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The ascent of a player
#1

The ascent of a player

Hi guys, I'm inquiring some reviews from more experienced players here.

Little background :
25 yo who was in a 5 year LTR, she nexted me because I became her boring beta provider. In the game since almost 2 years now.

So here starts the story, I got into the game more by revenge and wanted to prove myself that  I could bed a lot of women.
Being a nice guy, I started with the usual asshole game and it worked pretty well. +35 notches on my first year, with mostly 5.5-6.5's only ONS from nightgame.
Ok this is fun, my friends see me as a semi-god for laying that much women but deep inside I know I'm fucking girls under my SMV and this is kind of depressing.

After this first year I decided to set up myself to an another level (game, gym and experiences). I quite my engineering job and I'm now traveling since 8 months, chasing women and new experiences in Australia, SEA and SA.

I made my biggest progresses in those 8 months :
- can game women in French, English & Spanish
- became more social and can get into almost every social circle
- more self reliable with all the experiences I lived
- put +5kg of muscles


Point is I obtained enough value to fuck those 6-6.5's  easily, no difficulty.
I also now have IOI's from those 7-7.5's, I'm well received when I approach them, I get numbers, dances & makeouts.
But damn, I can get them to stick around. I can't get a 2nd date with them, while the 6s are blowing my phone everyday.

So my questions are :

Is it the normal ascent of a player ?

Did you guys go through the same path?
 
What are the effective steps you took, to get to the next level ?

How long did it take ?

Should I forget all those 6's and only go for the 7-8's ?


I'm noticing at 25 that life is getting better every year, but I won't be 100% satisfied with my dating life if I can't get those 7-8's.

I also think that getting into daygame, could be the next step to my game. I first need to grow some balls to do that lol.

Thank you everyone !
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#2

The ascent of a player

While your background and experience is different from mine, I do have the same problem as you - getting interest from 5s and 6s is easy and I could rack up notches on them if I wanted to, but starting from 7 and onward there seems to be a barrier of sorts. Just like you've said, it's difficult to get those more attractive chicks to stick around for more than a date or two.

I'd guess it's either our game not being good enough yet, or their egos being inflated from all the attention they receive, or probably the combination of both.
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#3

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Quote: (05-30-2017 07:15 AM)Khan Wrote:  

I'd guess it's either our game not being good enough yet, or their egos being inflated from all the attention they receive, or probably the combination of both.

More "formal" players can weigh in here, but in my estimation, 7s and 8s are used to being gamed and play defensively.

5s and 6s want to be gamed and will set themselves up for it, because it validates their belief that they are 7s and 8s.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
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#4

The ascent of a player

It's more than that 7s and above aren't simply satisfied with the base level game. They also want to chase because in their mind they're out looking for Chad Thundercock.

It's all about the push pull and sort of letting them gravitate to you to a degree. I really don't know how to explain it in concrete steps but once game becomes instinct you start filling in and doing more free form.

Gaming 5s and 6s can be done by anyone with a sense of Game 101 and a strong base. Anything beyond requires throwing some caution to the wind. At that point it's much more a philosophical idea than a "science".

"Until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,— 'Wait and hope'."- Alexander Dumas, "The Count of Monte Cristo"

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#5

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If you don't wear many diamonds yet now is the time to start.

White leather jackets also help.

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#6

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Create an archetype of your self (Indiana Jones, Traveler, 50-Shades mysterious businessman, tough muscle-guy with tattoos, biker guy etc.). This does not even have to be related to your day job. You can be an accountant working in a cubicle of a big corporation.

Another way is to engage in a sexual nomad lifestyle that you are already doing. So you are already in SEA and SA. The only way to get a higher quality of girls interested in you in that area is to become an archetype that even their high-sexual-market-value women want to sleep with. Find out an archetype that you feel comfortable with and invest more time and energy into building that kind of man.

Also learning higher levels of Game from the masters in the field is a big plus. There are good resources now out there.
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#7

The ascent of a player

Thanks for the answers.

Should I keep going with those 6's and try to get some 7's, or should I put the 6's aside and only go for 7's ?

I tend to believe that if you only chase hot girls, on day it's going to be your reality.
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#8

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Quote: (05-31-2017 01:56 PM)Misito Wrote:  

Thanks for the answers.

Should I keep going with those 6's and try to get some 7's, or should I put the 6's aside and only go for 7's ?

I tend to believe that if you only chase hot girls, on day it's going to be your reality.

Go for the girls you want to fuck. Don't give more value to the girl that's a "7" over the "6". That's the pedestal.
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Quote: (05-31-2017 01:56 PM)Misito Wrote:  

Should I keep going with those 6's and try to get some 7's, or should I put the 6's aside and only go for 7's ?

I tend to believe that if you only chase hot girls, on day it's going to be your reality.

Only you can know which girls pass your personal boner test.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
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