[Wander]

As Greek Kamaki used to say, every major piece of clothing should be minimum 100Euros, Jeans, Shirt, Shoes etc. The girls will study you from toe to head and do a quick calculation.I think Blazers only good for evening and night time, in Serbia it would be too hot to wear them most of the summer.Serbia women like Italian style more, so I would avoid American preppy clothing. I would not say you can buy any decent jeans from Zara, I would say Hugo Boss, Armani, Diesel. I'm not a fan of Hugo Boss trainers on the whole, they look ugly, although I like their shoes a lot

Also Turkish and Arab men have taken over the Hugo Boss brand in EE, especially Polo shirts, so you don't want to be lumped in with those guys

When I hear the term Euro Trash I think of the 90's UK TV show starring a pervy Frenchman, there's no way it would return these days, the feminazis wouldn't stand for it

[Tail Gunner]

(06-19-2018 05:41 AM)superschalk Wrote:  

It would make sense if Dragan could define the word Euro Trash. I only know that word for pop songs produced by some Scandinavian and German producers during the 90s. But what does it mean in terms of outfits? Is it something like Adidas pants combined with some running shoes and a hoddie?

I already raised this issue. See post number 325. "Euro Trash" is defined as well-dressed but gaudy, flamboyant, and decadent. The OP is misusing the term and dressing low-class (I assume, to fit in with his friends there, who cannot afford to enter higher-end clubs). I already advised him to invest in a wardrobe. One of the first steps of self-improvement is to know how to dress properly.

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[Dragan]

(06-19-2018 03:14 AM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I don't like the active wear Euro trash idea at all.

Heres why.

1) You should be selling lifestyle game. You are young, good passport, comparatively wealthy, can take her to see the world, own your own business. I think your results would go up big time. Take them on a couple dates and bang. You are right about the lifestyle stuff, it's congruent with my life story.

2) By dressing like someone with a lack of funds and I assume having Serbian wings that aren't part of the in clique (high end type guys) you are probably going to come a cross as a young foreign student with limited funds and possibilities. I'm sure they get laid of girls within their strata. It's a heck of a lot easier though to bang girls when you have higher social capital then them and they view you as being of a higher level than them.

Your wings should be selling the American Businessman who came to Serbia to do business and considering relocation here. I mean you've literally got the ultimate backstory and you don't even have to lie. That in and of itself is money.

Your business could be silly and as unsexy as it gets and totally lack any sort of success but girls certainly will love to tell their friends my boyfriend has a business.

If you can fund and sell lifestyle game you'll get way better chicks. I'm not sure what the income situation is but I'd assume in Serbia it can't cost very much to do this.

Woman in every culture are going to prefer a man that seems like hes going places. Sell them the dream. My guess is you've probably read a bunch of game books and way overanalyze stuff.

Perhaps other posters will know more about this than me. I'm by no means an expert in gaming. I've always just purely exploited lifestyle game to my benefit since I finished my studies.

That's my next goal, I no longer have approach anxiety, so it's time to get my nose to the grindstone and build social status here.

I dress pretty nicely, but a lot of times when I daygame, I dress really casually. Like shorts, polo, etc. That's what I mean by eurotrash.

(06-19-2018 04:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  

I know nothing about gaming in Eastern Europe, but here in Asia, I never go on a date or out to do some daygame dressed in anything less upscale than a blazer. It's not that local me or most expats are well dressed, but as a Westerner, I want to stand far above the crowd.

The girl I was out with last night (who dropped to her knees and sucked my dick as soon as she could tear my clothes off upon arriving at my apartment) had told me earlier in the evening, "I don't like to wear suits myself, but I like men in suits. He he."

Yes, I agree, although I think blazers are probably for nicer clubs, or nice nights out.

(06-19-2018 05:41 AM)superschalk Wrote:  

It would make sense if Dragan could define the word Euro Trash. I only know that word for pop songs produced by some Scandinavian and German producers during the 90s. But what does it mean in terms of outfits? Is it something like Adidas pants combined with some running shoes and a hoddie?

Balkan girls are materalistic and love brands. My results improved (in Ukraine but it will be similar in Serbia) when I upgraded my outfits. Just a few pointers which can help in my opinion.

- Girls in EE tend to checkout shoes first. So get a pair of higher end sneakers for about €200. Hugo Boss has a few good ones for example in that price range.
- Get a Ralph Lauren shirt. If shirts are too hot get a Ralp Lauren Polo Shirt. Girl know the brand logo and know its not cheap.
- Get some decent jeans, something from Zara will do easily. Otherwise if you want to spend some more go for Diesel or Pepe.
- Extra: Get a decent looking watch. Girls in general have not idea about prices and brands of watches but will notice good looking watches instantly. So as long as the watch looks not cheap you will be good.

So if you can invest about €500 in a decent outfit your chances for success will improve your chances.

I wear slacks a lot, dress shoes, burberry shoes, polos and button downs.

[dr.feelgood]

Dragan, really interesting datasheet. How many bangs up till now? I'm just a bit lazy to read 15 pages.

[Cation]

Dragan, is it possible yourself being American is your disadvantage? I met this Yank a few years ago in Belgrade. He was in the army. And he told me he doesn't like talking about his job in front of Serbian people, because the Yanks bombed Belgrade.

[Rangers1443]

Dragan, 2 of my colleagues that went in Belgrade for work (not obssesed with banging local sluts) in the amount of time of they stayed , which was more of less similar to your time, had banged like 4 serbian girls.

And they are not great in game but also not bad. (Plus that they were busy 5 days a week)

You should get laid by the end of the next moth at least.

[Irenicus]

Dragan, as a, so to speak native, I have a few points that you need to consider. Yes, some of them were mentioned before. I will be a little bit harsh, but know that I mean good to you.


First of all, drop down your ego (you, and most of the forum members know about what I am talking about). You didn't get all those neutrals for nothing brother. You are, currently, at the bottom of the barrel. You have no language ability. You have no connections in the middle and upper echelons of society as of yet (people on this topic were saying that you are dealing with unsavory people.) In short, you are no king of Belgrade. In truth, you are the Peasant of Belgrade.


I'll go one step further that the rest of the crew. I suggest (and I'm dead serious) that you pack your stuff, and go back to the West (can't remember from which country are you from). Once there, approach like a motherfucker, just like you do here (respect for that). You'll lose that damn V card much more easier over there, where girls are easier and where SNL is rather normal for an average (and below average) man. Here, where the girls aren't as easy, and where SNL is possible only for very high SMV men, you'll be having a very hard time. That's evident in your posts. Once you get much needed experience in the West, go back to Belgrade.


If you choose to stay (I am fine either way) then here are things you must pay attention to.


(1) Lift


Do you like big boobs and nicely shaped asses?I do. As well as 99,9% of the forum.

Do you like fucking obese girls, or skinny girls, who look like they just left Aushwitz? I don't. As well as 99,9% of the forum.


I guess you'll take option number one.



Now...let's turn the tables. What kind of men girls like?


Guys in great shape, which can pound her in all three holes for hours, without dying in the process?

Obese, skinny and skinnyfat guys, with disgusting bodies, and which will die of heart attack after two minutes of intense sex?


Option number one.


So...get your ass to the gym, pick a good program (Stronglifts and SS are good ones), get your diet in order (avoid Balkan food such as čevapi, burek, baklava etc.) and you'll see results in a year. They will give you a further boost to your confidence, and will give you an edge over the local competition. Gym culture is not big in the Balkans in general. If you have any questions about that subject, post in the appropriate subforum.


No excuses. Alongside approaching, that should be your part time job.



(2) Style (N.B - STYLE=/= FASHION)


Do you see your RVF avatar? Do you know how that style is called?


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Dizelaš (deezelash). It was popular shortly before and during the War. Nowadays, only the lowest of the low wear it. People with whom you should, for your own safety, stay away from. That style screams that you have no status, no (or very little money), and that you live with your extended family in some old and run down apartment, build during the Communist era, from the money taken from the other Yugoslav republics. In short, you aren't a catch. No girl wants to live that lifestyle.


Like Lavidaloca says, you should project an aura of a successful guy. From what I have seen, you have taken first steps - you wear some branded stuff. As much as I hate to write this - wearing branded stuff helps with girls. It shows that you have money, and can provide for her (and kids, if you choose to have them.)In EE, that's a normal behaviour - don't assume that every girl is a gold digger because of that.


And finally, there is no need to pay that much money for each piece of clothing.Keep in mind that I am one the biggest label whores you have seen. If you are smart, you can get very good stuff (both new and used) for a faction of that price. If you are interested in that department and have plenty of money, PM, I am in that field. And I know...several sources.



To conclude this lengthy post - as of now, you are the Peasant of Belgrade.

Once you bang a girl, then you will become Freeman of Belgrade.

Once you bang ten girls (without getting killed by someone), and pack some muscle, you'll be the Protector of Belgrade.

Once you bang twenty girls (without getting killed by someone), pack some more muscle and learn the basics of Serbian (which will help you with Croatian language, which is quite similar, but different still), you'll become the Knight of Belgrade.

Once you bang 50 girls (without getting killed by someone), pack even more muscle, master the language and build solid social circle with respectable locals, then you'll be known as Marshal of Belgrade.

Once you bang 500 girls (without getting killed by someone), pack more muscle than Hugh Jackman in Wolverine, become fluent in Serbian and build solid social circle with respectable locals, then Roosh and Soma (Tuthomosis will be busy) will come, in the middle of the night, on black horses and black plate mail, cast in the deepest parts of Hollywood. From what I have been told, they prefer white horses and bright armor, but manginas have ruined the white knight brand, so black will have to do. In any case, they will take you to Belgrade's central spot, and have you perform twelve tasks, of their own choosing. Once you complete each of them, then, and only then, you will be known as King of Belgrade, and will be allowed to use that title on your signature.


(And hopefully, you'll be able to defeat the king of Beijing after that, should you choose so.)



If you fail, you will be forced to spend the remaining days of your life in Toronto, gaming gender fluid people, without the possibility to leave. Horrible fate, isn't it?




Sretno...kralju beogradski.

[jcardial]

(06-20-2018 08:39 AM)Rangers1443 Wrote:  

Dragan, 2 of my colleagues that went in Belgrade for work (not obssesed with banging local sluts) in the amount of time of they stayed , which was more of less similar to your time, had banged like 4 serbian girls.

And they are not great in game but also not bad. (Plus that they were busy 5 days a week)

You should get laid by the end of the next moth at least.

This is fairly useless information without knowing the age and quality of the women they got relative to their own age and attractiveness. If you're a 7-8 range guy it takes very basic game to bang some washed up 30 year olds or some average to slightly above average younger girls.

That said, Dragan does claim he's not very discriminating. I suspect when you're basically making it your full time objective to bang and don't have much experience you probably telegraph the try hard and neediness. If you're busy with work and legit endeavors you won't be blowing up a girl's thirst radar as much.

[stefpdt]

Dragan at some point during your youth you had an animal instinct for having sex with hot girls. This is a biological instinct that all men have. I want you to try and remember what that instinct felt like, and learn how to tap into that feeling as an adult.

When I lost my virginity at 18 years old, I was so fucking horny, I ended up physically picking up some girl at a party, carrying her to the bedroom, and then caveman fucked the shit out of her.

She later became kinda obsessed with me because I gave her one of the most exciting experiences of her life. I fulfilled a fantasy for her.

(We had a good connection, and she was attracted to me before I fucked her.)

But it was that primal hunger for sex that ultimately helped me lose my virginity. I want you to focus on bringing out your primal, animalistic hunger for sex.

Here's a hypothetical scenario:

What if I told you that you HAD to lose your virginity within 30 days or less, or else someone would pay you a visit, and blast your kneecap with a shotgun?

If this were a realistic scenario, you would ultimately find a way to bang a chick, because your hunger for sex would outweigh everything else.

Get fucking hungry Dragan. You're a young guy entering the prime of your life as a man. Find a way to make it fucking happen.

Like the above poster said, start lifting. I also recommend taking zinc tablets every day. Most importantly, it's time to develop a hungry mindset for WINNING. You're going to be dead one day and you'll most likely be left with a black void of nothingness for millions of years. So you might as well live the best fucking life possible in the meantime. Be a goddamn champion for Christ's sake.

[Dragan]

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

Serbian customer service at its best.

[Going strong]

(06-20-2018 03:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

3 security guards and "Massive" police force?

Nola, what did you say to them on the phone?

[Rocha]

(06-20-2018 03:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

Serbian customer service at its best.

Then you guys told the cops to "go home"? or even better "Иди кући" ?

[sterling_archer]

(06-20-2018 05:15 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Then you guys told the cops to "go home"? or even better "Иди бре кући" ?

Corrected, one subtle but important difference.

[Vlado]

(06-20-2018 03:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

Serbian customer service at its best.

What do you mean by massive police force?

However this is your chance man, to feel angrier .

This is the chance for you to bang more serbian chicks.

Nola and the other guy have done so, the issue is, what are you going to do?

[Vlado]

(06-17-2018 06:50 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

...

Did SuperiorClimber bang that serbian chick he was gaming in that way?

If he did, maybe you should follow his method.

You should really do something, hit the gym, find higher status friends, use better your status as a foreigner, dress better etc.

By now you should have had an harem of chicks, and I am not even joking.

I was even surprised that you didnt even like Bulgaria.

[Dragan]

(06-21-2018 05:48 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 03:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

Serbian customer service at its best.

What do you mean by massive police force?

However this is your chance man, to feel angrier .

This is the chance for you to bang more serbian chicks.

Nola and the other guy have done so, the issue is, what are you going to do?

Like there were several officers, like 3 and they were gigantic.


Nola told me a few days ago that I needed to focus more on work, the gym, improving my life, no more need to worry about mass-approaching girls. Yesterday Stefpdt said the same thing. Others pilled in after that saying something to the same effect. So, credit where credit is due-- thank you to Nola and Stefpdt for the advise, it is very good advise. I will be following that advise to the T from now on, to make further progress on Project Belgrade.

[sterling_archer]

Now we are talking. Please keep us posted on the development.

[stefpdt]

It's a good idea to pace yourself with cold approaches, otherwise you risk burning yourself out.

There's nothing wrong with doing just 3+ cold approaches every day. That's sustainable. You can do that for the next 20+ years and not burn yourself out.

Most importantly, you can do 3+ cold approaches every day while also developing your business, health, body, and charisma.

If you haven't read it already, I highly recommend reading "The Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida. That book changed the course of my life.

In a nutshell, Deida makes the case that life is short, so you have to tackle multiple facets of life simultaneously. Which is essentially the situation that you're currently in. You're playing catch-up with life, so you should expect to work harder than most people.

[Dragan]

I agree Stefpdt.

[Cation]

(06-21-2018 05:54 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

You should really do something, hit the gym, find higher status friends, use better your status as a foreigner, dress better etc.

By now you should have had an harem of chicks, and I am not even joking.

I was even surprised that you didnt even like Bulgaria.

No one has a harem in Belgrade, what are you talking about?

More than several forum members have confirmed that Belgrade is tough, and you have the balls to speak about a harem.

[JohnKreese]

(06-20-2018 03:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Nola/ SuperiorClimber/ and I went to the shopping center to buy some formal wear, because we all dress well.

Anyway, we had an issue with a item. The dumb clerk rang up the wrong item.

We found this out later, after getting back to the house.

SuperiorClimber went back to the store. It was simple, needed a new item in the correct size because they messed up. The girl was unwilling to correct her mistake. Superior got Nola on the phone, Nola in heavily accented english started very calmly on speakerphone that they needed to fix the mistake. They weren't listening to reason, so Nola started screaming at them. This worked, I call this move "The Crazy Ivan". Got the owner of the establishment to talk to Superior, and get got a new item and something else. This was all good and well but at this point there were already 3 security guards standing next to him in the store. The girl that messed up took forever to package the items and the police arrived. Massive police. They start lecturing Superior in Serbian. The item gets packed, and Superior gets out, not before the owner says fuck the US.

Serbian customer service at its best.

I wrote this in the other discussion roughly three hours before wrote this post:

Quote:

That being said, the whining here of “Nobody told me this! Nobody helped me with this!” is absurd. How many of us have gone to places with little or no info (or at worst, bad info) and had to figure things out on our own? How many of us were able to do so in a relatively short period of time by simply using common sense and not drawing unwanted attention to ourselves via doing stupid, dangerous, or rude shit? I would say just about all of us have. However, every 1000-word post I read in the PB thread, I’m sure is going to end in “…and then her boyfriend showed up and kicked the shit out of me” or “then some local hooligans, growing weary of our drunken, shirtless nonsense, knocked a tooth out”. I don’t even know how someone could help you or give advice on things when it seems like your base level of courtesy and tact (especially while in a foreign country and when dealing with a VERY different culture) are nonexistent.

Now, you mention in your postings that all you want to do is "help" guys who may be interested in going to Belgrade. Let me ask you if you think antagonizing store clerks who probably make ~$300 a month and drawing significant unwanted attention to yourself, resulting in security/public safety officials and a retailer, who were possibly neutral to Westerners up to that point, to say "fuck the USA" is a way to "help" mainly Western guys who go to Belgrade. People on the forum talk about "ruined" EE locations that suffered due to an overcrowding of male "love tourists" alienating the locals. Looks like we'll have to put BGD on watch without a single girl having been touched.

You have talked about your "Serbian friends" "my friends" "my Serbian circle" etc. in posts to almost comical levels; why didn't you simply get one of these guys to speak to the clerk and explain the situation in her language?

But, hey, at least the King of BGD got that Large instead of the Medium.

[Dragan]

@John

This wasn't my interaction with the clerk.

The girl was in the wrong, and they weren't gonna exchange because they have no clue what customer service is.

Part of the fun in Belgrade is doing stuff on your own without the assistance of others.

[Suits]

(06-21-2018 06:03 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

@John

This wasn't my interaction with the clerk.

The girl was in the wrong, and they weren't gonna exchange because they have no clue what customer service is.

Part of the fun in Belgrade is doing stuff on your own without the assistance of others.

Earlier you claimed that a staff member at the retailer range the wrong item up. Are you sure you didn't bring the wrong item to the cashier?

[lookslikeit]

(06-21-2018 06:03 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

@John

This wasn't my interaction with the clerk.

The girl was in the wrong, and they weren't gonna exchange because they have no clue what customer service is.

Part of the fun in Belgrade is doing stuff on your own without the assistance of others.

I'm glad someone pulled the shit on you Dragan. I remember how another roosh member from the US wrote about going to some EU country, found that it is convenient to live there for a few days. Then realized the shit and decided to leave. I also find it funny that another guy wrote how hospitals in Serbia where dirty and unmaintained. Big LOL.

One thing I found good about American Mastercard/Visa, is that I don't worry about double charges, wrong charges or fraudulent charges. You have to understand that until Mastercard/Visa stepped with their strong powers, there is little you can do after you transact with the seller. In the developing world, there is literally NOTHING you can do.

Guys from the US are funny. You are used to the infrastructure you have. Customer protection and law is part of the legal infrastructure. You just assume it because you have not experienced how it is not to have it. This is why I laugh when "small time" guys who had no entrepreneurial career in the US think about opening a business in some shit-developing-country. Lol.

I find it funny when people from the US/Canada or other highly developed countries move to the EE when they are "almost" broke, 20-something, not well travelled, and have lived only on their bubble of a developed country. They are frustrated that their middle-class job is only letting them live a bit over the poor. That girls are "ugly" and not giving them an "easy" time. That the US is going downhill and the refugees are taking their cities. Here is the fix: Let's take the money (wealth) generated by my supposedly shitty country and move to the paradise.

If you are wondering why locals are absurd by some american living in Serbia, then you should no longer wonder. Here is a tip from someone from a third-world: We think of people that move, on purpose, to our countries from their developed world as "LOSERS", pedophiles, or weirdos. A great thing that can help your game is to remove that title: You are now working on some xxx corp for xx time. You don't really like Serbia and you plan to be back to the US.

Now this is just my assessment of things. If you are 20-something moving to a developing country to arbitrage your US salary, I can only see you as a loser. But this certainly doesn't help you realize how much of a loser you are.

Here is a practical tip to know how much you are worth in Serbia "right now".

1. Start approaching girls from 2/10 quality scale.

2. Do a couple approach. Get a number.

3. Call. Invite to "your place" for hanging out.

4. In your place, try to make it like you are going to fuck her (you can go ahead if you want to).

5. Once you realize or are certain that the girl is on the bag, you can send her home and say something like "i got a diahreaa, will call tomorrow".

6. Move to 3/10 quality scale. Rinse and repeat.

7. At some scale, this will no longer work (you get no number, can't get her to your house, don't think she is in the bag for sex, etc...). You then realize how much you are worth now in Serbia.

Say this worked with 4.5/10 girls but you started getting resistance at 5/10. Then your SMV is equivalent to a 4.5.

I know it can be heartbreaking. But this is a practical test to give you the "reality". You are still young. You don't realize how much your SMV is. It might be 9/10 it might 2/10. But it is good to know. So you either stop wasting your time with girls higher than your value or you start raising your own value.

For me when I started game it was 5/5.5. I never imagined myself with something less than a 9 when I was in my 18-20. I then realized that most people don't drive BMWs. Heck most people don't even own a car.

And by the way, if you have "ANY" struggles with 2/10 to get number or to get her ASAP to your place with little to no game, just pack your shit back to your country.

my two cents.

[scengja]

(06-22-2018 03:26 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

(06-21-2018 06:03 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

@John

This wasn't my interaction with the clerk.

The girl was in the wrong, and they weren't gonna exchange because they have no clue what customer service is.

Part of the fun in Belgrade is doing stuff on your own without the assistance of others.

Then realized the shit and decided to leave. I also find it funny that another guy wrote how hospitals in Serbia where dirty and unmaintained. Big LOL.

One thing I found good about American Mastercard/Visa, is that I don't worry about double charges, wrong charges or fraudulent charges. You have to understand that until Mastercard/Visa stepped with their strong powers, there is little you can do after you transact with the seller. In the developing world, there is literally NOTHING you can do.

I agree that people should generally have their shit together before moving to a (less developed) country to try and pick up girls if they do not want to be labelled a "loser" by some locals. "But WHY are you here!?".

On the other hand being in a place with a low cost of living and plenty of time on your hands is a great opportunity to figure out what kind of goals you have in life and work towards them (I left myself as a "loser" going to SEA when I was 19, figured shit out along the way).

With that said my personal experience from Belgrade (having visited 3 times) is that it is not exactly a shithole with dirty hospitals and stores waiting for a chance to skim your credit card in every street corner. I would also not call it "one of the great final frontier's of Eastern Europe" like Dragan did earlier in this thread.

For me Belgrade is a fairly developed European city (with plenty of run-down buildings) that receives a large number of tourists, especially in the summer. It is more Budapest or Prague than it is Minsk or I don't know Tirana if that makes sense.