[nidall]

I've been going out with the same girl for close to 2 years. She's always been stuck on me (like shes obsessed with me}. She would text me everyday without letup.

Last week I took her to a restaurant and next day she came to my house. But 2 days after, I texted her and she would reply with one word answers which she never does. She's always texted me long sentences.

Last nite I texted her. Again, the same one word answers, 'yes' 'no' or short sentences. Texts that aren't coloroful like before but plain. But last nite I asked her out and she said she didn't feel like going out. Mind you everytime I ask her out she'd go out without hesitation.

Here's the text from last nite:

Me: are you ok?
Her: I'm ok
Me: u never text.. strange of u.. lets go out tonite.
Her: I dont feel like going out tonite.
Me: sounds like u dont want to see me.
Her: youre a genius.
Me: did I do smg wrong to u?
Her: No. I just dont want to go out tonite.
Me: ok no prob
Her: hows ur day
Me: good. I went to the park at lunch break. and ur day?
Her: I enjoyed the weather.
Me: ur not the only one who did.
Her: i know. Have a nice nite Chris.
Me: if you dont want to see me whatever.. bye.

This is a huge mystery that doesn't make any sense. I really don't get it at all. I am confused. Can someone shed light on this shit considering we had a good time last week and she always texts me everyday?

[Rocha]

She met other guy.

[Harami]

"Huge mystery" Either she has changed her diet or she found out about you eating elsewhere. In any case you should get up from the table before she does. Go cold turkey on her.

[Warraghiyagey]

She's in the wind. Ghost her....

[XPQ22]

You came off as ultra-needy in that exchange. Also seems like a conversation between eight year olds.

Quote:

Me: sounds like u dont want to see me.
Her: youre a genius.

Assuming she has no legitimate reason on your side to be angry (does she?) it's a very hostile response when you seemed to be being perfectly civil - worthy of a "soft next" immediately, right there. Wow, hold up bitch, whaaaat? You come hit me up when you've figured out whatever your issue is, lady. Talking time is over for now.

Try to keep your frame, even with LTRs, because that exchange was what I'd call "frame free."

This girl would've come running back in two days apologizing if you'd simply said, in essence: "I'm sorry you're unhappy right now, but I don't need to take abuse from you" then ghosted her ass.

Also keep in mind that if she was "obsessed" with you for as long as you say she was, and then treats you in this fashion, then at some level you have to recognize that you didn't actually know what you were dealing with. If she keeps on in this way, whether it was because she met another guy or who knows, understand that what you're dealing with now was probably the real bitch all along, not the starry-eyed clinger.

In my own experience once a branch-swinger starts the discard process in favor of a new target, and becomes abusive there's no going back. No amount of kind words or empathy will ever pull the old girl out.

[ExploringReality]

(02-25-2017 10:18 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

She met other guy.

This.

I've been when you are right now. A couple of things:

1. She's not obsessed with you, she's obsessed with having a boyfriend.
2. You have a weak frame, considering your text exchange.

These kind of girls are out there, serial monogamists...They really make you feel like they are obsessed with YOU, but in reality they just HATE being alone. She's going to dump you for this other guy soon enough. Even if you go ghost on her you will only buy time, so I would start going after new girls and dumping this one.

Now, we might be wrong and I might be projecting my experience on you but...it is extremely similar to what happened to me. Good luck bro.

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 11:17 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 10:18 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

She met other guy.

This.

I've been when you are right now. A couple of things:

1. She's not obsessed with you, she's obsessed with having a boyfriend.
2. You have a weak frame, considering your text exchange.

These kind of girls are out there, serial monogamists...They really make you feel like they are obsessed with YOU, but in reality they just HATE being alone. She's going to dump you for this other guy soon enough. Even if you go ghost on her you will only buy time, so I would start going after new girls and dumping this one.

Now, we might be wrong and I might be projecting my experience on you but...it is extremely similar to what happened to me. Good luck bro.

Ok, the frame wasn't as you said, "weak" nor "strong." I think you miss the point that I said this was a 2 year relationship. I think youre confuing this issue with the typical frame you run on a girl a day after you meet her on the street. This is text conversation you don't expect in a healthy 2 year LTR so one would exhibit a "relationship frame" if you understand me.

[Hoser]

What's your idea of "LTR"? Was she your girlfriend? It doesn't sound like it. If she was your gf, did she know it?

[Hoser]

Also

"Me: sounds like u dont want to see me.
Her: youre a genius."

... is about as "It's over" as it gets. When she said "Have a nice nite", she may as well have said. "Have a nice life."

You might consider texting her "Feeling better today?" If she doesn't respond with an apology, say "Okay, then." and leave it at that. No more contact until she gets her head on straight and decides to tell you as much.

In the meantime, tell yourself "I refuse to play female head games." and mean it. Realize that women can turn off their attraction to you in an instant, even if you can't. Go get some quality arm candy and enjoy the rebound. In fact, that might be a decent opener: "My girlfriend started acting weird, so I bounced. Don't have patience for that shit. You're cute..."

[Harami]

Hoser

[Hoser]

Your point, Harambe?

[Harami]

It just goes with:
What's your idea of "LTR"? Was she your girlfriend? It doesn't sound like it. If she was your gf, did she know it

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 11:56 AM)Hoser Wrote:  

What's your idea of "LTR"? Was she your girlfriend? It doesn't sound like it. If she was your gf, did she know it?

What kind of question is that? Did you read my OP? We've been seeing each other for 2 years. Of course she was my girlfriend.

[Off The Reservation]

(02-25-2017 11:45 AM)nidall Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 11:17 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 10:18 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

She met other guy.

This.

I've been when you are right now. A couple of things:

1. She's not obsessed with you, she's obsessed with having a boyfriend.
2. You have a weak frame, considering your text exchange.

These kind of girls are out there, serial monogamists...They really make you feel like they are obsessed with YOU, but in reality they just HATE being alone. She's going to dump you for this other guy soon enough. Even if you go ghost on her you will only buy time, so I would start going after new girls and dumping this one.

Now, we might be wrong and I might be projecting my experience on you but...it is extremely similar to what happened to me. Good luck bro.

Ok, the frame wasn't as you said, "weak" nor "strong." I think you miss the point that I said this was a 2 year relationship. I think youre confuing this issue with the typical frame you run on a girl a day after you meet her on the street. This is text conversation you don't expect in a healthy 2 year LTR so one would exhibit a "relationship frame" if you understand me.

Are you still unemployed?

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 12:08 PM)Hoser Wrote:  

Also

"Me: sounds like u dont want to see me.
Her: youre a genius."

... is about as "It's over" as it gets. When she said "Have a nice nite", she may as well have said. "Have a nice life."

You might consider texting her "Feeling better today?" If she doesn't respond with an apology, say "Okay, then." and leave it at that. No more contact until she gets her head on straight and decides to tell you as much.

In the meantime, tell yourself "I refuse to play female head games." and mean it. Realize that women can turn off their attraction to you in an instant, even if you can't. Go get some quality arm candy and enjoy the rebound. In fact, that might be a decent opener: "My girlfriend started acting weird, so I bounced. Don't have patience for that shit. You're cute..."

Hi Hoser,

You offer very good advice. But I'm still in the dark about why she's acting like this. We've been good to each other these 2 years.

You suggested texting her "Feeling better today" to gauge her respoonse. But since I really don't know why she's being distant with me do you think I should ask her, "Is there something I did to make you act like this? I don't deserve this. Why are you acting like this?"

As I said I want to know why she's like this now. Looking forward to your respoinse and excellent advice.

[Harami]

If you want clarity, then confronting her with those questions seems like a viable option. You better not be doing this over text or get too emotional in front of her.

[ExploringReality]

There might be something you did, there might be not. Girls are like this. We all know how hard this is, and how much into your head this shit can get, but the truth is...she might not have any reason!

The text you want to send is really bad by the way. You are putting all the weight over your shoulders, blaming yourself basically. If anything, this will worsen things.

[Mufasa]

(02-25-2017 11:45 AM)nidall Wrote:  

Ok, the frame wasn't as you said, "weak" nor "strong." I think you miss the point that I said this was a 2 year relationship. I think youre confuing this issue with the typical frame you run on a girl a day after you meet her on the street. This is text conversation you don't expect in a healthy 2 year LTR so one would exhibit a "relationship frame" if you understand me.

Its weak frame 10 ways to sunday and theres only 7 days in a week lol
This is no place for your ego as a newbie. You asked for help and you were told what you did wrong.

YOU.ARE.WRONG.

Your frame was terrible. TBH if I can't tell who has the testosterone in your text exchange. If you remove the names from it you sound like a chick straight up and she could be the dude.

Asking for advice and getting defensive is a slow road to improvement and will have many thinking your a troll. WIA rep point is an indicator of that already imo. I read the OP and immediately thought "this is some chick trying to get into the mind of a man asking for advice or a troll"

Edit: I didn't offer anything constructive so here it is:

Dump this chick, get out in the field and start sharpening your tools man

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 01:21 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

Your frame was terrible. TBH if I can't tell who has the testosterone in your text exchange. If you remove the names from it you sound like a chick straight up and she could be the dude.

Ok this has nothing to do with frame, testosterone, gaming, balls or whatever you insult it. This was a LTR whose result took me by great surprise and I didn't expect. It's easy to insult someone when they're down. If you want to insult instead of helping don't comment any further.

I'll be reading other member's replies and ignoring yours from now on.

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 12:54 PM)Harami Wrote:  

If you want clarity, then confronting her with those questions seems like a viable option. You better not be doing this over text or get too emotional in front of her.

So in person I guess. Yeah that sounds like a good idea. I won't get emotional at all if this happens though.

[nidall]

(02-25-2017 12:59 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  

There might be something you did, there might be not. Girls are like this.

The text you want to send is really bad by the way. You are putting all the weight over your shoulders, blaming yourself basically. If anything, this will worsen things.

Hi ExploringReality,

The poster abover you suggested getting the truth in person. But what text do you suggest would be better? I want to know why she's like this all of a sudden. But I'd like to give her space if there's a way to get her back too.

Let me know what text you had in mind. Thanks.

[Mufasa]

Quote:

I'll be reading other member's replies and ignoring yours from now on.

...lol id expect a chick to say that...

(02-25-2017 01:39 PM)nidall Wrote:  

Ok this has nothing to do with frame, testosterone, gaming, balls or whatever you insult it. This was a LTR whose result took me by great surprise and I didn't expect. It's easy to insult someone when they're down. If you want to insult instead of helping don't comment any further.

This has everything to do with frame, testosterone, etc.
She wants to date a man, if she wanted someone that behaves and texts like a chick shed be with a lesbian instead. the game never stops and if anything people will tell you it gets harder when you enter an LTR.

You've been told

• 1. you sound needy/clingy
• 2. you have weak frame
• 3. you need to dump this chick
  

multiple times. like the wise man says:
"first time someone calls you a horse tell them to stop. The second time punch them in the face. the third time damn it you might wanna buy a saddle.."

[ExploringReality]

(02-25-2017 01:43 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 12:59 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  

There might be something you did, there might be not. Girls are like this.

The text you want to send is really bad by the way. You are putting all the weight over your shoulders, blaming yourself basically. If anything, this will worsen things.

Hi ExploringReality,

The poster abover you suggested getting the truth in person. But what text do you suggest would be better? I want to know why she's like this all of a sudden. But I'd like to give her space if there's a way to get her back too.

Let me know what text you had in mind. Thanks.

You wrote "Is there something I did to make you act like this? I don't deserve this. Why are you acting like this?". This, and the texts on the OP, is what we mean by weak frame. We're not trying to insult anyone, only to help, and...many times being upfront and direct is the way to go for men advice. At least for me, when I get "slapped" by a bro is when I see reality as it is.

You see...when I was in your situation, I was desperate and searched for a way to fix things up. This is how I discovered the manosphere, Roosh, TheRedPill, MikeCernovich, etc. I applied the knowledge I found, and, sure, I gained some time. I was able to keep on pounding the pvssy for the next 2 months but...she ended up cheating with the dude she met. So I dumped her. This is the very reason we're advocating for dumping her right now; you are only buying time, and you are going to live hell for that time you will buy (paranoia, constant worrying, self-doubt, attachment...). Now, you will probably still try to fix things, so the generic advice applies: push harder than she's doing.

One final thing, in case things go south. I'm as happy as I could be as what happened to me. It was an eye-opening experience, and made me discover many many things about myself. I'm 5 times the man I used to be since then.

[Splord]

(02-25-2017 10:05 AM)nidall Wrote:  

I've been going out with the same girl for close to 2 years. She's always been stuck on me (like shes obsessed with me}. She would text me everyday without letup.

Last week I took her to a restaurant and next day she came to my house. But 2 days after, I texted her and she would reply with one word answers which she never does. She's always texted me long sentences.

Last nite I texted her. Again, the same one word answers, 'yes' 'no' or short sentences. Texts that aren't coloroful like before but plain. But last nite I asked her out and she said she didn't feel like going out. Mind you everytime I ask her out she'd go out without hesitation.

Here's the text from last nite:

Me: are you ok?
Her: I'm ok
Me: u never text.. strange of u.. lets go out tonite.
Her: I dont feel like going out tonite.
Me: sounds like u dont want to see me.
Her: youre a genius.
Me: did I do smg wrong to u?
Her: No. I just dont want to go out tonite.
Me: ok no prob
Her: hows ur day
Me: good. I went to the park at lunch break. and ur day?
Her: I enjoyed the weather.
Me: ur not the only one who did.
Her: i know. Have a nice nite Chris.
Me: if you dont want to see me whatever.. bye.

This is a huge mystery that doesn't make any sense. I really don't get it at all. I am confused. Can someone shed light on this shit considering we had a good time last week and she always texts me everyday?

LTR worthy girls don't break up like that.
Even if you didn't realize you did something bad or she just wants to break up, if she was good enough, she wouldn't do it this way.
I'm guessing she is young and young girls act like this all the time. They don't tell you a reason and leave it to you to find out why, they just feed on the drama it creates.

As for frame:I think your frame was solid enough, you didn't use words like "honey", "please" etc., you saw a discrepancy in her behavior and asked about it directly.
In fact she texted you back after your "ok no prob".
The "ur not the only one who did." comment was actually hillarious in the sense that "my life goes on, girl, whether you are sulking or not".

[kaotic]

nidall stop acting like an arrogant child and listen to the forum.

You aren't going to like the truth's presented to you.

Mufasa is right.

(02-25-2017 01:39 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 01:21 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

Your frame was terrible. TBH if I can't tell who has the testosterone in your text exchange. If you remove the names from it you sound like a chick straight up and she could be the dude.

Ok this has nothing to do with frame, testosterone, gaming, balls or whatever you insult it. This was a LTR whose result took me by great surprise and I didn't expect. It's easy to insult someone when they're down. If you want to insult instead of helping don't comment any further.

I'll be reading other member's replies and ignoring yours from now on.

This has to do EVERYTHING with frame, whose acting like a woman, game, and having balls.

It's not an insult.

Frame - she isn't chasing you anymore, you lost the frame upkeep
Acting out - your texts bleed with needyness and passive aggressive responses, along with her.
Game - It's clear your game upkeep wasn't on point and she slipped away
Balls - Being able to say fuck it and walk away and call up other girls you've been pipelining, aka abundance mentality.

The entire text exchange was cringeworthy, you were acting needy, straight up.

"are you okay?"

That's something a chick would say dude, re read this from someone who doesn't know either of you and doesn't know whose the guy or whose the girl.

She definitely either met someone else or if you're playing the field found out somehow that you cheated on her.

Truth ? Fuck the truth.

You really want to know she's getting dicked down 3 ways till Sunday ?

CLOSURE IS FOR WOMEN.

Women can change with a flip of the light switch.

And before you tell me she's not like that, this is so strange for her blah blah blah


Let me tell you my story:

I started banging biker girl back in September/November, life was good until late January, the last time I saw her we had a great fuck session, finally got my dick in her ass, life was good.

Suddenly she got busy, stopped texting me as much, finally I did something similar to you.

I hit her up asking what was going, if everything was cool, that we were always open and honest.

She text me back saying she's just busy, her dad has cancer, works crazy, blah blah blah.

I never heard from her again, granted I fucked up by accidentally sending a buddies screenshot text about another girl to her lol.

Anyways, I stopped wondering what changed, I stopped trying to figure out the different things that could of went wrong.

I MOVED ON.

I never stopped gaming new girls, I never stopped fucking new girls, I never stopped getting new numbers.


Take my advice.


Go quiet on her, if you don't hear from her, it's over.

If you do hear from her but she doesn't want to hangout, it's over, she just wants you as a texting buddy and an orbiter.


It's time to move on to newer and green pastures.

You can read more about it here: thread-24128...pid1508808