Kona, no need to bring up Ferguson.
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Quote: (04-09-2017 05:51 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 03:26 PM)BrewDog Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 02:44 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:I can't remember a time when the police ever thought I was resisting arrest. I also can't remember a time they threw me to the ground. There may be a correlation there somewhere.
He Judo threw her face first into the fucking concrete floor and you don't have a problem with that? Ok. Don't complain when the cops think you're being resistant to their actions and do much worse because you are as big, or bigger than them.
The time to make your case for unlawful arrest is not during the arrest. Is there ever a time you're going to say, "No way, I'm not going with you!" and then the officers say, "Okay, you're right" and then they leave?
And let's not forget this part: "Michaella Surat was thrown to the ground outside Bondi Beach Bar in Fort Collins on Thursday night after allegedly hitting one of the officers."
That's a short video. We can't see what happened beforehand to make the officer arrest her.
Arresting does not equal taste concrete by means of a throw into it if the officer had any semblance of control over the situation or the perp.
That girl was not a threat. No one around him was a threat. he had back up. What is the justification and rationale behind face planting a woman based on the events we saw in the clip.
Nowhere in that clip did she warrant the action. She could be the biggest cunt in the world but right there and then there was no justification. If a cop does that under those circumstances I want to see him react to lethal violence or stressful situations and come out clean.
Quote: (04-09-2017 06:17 PM)kavi Wrote:
It is reported that she had already hit him and looks to be trying it again.
Quote: (04-09-2017 06:45 PM)Kona Wrote:
Let's imagine it wasn't a girl. Let's image a two hundred fifty pound boxer. (A white one, because we know how it would go with a black guy.) They sure as hell would have done a little more verbal deescalating.
Quote: (04-09-2017 06:37 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 01:12 PM)RIslander Wrote:
Any cop worth his salt could of deescalated that situation and made an arrest without violence.
"Deescalate"?
You don't have much real world experience with the police, do you?
Quote: (04-09-2017 01:46 PM)RIslander Wrote:
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That is true, if the officer is a robot. I'd prefer my tax dollars going to police officers with a brain. And I fully understand the powerful nature of muscle memory.
Quote: (04-09-2017 07:52 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 01:46 PM)RIslander Wrote:
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That is true, if the officer is a robot. I'd prefer my tax dollars going to police officers with a brain. And I fully understand the powerful nature of muscle memory.
Double the pay and double the qualifications. Suck up the increased taxes.
Nothing in life is free. Pay meathead wages, ask for meathead qualifications, get meathead cops.
Quote: (04-09-2017 05:54 PM)Kona Wrote:
The police are not also the judge and jury.
There was no reason to throw that girl to the ground like that. He wanted to show her who's boss. That's it.
Hitting a cop, yes that is a crime. It is not the cops job, however, to administer punishment on the spot.
I get so tired of hearing the "well the cop has the right to defend himself" argument.
I think this is one of the constitutional amendments:
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police, who investigation crime. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
Also, I have a feeling since bodycam footage has not been released, theres more fault on the cop than we see in the tape. He could have spun her up against the light pole right next to them.
At some point someone needs to speak up and say that maybe police training is a little dated.
Aloha!
Quote: (04-09-2017 08:33 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 05:54 PM)Kona Wrote:
I think this is one of the constitutional amendments:
In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police, who investigation crime. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
FTFY.
Quote: (04-09-2017 08:13 PM)Caractacus Potts Wrote:
When I was in college I trained with the Judo/Jiu Jitsu club. The amount of force or kazushi required to move a female uke opponent was much less than with a male. If you did the technique right both parties should be thrown or joint locked equally.
But during free fighting or randori one has a tendency to muscle through things rather than rely on pure technique. On a number of occasions I was afraid I used too much force when throwing a female or newer member.
Quote: (04-09-2017 07:52 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 01:46 PM)RIslander Wrote:
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That is true, if the officer is a robot. I'd prefer my tax dollars going to police officers with a brain. And I fully understand the powerful nature of muscle memory.
Double the pay and double the qualifications. Suck up the increased taxes.
Nothing in life is free. Pay meathead wages, ask for meathead qualifications, get meathead cops.
Quote: (04-09-2017 02:29 PM)Mikan Wrote:
Ippon!
Quote: (04-09-2017 07:43 PM)RIslander Wrote:
If you mean getting arrested, then no. I am a law abiding citizen and not a sack of shit. If you mean hanging around police, then yes I do as I am close friends with several cops and federal law enforcement officers and have heard all their stories.
Quote: (04-09-2017 10:04 PM)Kratomite Wrote:
She'll never be a bitch again. I can tell you that.
I had a similar experience in the 8th grade. I was a 115lb real life shit lord. I had no concept how small/weak I was. I trash talked a much bigger dude, and he literally picked me up and dropped me on my head.
I weighed my words CAREFULLY after that.
The idea chicks should be given a free pass on violence is just silly. She got insolent with a much bigger man with a badge and a gun. Stupid is as stupid does.
Quote: (04-09-2017 09:30 PM)Zamyatin Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 02:29 PM)Mikan Wrote:
Ippon!
Definitely not an ippon as she landed on her front.
That was sickening to watch. She presented no threat to him whatsoever. He could have very easily killed her, or broken her teeth, caused brain damage, you name it.
More sickening are the posters applauding the actions of the cop. Instead of directing your rage towards >>>attractive<<< females, maybe it should be directed to the militarized police forces that treat the citizenry with utmost contempt. Cops like this guy are complete fascist cunts, and will be the very first to provide muscle against unarmed citizens, whether they be tipsy girls on a night out, or christian bakers who don't want to bake a cake for a lesbian wedding, or maybe even a group of "neo-masculine" men trying to have a peaceful night out together.
Wake the fuck up, losers.
Quote: (04-09-2017 10:14 PM)Suits Wrote:
Quote: (04-09-2017 10:04 PM)Kratomite Wrote:
She'll never be a bitch again. I can tell you that.
I had a similar experience in the 8th grade. I was a 115lb real life shit lord. I had no concept how small/weak I was. I trash talked a much bigger dude, and he literally picked me up and dropped me on my head.
I weighed my words CAREFULLY after that.
The idea chicks should be given a free pass on violence is just silly. She got insolent with a much bigger man with a badge and a gun. Stupid is as stupid does.
She absolutely will be a bitch again.
One of the current elements in the social contract of all Western English speaking nations as well as plenty of non-Western English speaking nations, is that women are NOT required to learn from their mistakes.
She'll spend the next 6 months to a year having people tell her that what happened to her was unfair and that it wasn't her fault at all and that the police officer should be executed.
She'll have an even worse attitude when all is said and done and she'll develop a "survivor's" complex.