing I say could bring down christianity harder than your insistence on sola scriptura.

"Sola scriptura"? What's that, and what is this strange moonman language you're using? Heh.

Sorry. Seriously though, Christianity is doing fine. Fairly well here in Latin America at least. It's provided me with a traditional wife who was a virgin when I met her and doesn't mind changing all the poopy diapers. I understand that you used to be able to find women like that in the US, before we abandoned Christianity in favor of feminism. Ye shall know them by their fruits, as Jesus put it. Why get bogged down with a pet obsession and miss the forest for the trees?

So not only do you not grasp the concept of the three tenants of Christianity, you seem to be unable to distinguish amongst the various factions. One thing's for sure, you have the Christian idea of Jesus magically fixing any and all societal ills. As though a Mexican stepping on American soil makes him American, so a ho becomes a housewife if she just believes in Jesus.

It's clear you need this forum more than most. May I suggest starting here.

[bucky]

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a ho becomes a housewife if she just believes in Jesus.

It's clear you need this forum more than most. May I suggest starting here.
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I assume you're being disingenuous, but if your reading comprehension is really so poor in English that you think that's what I'm saying it's pretty difficult to believe that you've somehow managed to discover the esoteric nature of the true Christianity through your studies in Latin and Greek. That said if it's comforting to imagine yourself intellectually superior to all the Christians dummies you might as well. We all need something to get us through the night, after all. I prefer to think of my attempts to understand the Divine as the intellectual equivalent of an ant trying to comprehend advanced philosophy. That said I understand how Christian faith such as I can muster has blessed my life and hope to understand more some day, somehow. Or as Paul put it, we see through a glass darkly in this life, but in the next all things will be revealed.

It's too bad you're so bitter towards Christianity. There's a lot of good stuff in the Bible that even a non-believer could appreciate (Ecclesiastes, the parable of the talents, Paul's stuff about women and their role in the church, etc.). You should consider reading it some day.

[YoungBlade]

You, who's never read the bible, or any theologians, or church history, lecturing someone who has spent decades studying it. Hilarious.

Again, check the newbie forum. It'll do you some good.

[bucky]

(12-08-2017 08:21 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

You, who's never read the bible, or any theologians, or church history, lecturing someone who has spent decades studying it. Hilarious.

Again, check the newbie forum. It'll do you some good.

Get help.

[SlickyBoy]

Back to the original subject - what epiphanies have you had since taking the red pill:

Spiritualism (often manifesting itself as paganism) is chick crack.

Quote:

...For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you’ve got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, ‘gifts of prophecy’, really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you’ll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.

Though I disagree somewhat with his last sentence - at least as many men as women (if not more) are into Islam as are the women - it's a prescient observation. Every self-described "spiritual" person I've ever met is a woman, to include nearly every pagan, Wiccan wannabe, etc.

Rollo's perspective of religion is no doubt derived from his growing up in post-feminist western civilization, which as discussed ad nauseam is seriously adrift from what it was even four or five decades ago. Nevertheless he's spot on. Only a woman would pass off an insipid uttering like "I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" as if that means anything other than "I'm special and mysterious!"

(...cue a rehash of Asperger-induced chip-on-shoulder responses about religious history....)

[Gambler]

(11-29-2017 10:10 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

1. Consumerism is a tool by which the elites control everyone. You don't need a new car, more things for your house, etc.

2. Sportsball serves no purpose, it's a tool to distract people. Fraternity/group bonding can be found in military, mens group, church, etc.

3. University education does nothing for you and tremendously over-valued. Everyone has a university degree these days and lots of debt. Better to learn computer programming or get a STEM degree.

4. Media bias is real, and media often creates their own narratives- Perfect example is the whole RV meetup controversy a few years ago. I can't remember now, but i'm pretty sure that's what piqued my interest in ROK-- the media's hysteria made me think something in their narrative didn't add up.

5. Deep State. Started with Snowden, and became more and more aware. Esp. with Trump now, it's clear they're throwing up obstacles to keep the status quo.

Amazing post I agree 100%

[Mercenary]

(12-11-2017 11:40 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

Back to the original subject - what epiphanies have you had since taking the red pill:

Spiritualism (often manifesting itself as paganism) is chick crack.

Quote:

...For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you’ve got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, ‘gifts of prophecy’, really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you’ll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.

Though I disagree somewhat with his last sentence - at least as many men as women (if not more) are into Islam as are the women - it's a prescient observation. Every self-described "spiritual" person I've ever met is a woman, to include nearly every pagan, Wiccan wannabe, etc.

Rollo's perspective of religion is no doubt derived from his growing up in post-feminist western civilization, which as discussed ad nauseam is seriously adrift from what it was even four or five decades ago. Nevertheless he's spot on. Only a woman would pass off an insipid uttering like "I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" as if that means anything other than "I'm special and mysterious!"

(...cue a rehash of Asperger-induced chip-on-shoulder responses about religious history....)

Girls who have aspergers usually are hardcore atheists with zero interest in anything non-scientific.


Additionally there are red pilled men who believe Pagan Gods & Goddesses who are not beta at all.
Not many, but they do exist.

[Kurgan]

(12-11-2017 07:34 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 11:40 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

Back to the original subject - what epiphanies have you had since taking the red pill:

Spiritualism (often manifesting itself as paganism) is chick crack.

Quote:

...For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you’ve got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, ‘gifts of prophecy’, really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you’ll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.

Though I disagree somewhat with his last sentence - at least as many men as women (if not more) are into Islam as are the women - it's a prescient observation. Every self-described "spiritual" person I've ever met is a woman, to include nearly every pagan, Wiccan wannabe, etc.

Rollo's perspective of religion is no doubt derived from his growing up in post-feminist western civilization, which as discussed ad nauseam is seriously adrift from what it was even four or five decades ago. Nevertheless he's spot on. Only a woman would pass off an insipid uttering like "I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" as if that means anything other than "I'm special and mysterious!"

(...cue a rehash of Asperger-induced chip-on-shoulder responses about religious history....)

Girls who have aspergers usually are hardcore atheists with zero interest in anything non-scientific.


Additionally there are red pilled men who believe Pagan Gods & Goddesses who are not beta at all.
Not many, but they do exist.

Could the same be said in regards to paganism that are men who are Spiritualists but not beta at the same time?

[PharaohRa]

Revelations after accepting the red pill

1) You either hunt or become the hunted
2) You ascend to be the alpha or accept being a slave
3) Money is important but too much money can make you paranoid
4) Women are never to be trusted but are meant to be property and to be used as your tools
5) Game is everything and encompasses all that is human culture
6) Civilization is precious and only men are fit to build and lead it
7) Children are assets and should be treated as such
8) God rewards the strong and successful
9) All that people read about Aliens, Freemasons, Illuminati, secret societies, etc. is nothing more than individuals/groups/races vying for power over one another
10) The common people always suffer when the powerful fight (When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers)
11) The universe is a weird place, but no matter how weird, certain constants apply
12) There are "rules" that are evident once you open your mind

[MaceTyrell]

I just gave a very red pill-esque explanation to s friend of mine tonight who didn’t get into two top grad programs.

She proceeded to start crying. Type of explanation that I gave to a guy, even if they did not like it, would not have blown up emotionally like that.

Men truly are different creatures than women.

[Architekt]

(12-13-2017 12:48 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

I just gave a very red pill-esque explanation to s friend of mine tonight who didn’t get into two top grad programs.

She proceeded to start crying. Type of explanation that I gave to a guy, even if they did not like it, would not have blown up emotionally like that.

Men truly are different creatures than women.

Women don't want solutions they want pity

They're simply victims

Strong, independent, empowered victims...