[kosko]

All the anti-sports dudes can stop their noise. This is where nerds vs. jocks get rebooted from High School. These are just the nerds who chose to read books and shit and be engineers. Don't pay any attention to the hate. Any dude knows sports is far from feminine.

Too much of anything is bad. Dudes who read to many books and lock themselves away are weirdo nerds, dudes who play too many video games are fucked, dudes who the fuck too many sluts will catch an exotic STD quite often, dudes who eat too much get fat, dudes who watch too many sports turn into ESPN dough boys, too much of anything is bad for you 100%!

But enjoying sports as hobby or pastime is very masculine. It is the most honest real life drama around. No other platform provides the chance for men to challenge and battle in an environment that won't bring on serious injury or death. Women just fake it with sports. More times than not she is only into it because her man is into it, or she wants attention for her social circle.

[Hoser]

Sportsball is drama? It's the same thing every year. You watch a band of athletes chase a ball around. Nothing changes but the faces. At least in all the other pastimes you mentioned there's an opportunity to learn and experience new things, and the man engaging in them is the one who gets to experience the pastime individually.

Great point, otherwise.

Full disclosure: I'm a bit of a nerd, myself.

[Conscious Pirate]

(03-17-2017 01:09 AM)kosko Wrote:  

All the anti-sports dudes can stop their noise. This is where nerds vs. jocks get rebooted from High School. These are just the nerds who chose to read books and shit and be engineers. Don't pay any attention to the hate. Any dude knows sports is far from feminine.

Too much of anything is bad. Dudes who read to many books and lock themselves away are weirdo nerds, dudes who play too many video games are fucked, dudes who the fuck too many sluts will catch an exotic STD quite often, dudes who eat too much get fat, dudes who watch too many sports turn into ESPN dough boys, too much of anything is bad for you 100%!

But enjoying sports as hobby or pastime is very masculine. It is the most honest real life drama around. No other platform provides the chance for men to challenge and battle in an environment that won't bring on serious injury or death. Women just fake it with sports. More times than not she is only into it because her man is into it, or she wants attention for her social circle.

Wrong. On every justification you make. But don't let "anti-sports dudes" make you think otherwise.

There is nothing masculine about "the real life drama" that you think sports spectatorship provides. What about the actual real life drama going on around you at any given point?

It's just collectivism (entirely female, & bookworms are by definition not collectivist, just like the concept of ideas) & tribalism. I respect both for what they are, but there's nothing to be learnt beyond childhood from either.

There are plenty of other platforms to challenge each other on.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(03-17-2017 01:09 AM)kosko Wrote:  

All the anti-sports dudes can stop their noise. This is where nerds vs. jocks get rebooted from High School. These are just the nerds who chose to read books and shit and be engineers. Don't pay any attention to the hate. Any dude knows sports is far from feminine.

Too much of anything is bad. Dudes who read to many books and lock themselves away are weirdo nerds, dudes who play too many video games are fucked, dudes who the fuck too many sluts will catch an exotic STD quite often, dudes who eat too much get fat, dudes who watch too many sports turn into ESPN dough boys, too much of anything is bad for you 100%!

But enjoying sports as hobby or pastime is very masculine. It is the most honest real life drama around. No other platform provides the chance for men to challenge and battle in an environment that won't bring on serious injury or death. Women just fake it with sports. More times than not she is only into it because her man is into it, or she wants attention for her social circle.

I was a strange combination of both - in my prime I read one book a day, studied 1-2 hours daily that got me the best marks, but I also trained my ass off and played plenty of sports. In fact I was a strange mixture of a nerd with a six-pack who could do 100 push-ups at age 16. (I had other issues back then - no superman here.)

Sports are masculine endeavors - watching it is in positive perception watching excellence especially if you play the sports yourself. Of course if you are just a couch potato, then it doesn't amount to much.

And yes - the current sports mantras are created for men to focus their masculine tribal instincts onto them and avoid focusing on what truly matters. We have to understand that.

Personally I stopped watching sports, because there was too much time going into it with nothing added to my life.

Occasionally I like to watch when it is the Superbowl, or soccer championships, but that is usually connected with cameraderie and getting together over beers. Doing it weekly as a highlight is way too limiting.

[nomadbrah]

(03-17-2017 01:09 AM)kosko Wrote:  

All the anti-sports dudes can stop their noise. This is where nerds vs. jocks get rebooted from High School. These are just the nerds who chose to read books and shit and be engineers. Don't pay any attention to the hate. Any dude knows sports is far from feminine.

Too much of anything is bad. Dudes who read to many books and lock themselves away are weirdo nerds, dudes who play too many video games are fucked, dudes who the fuck too many sluts will catch an exotic STD quite often, dudes who eat too much get fat, dudes who watch too many sports turn into ESPN dough boys, too much of anything is bad for you 100%!

But enjoying sports as hobby or pastime is very masculine. It is the most honest real life drama around. No other platform provides the chance for men to challenge and battle in an environment that won't bring on serious injury or death. Women just fake it with sports. More times than not she is only into it because her man is into it, or she wants attention for her social circle.

I love to play sports, well before I was injured, I also watch games in the playoffs and some in regular season. Team sports make alpha men and is the closest to a tribe in modern life.

I'm getting more and more disgusted with modern sports. I just can't sit around and watch multi-millionaires who play 4 minutes a game in the NBA take home $5 million a year or a "star" take home $30 million a year. These are not athletes anymore with such salaries, they are extremely important actors for the globalist agenda. Focus your aggression here thank you.

I don't know, I will still watch, because I love sports and competition, but we have to be honest and say this is the number one drug for men. Sports and beer in the weekends keeps the machine chugging along.

[rudebwoy]

He is gay, so game not recognized.

The girls he "dates" are cover-ups to hide his homo ways.

[porscheguy]

His kids may not have a mother, but I'm sure they'll have two dads.

[LockeAndLoad]

(03-17-2017 02:04 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

(03-17-2017 01:09 AM)kosko Wrote:  

All the anti-sports dudes can stop their noise. This is where nerds vs. jocks get rebooted from High School. These are just the nerds who chose to read books and shit and be engineers. Don't pay any attention to the hate. Any dude knows sports is far from feminine.

Too much of anything is bad. Dudes who read to many books and lock themselves away are weirdo nerds, dudes who play too many video games are fucked, dudes who the fuck too many sluts will catch an exotic STD quite often, dudes who eat too much get fat, dudes who watch too many sports turn into ESPN dough boys, too much of anything is bad for you 100%!

But enjoying sports as hobby or pastime is very masculine. It is the most honest real life drama around. No other platform provides the chance for men to challenge and battle in an environment that won't bring on serious injury or death. Women just fake it with sports. More times than not she is only into it because her man is into it, or she wants attention for her social circle.

Wrong. On every justification you make. But don't let "anti-sports dudes" make you think otherwise.

There is nothing masculine about "the real life drama" that you think sports spectatorship provides. What about the actual real life drama going on around you at any given point?

It's just collectivism (entirely female, & bookworms are by definition not collectivist, just like the concept of ideas) & tribalism. I respect both for what they are, but there's nothing to be learnt beyond childhood from either.

There are plenty of other platforms to challenge each other on.

That type of passive-aggressive response isn't going to fly here, champ.

It's fine to not be into sports, but to say that there is nothing masculine about watching sports shows a lack of understanding. Watching sports is one way for men to get together in social environments. It fosters a sense of identity and camaraderie, allows for socialization, etc.

Yes, there are plenty of hobbies to partake in. Sports--whether playing, watching, or frequently a combination of both--is one such hobby that is just as valid as most others. Perhaps we're not all engaged in whatever hyper masculine hobbies you are, big guy (such as complaining about how women spend their time and money?), but that doesn't mean watching sports isn't masculine.

But then what do I know, I'm just a lowly attorney (who, as a corporate attorney, hasn't seen the inside of a courtroom since law school and has absolutely no desire to). Seems like this forum is filled with legal experts able to assess skill by virtue of reading blog posts. Very impressive group of magistrates we've collected here, pal.

[Hoser]

There are plenty of attorneys on this forum who are able to refrain from using their extra three years of unemployment (aka law school) as evidence of superiority... "champ".

Judging by how you "argue" here, you likely took the inside counsel job just so you could avoid being surrounded by other lawyers, who would eat you alive.

Come back after the TRT starts kicking in, little buddy.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(03-17-2017 12:09 PM)LockeAndLoad Wrote:  

It's fine to not be into sports, but to say that there is nothing masculine about watching sports shows a lack of understanding. Watching sports is one way for men to get together in social environments. It fosters a sense of identity and camaraderie, allows for socialization, etc.

This is what I was going to say but am currently too fucked up via illness to say coherently.

Many very smart guys LOVE sports because it gives them a way of relating to people of all IQ groups. When you're a few standard deviations above the average IQ, trying to talk to the average person about anything intellectual becomes a giant headache, because they usually have the most craptacular ideas, but if you shut them down you're a dick. So you have to sit there and pretend that their basic bitch insights on the unemployment rate, immigration, or god help you, any sort of artistic or literary subject, are worth listening to, because otherwise you'll quickly wind up a social pariah.

Sports, however, give you an easy way to relate to anybody, and a safe subject to talk about. If you and a guy with a 95 IQ are both fans of the Vikings, you can talk about the vikings for a couple hours and both leave the conversation feeling better than when you started it. You can talk about the schedule, you can talk about the players, you can talk about past games you've seen... All kinds of things. And there's always new sports going on, so you'll never run out of conversation topics, either.

If you're a guy with a high IQ (+3SD or so?) who has trouble relating to other men, I would highly recommend picking up some basic sports knowledge. You don't even have to watch the games, 'cause they're usually long and boring and have too many damn commercials. Just learn enough that you can participate in a conversation.

[Kabal]

Spectator sports are for cucks.

Some guys are good at kicking a piece of inflated leather around, carrying/catching a piece of leather across an imaginary line, putting a piece of leather in an orange cylinder with yarn-dangling, smacking a a piece of rubber-surrounded-with-felt around a painted surface.

Pretty arbitrary tasks; good for them.

If you get emotionally invested in these outcomes (and your income is not dependent on sports betting), you might just be a cuck.

Rooting for laundry, as Seinfeld would say.

Watching sports in order to have "water cooler" talk with the hoi polloi is no excuse.

A cursory skim of box scores in the morning is more than enough to hold off your water-cooler-cuck-colleagues.

I have nothing against occasionally watching sports for entertainment (I do it sometimes, as well), but emotionally-invested is a different story.

I cannot respect a man who roots for laundry; much less one who wears another man's name on his back.

[Hoser]

I love watching sports!

...for as long as it takes me to understand the rules of the game and to get an idea of what an average game looks like. I reached this level at around age 10.

For some reason, however, I never really figured out women's volleyball, especially when played on the beach. I guess I'll have to continue my research.

[Transsimian]

[LockeAndLoad]

(03-17-2017 07:56 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

There are plenty of attorneys on this forum who are able to refrain from using their extra three years of unemployment (aka law school) as evidence of superiority... "champ".

Judging by how you "argue" here, you likely took the inside counsel job just so you could avoid being surrounded by other lawyers, who would eat you alive.

Come back after the TRT starts kicking in, little buddy.

This contributes nothing to this discussion and resorts to knee-jerk insults rather than offering any reasoned opinion. Your follow-up post about women's volleyball was actually pretty funny--more of those types of posts, less of these.

Never used a law degree as evidence of superiority--it seems like you guys are obsessed with it. You two brought it up--even to go back into my intro post to check up on me. I certainly don't think I'm superior to anyone based upon how long I've gone to school. Projecting insecurities on me isn't going to work.

(03-17-2017 10:27 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

Spectator sports are for cucks.

Some guys are good at kicking a piece of inflated leather around, carrying/catching a piece of leather across an imaginary line, putting a piece of leather in an orange cylinder with yarn-dangling, smacking a a piece of rubber-surrounded-with-felt around a painted surface.

Pretty arbitrary tasks; good for them.

If you get emotionally invested in these outcomes (and your income is not dependent on sports betting), you might just be a cuck.

Rooting for laundry, as Seinfeld would say.

Watching sports in order to have "water cooler" talk with the hoi polloi is no excuse.

A cursory skim of box scores in the morning is more than enough to hold off your water-cooler-cuck-colleagues.

I have nothing against occasionally watching sports for entertainment (I do it sometimes, as well), but emotionally-invested is a different story.

I cannot respect a man who roots for laundry; much less one who wears another man's name on his back.

Again, not liking sports is fine--plenty of people don't. However, saying "spectator sports are for cucks" and you cannot "respect a man who roots for laundry" defeats your purpose and simply portrays someone who is overcompensating--for what (or why), I'm not sure.

Yes, being good at kicking, throwing, or hitting a ball may be an arbitrary skill. However, failing to marvel at the athleticism as well as identify with a team whose history is often times inextricably linked with that of your home city (or the college you attended, etc.) is unfortunate. Passion is passion, whether it is directed towards a sports team, a particular film director or author, or for whatever other hobby. I like certain sports and teams because I grew up playing and following them, because my father would take me to games and it would serve as a bonding experience between us, because I've formed friendships with people at least initially based upon finding commonality in terms of our shared love of certain teams and sports, and because certain memories--championship victories, great games and individual performances, etc.--remind me of a particular time or place with particular people and are ingrained in me.

Reducing sports fans to "cucks" and saying you don't respect them shows ignorance about sports and sports fans in general. We aren't all fat guys sitting in underwear watching a game and eating shit food, just like "gamers" and guys into computers aren't all guys living in their parents' basements playing games. It's too bad you choose to try to fit an entire group of people into your narrow, limited world view. I bet you'd find a lot of enjoyment and benefits to passionately following a team.

[Hoser]

I do believe you're not a trial lawyer, based on your inability to read between the lines when I mentioned "plenty of attorneys on this forum".

I'm glad you caught the volleyball gag, though. I enjoyed it, too.

[Samseau]

(03-15-2017 02:08 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 01:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 01:32 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

Raise your hand if you wish you could grow up motherless like these boys will, having as your only parent a father who you likely will never be as good as.

Growing up with millions in a trust fund? In exchange for some mommy issues...? That's a no brainer, most men would take it.

You may not ever surpass your father Ronaldo in sports, but with that kind of starting capital you could easily turn into the next Donald Trump.

Could you put a price on a Mother's love though? I would not trade my lifetime with BOTH of my parents for any amount of money, some things in life money just can't buy.

Trust fund kids typically end up blowing all their parents money on drugs, hookers and therapy anyway.

(03-15-2017 02:15 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

I lost my mother when I was 6 years old, and my father never dated or remarried. I would gladly give up a fortune in exchange for the unconditional love and support of a mother who believed in me, as well as to have the opportunity to see healthy male/female interaction modeled daily.

It took me until I was almost 40 before I realized how many of my personal problems stem from having only one parent's voice in my head.

Honest psychologists will tell you the same thing: to become healthy adults, children need two parents of opposite sex.

(03-15-2017 02:16 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

This is not an option between having a millionaire father or having none.

This is an option between having Ronaldo as a father and NO MOTHER - which by the way likely won't work since the kid very likely will want to meet his/her mother anyway later on.

AND

Having as a second option a father like him and a mother who is not living with them. There is no way in hell that the courts can take away his kid unless he becomes a violent coke-head like Charlie Sheen - and in that case it is for the kid's wellfare anyway.

Either way - this MGTOW-family planning a la single mother/single father is just bullshit.

This is not an option of whether the kid would decide to be born or not to be born. Of course it is great to have him as a father, but it would be better to have a mother - however the future relationship would look like. Ronaldo could even pay her to abdicate her parental rights before birth - he managed that with the other woman, so why not with the next?

(03-16-2017 11:46 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 01:52 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 01:32 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

Raise your hand if you wish you could grow up motherless like these boys will, having as your only parent a father who you likely will never be as good as.

Growing up with millions in a trust fund? In exchange for some mommy issues...? That's a no brainer, most men would take it.

You may not ever surpass your father Ronaldo in sports, but with that kind of starting capital you could easily turn into the next Donald Trump.

Serious question:

How would you rate the health of your relationship with your mother?

Amazing at how blue pill these comments are, no offense.

50% of America is born out of wedlock. I'd wager at least 50% of these kids don't even know who their father is. And the vast majority of these kids are dirt fucking poor.

Considering how much of the world is born into a horrible struggle without even knowing their father, yet you guys act like not knowing the Mom in exchange for a few millions is a big deal?

Time to have some perspective.

[Hoser]

America is in its worst shape ever, and you don't think the epic number of out-of-wedlock births is to a large extent responsible for that?

Samseau, your reasoning is similar to that of a 6 who thinks she's hot because all her friends are 4s and 5s, or someone who thinks living in a trailer park is great just because he's never seen a luxury penthouse.

It's one thing to make lemonade when life gives you lemons, but you're saying a lemon is as sweet as a watermelon.

Strong families are the bedrock of strong societies, and are thus red pill. Disagreeing with this seems to me more like a black pill, if not leftist, mentality.

[Samseau]

(03-20-2017 05:47 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

America is in its worst shape ever, and you don't think the epic number of out-of-wedlock births is to a large extent responsible for that?

Of course it is, I've been teaching that men here for years. But this has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Quote:

Samseau, your reasoning is similar to that of a 6 who thinks she's hot because all her friends are 4s and 5s, or someone who thinks living in a trailer park is great just because he's never seen a luxury penthouse.

I'd say it's more like a kid without a Mom inheriting millions is a 7 or 8, while poor bastard children are 2's or 3's.

[DamienCasanova]

(03-20-2017 11:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Amazing at how blue pill these comments are, no offense.

50% of America is born out of wedlock. I'd wager at least 50% of these kids don't even know who their father is. And the vast majority of these kids are dirt fucking poor.

Considering how much of the world is born into a horrible struggle without even knowing their father, yet you guys act like not knowing the Mom in exchange for a few millions is a big deal? Laugh

Time to have some perspective

(03-20-2017 05:47 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

America is in its worst shape ever, and you don't think the epic number of out-of-wedlock births is to a large extent responsible for that?

Of course it is, I've been teaching that men here for years. But this has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Quote:

Samseau, your reasoning is similar to that of a 6 who thinks she's hot because all her friends are 4s and 5s, or someone who thinks living in a trailer park is great just because he's never seen a luxury penthouse.

I'd say it's more like a kid without a Mom inheriting millions is a 7 or 8, while poor bastard children are 2's or 3's.

I usually respect your opinion on most issues, but i'm sorry you're making a disgusting argument here. How many millions of dollars is you Mom's life worth?

I thought you were a traditional family man, but you could put a price tag on having a Mom? Then how much is your Father worth to you? Or anyone else for that matter.

Seems like we've got several different arguments here. You're trying to say an orphan child or motherless/fatherless poor child would be better off with a million dollars vs the nothing they got, because perspective? That seems obvious

But if you're talking about someone with 2 parents, or someone who's lost a parent, and trying to put a price tag on their life, that seems truly deplorable.

I've known plenty of families that have fights over money and inheritance, it brings out the worst in people.

Your original argument was
"Growing up with millions in a trust fund? In exchange for some mommy issues...? That's a no brainer, most men would take it."

Now I see what you mean from one "perspective", but it's a totally different argument from the other perspective.

Is that not a logical fallacy of some kind, the argument from nothing? Everyone would take the something over nothing, obviously. But would you trade something irreplaceable for $omething el$e? Which argument are you making, the obvious one or the deplorable one?

[TrifeLife]

millions or a good 'red pill' mother? Take the mother

millions or some empowered cock carousel rider? give me the millions

[dongiovanni]

He's a fag. Using surrogates is also disgusting.

[Vincent Chase]

THE mother of Cristiano ­Ronaldo’s baby is a ­penniless American waitress who the football star seduced with the line: “Me, you, fuck fuck.”

Then he whisked her back to his hotel for a one-night stand which left the girl pregnant – and Ronaldo with a £10million paternity bill.

Great game indeed.

[Hoser]

I searched "me you fuck fuck" and saw a ton of articles from 2010, which I didn't read due to the sketchy URLs.

I wish I had more to say, but my underwhelmed levels are setting new rec...zzzzzz

[Barron]

(03-20-2017 04:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Amazing at how blue pill these comments are, no offense.

50% of America is born out of wedlock. I'd wager at least 50% of these kids don't even know who their father is. And the vast majority of these kids are dirt fucking poor.

Considering how much of the world is born into a horrible struggle without even knowing their father, yet you guys act like not knowing the Mom in exchange for a few millions is a big deal?

Time to have some perspective.

Hurray!! I'm so Blue-Pill I permanently relocated to Ukraine.

Dodging the question with name-calling, I seem to remember another political ideology that does the same.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

It does not make one Blue Pill if you claim that becoming a single father via a surrogate like a gay couple is not the ideal of family circumstance.

He can do what he wants, but that has nothing to do with Game and it also has nothing to do with being able to have a modicum of ability to pick a worthy mother for your kids.

The MGTOW and gay-couple way of reproduction via a surrogate is indeed the way to go - that is soooooooo Red Pill.

I see that some guys support this, but we have to acknowledge who else supports this as well. Let me put it this way? Would you see Roosh try and do this, then spend his days changing diapers and being a single dad with a screaming toddler? Somehow I have trouble imagining that. Oh and wait until the kid asks who his mother was: "An egg donor. You have no mother skipper." Then don't wonder when the kid bangs 50yo cougars to compensate for this when he is 20. Yup - Red Pill and Neomasculine indeed.