[CynicalContrarian]

(11-07-2018 08:02 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

As a confused Brit looking on, my takes from the elections are thus;

Everyone is voting tribally except Whites. Demographics will indeed be everything.

Despite massive Dem campaign spending, bombings, shootings, rape accusations and a hostile media, Trump hasn't done badly at all (historically speaking) and has even made some gains.

The big worry for me, is Trump's age. He's a force of nature but at 72 he hasn't got many good years left. Where are all the young Trumps coming through? He should have inspired a shitload of copycats and proteges to carry on the fight, surely! Where are they?

Nothing lasts forever.
If they don't show up or if the Trump son's cannot keep the home fires burning.
At least Trump gave the American 'empire' another good eight years.

Even though it is an empire of pop-culture & pop-capitalism, it's still an empire of sorts & no empire lasts forever...

[Paracelsus]

(11-07-2018 02:06 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(11-07-2018 01:36 AM)moneyshot Wrote:  

So... the Muslim lady who won in Minnesota married her brother... and had 3 kids with him.

And there are """people""" who think Islam is a good thing.

The Democrats may have shot themselves in the foot.
They now have a Congress with the likes of this Iilan Omar, Crazy Cortez, Nancy Pelosi & all the other deranged nutters.

Herding that mob towards a singular vision or a singular path will be quite the task.

Don't count on it. The one thing the Left has, partly because it has double digit IQ followers, partly because it sells shit that nobody has to pay for, is that it has great party discipline. It still knows how to hold its nose and sort out its ideological differences in private, do its horse-trading in private. It still knows the best way to hide the far-left snake in the grass is to be the grass.

The right, by contrast, still has a Never-Trump contingent.

Seriously, think about that. Two fucking years after a victory against impossible odds and against one of the best-connected, most experienced political operators in America, and even after Trump started putting conservatives on the Supreme Court, there are still dickheads on the right who oppose the direction Trump is pushing the country. Lindsey Graham and co. only learned to shitlord when the Left started accosting them personally, and after they got Kavanaugh confirmed they went right back to sucking Soros cock.

Where were the Never-Clintons when Cigar Bill first got elected? Or relevantly, does anybody still believe the BernieBros are voting for Republicans in protest against Sanders being stabbed in the back?

As said, the Left claims it's about diversity and shit, but what it's really about is: only start the race war after we've crushed anyone to our right.

The right is still stupid enough to think it can rip at itself in public and give off the impression that it has a concrete vision or values to present to America. About the only vision it has is No Single Payer Health Insurance, A Big Army, and please-don't-add-any-more-ID-checks-for-automatic-weapons, yo. Seriously, the Left could try to legislate guns out of existence and it wouldn't make a dent in gun supply and production. There are too many caches already out there in Montana and points east, and when it gets down to it, too many corrupt US Army supply clerks for the weapon supply to the Rural Militias to ever be really stopped. Bigger gun controls will just make it more profitable for gunrunners and arms dealers, because the risk/reward ratio will be even higher, just as with the drug industry.

Trump is how you do a single vision. He didn't have to talk about the Constitution, he went on simple themes, stuff that people can immediately get and that people give a shit about in their souls: get American jobs back and build a fucking wall. He's succeeded on the first, and had he the right unified he'd get the second.

The Left has scored an own goal on this one, to be sure. No Senate means no impeachment, no matter how many investigations they run, and for every headline, every Russiagate they fan up, Trump's faster on the tweets and can still take control of media cycles with one suggestion that he imperil the 14th Amendment, and he now has a handy person to blame whenever they try and stymie what he does: the House. And if they try and block him too hard, it gives him an excuse to actually use those executive powers he has, which are a lot more extensive than you might think. Ending foreign aid; pardons; executive orders; rescinding regulations; firing big tranches of Federal swamp dwellers. These are all things the House has zero power to affect, and if Kavanaugh votes conservatively, the Supreme Court won't stop him either. Any legislation the Democrats propose even with Never-Trump Quislings, he can kill and force Never-Trumpers right out in the open by forcing Congress to a 2/3 override of his veto.

But as said, it's still a weak right, because it still doesn't know how to fight its wars in the age of the tweet. (I might add that tweets are the primary reason Trump will never, ever act against Twitter. Why would you burn up one of the best communication channels he has to the plebs, the primary tool he has to force the news cycle to talk about him?) Trump will probably get re-elected, but if the Republicans don't wise up and start accepting that they are in a polarised political world and act accordingly, then as demonstrated by these midterms, Trump doing rally blitzes all over the country won't save them.

[ChicagoFire]

Amen. I agree with the post that it's a bad sign the globalists vastly outspent the MAGA movement, blowing their wad, but they still got the first down from 4th and inches. Money will unfortunately be unlimited for scum like that. Are some people just not worth saving? At least the Trust the Plan Q anon crew theory can hopefully settle down and reanalyze their crazy John Nash-like quantum physics reasoning. Hint: Psyops!!!

I'm struggling here and I can't post on this forum all day long and have to tend to my own problems. Not exactly end of the world where the Trump admin will get bogged down with fruitless investigations but the populist agenda isn't going to keep moving forward since the House will need to cooperate (unlikely). I really hope Trump gets our wall up and other MAGA friendly items passed but until then I'd just have to stack up on money and focus on my own affairs. Just googling "midterm election results" and one of the news results being "Democrats seize control of House, power to investigate President Trump" is fucking ridiculous. How about we will provide higher paying jobs? Close the fucking border? My god anybody who claims the Democrat party cares about the everyday Joe 6 pack needs to commit himself to the insane asylum.

Wow, nice post Paracelsus couldn't have said it any better. Speaking as a certain member of a minority group the left doesn't care about diversity at all. Not to give myself away but you just will have to take my experience for what it's worth. There really aren't any Never-Clintons or Never Obamas they will simply not voice their opinions and conduct mental gymnastics. Hillary Clinton being pro women and not denouncing Islam is the biggest joke I've ever heard.

(11-07-2018 12:10 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  

But when I look around now, I realize we are on borrowed time.

Sheep gone sheep. I live in MA, one of the only states where white men vote blue as a majority (displayed in the chart above). I look around at the people here, the soy chugging faggots aren't worth saving, the others are broken. It's a lost cause.

I don't expect another miracle to happen. Prey for peace, be prepared for violence.

[Libertas]

(11-07-2018 08:19 AM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  

Amen. I agree with the post that it's a bad sign the globalists vastly outspent the MAGA movement, blowing their wad, but they still got the first down from 4th and inches.

The thing to take note here is how bad the results have been for that money spent. They got crushed in the Senate and state level in general and only just barely retook the House. They needed 23 and they're at +28 now I think. They'll probably get a few more but that's it.

Remember that Clinton lost 52 seats in 1994, Bush lost 30 in 2006, and Obama lost 63 in 2010. Either way you dice it, Trump is losing far less than that, and he's gained a good number of seats in the Senate.

This was hardly a "blue wave." For all that money spent, you'd think they'd want better results.

It's as I said in 2016, big money is losing power. Persuasion and social media branding is going to be what matters most in the future, but that of course presents problems because of these tech monopolies and their algorithms. See Scott Adams on this when he talks about Trump being "the last human president."

[CynicalContrarian]

(11-07-2018 08:18 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

Don't count on it... Trump doing rally blitzes all over the country won't save them.

While I readily agree that GOP candidates need to rapidly update their playbooks & be far more savvy as Trump is. John James, I'm looking at you.
& I understand your overall premise about the left having the Soycialist dystopia as the end goal in mind.
There are still certain matters that could cause quite a ruckus among the Democrat Congress.

Take Israel for example. Personally I'm not all that fussed about Israel one way or the other, yet if you have the likes of Ilhan Omar actively deriding & dismissing Israel while other more old school & established Democrats are reliant on Jewish backing / funding..., it could be a small spanner in the works.
Then you have matters where Ocasio-Cortez was reluctant to acknowledge Pelosi as the ideal speaker / leader of the house.
After-all, we all know chicks are never envious & work so well together...

They could all readily rally around the cause of "orange man bad", yet that is hardly a meaningful or constructive agenda.

[Bullboy]

Amazing thread fellas. I believe what we are witnessing in Trump is the last stand of masculine power and energy in the United States. After Trump The Democrats will be in charge. Most definitely with a woman or a minority and possibly both. I feel it’s an unstoppable train that the right cannot stop. It comes to a simple question of numbers. They are too many and their demographics are growing whilst ours are dying. Recruiting sheep to vote Democrat is easy it’s a lazy ideology. Being a libertarian or even conservative takes guts, intelligence and a desire to understand how the world really works. You look at states like Texas and Florida. Important states for republicans. See how tight those senate races were? These places are changing at a rate that I don’t think we fully comprehend. In 6-10 years those 2 states will be definitively blue. Young people and minority’s are moving to Texas by the boatload from the democratic coastal states and Florida is increasingly becoming younger as the older generation start to die off. Over a 100 women have been elected in this new cycle including the first Muslims to hold seats in congress. It’s only a matter of time before this place will be unrecognisable to what it is now. And not for the better.

[ChicagoFire]

^^@CC

Fair point re: They could all readily rally around the cause of "orange man bad", yet that is hardly a meaningful or constructive agenda.

The left is still caught in the old guard versus new guard paradigm. Populism is rising, whether or not it's right or left. The left will have to contribute something outside of orange man bad.

Not exactly end of the world but the right needs to level up and unite behind Trump. Kick out the Bill Kristols (DEPORT) and Glenn Becks of the party and we'll be in shape for 2020. Hope Cernovich is right that we'll have some John James' unapologetic conservatives ready for 2020.

[Roosh]

Demographic voting chart:

   

[MOVSM]

So the black support for Trump at 40% was another lark... There is no blexit, no walk away, all are still firmly on dem plantation.

[CynicalContrarian]

That poorer folk tend to vote Democrat I would equate to welfare dependent folk.
That unmarried women tend to vote Democrat, I would also equate to 'welfare dependence'. Whether pensions or alimony.

Also explains why they make such a fuss over "It's OK to be white" & why they encourage illegal 5th columnists.

(11-07-2018 09:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

So the black support for Trump at 40% was another lark...

Depends on whether that 40% was active voters or only prospective voters.

[heavy]

First Somali-American congresswoman:

[url=https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/269488770066313216][/url]

Congratulations Minnesota

[Barron]

(11-07-2018 09:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

So the black support for Trump at 40% was another lark... There is no blexit, no walk away, all are still firmly on dem plantation.

You're conflating support for Trump with voting Republican in the mid-terms.
One does not equal the other

[CynicalContrarian]

Re: Ilhan Omar.
Like I say, doubtful she's going to project an old school Democrat message all day, every day.

Otherwise on the GOP side.
Even CBS notes that they are more galvanized around Trump :

[url=https://twitter.com/NorahODonnell/status/1060044694753869824][/url]

[Player_1337]

Was the voter turnout low? I was shocked by the lower than expected turnout for the 2016 presidential election.

[Libertas]

(11-07-2018 09:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Demographic voting chart:

The married voter number is surprising. I suppose this is nationwide and not by state, which is what matters.

(11-07-2018 09:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

So the black support for Trump at 40% was another lark... There is no blexit, no walk away, all are still firmly on dem plantation.

I think 8% voted for Trump in 2016, so this would be a marginal improvement.

It's going to take some time.

[GlobalMan]

[url=https://twitter.com/ThePatriot006/status/1060038048086294528?s=20][/url]

Barry Zero doesn't have the pull that people want you to believe he does.

On the other hand our T is directly responsible for multiple victories. He is really truly something else.

As far as the results, in practical terms not much is going to change. Congress was useless when we had it all and it will simply remain so. There will be some more useless investigations that go nowhere, some grandstanding, and that's about it- the Dems are as powerless as they were before. The real action happens in the Senate.

Now that we know that there will be no legislation passed for sure, using the DOJ is going to be more important than ever. Even though he is good on some things, I think Sessions' time is just about up. I think Trump will replace him as soon as the Mueller investigation is over, or even before that if it doesn't look to be wrapping up soon. The DOJ could have been a very powerful tool but it has been mostly wasted. We don't have any more time to lose, southern charm isn't going to cut it. Since Kris Kobach is available I think he would be the perfect candidate.

[ChicagoFire]

^^
More silver lining I guess re Obama. If the election has done anything it has separated the cucks from the men. Supposedly cucks didn't want Trump to campaign with them and would rather lose with dignity. Looks like 2 more years of gridlock followed by a 2020-2024 MAGA explosion.

Wild guess:

Kanye saw the internals and backed away. Other celebrities have taken note and will not be hopping on the Trump train anytime soon. 90% isn't exactly a blexit effect.

(11-07-2018 09:10 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

So the black support for Trump at 40% was another lark... There is no blexit, no walk away, all are still firmly on dem plantation.

[Libertas]

Obama is not the master persuader he was in 2008 or even 2012. He's lost his touch. Now he just sounds like an angry loon. The mask came off.

[Plus Oultre]

(11-07-2018 08:53 AM)Bullboy Wrote:  

Amazing thread fellas. I believe what we are witnessing in Trump is the last stand of masculine power and energy in the United States. After Trump The Democrats will be in charge. Most definitely with a woman or a minority and possibly both. I feel it’s an unstoppable train that the right cannot stop. It comes to a simple question of numbers. They are too many and their demographics are growing whilst ours are dying. Recruiting sheep to vote Democrat is easy it’s a lazy ideology. Being a libertarian or even conservative takes guts, intelligence and a desire to understand how the world really works. You look at states like Texas and Florida. Important states for republicans. See how tight those senate races were? These places are changing at a rate that I don’t think we fully comprehend. In 6-10 years those 2 states will be definitively blue. Young people and minority’s are moving to Texas by the boatload from the democratic coastal states and Florida is increasingly becoming younger as the older generation start to die off. Over a 100 women have been elected in this new cycle including the first Muslims to hold seats in congress. It’s only a matter of time before this place will be unrecognisable to what it is now. And not for the better.

I would't take such a simplistic look at this situation. Florida has been a swing state for decades. For every democrat transplant into the state, you get a conservative one; for each rich New Yorker voting in Boca Raton, you'll get a rural New Yorker transplant voting in rural Florida; for every Colombian leftist immigrating to Florida, you get a level headed Venezuelan who is running away from communist Chavism. You get the idea.

All in all, conservatives need to step up the ground game for 2020. You can't give up a day, in Florida.

[CynicalContrarian]

(11-07-2018 09:40 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

Obama is not the master persuader he was in 2008 or even 2012. He's lost his touch. Now he just sounds like an angry loon. The mask came off.

I think it was Anonymous Conservative (?) that posited that the Obama we saw from 2007 to 2015 was such a carefully managed & crafted show by the globalist crowd.
Controlled media, controlled narratives, controlled teleprompters, controlled politics.
That it should be of no surprise that he came across as seemingly viable as he did.

As we may have seen in the past month, left largely on is own. Even when being forced to endorse other candidates. He's an empty shell.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/

[N°6]

The result seems like a tie to me. A tie that cost more to the attacker. The Dems planned to take the hill, and with all that pre attack artillery fire and psyops, they didn’t get over the lower contours and Trump still has the high ground. He’s certainly not a lame duck president.

They even cut the communication wires before the attack.

Only a WW1 general would claim this big push a success.

[Libertas]

No, Obama was genuinely high on all persuasion factors. You can't just stage that. You can help it but can't spin it out of whole cloth. But then his mask came off and lost his touch. He moved too far to the left, breaking the rapport he'd previously established with his audience in the middle of the country.

[RedPillUK]

"We need to have relationships and children and be strong masculine men, but the idea that we not focus on our enemies is utterly insane.

Is this what happened when moors invaded Spain? Is this how they eventually freed themselves?. They thought for 800 years"

- David Duke

The most red pilled thing I've ever seen on youtube is the last hour and a half of this election stream last night. You need to watch it before they remove it.

[Aurini]

The ultimate question I'm looking at is this: when does the brown wave crash, turning America into a second world nation?

Right now, it's set to hit in 2024. That's when Texas goes Blue. But with the right policies, we could forestall it until 2044. That would give us time to build alternate structures that will survive.

What we need to see in the next 6 years:

-Build the wall
-End chain migration
-Voter ID laws
-End to voter corruption (the dead, and multiple-voters)
-Preservation of Free Speech online
-Basic economic sustainability (checkmark on this one)

If these things haven't changed by 2024, put a fork in her.

[MOVSM]

You forgot the most important one--education. Education must be wrestled away from the left. It is the single most effective brainwashing institution for the left.