[BoiBoi]

Man, just drop the salami, bacon and hamburgers and replace it with salad (no mayo) + steak or grilled chicken/fish. Do it for a month and see what happens. This stuff isn't rocket science.

[churros]

On a tangent, is ground beef really that bad? I make a point to buy the best stuff I can. Sometimes I use it to make hamburgers, but more often chilli because it freezes so well. Is there something about the cut that you guys are suspicious of? Don't think there's any pink slime in the stuff I get.

[aeroektar]

I buy the organic grass fed beef with no antibiotics or hormones added shit, I think the only way you could argue against that is if you were an anti red meat person, which few here are. From everything I've read grass fed beef is a very healthy choice, especially for active men.

[General Stalin]

I'm confused.

Rex, did you create this thread to listen to help/advice from others or just talk at people and argue?

[Steelex]

(07-19-2017 10:31 AM)churros Wrote:  

On a tangent, is ground beef really that bad? I make a point to buy the best stuff I can. Sometimes I use it to make hamburgers, but more often chilli because it freezes so well. Is there something about the cut that you guys are suspicious of? Don't think there's any pink slime in the stuff I get.

Ground beef is just beef ground up.

If it's bad, so is beef. But beef is good.

And it's what's for dinner.

[weambulance]

If you're worried about what's in pre-ground beef packs from the store just get a meat grinder and grind up some chuck. A grinder isn't that expensive and it's not difficult to use. Or get a butcher to grind exactly what you want. The meat department at a decent grocery store might do that, I dunno, I've never asked.

[RexImperator]

Quote:

Rex, did you create this thread to listen to help/advice?

Yes, I started on a stricter diet at the end of June. I will be making adjustments as I go.

Maybe if the thread was titled "Rex's diet, weight loss, and fitness thread" it would have been better. The title is a bit dramatic, I'll admit that. It's 100% true though- I look better, compared to four years ago, but still shitty. Things won't really improve until I start to get below 16% body fat, which I probably haven't been in over twenty years.

There's been a bunch of stuff I have posted that gets misunderstood. And when I try to explain, it just seems to just make it worse.

I buy my ground beef fresh from a supermarket that grinds it in the store. It's ground up steak and chuck, etc. No "slime". The beef that people get E.Coli illness from is almost always ground in large processing plants and frozen.

[General Stalin]

Well losing weight is as simple as eating less than your body needs so your body is forced to consume it's own fat stores to convert it to energy. As long as you are eating in a caloric deficit and you aren't eating garbage and a lot of simple carbs that get quickly stored as fat then you should be good. Be strict about your diet and monitor your progress is all. If progress is stalls then make some tweaks.

[Giovonny]

Low quality meat is blue pill. Eating it shows a lack of awareness and care.

Red pilled men should be eating high quality meats in accordance with their specific body chemistry.

Eating meat should make our bodies look and feel better, not worse..

It's about Quality and Moderation.

(07-19-2017 10:31 AM)churros Wrote:  

is ground beef really that bad?

It all depends..

High quality, fresh, organic, grass-fed, ground beef is great.

Low quality, artificial, chemical filled, preservative laden ground beef is poison that will make you obese and sick.

Google "pink slime" -- much of the cheap mass produced ground beef in stores contains this crap.

(07-19-2017 01:27 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I buy my ground beef fresh from a supermarket

What about those 5 Guys Burgers that you eat once or twice a week?

I've seen your diet before. You can't fool me or lie to me... I know that most of the meat you eat is LOW QUALITY.

That is what is making you fat.

And, I suspect that girls are turned off by the smell of dead animals decomposing in your body! Seriously! People who eat cheap meat smell like shit!

(07-19-2017 01:27 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I started on a stricter diet at the end of June.

Wait?!?!?

So, before June 2017 your diet was even worse ?!??

What the hell have you been eating for the past 20 years?

Oh wait, I've seen your diet.. It's the typical fat guy diet, everything processed, lots of junk, low quality, artificial fillers, preservatives, very little fresh produce, low nutrient density, lots of empty calories...

Of course, that is exactly how people become obese.

You need help man!

Yet, you refuse to get help!

You won't admit that YOU AND YOUR MIND FRAME ARE THE PROBLEM. It's always something or someone elses fault.

You've never talked to a nutritionist or dietary professional.

WHAT ARE THE RESULTS OF YOUR STRATEGY AND ATTITUDE?

- obesity

- sexual frustration

Those are YOUR RESULTS!!! YOUR STRATEGY AND GAME PLAN.

You will die fat and lonely unless you make a mental change. (or move to asia like thegreenman did)

[RexImperator]

Quote:

5 Guys Burgers that you eat once or twice a week?

I don't eat at Five Guys. I go to a much better high quality local burger joint, but I use those entries in MyFitnessPal for tracking my calories etc. as they are close enough (roughly equivalent) in macros.

[Giovonny]

(07-19-2017 02:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I don't eat at Five Guys. I go to a much better high quality local burger joint

What's the name of your burger joint?

Just for my own curiosity, I'm going to research the quality of their meat.

Feel free to pm me.

How often do you eat burgers from there?

[Giovonny]

(07-17-2017 02:49 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Giovonny,

That actually looks like a fairly solid diet to me (Which is why I'm skeptical that he's actually doing it.)

Can you explain what you would change?

I would change it to this:

Breakfast -- Vegetable omelette, oatmeal, fruit, protein shake

Lunch -- Grilled chicken, bean stew, vegetables

Snack -- mixed nuts, fruit

Dinner -- big salad, fish, rice and beans, vegetables, cauliflower, broccoli, soup, stew, chili

THIS IS JUST A ROUGH EXAMPLE. I WOULD CHANGE UP THE DIET EVERY 3 DAYS TO KEEP IT FRESH AND FUN.

Here's another one off the top of my head, for people who need meat:

Breakfast -- eggs, turkey bacon, potatoes, avocado, salsa, cornbread

Snack -- fruit, protein shake

Lunch -- chicken in tomato broth, brown rice, stir fried vegetables

Dinner -- Steak, salad

--

Here is what I've been eating lately:

Breakfast -- 2 handfuls of mixed nuts, 2 peaches, black tea

Brunch -- 5 scrambled eggs with a little cheese, 2 almond flour/ oat flour pancakes with berries

Lunch -- Spanish rice and beans with grilled meat and salad

Dinner -- Asian style rice and veggies (meat optional)

OR

Breakfast -- protein shake of rice milk. frozen banana, peanut butter, raw oatmeal, organic protein, yougurt

Brunch -- mixed nuts, dried fruit

Lunch -- Asian chicken and rice with salad

Dinner -- scrambled eggs, avocado, corn tortilla + mashed yams

[Truth Teller]

I defer to Gio here (he's way smarter about dieting than I am), but here's what John Kuc did to go from 330 to 242:

Lose Weight Diet - used to reduce from 330 to 242
Breakfast - 4 eggs, throw out 2 yolks, pint skim milk, 1 apple, 1 banana, pint water
Lunch - 8 oz. ground beef, pint skim milk, apple, banana, pint water
Dinner - 4 oz. chicken or beef, 8 oz. fresh or frozen vegetables, apple, pint water
Night time meal - 10g protein supplement, pint skim milk, apple, pint water
2000 calories, 160g protein


If you think Kuc was some weakling, he wasn't. He did a 870 DL AFTER losing the weight.

[Thomas Jackson]

Diet doesn't look terrible, but are the calories consistent? How often are you cheating on that? I agree you should add more veggies though. If you are fat your insulin sensitivity sucks so keeping carbs lowish is a good idea. Drinking 2 beers a night is pointless that's any easy thing to cut out. A couple beers every day adds up.

I think increasing activity levels is needed. Incline walking on the treadmill for 30-45 minutes 3-5 days a week is low impact and relatively easy to do.

[Stallion]

Maybe those burgers are the best quality burgers in the planet, with the best meat and magical superingredients in them.

Yet, you have been eating them and it doesn't work for you. Why not trying to get suspicious stuff out of your diet for a couple of months and see if it makes a difference? That would be the scientific approach.

The fat guy approach is to say... something is not working, but I track it on my fitness pal, so I guess I'm making an effort.



Also... don't underestimate the calories in stuff like ketchup... just a tablespoon is absolutely packed.




I agree that the lack of veggies is worrying. The easy solution would be to get a juicer and add a green juice of 3-4 veggies per day. Once you discover the recipes that you like it will take no effort (actually you will find yourself looking forward to your daily juice).

[sonoran_]

      

Ive been lifting for many years and I got from 125 to 160 lbs with like a 1-2 years of work.

Ive been around 150 lbs for a while now.

Its frustrating to see some guy lift for like 2 months and have better looking arms than me, especially from a side angle.
I can blame my arms not growing properly to that huge bicep gap where I can fit 4 bloody fingers into.

My shoulders also dont have depth cause my lateral and rear delts are like missing muscle where they connect to the clavicle. ( image in similar to the bicep gap but to the shoulder).

[Steelex]

That sucks.

It looks like your triceps are fairly long, you can focus on those.

Fwiw you'd be surprised how much your biceps fill in if you keep training and gaining weight.

[Fortis]

Guys,

Rex is trolling. I don't see why you guys can't see that. He has an excuse for every suggestion.

I recommend that you don't let him ragebait you. I know it feels good to attack someone who is obviously trolling. You get a sense of righteous fury.

He wants attention, plain and simple. It's a damn shame because he's a grown man who has a real problem that men like Gio have stepped up to help but Rex has an excuse for every recommendation, despite the fact that Gio is ripped as fuck. We even have a cutting master (bodybuilder) in this thread throwing out advice and still no dice from Rex. Let's all just step back.

This reminds me of when women have some stupid problem and want you to sit there and listen and not make a single suggestion unless you want to deal with their passive-aggressive jabs.

[RexImperator]

I'm losing weight, Fortis.

My pants are definitely feeling looser now.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to do much walking due to my foot injury.

[J_Sway]

(07-29-2017 08:57 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Guys,

Rex is trolling. I don't see why you guys can't see that. He has an excuse for every suggestion.

I recommend that you don't let him ragebait you. I know it feels good to attack someone who is obviously trolling. You get a sense of righteous fury.

He wants attention, plain and simple. It's a damn shame because he's a grown man who has a real problem that men like Gio have stepped up to help but Rex has an excuse for every recommendation, despite the fact that Gio is ripped as fuck. We even have a cutting master (bodybuilder) in this thread throwing out advice and still no dice from Rex. Let's all just step back.

This reminds me of when women have some stupid problem and want you to sit there and listen and not make a single suggestion unless you want to deal with their passive-aggressive jabs.

Reminds me of someone else we know. To his credit, at least he hasn't gone full sperg and started telling us how high his IQ and EQ are, and how everyone's brain damaged.

[Kieran]

Sonoran I have short biceps and long triceps too. My arms are at about 15 1/4 inches now at sub 10% body fat and while that's not particularly big, they look pretty decent compared to what I see around different gyms I've trained at because of the separation I have. Short biceps are harder to grow but can get that tennis ball look with a peak when you flex them. I'm hoping I can reach 15 1/2 under 10% bodyfat so focusing on weighted underhand chins and adding weight to my barbell curl (and of course triceps work).

[RexImperator]

An acquaintance who hasn't seen me in several years asked me today if I lift weights and said I looked bigger and stronger so that's encouraging.

[sonoran_]

Yea it just sucks when wearing a shirt/polo, cause the sleeves will usually end right below where my short bicep ends, giving of a "do you even lift" vibe.

Genetics is such a big factor in body enhancement and athletics.

Mine are 14 inch flexed but its stupid to measure cause if you see the picture, the triceps peak just where my biceps are kind of starting out.

Any other exercises that you like that are good for arms, other than chinups and barbell curls?

[Steelex]

It's a 3 inch muscle, it's gonna grow slowly because it's growth potential is limited.

However, if you think about how humans have been using their biceps, it's primarily in medium weight movements for many many reps. Stuff like rowing, pulling a rope, field work. It's gonna grow with resistance and bloodflow. I feel like short rest periods and relatively high reps trigger more growth. On days that I train biceps directly I typically do 3-4 sets for 12-16 reps with 1 or 2 minutes between sets. The last couple sets are taken to total failure.

What I can say is that I've found a preacher curl machine or cable curl done at an angle that keeps constant tension on the biceps is effective. Go slow on the negative and avoid the portions of the movement that takes the tension off the muscle.

You may have to go lighter than you do already but its all about keeping stress on the target muscle. Add weight slowly.

As an additional note, I think dumbell curls are overrated for direct biceps development. At the top of the movement a lot of the weight is sitting on top of the elbow via the forearm, and this really reduces the amount of tension. Sometimes the machines do a better job.

[Kieran]

Heavy rows probably help as well, but big strength gains in weighted chins and barbell curls should allow you to see improvements. I wouldn't worry too much about genetics because when you start getting towards your natural potential for growth you'll probably feel differently.