[rudebwoy]

(05-19-2017 06:06 PM)GymBro Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 01:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I stopped reading when you said act whitewash, horrible strategy.

I assume you are Asian (Indian), which can make things tougher but not impossible.

The two best guys I know at gaming in Canada (Toronto) are both "brown", West-Indian background and have super tight game. They have IDGAF game, high energy and pull on a regular.

Interesting, appreciate the feedback.

What kind of girls are they pulling? Suburban bottle blondes from Burlington? Hood ethnic chicks from Rexdale?

Which bars/clubs do they have the best luck pulling from in Toronto?

Different kinds of chicks from different backgrounds, mostly white of course. No one wants hood chicks from Rexdale.

Would it matter if I told you the bars and clubs we go too.

From your post I can tell you have the wrong attitude and mindset.

[GymBro]

(05-26-2017 11:10 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 06:06 PM)GymBro Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 01:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I stopped reading when you said act whitewash, horrible strategy.

I assume you are Asian (Indian), which can make things tougher but not impossible.

The two best guys I know at gaming in Canada (Toronto) are both "brown", West-Indian background and have super tight game. They have IDGAF game, high energy and pull on a regular.

Interesting, appreciate the feedback.

What kind of girls are they pulling? Suburban bottle blondes from Burlington? Hood ethnic chicks from Rexdale?

Which bars/clubs do they have the best luck pulling from in Toronto?

Different kinds of chicks from different backgrounds, mostly white of course. No one wants hood chicks from Rexdale.

Would it matter if I told you the bars and clubs we go too.

From your post I can tell you have the wrong attitude and mindset.

Which bar/club in Toronto have you had the most one night stands from in the past year?

[rudebwoy]

Why would I answer a question like that on a open forum?

You have no rep points and no one knows you.

No offense, I think what you wrote was poor and not a good strategy for "ethnic" guys.

I am black and would never pretend to be anything else, girls hate fake dudes.

[GymBro]

(05-27-2017 09:55 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Why would I answer a question like that on a open forum?

You have no rep points and no one knows you.

No offense, I think what you wrote was poor and not a good strategy for "ethnic" guys.

I am black and would never pretend to be anything else, girls hate fake dudes.

I'm writing based on my experience as an ethnic dude who frequents bars/clubs in downtown Toronto.

What has worked for you? What do you recommend?

[Cobra]

Gymbro, the reason you're not getting white girls (although you say you do) is your desperation and poor attitude. The same attitude you're pumping into an otherwise surprisingly valuable thread.

May I suggest being a bit more cordial with other members?

Instead of looking at objective fact, you are trying to fulfill the self hating self fulfilling prophecy. I've had friends like you who just didn't work hard enough and cried racism. There's still time to jump out of it.

[GymBro]

(05-28-2017 01:06 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

Gymbro, the reason you're not getting white girls (although you say you do) is your desperation and poor attitude. The same attitude you're pumping into an otherwise surprisingly valuable thread.

May I suggest being a bit more cordial with other members?

Instead of looking at objective fact, you are trying to fulfill the self hating self fulfilling prophecy. I've had friends like you who just didn't work hard enough and cried racism. There's still time to jump out of it.

Duly noted. Believe me, I am hustling hard.

As an ethnic guy, what has worked best for you in terms of getting one night stands from bars and clubs in the US? Care to share your experience?

[rudebwoy]

Thanks Cobra!

@Gymbro - I wish you would stop using that word ethnic to describe yourself.

Why don't you date Asian girls? Toronto has loads of them and some cute ones as well.

To get ONS in downtown Toronto, the number one thing you need is logistics.

The few Asian guys I see date nice white girls, usually have something going for them (nice ride/money/physique/fashionable)

I assume with your username, you lift!

[AfroSamurai]

(05-13-2017 01:29 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

On the other hand, paradoxically in a mostly white venue, an objectively handsome "whitewashed" ethnic is failod less hard by his phenotype since a girl hasn't been approahced by guys who share the same "low value" pheonotype with shitty game, and can even leverage his novelty/exotic factor as being one of the few whitewashed ethnics in the venue with girls who want to try something different.

Looking back, almost all my night game pulls as an objectively handsome but "failod by phenotype" ethnic non-white/non-black/non-white Hispanic guy in North America came as a result of implementing these strategies.

Thoughts?

Its best to be in the grey zone. Judge the crowd and see what will be accepted as per what culture you should act. How do hispanic dudes perform with other ethnicities? Im half black half filipino and am well received by most minority girls except white washed asian chicas.

Ive noticed it doesesnt really matter whether your hispanic vs whatever, more about how light your skin is. If your a light skinned hispanic dude it'd be easier to pull the whitewashed thing.

(pull off the I'm a white culture having minority act)

[GymBro]

(05-13-2017 01:29 AM)GymBro Wrote:  

- Target foreign girls. Specifically European, Latin American and Asian girls. The less time they've spent in North America, the better. They're more likely to give an objectively handsome ethnic man a fair chance as these women are less likely to be influenced by North American media which stereotypes ethnic men as "low value".

Used this to great effect last night!

[kosko]

"acting whitewashed" isn't the way to go about it. You just have to be locked in to what the local culture is. I grew up in "white washed" Canada where it was 90% white. You grow up playing hockey, doing dips, shooting gophers, listening to country, and that really just becomes who you are to an extent. This simply just helps you relate to the local cultures women. I stress this all the time for Canadian dudes are white girls in Canada are just used to a certain lifestyle and culture that is not common to minorities and ethnic people.

In Toronto for example the youth culture is heavily urban. If you have a girl who grew up in Toronto she many times than not knows more about African culture than me. I remember one Filipino girl telling me about Jalof rice which is a Ghana staple and I nearly fell out of my chair. She claims she knows how to make it and she went through the step by step process even down to the onions and the Magi cubes. In that instance who looks out of place? I grew up throwing rocks at gophers with country music blaring and these girl who isn't even black knows more about my ethnic staples than me.

It is all about your local situation 100%.

You have to lock in to the what is the norms there where you may be at. You can keep your culture traits at home and with family and when girls become more interested and comfy with you can introduce them to your cultural side and she will likely be impressed by it more times than not.

I don't obsess over race or whatever else. I think to many Indian dudes get but hurt over it. Just be cool and you will get bitches. I have never seen a cool and suave Indian dude NOT get pussy. It is always the awkward ones who act strange and complain about white girls not wanting them while the cool ones are swimming in it.


I have told this story before as how the two biggest players in my hometown was a Laos dude and a West Indian. Everybody thought the West Indian guy was South Asian as folks are ignorant in those parts. I tell you though, these two dudes terrorized my whole town and fucked and chucked half the girls in the city. My home town was 90% white and nobody ever gave them shit for being who they are.

Know the local culture
Be cool
Have style and some flair


The only caveat I have is that as a ethnic or a minority your hygiene has to be 110%. You have to be the freshest dude in any venue. These white girls rarely shower but still think ethic people are not as clean. That is one boogie man that is like a cloak so just be proactive in making sure you a fresh and on point.

[GymBro]

By "whitewashed" I don't mean going fishing and hunting and listening to Arcade Fire Stompin Tom Connors. What I mean is to appear "white" (ie. not foreign) enough to appear as a palpable sexual partner. When you don't have a sexy archetype to fall back on (black mandingo/Latin lover) this is the only way to go.

Adopt a neutral Canadian accent and mannerisms - no jerky body language, no head bobbing, excessive arm gestures etc. A lot of ethnic guys (including Latinos and Southern Europeans) gesture a lot with their hands and this is an instant turn-off for your standard WASPy Canadian girl.

I know brown guys who grew up in ethnic enclaves in Scarborough and Brampton. These guys have a weird hybrid ghetto-FOB accent (think YouTuber Superwoman). If you've seen these guys in action at downtown Toronto clubs you know they get shut down hard and fast by white girls. Girls hear the ghetto-FOB accent and instanope out - they see it as low value and "immigrant".

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I have told this story before as how the two biggest players in my hometown was a Laos dude and a West Indian. Everybody thought the West Indian guy was South Asian as folks are ignorant in those parts. I tell you though, these two dudes terrorized my whole town and fucked and chucked half the girls in the city. My home town was 90% white and nobody ever gave them shit for being who they are.

How tall was the West Indian dude? Just curious.

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The only caveat I have is that as a ethnic or a minority your hygiene has to be 110%. You have to be the freshest dude in any venue. These white girls rarely shower but still think ethic people are not as clean. That is one boogie man that is like a cloak so just be proactive in making sure you a fresh and on point.

Agree 100%.