[MMX2010]

Tariq Nasheed, whom Excelsior defended as "having just as much right to be in this country as anyone else", tweeted the following in response to the Alexandria shooting.

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[kaotic]

(06-14-2017 04:23 PM)ziggystardust Wrote:  

I disagree. 'Paki' is literally used here as an abbreviation for pakistani. If couldn't care less if Paki's find it offensive or want to compare it with the historical connotations of the 'N-bomb', which is something I'd refrain from using in public or a forum.

Ziggy I'm Pakistani, former muslim, and yes it's an insult, just like coal burning, and using the word nigger.

Paki isn't not "just" an abbreviation, you know better, and tried to get away with here.

If you want to be taken seriously on this and not look like some autistic alt fag, I'd suggest not using those words.

I'm not one for censorship, but shit like that will eventually get you banned here and make you look stupid.

(06-14-2017 06:37 PM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  

Its just a word grow up.

Nah dude it's more than that, and that's not a thoughtful or constructive reply.


Enough with the race baiting.

Back to the real issue of radical islamic terrorism and how it's plaguing the UK.


Also, fuck Tariq Nasheed - let's see him say that when there's a gun firing at him and cops save his life.

[nomadbrah]

Paki isn't close to nigger.

Enough with the triggering and getting triggered though eh?

Edit: That goes for calling people racist AND calling someone paki

[nomadbrah]

(06-15-2017 03:52 AM)Diogenes Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:33 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote:

Wisdom is personified in the first eight chapters of the Book of Proverbs and is not only the source of virtue but is depicted as the first and best creation of God (Proverbs 8:12-31). Wisdom is also celebrated in the Book of Wisdom.[10]

Wisdom and intelligence aren't the same thing. Intelligence is a necessary but not sufficient condition for wisdom. I think a lot of today's problems are caused by people with high intelligence but no wisdom. Someone with high intelligence might follow a long chain of logical deductions to reach a conclusion whereas someone with wisdom would realise that one or more of the premises used were false. Someone with high intelligence might figure out, "If I do X and Y then Z will happen." Someone with wisdom would realise Z is a bad thing and so not do X or Y, whereas the person with only intelligence would pat himself on the back for being so clever while the world burns around him.

Nil sapientiae odiosius acumine nimio.

Yes, if you read about the greeks and Sophia (wisdom), it is wisdom to know what it is good, not just a wisdom concerned with practical things, which there were other words for: Episteme (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episteme), from which came epistomology and also Techne, knowledge of craft, how things work, Technology.

Wisdom for the greeks is therefore more along with Ethics or wisdom to know good character and how to live a life according to the principle of good.

Then there is Logos and Logic, which is the art of rational discourse.

It's quite obvious that today many intelligent people focus almost exclusively on Techne, Episteme and Logos, but forget Sophia. Which is what you said, but using Greek terminology.

[DamienCasanova]

SO let me get this straight...

Someone from Finland is a Finn

Someone from Scotland is a Scot

Someone from Sweden is a Swede

someone from Poland is a Pole

someone from Afghanistan is an Afghan

someone from Uzbekistan is an Uzbek

someone from Turkmenistan is a Turkmen

someone from Kazakhstan is a Kazakh

someone from Tajikistan is a Tajik

someone from Kyrgyzstan is a Kyrgyz

someone from Pakistan is a Paki....



OK, so it's a word like Jap now? "In the past, Jap was not considered primarily offensive; however, during and after the events of World War II, the term became derogatory."


This idea of "racism" is a purely communist/Marxist poisonous ideology designed to alienate people and destroy society.
Supposedly it came directly from Leon Trotsky, the proto-SJW

https://penetrate.blogspot.com/2010/01/r...-leon.html

"Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great. Mark remarked upon this theme: "In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them." This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the 'racists.'"

The Slavophiles which Trotsky alluded to were historically a group of traditionalist Slavs who valued greatly their native culture and way of life, and wanted to protect it. Trotsky on the other hand saw them and others like them as an impedement to his internationalist communist plans for the world. This man didn't care one iota about the Slavic Russians whom he supposedly served. To him, Slavophiles, i.e. Slavs that committed the "crime" of loving their own people and trying to protect their traditional ways were simply "backward", and others like them were simply "racists".

The reality of the word's origin is indeed quite a far cry from the left-liberal version of the story: that the word was coined in bona fides to identify people who were just plain bigoted against certain racial groups, and as a rallying cry for good liberals to protect the racial minorities from the bigots. On the contrary, the actual concept behind the word (even though he hadn't invented it quite yet) -- that ethnocentric "backwardness" must take a back seat to "enlightened" internationalism -- was often used by Army-Navy Commissar Trotsky as a rallying cry for good Red Army communists to embark upon murderous rampages against peoples who resisted having their traditional way of life paved over and replaced with an alien system.


"Racism" is a relatively new idea in the course of human history. It reminds me of something I read, about how the idea of racism didn't exist prominently in the modern vocabulary lexicon until WW2. After the holocaust, a legit instance of racism, (they) basically had to use a new word to describe what happened. But now the idea of racism has basically just become a tool for stratification as we all argue on what the PROPER term is for our gender/race/creed/religion, while the globalists divide and conquer us.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2017 12:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 06:37 PM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  

Its just a word grow up.

Nah dude it's more than that, and that's not a thoughtful or constructive reply.


Enough with the race baiting.

Back to the real issue of radical islamic terrorism and how it's plaguing the UK.


Also, fuck Tariq Nasheed - let's see him say that when there's a gun firing at him and cops save his life.

I think that it is alright as a courtesy not to use the n-word around blacks or Paki if that is used increasingly as an insult.

We should not forget that Pakistanis are almost identical to Indians safe for one important characteristic - Islam and the bloody history coming from it. Many of their ancestors had to convert for fear of murder.

Here a good interview with the Imam of Peace Tawhidi.

Contrary to most Muslims he clearly acknowledges the bloody history of Islam, the bloody history of most Muslim countries and the dysfunction coming when the religion rules over the land. He advocates for secularism, separation of church/mosque and state. He does not say it, but I am sure that if it were up to him, then he would be utterly ruthless against potential terrorists. He also pointed out that you cannot give the radicals any freedom of speech.

The freedom of speech does not extent to those who want to kill you.


I fully agree with him, albeit I think that he will either be killed one day or end up under constant police protection. Even living in Australia he is not safe. The only way to reform Islam is frankly by the barrel of a gun and such a guy like Tawhidi as the main state Imam who decides what is being said and taught in all mosques.

But of course we won't get that. The left will continue to sing the mantra of "Not all", the Muslims will keep on killing and pouring into the Western countries until one day we can have a full-on war or entire countries become Islamic Republics and then they find out what Islam truly thinks about feminism and LGBTQXYZ issues.

Meanwhile it would be better if we did not divide ourselves as artificially as the media and Western governments want us to.

[kaotic]

(06-15-2017 01:10 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

SO let me get this straight...

-snip-



OK

Different values and context bud, go up to a Brit whose Pakistani and call him a Paki. The context used here is in a negative derogatory way (as has been echoed by others) and for good reason (someone mentioned Rotterham).

In America Paki doesn't hold value, but I've never described myself as either.

I don't like being called Pakistani or Paki - I prefer the term American Patriot.


Zelco is about the convert or die claim.

I can only imagine if I walked away from Islam in an Islamic country - fuck that shit.

[DamienCasanova]

(06-15-2017 01:42 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Different values and context bud, go up to a Brit whose Pakistani and call him a Paki. The context used here is in a negative derogatory way (as has been echoed by others) and for good reason (someone mentioned Rotterham).

In America Paki doesn't hold value, but I've never described myself as either.

I don't like being called Pakistani or Paki - I prefer the term American Patriot.


Zelco is about the convert or die claim.

I can only imagine if I walked away from Islam in an Islamic country - fuck that shit.

OK I didn't realize it but I googled it and supposedly in the UK, Paki was a term derived from "Pikey", a slur against gypsies. I get how Paki's would not want to be slurred and compared to Gypsies, because Fuck Gypsies. Calling those thieving scumbags Pikeys seems way nicer than what they should be called...Lying Thieving Cunts.

No offense to you though my friend. *salute*

[iop890]

Since we're talking about bad words, I'm still allowed to call Asian girls riceballs right?

[DamienCasanova]

(06-15-2017 02:07 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Since we're talking about bad words, I'm still allowed to call Asian girls riceballs right?

Wouldn't those be Asian guys? Perhaps, Yellow Tail?

[debeguiled]

(06-15-2017 02:07 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Since we're talking about bad words, I'm still allowed to call Asian girls riceballs right?

No, but it is okay to call Japanese motorcycles "rice burners," as long as you are a Vietnam vet.

[kaotic]

(06-15-2017 02:38 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:07 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Since we're talking about bad words, I'm still allowed to call Asian girls riceballs right?

No, but it is okay to call Japanese motorcycles "rice burners," as long as you are a Vietnam vet.

We always called em crotch rockets, we called import imitation Harley's - Charlies.

Rice burners to us were Honda Civics with big fart can exhausts on the end of them.

[Kieran]

In the UK the word Paki isn't acceptable at all. Not on the same level as nigger, but not far off.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2017 02:56 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:38 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 02:07 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Since we're talking about bad words, I'm still allowed to call Asian girls riceballs right?

No, but it is okay to call Japanese motorcycles "rice burners," as long as you are a Vietnam vet.

We always called em crotch rockets, we called import imitation Harley's - Charlies.

Rice burners to us were Honda Civics with big fart can exhausts on the end of them.

The thing about calling friends racially loaded words is one thing. You may have black friends you call the n-word freely. Two guys I know are best buddies - one is an Afghani Muslim and the other a Serb. They call each other every insult in the book, but that is their special relationship where insults and women are shared. It comes with an underlying perception of humor - you would still risk your life for your friend.

Doing it in public or even semi-publicly here on the forum goes a bit too far.

The same goes for slapping your woman in the bedroom and calling her whore. She may even like it, but if you do it in public with a new acquaintance, then you will be deservedly in deep shit. (or you get laid faster, because women are women after all - men are different)

[Transsimian]

A Muslim deliberately ran over 5 people in Leicester, and the judge let him off with a reducible 5 years because he said he was too hungry to think during Ramadan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...e-men.html

[T and A Man]

In Australia, Paki remains short for Pakistani.

When the Pakistani cricket side is about to tour, the nine network will usually show ads promoting it with thundering shots to or over the boundary, spectacular outfield catches and close ups of high profile players, with the blurb reading..

The Pakis are coming, buy your tickets now.

It is really inexcusable for the Brits to culturally appropriate our word and change the meaning.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

A Muslim deliberately ran over 5 people in Leicester, and the judge let him off with a reducible 5 years because he said he was too hungry to think during Ramadan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...e-men.html

Either this is massive discrimination on religious grounds that should lead to the judge being fired, or we need a law that bans everyone from driving while fasting due to "their impaired judgement and reduced ability to operate motor vehicles".

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-15-2017 05:18 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

A Muslim deliberately ran over 5 people in Leicester, and the judge let him off with a reducible 5 years because he said he was too hungry to think during Ramadan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...e-men.html

First of all - Ramadan is just intermittent fasting where most Muslims gain weight during their "fasts".

It only becomes stressful for the non-smokers who have a tough time not smoking for 16 hours and the lack of water in hot climate is just moronic. I would not call this actual fasting - that is just not eating for 15 hours while shortly before sunrise and after sunrise you gorge yourself on food.

Second - that guy behaved exactly how a Muslim behaves. He backed up not looking back and bumped into a group of men, they got upset, he got upset because his Islamic supreme honor was touched. Then he got into his car and reacted exactly how the followers of a Medieval Warlord named Mohammed are expected to behave - he attempted to seriously hurt or kill them with his car not thinking about the consequences.

The judge took into account his young daughter and the fact that he was up until now not a criminal. I would personally deport the entire family and not punish him at all in the UK, ban him and his brood for life from entering any EU country. Why? Because after 5 years in a UK jail filled with 50% radical devout Muslims he will exit the place likely a Jihadi or at least a far stricter more believing Muslim. Next time he will take a truck and drive through dozens of children, because that is what Mohammed taught them to do.

Also as a side note - Ramadan is not only a time of increased terror with an ancient tradition of Muslims killing unbelievers or other Muslims (who are of some different opinions). Ramadan is also a time of increased nerves for sure, but this is beyond that. He did it deliberately - and if he is too dumb to control his emotions sufficiently, then he deserves to be punished.

[AneroidOcean]

Guys pointing out that "Paki" is generally a derogatory slur in the UK is all cool.

We can all learn from it.

However, saying that people are racist for using the term at all on the forum (when it's not really seen as racist/derogatory in the majority of the countries represented) is just stupid. Don't police the language of the entire forum because in your country it's seen as derogatory.

Call a racist a racist for their actual racist actions or complete thoughts, not because he uses a non-derogatory word that is derogatory in your country. That makes you the ignorant one, not him.

Way, WAY too many people trying to label people as racists without the least bit of effort to look into their complete thoughts, any reasoning behind them, their actions overall, etc...

[Lucky]

Just listened to a Sam Harris interview where he said: "Suppose a bomb went off in Times Square that killed 100,000 people. Is the appropriate reaction to say "well more people die every year because doctors forget to wash their hands. So no big deal."

[RexImperator]

[WalterBlack]

This is how retarded political correctness is in the UK - watch what happens when the Muslim cop has to catch a guy on the run in the woods:

Watch until 21:00

[Travesty]

I love and embrace the term whitey, it may be my favorite word in the entire English language.

[Dusty]

[Leonard D Neubache]

(06-16-2017 10:29 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

This is how retarded political correctness is in the UK - watch what happens when the Muslim cop has to catch a guy on the run in the woods:

Watch until 21:00

I was curious, but the too-long-didn't-watch version is that the muslim cop has to chase a car thief that flees on foot only the muslim cop has a dizzy spell because the fucking idiot is fasting for ramadan and unfit for duty, while still obviously pulling in his standard publicly funded paycheck.

You can get the important bits from 19:00 to 21:00.