[Ice Man]

^Seems to be:

[kamoz]

Think about this: why on earth would the (((MSM))) rally the public against one of their own (((Zuckerberg))) to the point where he’s testifying in front of congress? Especially when all he’s been doing is helping them in their agenda? Simple: he failed, just like the rest of social media.

He and Facebook are the canary in the coal mine. The Deep State has decided that social media benefits us more than it benefits them. They’re shutting it down. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of pork barrel legislation comes around that in practice prevents the formation of social media like websites. That will take care of most of the masses. Then they will come for the rest in forums like this.

[budoslavic]

(04-10-2018 04:08 PM)Once Was Not Wrote:  

Uh, is this for real?

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No wonder he's short.

[url=https://twitter.com/grahamstarr/status/885343770031554560]

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-10-2018 04:17 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

Think about this: why on earth would the (((MSM))) rally the public against one of their own (((Zuckerberg))) to the point where he’s testifying in front of congress? Especially when all he’s been doing is helping them in their agenda? Simple: he failed, just like the rest of social media.

He and Facebook are the canary in the coal mine. The Deep State has decided that social media benefits us more than it benefits them. They’re shutting it down. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of pork barrel legislation comes around that in practice prevents the formation of social media like websites. That will take care of most of the masses. Then they will come for the rest in forums like this.

Follow the money. Newspapers find "truth" when and where it's convenient to their bottom line.

The MSM recently rallied the public against Backpage.com, spouting the Feds' unsupported claims about "child trafficking." Yet before online classifieds, newspaper ran these same ads. Back then if you criticized that, they'd write editorials in support of these ads, claiming "freedom of the press" and calling their critics Moral Majority prudes. Up until about 2003-04, massage parlor ads appeared on sports pages of a lot of dailies.

The reason newspaper write a lot of what they write goes beyond left/right politics because it's ultimately about cash flow. There is probably some deal that publishers are trying to make with Facebook about story links, and they're turning up the heat on Zuck so they get the bargain end of that deal.

Most of the liberal nonsense by writers is lip service and moral preening. Look at where they live and where they send their kids to school to get the real story. Hint: It's not Southwest DC or East New York.

[rpg]

(04-10-2018 03:46 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Question to Zuck:

Does facebook consider itself a neutral public forum ?

Answer:

Cruz wrecked the Zuck.
Zuckerberg is fascinating because he has insulated himself for so long that the real world looks like a zoo exhibit to him. Deep state is going to rip his company out of his hands and put him out to pasture.

[Mercenary]

(04-10-2018 04:17 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

Think about this: why on earth would the (((MSM))) rally the public against one of their own (((Zuckerberg))) to the point where he’s testifying in front of congress? Especially when all he’s been doing is helping them in their agenda? Simple: he failed, just like the rest of social media.

He and Facebook are the canary in the coal mine. The Deep State has decided that social media benefits us more than it benefits them. They’re shutting it down. I wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of pork barrel legislation comes around that in practice prevents the formation of social media like websites. That will take care of most of the masses. Then they will come for the rest in forums like this.

It's a very good question.
Why do (((they))) suddenly turn totally against one of their own (((tribe))) ?
A large part may have to do with Trump winning the election in November 2016.

Facebook was supposed to help prevent this...but they failed miserably. In fact, I think Trump used facebook data to find out where his supporters were and which swing states to target, as well as spread damaging stories about the opposition on facebook.

Also, (((they))) want to go try to go back to a world where people can't spread alternate information & alterate news online...and try to bring it back to a system where most people get their info from (((mainstream approved))) sources only.

Ultimately, they don't want people who share the same ideas (meaning "subverse" ideas) to be talking, meeting and exchanging info. Not online, and certainly not in real life.

If all social media platforms get shut down totally sometime in the next 3 years, then this will be the starting point of it all.

[debeguiled]

I don't see what this is accomplishing. Zuckerberg gets to practice evasion and playing dumb, politicians get to grandstand.

He looked like a slimy bullshitter, but didn't really admit to anything, probably just looks at it like the cost of doing business.

Grown-ups scold little boy so older voters feel good.

Little boy lies so kids high five each other about how easy parents are to fool.

Life goes on as before.

[456]

Zuck's always doing the "Hey look, I am having 'Good Posture' right now! Hey I am still doing it!" vibe that someone who is trying really hard to Act Normal And Be Confident does.

(Remember a year or two ago, that body language expert lady had a video analyzing how Zuck clearly takes "power coaching" to appear more powerful and relaxed? She used all kinds of TV appearances to point it out. Fascinating.)

[dosequis]

(03-27-2018 02:44 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  

I dont get all the hate for Mark. No one is being forced to use facebook. Dont hate the player, hate the game.

Agree. I mean he seems like a normal and very likeable guy regardless of the different stories you hear. Still got his feet on the ground. If most of us had the same amount of fuck you money we would probably be fucking horrible to deal with.

[Mercenary]

(04-10-2018 06:08 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

Agree. I mean he seems like a normal and very likeable guy regardless of the different stories you hear.

[kaotic]

"Senator...."

[dosequis]

(04-10-2018 06:12 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 06:08 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

Agree. I mean he seems like a normal and very likeable guy regardless of the different stories you hear.

You don't think? The normal engineer/programmer type I maybe should have said. I hang around guys like that at work. They have high IQ and can be interesting if you hit the right subject. He's also a great businessman and he always speaks nice and polite in interviews, not like some DJ douchebag.

I'd love to have a conversation with him.

[Mercenary]

(04-10-2018 06:24 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

You don't think? The normal engineer/programmer type I maybe should have said. I hang around guys like that at work. They have high IQ and can be interesting if you hit the right subject. He's also a great businessman and he always speaks nice and polite in interviews, not like some DJ douchebag.

I'd love to have a conversation with him.

Are you gonna vote for him when he runs for president too ?

[dosequis]

(04-10-2018 06:42 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 06:24 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

You don't think? The normal engineer/programmer type I maybe should have said. I hang around guys like that at work. They have high IQ and can be interesting if you hit the right subject. He's also a great businessman and he always speaks nice and polite in interviews, not like some DJ douchebag.

I'd love to have a conversation with him.

Are you gonna vote for him when he runs for president too ?

?

[Bienvenuto]

(04-10-2018 06:24 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 06:12 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 06:08 PM)dosequis Wrote:  

Agree. I mean he seems like a normal and very likeable guy regardless of the different stories you hear.

You don't think? The normal engineer/programmer type I maybe should have said. I hang around guys like that at work. They have high IQ and can be interesting if you hit the right subject. He's also a great businessman and he always speaks nice and polite in interviews, not like some DJ douchebag.

I'd love to have a conversation with him.

I think he's a dirty, snide little cunt.. sitting there scrambling, "senator.. senator", on every answer while his team visibly shit themselves behind him.

I've sat in in on a few criminal trials and he wouldn't be treated this lightly for his 'creative' answers in those courtrooms.

The 5'7"/cushion thing is interesting. He seems to have a legit height complex.

[budoslavic]

[url=https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/983817794524364805][/url]

[monster]

I admit I wanted to really dislike Zuckerberg from the clips I've seen (about 20 min worth) of his testifying. But he came across really, really balanced, diplomatic and just very well all across I thought.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-10-2018 07:34 PM)monster Wrote:  

I admit I wanted to really dislike Zuckerberg from the clips I've seen (about 20 min worth) of his testifying. But he came across really, really balanced, diplomatic and just very well all across I thought.

Then again...

[url=https://twitter.com/BravingRuin/status/983775963199746048][/url]

[rpg]

He doesnt want anyone to know where he stayed last night and who he talks to. Enough said. He is a fuckstick of the highest order.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Cruz has really grown into a stellar shitlord since the election. Assuming he didn't start cucking on open borders again, I'd have no problem supporting him in 2024.

Zuckerberg looks surprisingly uncomfortable and off the balance. I thought this whole thing was going to be just for show with the person on the stand getting away with all sorts of bullshit without ever getting called out, similar to Hillary Clinton's hearings over Benghazi.

[CynicalContrarian]

Gives new meaning to the notion of sex robots...

[url=https://twitter.com/RodStryker/status/983844493588881411][/url]

[Dragan]

If Zuck is running for president, his position has gotten progressively worse since this scandal broke, also he won't get it because he's 5-7"--way too short.

This stuff will be bad for facebook and all, they're loosing some of their market cap, but they're basically monopoly that is also conveniently valued by the deep state. They're not going anywhere.

Yes, they may pass privacy legislation or regulation, but it will be backed by all the major Silicon Valley players, just as all other tech legislation has been.

People want a free facebook, and implementing a paid facebook is never going to happen with Zuc as CEO (and he's not going to resign because of his ownership of a majority of voting shares). Facebook's model is free so they can suck up all the data. This was known the whole time, people just weren't outraged, because Trump hadn't won yet.

[CynicalContrarian]

^
Yeah in regards to POTUS bids, Billy Boy got away with so much shite, due to his ability to charm an audience.
Where-as Zuck-Bot...? The more folk see of this kid, the less they'll find any appeal.

Never mind that this Senate hearing may not amount to anything tangible.

[url=https://twitter.com/getongab/status/983851900410855425][/url]

[Belgrano]

Facebook Has Dozens of Ex-Obama and Ex-Hillary Staffers in Senior Positions

Quote:

During his recent apology tour, Mark Zuckerberg notably failed to mention recent revelations about the Obama 2012 campaign’s exploitation of the platform’s weak pre-2014 data protections to harvest masses of data from non-consenting users. The number of ex-Obama staffers on his payroll, according to Linkedin, might explain why.

The establishment media narrative on the Facebook data scandal hit a snag last month. They hoped the story would be restricted to Cambridge Analytica, a data analytics firm that they linked to the Cruz and Trump campaigns, and their alleged misuse of data. But a bigger story soon emerged, linked to a longtime media favorite: Barack Obama.

By the admission of Barack Obama’s former media analytics director, Carol Davidsen, the former president hoovered up far more data without users’ consent in 2012, when Facebook’s data policies were (as Facebook now concedes) far more vulnerable to exploitation than they were in 2016.

Mark Zuckerberg admits that, prior to its strengthening of user protections in 2014, Facebook made a critical error in allowing third-party apps to harvest data not just from users who gave them consent, but from their non-consenting friends. What he didn’t mention was the digital campaigning tools developed by Obama for America were among the apps that took advantage of this loophole.

In the words of Carol Davidsen, who oversaw data analytics at Obama for America in 2012, the campaign was “actually able to ingest the entire social network of the U.S.” Davidsen made these comments publicly as early as 2015, but they received little attention at the time.

In the wake of the Cambridge Analytica story, Davidsen made another bombshell admission on social media — that Facebook representatives visited the Obama campaign offices after the 2012 election and told them they were allowed to get away with it because “they were on their side.”

In retrospect, this shouldn’t be surprising. Obama’s 2012 campaign staff and his subsequent White House team included several former employees of top Silicon Valley companies. After working for Obama, many of these employees returned to Facebook, some of whom now occupy senior positions at the company, according to their Linkedin profiles. They include:

• David Recordon, former Director of IT for Obama’s White House. Recordon was Engineering Director at Facebook prior to his role at the White House, and returned to the position after the 2016 election. He is currently Engineering Director for the Chan-Zuckerberg initiative.
• David Ploufe, President, Policy and Advocacy for the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative. Campaign Manager for Obama in 2008, and still sits on the board of the Obama Foundation.
• Josh W. Higgins, currently Executive Creative Director at Facebook. Formerly Design Director at Obama for America.
• Aneesh Raman, currently on the Economic Opportunity team at Facebook. Formerly held a number of positions in the Obama White House, including speechwriter to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Associate Director for Strategic Communication at the Department of Defence, and Speechwriter to the President.
• Lauryn Ogbechie, currently manager of Facebook’s Education Partnerships Team. Formerly Digital Organizing Manager at Obama for America.
• Danielle Cwirko-Godycki, Leadership Recruiting at Facebook, formerly a volunteer at Hillary for America and a fellow at Organizing for America.
• Meredith Carden, currently on Facebook’s News Integrity team. Formerly worked at the office of Michelle Obama for two years.
• Sarah Pollack, currently Associate Manager for Policy Communications at Facebook. Formerly directed media logistics at Hillary for America, and worked as a Press Advance Associate at the Obama White House. The first work experience listed on her Linkedin profile is an internship at the Clinton Global Initiative.
• Ben Forer, Strategic Partner Development at Facebook. Formerly a New Media Intern in the Obama White House and a Social Media Specialist at the Clinton Foundation.
• Bonnie Calvin, currently works as a curator for the Facebook GMS summits. Was previously selected by the Obama White House to curate their “Maker Faire” in 2014, aimed at celebrating “makers and builders and doers across the country.”
• Juliane Sun, Intellectual Property Analyst at Facebook, formerly oversaw verification requests at Instagram. Worked as an International Trade Assistant in Obama’s Department of Commerce.
• Anthea Strong, Project Manager for News at Facebook. Deputy Regional Field Director for the Obama campaign in 2007-08, and Project Manager for Voter Experience for the Obama campaign in 2011-12.
• William Elliott, Marketing at Oculus VR, owned by Facebook. Formerly a Community Organizer at Obama for America.
• Nureen Ehab Khadr, Marketing Specialist, Middle East & North Africa. Formerly an Organizing Fellow at Organizing for America.
• David Kaufman, Marketing Lead, Building 8, Facebook. Formerly worked at the U.S. Digital Service in the Obama White House.
• Sean Patrick Murphy, Talent Adviser and Recruiter at Facebook. Formerly a canvasser at Obama for America and an activist trainer for the Bernie Sanders campaign.
• Veronica Rocha, Contracts Administrator at Facebook. Formerly Organizing Fellow at Obama for America.
• Giselle Hale, currently Director for Media Partnerships Product at Facebook. She was a regional field director for Obama for America in 2007-08.
• Melissa Lano, who has held multiple senior roles at Facebook including Associate Manager on International Elections in 2012, where she worked on the American presidential election. Formerly a precinct manager at Obama for America in 2008.
• Mercedes Krimme, multiple roles at Facebook including Project Data Integrity specialist, where she helped launch Facebook’s civic engagement tools, including Town Hall, Civic Checkup, and Voter Guide. Formerly a field organizer at Organizing for America.
• Matthew Holleque, Research Science Manager at Facebook. Formerly Deputy Statistical Modeling Director at Obama for America.
• Rachel Jamail, Site Lead at Facebook. Formerly consulted with the office of FLOTUS Michelle Obama on “high-priority marketing initiatives.” Formerly a board member of the Anti-Defamation League.
• Jane Lee, Strategy and Communications Lead at Facebook. Formerly Deputy Chief Operating Officer at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management in the Obama White House, and Finance and Operations Budget Manager at Obama for America.
• Zach Stubenvoll, Creative Director at Facebook. Formerly Designer / Print Lead at Obama for America.
• Zaid Zaid, Public Policy, Strategic Response at Facebook, formerly Associate White House Counsel.
• Nathaniel Kerksick, Product Design Manager for Social Good at Facebook. Formerly Art Director and Designer at Obama for America.
• Francesca de Quesada Covey, Head of Jobs and Service Partnerships at Facebook, formerly Deputy Counselor for Strategic Engagement in the Obama White House.
• Amy Seidenwurm, Executive Producer for “Social Good” at Oculus VR, a Facebook-owned product. Formerly a Creative Projects Consultant at Obama for America.
• Kyle O’Connor, Executive Communications at Facebook, formerly Presidential Speechwriter at the White House.
• Sharon Yang, Government & Politics Outreach at Facebook. Formerly Gen44 Finance Director at Obama for America.
• Melanie Roe, Technology Communications at Facebook, previously worked for Democratic presidential candidates and Democratic administrations since the Kerry campaign in 2004.
• Brett Brownell, Content Strategist at Facebook, previously worked as Deputy New Media Director for Pennsylvania in Obama’s 2008 campaign. Also worked for MSNBC and Mother Jones.
• Ryan Bushek, Technical Program Manager at Facebook. Formerly Operations Director, Florida for Obama for America.
• Christine Turner, head of Global Policy at WhatsApp, a Facebook acquisition. Held multiple roles in the Obama White House between 2008 and 2016.
• David Ginsberg, currently Director of UX and Strategic Research at Facebook. Formerly debate prep lead for Vice President Joe Biden in 2012.
• Matthew Warshauer, currently Head of “Data Science for Social Good” at Facebook. Warshauer was an intern at Obama for America, working on paid media analytics.
  

Hillary for America:

• Emilio Tamez, currently performs “custom research” at Facebook on behalf of advertisers. Formerly worked as an experiments analyst for Hillary for America.
• Joel Cohen, Client Solutions Manager for Travel at Facebook. Formerly Senior Manager for Digital Advertising at Hillary for America in 2016, and a Digital Advertising Strategist at Obama for America in 2012. In between the two campaigns, he also worked at Facebook.
• Ritu Sharma, currently the Emerging Worlds Liaison at Facebook. Formerly a member of the National Finance Committee for Hillary for America.
• Andrew Forrest, currently works in Partnerships Analytics for Facebook. Previously worked as Head of Audience Development at Hillary for America.
• Ashley Woolheater, currently Public Policy Lead at Oculus VR. Formerly Policy Chief of Staff at Hillary for America.
• Nellwyn Thomas, currently works in Data Science for Facebook. Formerly Deputy Chief Analytics Officer at Hillary for America.
• Emily Hahn, currently a Product Marketing Manager at Facebook. Formerly a Senior Product Manager at Hillary for America.
• Crystal Patterson, currently Government & Politics Outreach Manager at Facebook. Formerly Communications Director at the Center for American Progress and worked in Online Communications at Hillary for America.
• Marcus Raimondi, currently a Client Solutions Manager at Facebook. Formerly a Digital Advertising Strategist at Hillary for America.
  

In total, we found 45 employees who had previously worked or volunteered with the Hilary campaigns, the Obama campaigns, or the Obama White House and are now employed by Facebook, Facebook-owned companies, or the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative. This does not include Facebook employees who do not have Linkedin accounts or neglected to mention past experience on their profiles.

Our search for former Romney staffers or campaign volunteers who currently work at Facebook returned just seven profiles. A search for McCain staffers returned one profile, who also appeared on the Romney list. A search for staffers from the George W. Bush administration or presidential campaigns returned three profiles. A search for former Trump staffers returned zero profiles —unless you count the Facebook industry insights lead who interned at Ivanka Trump’s company in 2012.

The upper echelons of Silicon Valley companies are awash with Obama alumni. Former members of the administration have ended up in senior positions, or as board members of Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, Twitter, Nest, and Square, among other companies.

Facebook’s ties to the Obama White House are similar to that of Google, which also appeared to have a revolving-door relationship with the former administration. Andrew Breitbart once wrote of the “Democrat-media complex.” Clearly, there now exists a “Democrat-Silicon Valley complex” as well.

Facebook denies Carol Davidsen’s claim that the company gave the Obama campaign any special favors in 2012. A Facebook spokeswoman said, “both the Obama and Romney campaigns had access to the same tools, and no campaign received any special treatment from Facebook.”

"Neutral public forum" my ass.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-10-2018 05:12 PM)rpg Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 03:46 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Question to Zuck:

Does facebook consider itself a neutral public forum ?

Answer:

Cruz wrecked the Zuck.
Zuckerberg is fascinating because he has insulated himself for so long that the real world looks like a zoo exhibit to him. Deep state is going to rip his company out of his hands and put him out to pasture.

That's still nothing. The very term hate-speech is an Orwellian term. He also used the term safe space which is also unlimited in scope.

Is telling a story how you have been raped in your street by a migrant in Europe hate speech? Yes - Facebook would ban it instantly and report you for the authorities.

Is creating an Antifa group and then calling for armed revold and violent suppression of Trump supporters hate speech? No - they are all good boys and girls.

Seriously - the term hate-speech should not even exist. Even if someone opens up an anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, anti-Atheist, anti-dogs or anti-gay page, then they should be allowed to do so as long as they don't call for direct violence against individual groups.

Hate and safe space are terms which can ban anything and anyone!

But I don't expect the Republicans to hit him hard with that, because they are one and the same as far as I am concerned.

Also - Facebook should begin to be treated as a public utility at this level. There are natural monopolies in certain businesses. Facebook should effectively be forced to return accounts and have previously banned non-illegal and not dangerous content come back - also FB should pay a fine in each case. People should have a legal recourse just as Google has sometimes blocked some people's gmail account for purely ideological reasons (Jordan Peterson had to fight to get it back).