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I’m leaving the US indefinitely. Where to?
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Not even interested in her datasheets

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Quote: (11-05-2017 10:22 AM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

The example of that in my own life is my success with college girls. When I believed I was in my absolute prime, 25-year-old military pilot, my efforts with that demographic where hit or miss.

Do you happen to do test flights for NASA?
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Quote: (11-05-2017 10:22 AM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

The example of that in my own life is my success with college girls. When I believed I was in my absolute prime, 25-year-old military pilot, my efforts with that demographic where hit or miss.

A pilot in what service? You say you're enrolled in a BS program, but don't you need a bachelor's degree to become an officer and, in turn, become a pilot?

*sniff sniff*
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Quote: (11-05-2017 05:38 AM)Stallion Wrote:  

What I would do is spend one year in 6 locations, 2 months each. Maybe something like Hong Kong, BKK, Shanghai, Medellin, Lima, Kiev... it really depends on your personal preference.

As others said there are million of threads on the forum already to help you pick locations.

Only after you have lived in 5 or 10 different countries for a few months you can get a feel of what works best for you.

I like this strategy but Hong Kong and Shanghai are very expensive cities, so they go off the list.

I am in a similar predicament to OP.

Bangkok, Medellin and Kiev seem to be 3 of the few RooshVforum Tier 1 cities.

For me Colombian girls are too high maintenance, bipolar, emotional, Medellin is a bit of a low culture city. If I knew Russian Kiev would be great, but without Russian it's very difficult.

I have my sights set on Bangkok despite the brutally hot weather and the flat ass no hipped women.
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As a show of goodwill, I will recommend some spots.

I'm lazy and I'm not going to look up the cost of living index stuff, but Asia might be right for you. On $3.5k you can live reasonably comfortably while you hit the gym, read good books and bang feminine, friendly women. Da Nang Vietnam is pretty cool, as is Shenzhen, China.

P.S. You really should take BeyondBorders' suggestion seriously. I've seen many newbies come here, make big contributions and receive precious data publically and privately. I've also seen newbies come in here firing off like we owe them something and they do not last long.

I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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I'm not a huge fan of Vietnam for long term living. Very hectic, loud, language barrier, weather, traffic, etc... And a lot of the women that are attractive probably have worked in some sort of sex industry. Da Nang is a boring city with not many hot women.

I think Saigon is a great place to visit for 5 days, but that's about it for Vietnam.

Shenzhen seemed nice but too expensive and language barrier... There were a surprising number of hot Eastern European girls that I saw in my short stay there.

I think being based in Bangkok with all these great short term cities a short direct flight away is the most optimal option for Asia.
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Quote: (11-05-2017 11:18 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-05-2017 05:38 AM)Stallion Wrote:  

Having that kind of passive income there is no need to decide for a place yet.

Actually it would be the worst idea. How do you know that your first choice was the perfect one?

What I would do is spend one year in 6 locations, 2 months each. Maybe something like Hong Kong, BKK, Shanghai, Medellin, Lima, Kiev... it really depends on your personal preference.

As others said there are million of threads on the forum already to help you pick locations.

Only after you have lived in 5 or 10 different countries for a few months you can get a feel of what works best for you.

As far as I know the visa regulations in Peru require you to leave every six months and you can't come back for a while, Kiev allows no more than 90 days and you can't come pack for a while, Peru allows only 6 months and you can't come back for a while, Thailand is an eternal pain of flying in and out, China seems to require you to either work or leave every 4 months, which is not too bad, but still a pain, and Thailand is even worse.

Have you actually lived in these countries without working and know how to stay there long term while living off of passive income like the OP mentioned, or are you just a tourist like a lot of the guys on "digital nomad" forums and don't know what you're talking about in regards to the OP's question, which was about leaving the U.S. indefinitely to another country? Not being rude, I'm actually curious if you're just a tourist or if you actually have knowledge on how to stay in these places long term like the OP is considering while living off passive income.

There's a big difference between those of us that have achieved that level of passive income and are looking for what the OP is looking for and folks that have read about being location independent and think using their two week vacation to bang whores and take seminars in Chiang Mai or Kiev makes them location independent. Again, not being rude, would really like to know if you know what you're talking about, as I've been looking for exactly that information myself and have found some countries that are viable, but I'm sure there's some I missed.

Yeah, staying long term without a proper work visa is a pain. Another reason why I would suggest OP to stay for short periods like 2 months. He will get sick of constantly moving at some point, and then it will be time to look for more permanent solutions. But at the beginning? why become location independent if you are going to limit yourself to ONE location?



I'm not strictly location independent as I get a work visa in each country I want to live in, but I have lived in 6 different countries over the past 8 years.

In addition I've done a few 60-90 days "vacations" in between jobs. Most countries in the world are eligible for 90 days visa on entry (at least with my EU passport). Leaving for a couple weeks normally let's you get a new visa, so in theory you can jump around 3 or 4 countries forever.

What if you can't come back to Peru for a few months? you should be somewhere else meanwhile!

What I'm suggesting (move every 2 months) is actually way easier than staying long term (6 months or many years, whatever) in the same place, precisely because of the visa requirements you mention.

That's why I think you should try a bunch of different countries first (on a 90 days tourist visa). That way you find what works better for you, and avoid going through the pain of applying for a longer visa in a place that you end up hating after 1 month.




BTW, about "the pain of flying in and out of Thailand"

The only "long term" country where I didn't get a work visa (even though I was working as an intern) was Thailand. I stayed for 10 months on tourist visas (to be renewed every 3 months).

But a quick weekend trip to Phnom Penh was all I needed. I would fly Wednesday evening and normally be back by Monday with a new Thai Visa. Plus a whole weekend getting drunk in Cambodia.

Or you can just pay for one of those "1 year student visas" that some agencies sell. Thailand is perfect for this kind of lifestyle, because of how easy it is to hack the visa system.



You are right about Shanghai though, China is not a good place to do this "2 month reconnaissance trips". Hong Kong works though, I only stayed for 1 month but the visa is for 90 days. You can fly for a 5 days weekend in Shanghai if you fancy.

I chose those cities randomly, my mistake for including Shanghai.



If you plan on staying longer than 3 months as a location independent guy, I'm sorry I can't help you. I just get a job as an engineer and it has worked out fine for now.


Quote: (11-06-2017 12:26 AM)SuperMaleVitality Wrote:  

For me Colombian girls are too high maintenance, bipolar, emotional, Medellin is a bit of a low culture city. If I knew Russian Kiev would be great, but without Russian it's very difficult.

I have my sights set on Bangkok despite the brutally hot weather and the flat ass no hipped women.

Quote: (11-06-2017 03:37 AM)SuperMaleVitality Wrote:  

I think Saigon is a great place to visit for 5 days, but that's about it for Vietnam.

Shenzhen seemed nice but too expensive and language barrier... There were a surprising number of hot Eastern European girls that I saw in my short stay there.

I think being based in Bangkok with all these great short term cities a short direct flight away is the most optimal option for Asia.


That's why I suggest trying for 30 to 90 days first... if you end up not liking Colombia, or bkk, or whatever, just take a plane and go somewhere else. Nothing lost. However if you go through all the paperwork to get a long term work/student visa and then get sick of it, moving is much harder.


Why the hell would you become location independent, and then get stuck in one single location?


And yeah, give BKK a chance, you wont regret it. Specially if you have the cash to fly around SEA.

If you are location independent, you are also schedule independent, so you can think about joining a Muay Thai/BJJ gym half time... this is something I wish I could do someday.


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Quote: (11-06-2017 12:26 AM)SuperMaleVitality Wrote:  

If I knew Russian Kiev would be great, but without Russian it's very difficult.

Let me give it a spin for you... what about a 2 months intensive Russian course in Kiev? Just saying, if I became 100% location independent, that would be one of my first ideas.
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Quote: (11-05-2017 10:22 AM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

To clarify a few points. I spent the better portion of a month browsing through the wealth of datasheets on this forum before posting. If my initial brevity made those efforts seem unappreciated, that is certainly not the case.

The primary issue with most of the datasheets is they are written from the perspective of someone who is visiting temporarily for the sake of bedding women. That’s great, there’s a lot of good information that I would have never been exposed to if I did not read them, but It’s innately different from moving to a place to stay.

The example of that in my own life is my success with college girls. When I believed I was in my absolute prime, 25-year-old military pilot, my efforts with that demographic where hit or miss. I was always playing an away game. I always had to win over whatever band of drunks had congregated around the girl of interest. Now that I’m in school, even though the age gap has increased, the game damn near plays itself. I join student orgs where I can showcase my skill set (the boxing and rifle clubs work best) and girls flock to the value that I display. If there’s honest interest in that method I can put up a datasheet for Chapel Hill. I’m hesitant to offer advice if the reactions are going to be needlessly negative.

There's quite a few relocation data sheets here, and a lot of info on that subject that goes deeper than bedding women though as men of course it's always a top priority. Keep looking I'm sure you'll find a lot of good info. Maybe posting a bit more adding a couple of data sheets may help get the responses you are looking for. A lot of countries in the ache gen may have the cities you are looking for just utilize the Hungary/Poland loophole and youre good to go. Good luck bro!!!

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Quote: (11-06-2017 03:32 PM)Stallion Wrote:  

That's why I suggest trying for 30 to 90 days first... if you end up not liking Colombia, or bkk, or whatever, just take a plane and go somewhere else. Nothing lost. However if you go through all the paperwork to get a long term work/student visa and then get sick of it, moving is much harder.

Why the hell would you become location independent, and then get stuck in one single location?

And yeah, give BKK a chance, you wont regret it. Specially if you have the cash to fly around SEA.

If you are location independent, you are also schedule independent, so you can think about joining a Muay Thai/BJJ gym half time... this is something I wish I could do someday.

I keep hearing this, I'll have to do some research on it, I had crossed it out due to the flying in and out required (or not, like you mentioned), but we'll see, the plusses (very low cost of living for the amenities) may outweigh the cons. Much appreciated.
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If OP is just starting out as a young man, he may not have much if anything at all to offer. He has not accumulated anything to write a datasheet. That makes no sense. However, he does need to use the search feature and read through several threads.

Start with the Black Man travel thread OP. Read that entire thread. From there, you will probably know what places you might want to focus on. If you have questions, ask in the threads that have that subject.

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Thanks for the help guys. There are a lot of strong locations that I would have never thought to investigate without these suggestions. Serbia certainly wouldn't have been on my radar.

Quote: (11-05-2017 12:11 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

@BeyoundBorders makes great points! Please contribute to this forum before asking a bunch of questions. For example you can start by telling us how you are making over $3,000/month in passive income or why you would want to enroll in a foreign university in your 30s

I didn't know this thing was a common hoax. After looking around a bit I can see that it is a problem. I put out a Chapel Hill datasheet and I'm working on a "how I attained $3000 of passive inc narrative".

The reason I want to leave may sound a bit sappy, but it's true. In my experience the intelligent attractive women that I've dated/slept with are the furthest from wanting to settle down. I want a family, not a collection of women that I get to bang (even though that feels really good). I have a staggering number highly qualified military friends who have had their lives ruined by American women. The painfully common theme in the military was that a women would let you put a couple kids in them only to later decide that you were deployed too often or spent too many hours at work and then cheat on/divorce you. As insult to injury, when these guys finally broke down and contacted the MPs (military police) it was them that had to leave the life that they built.

I haven't stayed in NYC longer than a few of days in Brooklyn. I honestly can't see myself staying there, but it may be worth a visit. It sounds like I need to do more of a tour of Europe before I pull the trigger on relocation. My immediate concern with that is that I would be getting the tourist edition of each country I went to, and it would be difficult to regularly get to the gym. That may sound petty, but fitness at 32 seems nonnegotiable since I date younger women.

@Spaniard88

Universities in Poland and Estonia offer guidance to attaining a student visas. I imagine most countries that are open to international students have similar options. Estonia in particular seems to be openly soliciting people to work and stay in their country.

This is University of Tartu's portal for int students.

https://www.ut.ee/en/international

This is a site I use to price apartments in EE.

www.city24.ee/en/;jsessionid=87DB94BB74B41B3EA1E7A2CE5CF0AC90

This is a site I use to browse potential university programs, though I doubt it's comprehensive.

www.bachelorsportal.com/
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OP is Derek Jeter.
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Quote:Quote:

This is University of Tartu's portal for int students.

https://www.ut.ee/en/international

This is a site I use to price apartments in EE.

www.city24.ee/en/;jsessionid=87DB94BB74B41B3EA1E7A2CE5CF0AC90

This is a site I use to browse potential university programs, though I doubt it's comprehensive.

www.bachelorsportal.com/

I studied at Tartu (eventually dropped out, decided to move to Western Europe), it is the pretty good place to be, city moves around student life. Ruutli street and Raatuse dormitory are places to hang-out. Full with a bit naive girls who are hungry for foreign guys with qualities (Estonian guys are nerdy and grumpy, never compliment girls). Male/Female ratio matches your plans.

There are few clubs where you can easily pull sluts.
In winter things gets pretty nasty -20 degrees (I did not enjoy that cold at all)

You can always take a bus to Tallinn and refresh a bit or down to Riga for a weekend.

I had a GF and did not game but friends were scoring pretty easily. Those cold Estonian girls crack after few drinks.

Mind that to get Estonian passport it is not so easy, language is difficult and you need to live there 7 years or so. if I remember correct, one of few countries in EU you can't get the passport with marriage.

BTW locals are not that open to foreigners, it is not Poland or the Czech Republic. Because of their past, Estonians are super patriotic people.
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Personally I'd say it depends on what kind of women do you like OP.... Asian, latinas, white????

"I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story." Nas
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Thanks for responding to the earlier criticism in the right way by creating the first datasheet and working on the second one that you will post soon.

Quote: (11-04-2017 08:14 PM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

Criteria for the next country:
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Must have a university program with English instruction. I intend on using school as a primary point of entry into my new social atmosphere.

Prefer younger population to have some English ability. While I will be actively pursuing fluency in the language of whatever country I move to, I don’t want to wait 6 months- 1 year before I can start talking to the women I’m dating.

Prefer lower population density. In my experience the more urbanized a population the more they begin to obsess on meaningless things.

Prefer minimal feminist and homo idolized culture.
Forget about all this and visit some countries and meet some guys from this forum. You don't know what you don't know. Source - a guy who has lived in several different countries and is actively living outside of the west.

This forum has more than enough information to help you pick a region to start with after you answer ElJefe1's question. Unfortunately women in all regions have their challenges so you should expect things to get worse (as you learn a new culture) before they get better. Also, you will find that you can't categorize women by country as many countries have more diverse cultures than what you are used to, i.e. the difference between the women in small town southern Mexico and Mexico City might be 10 times the difference between women in various parts of USA.

Many guys find that they prefer women who don't speak English because those women are much less likely to be influenced by western culture. So this is an example of "you don't know what you don't know" because your requirements of a young English speaking population eliminate many of the best places for you to go and 6 months of sacrifice in learning a new language is a very short time.

Also, you have a 50+ notch count so it's not like you have been looking for good girls at churches. 99% chance you will rationalize that I'm wrong but I can tell you that some of your problems with women are problems in your head and not the problems of women. Source - a guy who has a higher notch count and deeper understanding of psychology than you do.

Best of luck.
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With each passing day the definition of "Passive Income" gets broader and broader.

Soon it'll be if you work for a small company with no HR department, and you can choose whether to work 8-4 or 9-5, well shit son that's practically passive income! You've made it, better go tell the internet.
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Quote: (11-08-2017 05:18 PM)musampa Wrote:  

I studied at Tartu (eventually dropped out, decided to move to Western Europe), it is the pretty good place to be, city moves around student life. Ruutli street and Raatuse dormitory are places to hang-out. Full with a bit naive girls who are hungry for foreign guys with qualities (Estonian guys are nerdy and grumpy, never compliment girls). Male/Female ratio matches your plans.

@musampa

Thanks musampa. I don't want to pry, but did you end up staying in WE? From what I'm seeing on here, the Europe may be an easier cultural transition but the countries seem to be linguistically isolated. I hear what your saying with Estonian, there seems to be less resources for learning.

@ElJefe1

The best relationship I've had to date was with a half/Chinese girl at school, but I think her attitude kept me around more than anything else. However, I seem to be drawn into mini relationships with Brunette girls who are shorter than me (5'4"-5'8). Mostly girls with a nice ass and smaller in the chest (b cups). There is something about that build that keeps me in bed all day.

@ birthday cat

I think your right about just getting out there... probably a fair assessment about the notches
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Quote: (11-08-2017 10:01 PM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

Quote: (11-08-2017 05:18 PM)musampa Wrote:  

I studied at Tartu (eventually dropped out, decided to move to Western Europe), it is the pretty good place to be, city moves around student life. Ruutli street and Raatuse dormitory are places to hang-out. Full with a bit naive girls who are hungry for foreign guys with qualities (Estonian guys are nerdy and grumpy, never compliment girls). Male/Female ratio matches your plans.

@musampa

Thanks musampa. I don't want to pry, but did you end up staying in WE? From what I'm seeing on here, the Europe may be an easier cultural transition but the countries seem to be linguistically isolated. I hear what your saying with Estonian, there seems to be less resources for learning.

Well, yes I stayed in WE and I prefer it here than in Estonia (life feels more real in WE than in Estonia) but it is a matter of personal preferences - for game and girls in Estonia is way better than any WE country in my opinion.

If you still want to go to Estonia, Tallinn is better location than Tartu I believe (more people, job market, way more international, tons of Russian chicks, they have universities and you can always go to Finland - cross by ferry and bang few Finnish sluts on weekends).

https://www.workinestonia.com/ - can be useful for you as well, just to know what to expect.
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Half-black but disciplined... Don't do Latin America, especially not Panama. Don't do Southern Europe.

2900-3500... well, you are used to share your shower with 20 other guys, so no clue what your life standard expectations are.

In Japan / Korea people will see you as their brainless sex doll, not sure how you think about that longterm, and no universities for you. I'm not so much the Asian expert, but I traveled for like 7 years. If you see yourself as somewhat pedophile, and you still need American guys to hangout, Asia needs to be on your radar.

Where I see half-black military type guys performing well, was mainly Eastern Europe, Japan,South Korea and Scandinavia (don't do Denmark). You won't learn a language like Czech, and no clue about Visa, so go to a country where everyone speaks English but where it's not flooded by sex tourists or bachelor parties.

Romania is my best bet for you (perhaps a second tier university city). Smart people, good universities, really fucked up work mentality. Hot girls. Everyone speaks English. Check also Chișinău, and Belgrad (haven't been to Belgrad). But no clue if you like the type of girls.

Also learning Russian gives you a lot of options...
Basically blacks need to learn Russian, White need to learn Spanish :-)
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Quote: (11-05-2017 05:38 AM)Stallion Wrote:  

Having that kind of passive income there is no need to decide for a place yet.

Actually it would be the worst idea. How do you know that your first choice was the perfect one?

What I would do is spend one year in 6 locations, 2 months each. Maybe something like Hong Kong, BKK, Shanghai, Medellin, Lima, Kiev... it really depends on your personal preference.

As others said there are million of threads on the forum already to help you pick locations.

Only after you have lived in 5 or 10 different countries for a few months you can get a feel of what works best for you.

^^ That's great advice for the OP.

Make a shortlist of 8 cities. Stay 1.5 months in each. Then out of them pick the 2-3 cities that you liked the most and organise your year depending on the climate / lifestyle / visa situation etc.

Taking into account your criteria, here's a list I've put together for you:

Hanoi.
Taipei.
Lviv.
Zagreb.
Katowice.
Porto/Lisbon.
Manziales.
Cusco.

(Note: With that type of income you will live a high Q.O.L. in these locations).
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The less developed world / more conservative cultures just constrain female behavior.

Women are women everywhere.

While American women are particularly nasty these days and the military always had it's particular issues, going somewhere rural in the US where you feel comfortable and building a life there might be the better choice over going all in with a foreign country just to find out later that the same caveats apply and you'll always be seen as "the foreigner" in addition (especially if you go to Asia).

Divorce rates in any developed countries are massive these days:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography
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Quote: (11-07-2017 12:29 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-06-2017 03:32 PM)Stallion Wrote:  

And yeah, give BKK a chance, you wont regret it. Specially if you have the cash to fly around SEA.

If you are location independent, you are also schedule independent, so you can think about joining a Muay Thai/BJJ gym half time... this is something I wish I could do someday.

I keep hearing this, I'll have to do some research on it, I had crossed it out due to the flying in and out required (or not, like you mentioned), but we'll see, the plusses (very low cost of living for the amenities) may outweigh the cons. Much appreciated.


You don't need to fly in and out to enjoy BKK. But if you can afford frequent flying, then it will be even more awesome.

Even to move around Thailand air travel can make your life so much easier. For example a 2-3 days scuba diving trip wouldn't be worth it if you go by land, but it's totally feasible if you have the cash to fly. (you still need to take a boat to get to the good spots... but 40 minutes flight+2 hours boat ride is much better than 10 hours bus ride + boat).

And it also opens the door to the rest of Asia. Not only weekend trips around SEA. Other places like Korea or Japan are also reasonably close, and usually cost just a couple 100 USD.



If you referring to the need to go in and out of TH every 90 days.. yes, I can imagine it becoming a pain int he ass if you stay long term .

Doing it by land is not so horrible (I did it once because I wanted to stop by Angkor for a few days) but you definitely need a few days. Flying can get expensive so many times per year.


There are alternatives to get rid of this visa runs... but be warned that they are in a legal grey area. However when I was there (4 years ago) everyone was doing them with no consequences.

1) the "semilegal" way. You pay for a whole year of Thai studies in a Thai language school. But you only have 1 or 2 hours of classes per week. This language schools know you don't care about the classes and joined just for the visa, there are entire language schools who specialize in this hack.

2) the "lazy" way. Same as above, but with 0 hours of class per week. These are agencies that disguise themselves as language schools, but their only purpose is to give foreigners long term visas to "study" Thai. As long as you pay, they are happy to lie to immigration and say you are a student.


Beware than when I was there (4 years ago) there where rumors of immigration officers getting stricter against this hacks.

They were starting to do stuff like speak to you in Thai during your yearly visa extension paperwork. If you have been there for a year, officially to study Thai, they expected you to be able to answer simple questions in Thai.

But honestly, if after 1 year in Thailand you are not able to answer questions like "where are you from" you deserve to get kicked out of the country.


This brings me to the real hack, and is totally legal. If you are ok with living long term in a country... why don't you learn the fucking language? Even if it's just out of respect for the locals, everyone should do this.

Almost every country will give you a student visa for that. Spanish, Russian, Thai, Vietnamese... I don't care. Just join a language school for 10 hours per week and profit your long term visa.

As an example, here in Prague I have met people from all over the world (Americans, Peruvian, Australian, Korean...) that are here for longer than 1 year because "they are learning Czech". The language school takes care of the visa stuff, all you have to do is show up to the classes a couple of times per week.


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Sorry for bumping this thread for this off topic, but I thought this info may help someone.
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Quote: (11-08-2017 04:38 PM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

Thanks for the help guys. There are a lot of strong locations that I would have never thought to investigate without these suggestions. Serbia certainly wouldn't have been on my radar.

Quote: (11-05-2017 12:11 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

@BeyoundBorders makes great points! Please contribute to this forum before asking a bunch of questions. For example you can start by telling us how you are making over $3,000/month in passive income or why you would want to enroll in a foreign university in your 30s

I didn't know this thing was a common hoax. After looking around a bit I can see that it is a problem. I put out a Chapel Hill datasheet and I'm working on a "how I attained $3000 of passive inc narrative".

The reason I want to leave may sound a bit sappy, but it's true. In my experience the intelligent attractive women that I've dated/slept with are the furthest from wanting to settle down. I want a family, not a collection of women that I get to bang (even though that feels really good). I have a staggering number highly qualified military friends who have had their lives ruined by American women. The painfully common theme in the military was that a women would let you put a couple kids in them only to later decide that you were deployed too often or spent too many hours at work and then cheat on/divorce you. As insult to injury, when these guys finally broke down and contacted the MPs (military police) it was them that had to leave the life that they built. [EMPHASIS ADDED]
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Yeah, the MGTOW answer to getting screwed over for being a man is one harsh unendearing reality in the old US of A.

The newest expose of the scam is "The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power Paperback" by Stephen Baskerville (July 2017), a political scientist.

I've heard the author on the radio and his book is an easy next buy for me. reads one endorsement: " 'The New Politics of Sex' is a brilliant, long-needed, diagnosis of the deliberately fostered collapse of the institutions of the West. It is a must-read for anyone who has authority (parents, pastors, teachers, politicians, administrators, judges, police, doctors, and more). Never has humankind been up against so darkly brilliant and pervasive an enemy...."

But back to your exit strategy and exploring particular solutions.

As I see it, without the luxury of direct experience abroad, you face a triangulation problem: missing between the visiting young gamers (like HERE) and the long-term resident, old and retired, are the young expats...like you. Got it!

I too am struck by the viability and desirability of Belgrade, Serbia. It looks to me like one of the best to consider.

Another option to consider is close and closely related: Zagreb, Croatia.

Mention Croatia, and people will think of the Adriatic coasts and summer (if they think at all about the country). Serbo-Croation is really the same language - but the more western oriented Croatia tries to alter spellings just to be different and reinforce political separation.

Coastal Croatia is a seasonal (summer) and expensive thing, with prices like Western Europe. The capital of Croatia - Zagreb is generally much cheaper. Zagreb is maybe half the size of Belgrade, much prettier, yet still the industrial and political heartland of inner (ie, rural and agricultural) Croatia (which is THE boomerang shaped nation you must not fail to notice).

Croatians learn English early in school and throughout their school years. Thus, you will not need to use uni to build a social life. And while learning some Croatian is great, the necessity of learning a lot will quickly fade.

SIDE STORY about college: consider completing the biology degree you've started through a nonresidential degree program. The website "bain4weeks.com" (or "BA in 4 Weeks" time) gives you a template on how to do it; just adapt it to your needs, interests and abilities! (For example, SEE http://www.degreeinfo.com/clep-dantes-ot...valid.html)

The website forum at "degreeinfo.com" has plenty of people completing their degrees principally by course-exam credit (as well as independent study and classroom work). Maybe one-third are ex-military like you! (And often they are prepping to enter a Masters program.) They are an awesome success-building resource for otherwise isolated students.

Excelsior University in Albany, New York, Charter Oak State College of New Jersey are likely your best options. (Although if you have or can easily gain residence in New Jersy, then Thomas Edison State University is a great option - otherwise it is ridiculously expensive.)

Testing (eg, Excelsior College Exams) can be done in most cities, save CLEP exams that would require a trip to a US military installation like Aviano, Italy - and perhaps some rarer and US-oriented institutions like Webster University abroad, etc. Unlike these, military bases have testing offices with flexible and continuous computer-based testing.

At any rate, this distance method to a good degree is a low-cost ($6K) option - and probably the best if you are one or more years into your degree program. Provided that you are a self-starter (or need to become one and can develop the skills to do it).

Now, BACK TO YOUR STATED PLANS.

Finding a first university degree program ALL IN ENGLISH in (continental) Europe is rare. For example, SEE the University of Zagreb: http://www.unizg.hr/homepage/study-at-th...n-english/

Master's level degrees, however, are becoming popular - sometimes maybe half? Or fewer....

Zagreb is costlier to live in than Belgrade. But people are welcoming to Americans (see threads and data sheet here at Rooshv).

If you are interested in evaluating the Belgrade option, then you must also consider Zagreb.

RESIDENCY PERMIT in Croatia is straight-forward (albeit bureaucracy in Europe is often a hurdle [as well as a hindrance to their economic development): https://internationalliving.com/countries/croatia/visa/

You've also mentioned a preference for a smaller town for solid reasons.

After Zagreb, towns become small in Croatia - several hundred thousand or so. One such place to consider is about 90 miles West of Zagreb, the biggest port city for the old Yugoslavia, Rijeka (about 200,000). It is one of the very few sea-side towns that's least attractive and therefore most ignored by summer sun seekers. (It is even ignored in Croatian tour guide books.)

It has a small but attractive old town, but much of Rijeka is scarred by ugly communist era concrete block buildings. But maybe the tough people work harder to survive and bring forth more worthy well-rooted flowers? (And the beauty of the sea and mountains is close and not far away, anyway.)

Here's a LINK to uni study in English, in Croatia - among them, the University of Rijeka (econ, business, etc):
http://www.studyincroatia.hr/studying-in...g-language

But according to this web page, the Bachelors Degree in Business is the only first degree in Croatia taught entirely in English:
http://www.efzg.unizg.hr/default.aspx?id=10661

Good luck on finding great NEW Home!

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I’m leaving the US indefinitely. Where to?

Quote: (11-22-2017 04:35 AM)Orson Wrote:  

Quote: (11-08-2017 04:38 PM)PallasAchilles Wrote:  

Thanks for the help guys. There are a lot of strong locations that I would have never thought to investigate without these suggestions. Serbia certainly wouldn't have been on my radar.

Quote: (11-05-2017 12:11 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

@BeyoundBorders makes great points! Please contribute to this forum before asking a bunch of questions. For example you can start by telling us how you are making over $3,000/month in passive income or why you would want to enroll in a foreign university in your 30s

I didn't know this thing was a common hoax. After looking around a bit I can see that it is a problem. I put out a Chapel Hill datasheet and I'm working on a "how I attained $3000 of passive inc narrative".

The reason I want to leave may sound a bit sappy, but it's true. In my experience the intelligent attractive women that I've dated/slept with are the furthest from wanting to settle down. I want a family, not a collection of women that I get to bang (even though that feels really good). I have a staggering number highly qualified military friends who have had their lives ruined by American women. The painfully common theme in the military was that a women would let you put a couple kids in them only to later decide that you were deployed too often or spent too many hours at work and then cheat on/divorce you. As insult to injury, when these guys finally broke down and contacted the MPs (military police) it was them that had to leave the life that they built. [EMPHASIS ADDED]
_ _ _

Yeah, the MGTOW answer to getting screwed over for being a man is one harsh unendearing reality in the old US of A.

The newest expose of the scam is "The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power Paperback" by Stephen Baskerville (July 2017), a political scientist.

I've heard the author on the radio and his book is an easy next buy for me. reads one endorsement: " 'The New Politics of Sex' is a brilliant, long-needed, diagnosis of the deliberately fostered collapse of the institutions of the West. It is a must-read for anyone who has authority (parents, pastors, teachers, politicians, administrators, judges, police, doctors, and more). Never has humankind been up against so darkly brilliant and pervasive an enemy...."

But back to your exit strategy and exploring particular solutions.

As I see it, without the luxury of direct experience abroad, you face a triangulation problem: missing between the visiting young gamers (like HERE) and the long-term resident, old and retired, are the young expats...like you. Got it!

I too am struck by the viability and desirability of Belgrade, Serbia. It looks to me like one of the best to consider.

Another option to consider is close and closely related: Zagreb, Croatia.

Mention Croatia, and people will think of the Adriatic coasts and summer (if they think at all about the country). Serbo-Croation is really the same language - but the more western oriented Croatia tries to alter spellings just to be different and reinforce political separation.

Coastal Croatia is a seasonal (summer) and expensive thing, with prices like Western Europe. The capital of Croatia - Zagreb is generally much cheaper. Zagreb is maybe half the size of Belgrade, much prettier, yet still the industrial and political heartland of inner (ie, rural and agricultural) Croatia (which is THE boomerang shaped nation you must not fail to notice).

Croatians learn English early in school and throughout their school years. Thus, you will not need to use uni to build a social life. And while learning some Croatian is great, the necessity of learning a lot will quickly fade.

SIDE STORY about college: consider completing the biology degree you've started through a nonresidential degree program. The website "bain4weeks.com" (or "BA in 4 Weeks" time) gives you a template on how to do it; just adapt it to your needs, interests and abilities! (For example, SEE http://www.degreeinfo.com/clep-dantes-ot...valid.html)

The website forum at "degreeinfo.com" has plenty of people completing their degrees principally by course-exam credit (as well as independent study and classroom work). Maybe one-third are ex-military like you! (And often they are prepping to enter a Masters program.) They are an awesome success-building resource for otherwise isolated students.

Excelsior University in Albany, New York, Charter Oak State College of New Jersey are likely your best options. (Although if you have or can easily gain residence in New Jersy, then Thomas Edison State University is a great option - otherwise it is ridiculously expensive.)

Testing (eg, Excelsior College Exams) can be done in most cities, save CLEP exams that would require a trip to a US military installation like Aviano, Italy - and perhaps some rarer and US-oriented institutions like Webster University abroad, etc. Unlike these, military bases have testing offices with flexible and continuous computer-based testing.

At any rate, this distance method to a good degree is a low-cost ($6K) option - and probably the best if you are one or more years into your degree program. Provided that you are a self-starter (or need to become one and can develop the skills to do it).

Now, BACK TO YOUR STATED PLANS.

Finding a first university degree program ALL IN ENGLISH in (continental) Europe is rare. For example, SEE the University of Zagreb: http://www.unizg.hr/homepage/study-at-th...n-english/

Master's level degrees, however, are becoming popular - sometimes maybe half? Or fewer....

Zagreb is costlier to live in than Belgrade. But people are welcoming to Americans (see threads and data sheet here at Rooshv).

If you are interested in evaluating the Belgrade option, then you must also consider Zagreb.

RESIDENCY PERMIT in Croatia is straight-forward (albeit bureaucracy in Europe is often a hurdle [as well as a hindrance to their economic development): https://internationalliving.com/countries/croatia/visa/

You've also mentioned a preference for a smaller town for solid reasons.

After Zagreb, towns become small in Croatia - several hundred thousand or so. One such place to consider is about 90 miles West of Zagreb, the biggest port city for the old Yugoslavia, Rijeka (about 200,000). It is one of the very few sea-side towns that's least attractive and therefore most ignored by summer sun seekers. (It is even ignored in Croatian tour guide books.)

It has a small but attractive old town, but much of Rijeka is scarred by ugly communist era concrete block buildings. But maybe the tough people work harder to survive and bring forth more worthy well-rooted flowers? (And the beauty of the sea and mountains is close and not far away, anyway.)

Here's a LINK to uni study in English, in Croatia - among them, the University of Rijeka (econ, business, etc):
http://www.studyincroatia.hr/studying-in...g-language

But according to this web page, the Bachelors Degree in Business is the only first degree in Croatia taught entirely in English:
http://www.efzg.unizg.hr/default.aspx?id=10661

Good luck on finding great NEW Home!

If you don't mind my asking man, do you know how businesses determine what degrees are accredited and what degrees aren't since the academic rigor of the U.S. is much higher than universities in many other countries? I'm in a similar boat with the OP of this thread. I'm a Junior in college right now, but, probably a Sophomore in terms of credits. I've wanted to study abroad for quite a while, but, none of the programs at my University interested me. I'm trilingual so I know I might have a few options.The thing is though, I don't want to do some sort of study abroad with my Universty where I am required to hang out with Americans for a month, take some diversity liberal arts classes, then leave.

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