[scotian]

CC where in Canada are you?

[Jungle]

(10-11-2017 06:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

it's really crazy to see how much location matters when picking up girls.

Up is down, down is up.

Guys are timid to make moves for a rightful fear of being ostracized.

I agree with you 1,000 per cent. I think this phenomenon of "SMV location difference" is part of why RVF has such a cult following... because once a man has experience in being in so many different countries and seeing how different he is treated by women compared to his homeland, then we learn one crucial lesson of the red pill. I would even make the claim that it's almost impossible for a western man to realistically take the red pill without spending a decent amount of time abroad and fully experiencing just how much his SMV changes due to location.

Each year I spend 6 months in the west and 6 months overseas so I know empathise with what you're going through... and I will add an optimistic perspective... I agree with you that all three options of daygame, nightgame and online game are much worse in Canada than abroad... Your ROI will be much worse... This is unanimously agreed.

You must remember that although culture plays a roll, there's also a huge component of SMV which is simply economy-related. Frankly, Canada is a wealthy country. Most men are middle class, therefore you won't be of high value in Canada unless you're in that upper echelon.

Ok, so now onto the solution...

In the west to achieve good results it's all about "niche game"... find some sort of niche where you can meet plentiful birds (incidentally through work for example) and you already have your foot in the door so-to-speak. For me I have a great niche that allows me to meet heaps of foreign birds and I quite enjoy my time in the west.

Yes the women in the west are much more awful per capita (due to obesity epidemic, culture, socialism, marxism, feminism, pop culture etc etc) however there is goldmine of hotties for guys in the west who are status / wealthy / have a niche etc. The problem is that (by definition) is it quite difficult to get into the "elite" or a high social status in a developed country, because it literally requires so much money and competition compared to developing countries.

(10-11-2017 06:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

There's an underlying sense that the women hold all the cards whereas in Eastern Europe it was the reverse.

Agreed. I will add one more thing though. How old are you?

One thing I noticed is that in the west at around 28 years of age onwards there was a "tipping point" where the scales tipped back towards in favour of men. Between 18-25 particularly, in the west it's completely gynocentric, but after that it's much greener pastures for men. This is partly due to the fact that not only are men more confident and financially successful, but also women's SMV starts declining and they get their first dose of the red pill and reality.

[yankeetravels]

I've heard the theory spun around by users on this forum that if you can't get laid in your home country, you can't game abroad. I call absolute bullshit on that and agree with the OP.

I've been to a few countries in Asia of all different economic status with mainly Taiwan and the Philippines. I had immediate success in both countries which would take me years to replicate in the USA. I'm 23 years old and over 80% of the women I've had sex with have resided in an Asian country.

Obvious reasons have been thrown around here for this such as rape culture and feminism in the west growing at an alarming rate. Obesity has been tossed around too and I'll admit it can be bad in the US compared to Taiwan and Japan, I noticed obesity in the Philippines too and it's still highly regarded for good reason so it's not just that. The attitude is more of the problem.

The simple truth is, women have the upper hand in the west for relationships and marriage. They're so afraid of us "raping" them that you now get shamed just for talking to a girl in the street, restaurant or bar unless your game is very tight, you're social proof, or have high SMV.

I'll admit on the guy's side, another truth we have to face is that SMV is different unless you're Brad Pitt. It's tougher to stand out in the US or Canada simply because there are a lot of guys who are economically successful, are a little better at game, and may all work out. The simple truth is it's very competitive because for the most part, we are not rich or unique in our own countries, and despite what we spit around here about male feminists and betas which are undeniably out there, it's not enough to eliminate your actual competition since it only takes 20% of men in the prime age group to have more to offer than you. Not to get nationalistic on this point, but being a top 20% guy in the West is the equivalent of having to be a top 3% guy in the world if you look at the global GDP. I don't think people realize how difficult this can be.

I'm not making any excuses for us, because we are all smart enough to be aware of this, and it's up to us to spread information for each other and figure out our own ways to get our SMV up. But, the undeniable conclusion I have come to is that there is no easier way to get your SMV up than going to a poorer country. Just imagine if you're an average American girl that gets approached by a guy that drives a Mercedes and has a house worth a few million dollars. That's how I felt the Filipinas were looking at guys like me because we just go in their country and get set up comfortably quickly and easily.

Also, still using the Philippines as an example, Americans are much taller than the local males, so physical attraction tends to go our way too. If you're white, northern Asian, or American-Asian, forget about it. You can walk in, pretty much do the same thing you would do at home, and you will get results. Now, you won't get the top 5% girls and won't get every single one to come with you just because you're a foreigner, but the door is undeniably wide open compared to just a crack open in the West.

The red pill in all of this is that the combination of value, money, and game/frame are everything. If you find a way to get passive or remote income in places like SEA or Latin America, there is just no denying there are more girl opportunities for the Western male.

When I realized this, it was funny to me that girls thought all of the girls in these parts were just hookers and we were nothing but Johns or wanted girls we could control. When the truth is, we just want decent girls we actually have an open chance with and are open to getting involved with us, period.

I'll drop the mic on my 100th post.

[EndsExpect]

(10-12-2017 06:39 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Feminists are fat / unattractive by definition. That's why they're feminists in the first place....and you're the one the engages with them, not me.

What do you call these girls?

[Travel Museums]

^paid models? Ok maybe not. But that’s your top 0.00001% of feminists right there.

[EndsExpect]

(10-12-2017 10:45 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

^paid models? Ok maybe not. But that’s your top 0.00001% of feminists right there.

65% of ALL American Women under 35 identify as either a Feminist or a Strong Feminist. They are not all fat and ugly. Just a few months ago I was pounding this mid 20's feminist whos last job was working for Bernie Sanders. She had a nice face, flat stomach, and DD tits.

Good chance you fuck feminists all the time and just don't realize it.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

(10-12-2017 08:57 PM)scotian Wrote:  

CC where in Canada are you?

In Calgary dude, getting back in the oil biz so I can get the fuck outta here again!

[Travel Museums]

I love women. Am I a feminist? I honestly don’t really understand what being a feminist means. I thought it meant you’re from the 1970s.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

(10-12-2017 11:01 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 10:45 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

^paid models? Ok maybe not. But that’s your top 0.00001% of feminists right there.

65% of ALL American Women under 35 identify as either a Feminist or a Strong Feminist. They are not all fat and ugly. Just a few months ago I was pounding this mid 20's feminist whos last job was working for Bernie Sanders. She had a nice face, flat stomach, and DD tits.

Good chance you fuck feminists all the time and just don't realize it.

Those are standard attention whores looking for an excuse to show off their tits.

You like to fuck snarky (hot? lol) feminists and I don't. Congrats. You do you but it's blatantly obvious for anyone with two eye balls what your typical feminist looks like. Not sure why you're trying to make a case for them.

[EndsExpect]

(10-12-2017 11:08 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Those are standard attention whores looking for an excuse to show off their tits.
You like to fuck snarky (hot? lol) feminists and I don't. Congrats. You do you but it's blatantly obvious for anyone with two eye balls what your typical feminist looks like. Not sure why you're trying to make a case for them.

Ive never been to Calgary, so I have no idea what you are looking at. Come to Seattle and you will find lots of good looking feminists. Listening to them is like nails on a chalkboard, and they shit test constantly, but at least 50% pass a boner test.

I only bring it up because I think this is an easy demographic to tap. It's maybe not worth it where you live.

[Merengues]

(10-12-2017 09:09 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  

There's a saying that if you can't get laid at home, you won't get laid abroad, which is half BS if you ask me.

Once a guy has basic social skills + a tiny bit of game, location becomes extremely important.

I'm also back in the anglosphere and I too find myself hitting up girls from Poland or Russia who I'd barely notice in their respective countries.

I don't know much about Canada, but at least in the UK girls like to drink and get a bit crazy when they go out. ONSs are also more likely, which is not a bad change after Russia although you barely see any guys dating up like in EE.

It doesn't really bother me cause I know sooner or later I'll be back in EE.

If I were you, I'd just work on a plan to GTFO and move back to any of those better places you've mentioned.

I absolutely agree with Gopnik. As it is known on the forum Polish guys doesn't usually have game. I was one of them.

Before coming for a semester in Mexico, I was blissfully ignorant chump in LTR with a sweet Polish girl. One month after landing in taco land I experienced more IOIs than in my whole life in Europe. I soon realized that I had plenty of options. Meanwhile I found Roosh. Next half a year in Colombia was even better. Obviously, I didn't bang any top quality, but I was happy collecting notches, getting rid of oneitis and enjoying different culture.

After coming back to a tiny feminist shithole in Western Europe for a couple of months, my confidence plummeted. Seeing big, muscled, unpleasant women didn't encourage me to do anything.

Now living in Spain, I think it is a quite good place. Old world charm, beatiful weather, deliscious food, plenty to do and see, people have fun. I speak the language so that helps. Seems like a perfect place to settle down. No wonder why there is so many British pensioners here. But that's the thing. Pensioners. Combination of lazy vibe, predictability, safety, environment that does not encourage real growth and stagnant economy doesn't make this country a suitable option for young people who have energy and desire to acheive more in terms of career, money and women (it kinda refers to the Western Europe in general). Besides, girls are hardly a prize and a tough nut to crack. The city I live in is rather small and social circle oriented so I'm getting paranoid wheather it's a good idea to start learning day game here.

Hopefully, it doesn't sound too much like Baldrich lol. Meanwhile, I focus on self-improvement, game in hard mode on and figuring out ways to GTFO to either Latin America or Asia.

[azulsombra]

(10-13-2017 03:35 AM)Merengues Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 09:09 AM)Gopnik Wrote:  

There's a saying that if you can't get laid at home, you won't get laid abroad, which is half BS if you ask me.

Once a guy has basic social skills + a tiny bit of game, location becomes extremely important.

I'm also back in the anglosphere and I too find myself hitting up girls from Poland or Russia who I'd barely notice in their respective countries.

I don't know much about Canada, but at least in the UK girls like to drink and get a bit crazy when they go out. ONSs are also more likely, which is not a bad change after Russia although you barely see any guys dating up like in EE.

It doesn't really bother me cause I know sooner or later I'll be back in EE.

If I were you, I'd just work on a plan to GTFO and move back to any of those better places you've mentioned.

I absolutely agree with Gopnik. As it is known on the forum Polish guys doesn't usually have game. I was one of them.

Before coming for a semester in Mexico, I was blissfully ignorant chump in LTR with a sweet Polish girl. One month after landing in taco land I experienced more IOIs than in my whole life in Europe. I soon realized that I had plenty of options. Meanwhile I found Roosh. Next half a year in Colombia was even better. Obviously, I didn't bang any top quality, but I was happy collecting notches, getting rid of oneitis and enjoying different culture.

After coming back to a tiny feminist shithole in Western Europe for a couple of months, my confidence plummeted. Seeing big, muscled, unpleasant women didn't encourage me to do anything.

Now living in Spain, I think it is a quite good place. Old world charm, beatiful weather, deliscious food, plenty to do and see, people have fun. I speak the language so that helps. Seems like a perfect place to settle down. No wonder why there is so many British pensioners here. But that's the thing. Pensioners. Combination of lazy vibe, predictability, safety, environment that does not encourage real growth and stagnant economy doesn't make this country a suitable option for young people who have energy and desire to acheive more in terms of career, money and women (it kinda refers to the Western Europe in general). Besides, girls are hardly a prize and a tough nut to crack. The city I live in is rather small and social circle oriented so I'm getting paranoid wheather it's a good idea to start learning day game here.

Hopefully, it doesn't sound too much like Baldrich lol. Meanwhile, I focus on self-improvement, game in hard mode on and figuring out ways to GTFO to either Latin America or Asia.

No, it sounds nothing like Baldrich.
He seemed to have a very personal vendetta there that clouded his perspective.

You presented the good and the bad as you see it. Nothing wrong with that, realistic criticism of countries/cities is highly valued here.

[Naughty_Boy]

Just returned from a 2 week trip in Poland. Although half of the Forum describes it as "difficult" or becoming worse, for me it was 10 times better than in Hamburg (Germany) in every aspect with regards to women.

I definetly have strong PSAD: thread-46927.html

Now I walk through Hamburg and see mainly overweight girls, left wing women that dress like a male homeless (no joke), blue/red/skrillrex haircuts, earplugs and huge disgusting tatoos on women plus men that also go for the dress like a ungroomed homeless look. On my way to work I see 2 girls per week that would be worth approaching, but then I remind myself of their shitty and unfriendly attitude. No wonder guys go here nuts if they see an 8.

In Poland I would just go out to the grocery store 5 min from the apartment and see 3 girls worth approaching. Here and there slim women with long hair, high heels, painted fingernails and a skirt. In Hamburg a woman that wears a skirt or has painted fingernails is like seeing a fucking unicorn. Even older women take care of themselves and I saw tons of Milfs which do not exist in Hamburg.

There is almost none feminine energy in German women. I need to get out ASAP

Already booked a new flight to Poland for the weekend

[nomadbrah]

(10-12-2017 04:04 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 06:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

White guys here seem to be dating asian girls out of a lack of white girl options. It really is bizarro world out here. Up is down, down is up.

It's not a lack of white girl options. It's a combination of:

1) Being intimidated by white girls, Asian girls being more "boyish" and more passive at the same time.

2) Asian fetish promoted by anime.

Written by a white girl?

[The Stronger Sex]

(10-13-2017 05:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 04:04 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 06:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

White guys here seem to be dating asian girls out of a lack of white girl options. It really is bizarro world out here. Up is down, down is up.

It's not a lack of white girl options. It's a combination of:

1) Being intimidated by white girls, Asian girls being more "boyish" and more passive at the same time.

2) Asian fetish promoted by anime.

Written by a white girl?

Written by a white guy. Not all of us are full on into the Asian fetish.

Countless times I've seen cucks say about tall, hot, feminine white, Latina or black women submissive stuff like "Wow, I bet she would destroy me in bed". On the other hand I've never seen a guy intimidated by an Asian girl.

[nomadbrah]

(10-13-2017 05:23 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 05:05 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 04:04 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 06:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

White guys here seem to be dating asian girls out of a lack of white girl options. It really is bizarro world out here. Up is down, down is up.

It's not a lack of white girl options. It's a combination of:

1) Being intimidated by white girls, Asian girls being more "boyish" and more passive at the same time.

2) Asian fetish promoted by anime.

Written by a white girl?

Written by a white guy. Not all of us are full on into the Asian fetish.

Countless times I've seen cucks say about tall, hot, feminine white, Latina or black women submissive stuff like "Wow, I bet she would destroy me in bed". On the other hand I've never seen a guy intimidated by an Asian girl.

I've never heard that.

I do agree some Western countries are like those insect species where the female is larger than the male and devours him after mating.

[Sky_Is_The_Limit]

(10-13-2017 04:28 AM)Naughty_Boy Wrote:  

Just returned from a 2 week trip in Poland. Although half of the Forum describes it as "difficult" or becoming worse, for me it was 10 times better than in Hamburg (Germany) in every aspect with regards to women.

I definetly have strong PSAD: thread-46927.html

Now I walk through Hamburg and see mainly overweight girls, left wing women that dress like a male homeless (no joke), blue/red/skrillrex haircuts, earplugs and huge disgusting tatoos on women plus men that also go for the dress like a ungroomed homeless look. On my way to work I see 2 girls per week that would be worth approaching, but then I remind myself of their shitty and unfriendly attitude. No wonder guys go here nuts if they see an 8.

In Poland I would just go out to the grocery store 5 min from the apartment and see 3 girls worth approaching. Here and there slim women with long hair, high heels, painted fingernails and a skirt. In Hamburg a woman that wears a skirt or has painted fingernails is like seeing a fucking unicorn. Even older women take care of themselves and I saw tons of Milfs which do not exist in Hamburg.

There is almost none feminine energy in German women. I need to get out ASAP

Already booked a new flight to Poland for the weekend

As a fellow German, I can feel your pain. It's even worse in Berlin, believe me. I've spent so much time blaming myself for not getting the best/most attractive women. But now I realize there aren't that many, and as you said, the ones who are hot have a shitty attitude. The rejections of German women can be pretty painful, and sometimes fatal for beginners (because they get discouraged).

I'll be in Ukraine in November for the very fist time. It doesn't matter if I get laid or not - I just want to feel that feminine energy and be surrounded by beautiful women. Been in Poland a couple of times, and it's already a different world compared to Germany.

[scrambled]

(10-13-2017 06:39 AM)Sky_Is_The_Limit Wrote:  

I've spent so much time blaming myself for not getting the best/most attractive women. But now I realize there aren't that many, and as you said, the ones who are hot have a shitty attitude.

Sounds like USA, horrible ratio and ego inflation.

[scrambled]

(10-13-2017 05:23 AM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

Countless times I've seen cucks say about tall, hot, feminine white, Latina or black women submissive stuff like "Wow, I bet she would destroy me in bed".

All your cuck friends, huh? No one says that out loud, and probably no man even thinks that.

[eck]

(10-13-2017 03:35 AM)Merengues Wrote:  

The city I live in is rather small and social circle oriented so I'm getting paranoid wheather it's a good idea to start learning day game here.

You'd better don't do it, it would mean your death in the social arena. Daygame is wierd in itself, and in little cities of Spain x1000 more wierd. Want to learn that? Go to Madrid, or better Barcelona as it is full of foreigners, but beware, you can be fustrated quite easily.

[Selembao]

(10-12-2017 10:21 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 06:39 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Feminists are fat / unattractive by definition. That's why they're feminists in the first place....and you're the one the engages with them, not me.

What do you call these girls?

Ukrainian leftover women.

[soltopia]

The irony is that Canadian chicks are easy when they are overseas, particularly the chubby ones!

[This Is Trouble]

(10-12-2017 10:21 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 06:39 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Feminists are fat / unattractive by definition. That's why they're feminists in the first place....and you're the one the engages with them, not me.

What do you call these girls?

Morons.

[lookslikeit]

(10-12-2017 02:23 AM)This Is Trouble Wrote:  

The question is how long it'll be before you're back on a plane...

Bad decision. I'm working my ass to move "definitely" to Thailand. I do agree with the OP. The location does "wonders" and experienced that first hand spending a couple months in SEA and Thailand.

[lookslikeit]

(10-12-2017 10:21 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-12-2017 06:39 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Feminists are fat / unattractive by definition. That's why they're feminists in the first place....and you're the one the engages with them, not me.

What do you call these girls?

The hot girls are actually hired and paid by Femen. They are not necessarily a "feminist". They are doing it for money. Though one can argue it is a shitty deal in the end.