[sonderho]

I was at this event and decided to go home early. Long story short I took home these two girls' jumpers with me because they didn't want to carry it etc. We're just friends at this stage and they're nice girls so I thought what the heck. Told them to message me when they got back from the event so I could pass it back to them/they could collect it from me but they never did.

It's been 4 days and I see them around. I like one of them who has a boyfriend and my gut tells me she has a soft spot for me.

So. My question is, has anyone been in a similar situation and how did it pan out? Did you manage to transition this into anything? I haven't got any plans at this point but it occurred to me that this situation could go a few ways. I could be overthinking this but I find it weird how they haven't asked for the jumpers back.

[Vill@in]

Offer to wash their full load of dirty laundry for them.

Maybe they'll call you back then?

[Sombro]

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[Lawrence of A Labia]

If they'd left it on purpose like the title says then it could considered marking territory and thus an IOI. But it's not so

Scenerio 1
Leaving it up to the girls
- either one of them asks about it
1 you say you've lost it and they're welcome to come search for it at your room.
2 or you just bring them home so they can pick it up themselves.

Scenerio 2
You remind them about it
- pick your favorite and hide hers and give the other one's jumper back. Then back to first scenerio.

Scenerio 3
Sell 'em on eBay and with that money buy the best cigar/ettes and learn to make smoke rings.
   

Scenerio 4
Pretend this never happened and deny until you die that you took someone's dirty laundry home.

Hope this helps.

[Splord]

Start a laundry firm because you ain't getting any pussy, friend.

The way you describe it, not only they didn't leave their undies in your room but you volunteered to take it from the event.

Now if only one of them asked you personally, it might mean that she's interested, but this? Probably not.

[hoops330]

"come get your clothes before i throw them in the trash"

[blck]

(05-10-2017 07:32 AM)sonderho Wrote:  

I was at this event and decided to go home early. Long story short I took home these two girls' jumpers with me because they didn't want to carry it etc. We're just friends at this stage and they're nice girls so I thought what the heck. Told them to message me when they got back from the event so I could pass it back to them/they could collect it from me but they never did.
[...]

[Cobra]

Thread title : Girls left their clothes in my room..

Fact: OP himself took the clothes home with him to "help" the girls..

Two very different scenarios and thread is slightly click baity. So good job on that.

However, being red pill on the forum is not the same as being red pill in real life OP.

My advice: you need to put more work into yourself.

[General Stalin]

Throw the clothes away and go meet new girls. Don't offer to bring broads' dirty laundry home with you ever.

[Phoenix]

Sell them to Japanese businessmen.

[torridon747]

1. Leave them somewhere lowkey to mak another girl jealous

2. Tell her she left her clothes at your house and fuck her whwn she gets there.

3. Sell underwear on craigslist and everything else on ebay.

[XXL]

Throw house party.

Invite them and tell them you have gift for them as a bait.

Party hard and social proof yourself to the max.

Reap the benefits

[sonderho]

(05-11-2017 09:46 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Throw the clothes away and go meet new girls. Don't offer to bring broads' dirty laundry home with you ever.

Part of my motivation for taking it home was using it as an opportunity to get them in my place/their place easily

[Oz.]

Burn the clothes, as you stare into the fire really ponder your manhood and the stage of life you are in.

[Delta8]

Use it as an opportunity to see them again. Sometimes they drop lipstick or mascara from the night before so I tell them I found it whilst cleaning my room a few days later.

Never under any circumstances EVER give a girl hoody if she's leaving your house...

[Stroked351w]

You'd get the best results listing their shit on Craigslist my friend.

[Suits]

These girls want to avoid you so badly that they are willing to buy new clothes just to stay miles away from you.

Conclusion: you're thirsty, bro.

[Gmac]

Sell on ebay

[Dream Medicine]

Sonderho,

Some things you have done well

(i) Since we last talked I can see you have taken action to improve your game. I note with pleasure that you took my advice and started networking with fellow game-aware men in real life. [1]

(ii) Similarly, it appears that you have been working on your social circle.

What you can improve on

Amidst the harsh yet understandable criticism and the admittedly hilarious satire (Oz & Pheonix! ), there are some useful, take-home messages to be found in this thread. Take a deep breath and focus on how you can use it to improve your mindset and behaviours in getting closer to sexual success and a better quality of life.

(05-11-2017 05:17 PM)sonderho Wrote:  

Part of my motivation for taking it home was using it as an opportunity to get them in my place/their place easily

(i) Considering that you are new to the game, it is natural to think tactically about how to persuade girls to come over to your place. However, it seems that due to your lack of options and inexperience in reading sexual receptiveness, you are latching on to any chance with women, no matter how small. It is clear that you are clutching at straws and I have to agree with Suits here - you're thirsty. Too thirsty.

(ii) You cannot force, pressure, or trick women into a situation where they will suddenly be attracted to you and open up. You have to work on it, step-by-step. There are no shortcuts, for now.

Lessons for the future

(i) Beware the danger of trying to squeeze the faintest whiff of sexual opportunity out of any interaction. You need to recognize and accept when your chances are dead in the water. In addition, I previously wrote some tips here on how to kill the thirst. [2]

(05-10-2017 07:32 AM)sonderho Wrote:  

I could be overthinking this...

(ii) Yes you were, which is normal considering your active mind and recent entrance into pickup. I have met many young guys with a similar disposition and I used to chronically overthink game too, so the following advice is based on real experience:

Keep it simple: attract -> isolate -> comfort -> pull -> arouse.

In many situations I wouldn't hesitate to highlight the limitations of simplified, largely unhelpful advice like the Natural's "just be high value" or the classic from Mum "just be yourself". Nonetheless, it seems that over-analysis could be holding up your progress. Therefore despite the imprecision of this linear, non-contextualized model (e.g., sometimes you need a reasonable level of trust before you can isolate a girl from her friends), I think you'll find its simplicity to be helpful.

Sometimes less is more. Put another way, sometimes thinking less will get you more girls -- assuming of course you are taking massive ACTION. Remember: read less, think less, take more action, then reflect.

(iii) To simplify your target women, consider the below:

(05-10-2017 07:32 AM)sonderho Wrote:  

We're just friends at this stage... I like one of them who has a boyfriend and my gut tells me she has a soft spot for me.

I urge you to NOT sexually escalate with any females in your existing social circle.*

*The exception would be if they have already shown you clear sexual receptivity such as allowing you to isolate and touch them more intimately than what a friend would accept.

Although it is possible to play the long game (like how I once banged the best friend of my ex-girlfriend six whole years after meeting her), it is extremely unlikely that you have already triggered an unspoken, hidden spark of attraction that you will suddenly be able to leverage. The friend zone is real, and almost certainly well-fortified in this case.

What's more, there are several risks for you pursuing these types of taken and/or previously-acquainted girls, including: {a} amplifying your sense of non-reciprocated sexual interest, which will dent your self-confidence, {b} appearing 'weird' or 'creepy', which will tarnish your social reputation, and {c} pissing off their dudes, which could turn ugly. Instead, give them all a casual NP-LJBF ("No problem, let's just be friends") -- in your mind at the very least -- which will help protect your reputation and increase the chance of hooking other prospects through your network.

In summary, utilize the powerful principle of social proof from your existing social circle in getting interest from brand new prospects, and likewise keep up the cold-approaching.

Tips on RVF posting etiquette

(i) Make sure you read the forum rules. [3]

(ii) Search the forum for your topic or key words before posting a new thread. I suggest you refrain from starting new threads for now, and next time stick this type of "what-do-I-do?" situation in the 'Player's Log / Lounge'. Alternatively the 'What should I text next? thread' is also good for technical advice. [4,5]

(iii) Zanardi, Destiny and others have created their own journals which illustrate an efficient way for you to track your own progress. Just remember to post it in the 'Newbie Forum' rather than here, the main game section.

(05-11-2017 09:05 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

Thread title : Girls left their clothes in my room..
Fact: OP himself took the clothes home with him to "help" the girls..

(iv) Why did you write this, I wonder. Because I don't know the reason for such wording I'll leave it with you to explain or at least ponder. Just try to keep the wording accurate and re-read your post before submitting. Last, putting in some extra effort and detail into your posts will increase the chance of receiving quality, meaningful feedback.

As usual feel free to contact me off-forum if you want to clarify these comments, discuss a specific situation or just talk game. All the best.

Links

[1] "...you took my advice and started networking..."
[2] "I wrote some tips here on how to kill the thirst"
[3] The forum rules
[4] Player's Log / Lounge
[5] The "What should I text next?" thread

[Dusty]

[CaptainChardonnay]

You could throw it in the trash!

[sonderho]

(05-12-2017 05:04 PM)Dream Medicine Wrote:  

Sonderho,

Some things you have done well

(i) Since we last talked I can see you have taken action to improve your game. I note with pleasure that you took my advice and started networking with fellow game-aware men in real life. [1]

(ii) Similarly, it appears that you have been working on your social circle.

What you can improve on

Amidst the harsh yet understandable criticism and the admittedly hilarious satire (Oz & Pheonix! ), there are some useful, take-home messages to be found in this thread. Take a deep breath and focus on how you can use it to improve your mindset and behaviours in getting closer to sexual success and a better quality of life.

(05-11-2017 05:17 PM)sonderho Wrote:  

Part of my motivation for taking it home was using it as an opportunity to get them in my place/their place easily

(i) Considering that you are new to the game, it is natural to think tactically about how to persuade girls to come over to your place. However, it seems that due to your lack of options and inexperience in reading sexual receptiveness, you are latching on to any chance with women, no matter how small. It is clear that you are clutching at straws and I have to agree with Suits here - you're thirsty. Too thirsty.

(ii) You cannot force, pressure, or trick women into a situation where they will suddenly be attracted to you and open up. You have to work on it, step-by-step. There are no shortcuts, for now.

Lessons for the future

(i) Beware the danger of trying to squeeze the faintest whiff of sexual opportunity out of any interaction. You need to recognize and accept when your chances are dead in the water. In addition, I previously wrote some tips here on how to kill the thirst. [2]

(05-10-2017 07:32 AM)sonderho Wrote:  

I could be overthinking this...

(ii) Yes you were, which is normal considering your active mind and recent entrance into pickup. I have met many young guys with a similar disposition and I used to chronically overthink game too, so the following advice is based on real experience:

Keep it simple: attract -> isolate -> comfort -> pull -> arouse.

In many situations I wouldn't hesitate to highlight the limitations of simplified, largely unhelpful advice like the Natural's "just be high value" or the classic from Mum "just be yourself". Nonetheless, it seems that over-analysis could be holding up your progress. Therefore despite the imprecision of this linear, non-contextualized model (e.g., sometimes you need a reasonable level of trust before you can isolate a girl from her friends), I think you'll find its simplicity to be helpful.

Sometimes less is more. Put another way, sometimes thinking less will get you more girls -- assuming of course you are taking massive ACTION. Remember: read less, think less, take more action, then reflect.

(iii) To simplify your target women, consider the below:

(05-10-2017 07:32 AM)sonderho Wrote:  

We're just friends at this stage... I like one of them who has a boyfriend and my gut tells me she has a soft spot for me.

I urge you to NOT sexually escalate with any females in your existing social circle.*

*The exception would be if they have already shown you clear sexual receptivity such as allowing you to isolate and touch them more intimately than what a friend would accept.

Although it is possible to play the long game (like how I once banged the best friend of my ex-girlfriend six whole years after meeting her), it is extremely unlikely that you have already triggered an unspoken, hidden spark of attraction that you will suddenly be able to leverage. The friend zone is real, and almost certainly well-fortified in this case.

What's more, there are several risks for you pursuing these types of taken and/or previously-acquainted girls, including: {a} amplifying your sense of non-reciprocated sexual interest, which will dent your self-confidence, {b} appearing 'weird' or 'creepy', which will tarnish your social reputation, and {c} pissing off their dudes, which could turn ugly. Instead, give them all a casual NP-LJBF ("No problem, let's just be friends") -- in your mind at the very least -- which will help protect your reputation and increase the chance of hooking other prospects through your network.

In summary, utilize the powerful principle of social proof from your existing social circle in getting interest from brand new prospects, and likewise keep up the cold-approaching.

Tips on RVF posting etiquette

(i) Make sure you read the forum rules. [3]

(ii) Search the forum for your topic or key words before posting a new thread. I suggest you refrain from starting new threads for now, and next time stick this type of "what-do-I-do?" situation in the 'Player's Log / Lounge'. Alternatively the 'What should I text next? thread' is also good for technical advice. [4,5]

(iii) Zanardi, Destiny and others have created their own journals which illustrate an efficient way for you to track your own progress. Just remember to post it in the 'Newbie Forum' rather than here, the main game section.

(05-11-2017 09:05 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

Thread title : Girls left their clothes in my room..
Fact: OP himself took the clothes home with him to "help" the girls..

(iv) Why did you write this, I wonder. Because I don't know the reason for such wording I'll leave it with you to explain or at least ponder. Just try to keep the wording accurate and re-read your post before submitting. Last, putting in some extra effort and detail into your posts will increase the chance of receiving quality, meaningful feedback.

As usual feel free to contact me off-forum if you want to clarify these comments, discuss a specific situation or just talk game. All the best.

Links

[1] "...you took my advice and started networking..."
[2] "I wrote some tips here on how to kill the thirst"
[3] The forum rules
[4] Player's Log / Lounge
[5] The "What should I text next?" thread

yep points taken Criticism, or any constructive comments are fantastic. It's what I want to hear to improve and I'm pretty grateful for that. What I fear most is no feedback at all. Have a bit of reading to do (Y)

[Easy_C]

Of all the answers given, my favorite is to tell them that you have the clothes and they have until X day of the week to pick them up before you donate the clothes.

[realologist]

My roommates in college and I had a decent amount of parties and a lot of girls always running through. We had a drawer for that type of stuff. Random jewelry, clothes, keys, random other girl stuff. It was always women that left there shit.

Either way the look on girls faces when they saw the drawer was hilarious.