[sterling_archer]

They surely didn't saw all the time. They had ceremonies and maybe occasional vision here and there, probably through dreams.

[Mercenary]

(01-21-2017 01:02 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

They surely didn't saw all the time. They had ceremonies and maybe occasional vision here and there, probably through dreams.

I read that back in the day (100 to 1000 years ago) nutrient deficiencies in people in winter time (due to lack of food) and/or long term fasting for religious reasons causes people to have visions.

What is fascinating however, is that in the past different people (living in the same place) had visions of more or less the exact same demons. That is why they started putting them in their temples and churches...cause many different people saw very similiar things at different times.

[sterling_archer]

Visions of Virgin Mary were probably induced by mushrooms. These caves associated with this visions were ancient shamanistic places that had plenty of mushrooms and it is big possibility hungry and sickly children had eaten them and experienced collective experience.
Also Virgin Mary is same thing that was described by the Irish as Woman in White or even fairy.

[Zep]

(01-21-2017 02:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

As for demons try DMT...then come back and tell me none of that exists.
Here's an example of what will happen when you leave your body and meet the demons:

Sounds like these two above visited this place: ( go full-screen hi-res on this one )

[Matsufubu]

Well, if anything can be taken from this thread, it's Roosh's next book: 'Roosh V: Bang Hell'.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-21-2017 12:53 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 12:47 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

It is a possibility that modern food produces effect of numbing spiritual experiences but I am yet to find which specific chemicals could do that. There is constant talk about flouride but I don't know if its convincing.

There are methods to avoid flouride like only drinking mineral water, using non flouride toothpaste, putting filters on your shower, and using Reverse Osmosis or Distillation for your cooking water. Maybe if we all did that we would start seeing the things our ancestors saw all the time.

Rainwater user and non-fluoride toothpaste user, here.

Nope.

[Hoser]

The two top CERN guys are on record saying they want to open a portal to another dimension. One said he wanted to send a person into it--or see if anything comes out of it.

This is serious shit these guys are contemplating. Add to this all the occult symbology, and ceremony, at CERN, and it's clear there's more than just "understanding atoms" as the goal.

[spokepoker]

No, this is not serious shit. This is just a fun fantasy to pontificate about, nothing more.

Good luck to those guys working at CERN on answering the great questions of the universe, and the advancement of the human race.

[Hoser]

Whatever helps you sleep at night....

[Number one bummer]

(01-21-2017 02:00 PM)Zep Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 02:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

As for demons try DMT...then come back and tell me none of that exists.
Here's an example of what will happen when you leave your body and meet the demons:

Sounds like these two above visited this place: ( go full-screen hi-res on this one )

The women in the center are riding an actual cock carousel.

[EDantes]

The OP sounds too "Alex Jones", but there's an interesting quote from British Sci-Fi author Clarke's Three Laws:

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

In fact, studying cultures around the world and what their actual notions of "magic and sorcery were", it's actually arguable that many fringe sciences and technologies are more or less a modern version of "witchcraft" or socerery". Demonic possession for example, wasn't viewed as a literal physical demon with a pitchfork 'possessing people', but was more of a way of explaining mental illness and how abnormal thought processes could 'possess' people's minds and make them behave erratically.

When most people think of "magic" today, they think of a magician waving a magic wand, but actually it seems that a lot of older cultures didn't view "magic" as something literally "supernatural", as in contradicting the laws of physics.

They viewed it more as fringe uses of technology or knowledge for deviant ends or practices, a la Josef Mengele's scientific experiments. It's also worth nothing that modern sciences such as chemistry descended from alchemy, and astronomy from astrology. (Technology in the broadest sense, doesn't just include 'electronics' or high technology, but any form of applied science, such as psychological or media manipulation).

So the notion of a "hard distinction" between "magic and science" is actually fallacious, and more of just a modern notion.

https://christiantruther.com/end-times/s...tact-lens/

[Geomann180]

I operate as if the world is round but I do enjoy these flat earth and hadron collider posts.

It's just something interesting to think about and as long as it stays in their respective threads, why not?

Wouldn't be the first thing I was lied to about.

G

[Elster]

(01-21-2017 02:00 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Sounds like these two above visited this place: ( go full-screen hi-res on this one )

That is bloody twisted amazing!
It reminds me of a combination of videogame sprites taken from games like PST,Sanitarium and Diablo (all 90's titles btw) all mixed together in a Bosco sauce!

[debeguiled]

(01-21-2017 08:14 AM)etwsake Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 03:10 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

The last book of the Holy Bible (Revelation) talks about the end of the world when all the demons emerge from the inside of the earth.

I don't go advertising it on this forum, cause it's not a popular opinion, but I don't believe in the bible or god or any of that.

Is there a higher power? I don't know. I'm just a person. I get to exist for a little while and then I'll be dead. But I'm at least humble enough to admit that I don't really know ANYTHING and my life is so small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things it can't really be stated in words.

Do you realize you sound like an insane person? If you believe even a fraction of what you're posting you are out of your goddamn mind. And very, very gullible.

"Demons"...."revelation".....DMT unlocking the Machine Elves that exist on another plane. Sure. All that stuff could be real. I suppose anything is possible. I'm not gonna sit here and say I know for a FACT that there isn't an invisible demon waiting just outside of my perception wanting to eat my soul.

But you sound like an unhinged lunatic by insisting that this stuff is TRUE.

You are taking the fun out of all of this.

[LionHound]

I hope the aliens/demons look like this
   

[Alpharius]

I went on a tour of a dark matter/cosmic ray lab a while back, awesome place. Lots of dead bats everywhere because they'd fly down the mine tunnel and couldn't get back out. The only demonic entity I encountered was the chick who was there on the tour with me.

[Vaun]

(01-20-2017 10:17 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

The Nephilim were most likely the giant monster demon-human hybrids mentioned in the "Book of Enoch" (which was written before Noah's flood). That text is still part of the Ethiopian bible today. God made the world expand from the inside, splitting the continents very suddenly and flooded the entire world destroying these monsters. The same thing God will do now if these demons come through wormhole portal known as the the Hadron Collider.

A few years ago they found real life remains of the Nephilim which are known as the Paracas skulls.

Here the real skeletons you can see for yourself in Peru:

The Giants conspiracy has always intrigued me, considering the American folklore on the topic.

The Giant Skeletons Found in the Midwest
Skeletons Of Giants Found In Midwest Mounds
Giant Nephilim Skeleton With More Teeth than Modern Humans Discovered in Morrow County, Ohio Burial Mound

Merc - how do you explain these skeletons being found all over the globe, and the conspiracy that they have been kept hush hush for the most part. Out of control Christian fundamentalists, or something else?

[YoungBlade]

C'mon y'all, really?

https://infogalactic.com/info/Artificial...eformation

[NovaVirtu]

(01-23-2017 09:13 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 10:17 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

The Nephilim were most likely the giant monster demon-human hybrids mentioned in the "Book of Enoch" (which was written before Noah's flood). That text is still part of the Ethiopian bible today. God made the world expand from the inside, splitting the continents very suddenly and flooded the entire world destroying these monsters. The same thing God will do now if these demons come through wormhole portal known as the the Hadron Collider.

A few years ago they found real life remains of the Nephilim which are known as the Paracas skulls.

Here the real skeletons you can see for yourself in Peru:

The Giants conspiracy has always intrigued me, considering the American folklore on the topic.

The Giant Skeletons Found in the Midwest
Skeletons Of Giants Found In Midwest Mounds
Giant Nephilim Skeleton With More Teeth than Modern Humans Discovered in Morrow County, Ohio Burial Mound

Merc - how do you explain these skeletons being found all over the globe, and the conspiracy that they have been kept hush hush for the most part. Out of control Christian fundamentalists, or something else?

I've been reading about this on and off for a while.

When I was in Peru I stopped by Paracas and visited a musuem where you can see some of these skulls in person. It's co-managed by a guy named Brian Foerster, an alternative historian who has appeared on the History Channel's Ancient Aliens and other programs.

His argument was more or less that the Paracas culture practiced cranial deformation but that it was perhaps inspired an earlier civilzation that represented an extinct phenotype of humans (deep auburn hair- not a trait indigenous Peruvians are known for) and possible skulls that were naturally elongated. In the case of the Paracas people, different skull shapes corresponded with different social castes/roles.

He also did some work with this guy L.A. Marzulli who is on youtube, and approaches the skulls from the Biblical/Nephelim angle.

There was a cute girl from a local university there studying the skulls to take DNA samples, but I'm not sure if anything has come of it. Running tests on ancient DNA is aparently extremely expensive. And no- I did not get the bang.

EDIT: 500th post! To celebrate Imma pop some DMT, and run some serious Machine Elf Game on those CERN bitches before I give 'em that Large Hard-on Collider.

[Valentine]

Interesting thread, but it's an unorganised amalgamation of many different fringe theories ranging from demons to DMT to alien beings in ancient Egypt so it's unsurprising most responses here are very skeptical.

Some posters here don't even believe in "conspiracy theories" which have far more physical evidence to support them:

(01-21-2017 02:46 AM)etwsake Wrote:  

I love a good conspiracy theory. They're fun. I like the good ones, not the bullshit ones like "Sandy Hook never happened."

I've yet to see a convincing rebuttal for the arguments presented:

(01-21-2017 11:38 AM)zatara Wrote:  

Magic elves, demons, portals to hell, vast global scientific conspiracies... just wow.

We already know there are multiple global scientific conspiracies:

(01-13-2017 10:41 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

..

I think that I am going to put up a major thread on the topic, because when guys like BlackPigeonSpeaks are openly somehow decrying that we as a human species have reached the end of creativity due to a stalemate of technology (cars unchanged, no space exploration etc.), then I have to vomit in my mouth frankly.

Back when I used to research suppressed science I found the following fields were utterly manipulated:

+ various geo-magnetic super-cheap energy inventions that can generate energy with the moving magnetic field of earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmYqUSDch8
+ points toward magnetic propulsion machines and antigravity (little info on that, but possible enough that it may be true, since they would fight it tooth and nail or they can kiss goodbye their oil scam, their energy restriction scam, their water scam, their global warming scam
+ geology: oil being of mineral and not fossil origin
+ catastrophism vs the current consensus of eon-long continent creations
+ medicine:
- pleomorphism - would change the current virus/bacteria mania and utterly revolutionize medicine
- bio-morphic fields and morphic resonance
- RIFE frequency machine that easily targets any virus via a specialized frequency (they even had tests done in the 1940s with notable doctors and various machines were operational up until the 1960s when the FBI confiscated them all - there are interviews of the doctors who used them)
- space travel via sound and frequency waves
- weather manipulation via HAARP machines (no big secret - I saw the UN treaties from the 1970s which forbade the use of those technologies against other countries, but not their own populations)

This is not the end of creativity or science. It should mean the end of manipulated science.

Do you really think that psychologists are uncapable of studying gender differences and studying the art of seduction and Game as we call it here? Do you really think that they cannot divise studies to prove Game 100%?

Nah - currently scientists can barely say that there are just two genders and that women are less interested in technology - actually they cannot even say that wihout getting fired or shunned as shitlords.

Jeez - I am all for science, but seriously in science you should have 10.000 mad geniuses working on absolutely crazy theories and getting funding - and not firing them when they oppose the 51% consensus. Also the consensus should not be found due to considerations like:
+ how much are we going to lose if he makes combustion engines obsolete?
+ how much will population increase and how much will we lose when he actually cures cancer at rates of 100%?

..

At any rate I'd be curious to see an indepth targeted thread on ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia as I don't believe the mainstream narrative on that is entirely sound.

Regarding the LHC - it's clear that even some CERN scientists are hopeful that this sort of event could happen which gives me pause given their level of expertise in this field. But at the same time there's still the chance that anything unpredicted could happen, and just as much likelihood that nothing could happen at all.

[iknowexactly]

(01-20-2017 03:10 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

For fuck sake dude, if you want a portal to the demon world, you go into your bathroom with the lights off and say 'bloody mary, bloody mary, bloody mary' and wait for said demon to appear. No need to build a billion-dollar facility

+1 rep point for Mercenary for truly imaginative and paranoid movie script idea. I will co-write a spec script for points only.

I never met a conspiracy theory I didn't like, but this is truly art.

[Hoser]

Lionhound, let's bump knuckles. Liara was so damned fine. First fictional character I've ever had a thing for.

[zero1]

Just to play the devil's advocate (no pun intended). Many people are saying these "entities" from DMT or psilocybin mushroom trips could be demons etc deceiving us. What's to say that what you believe as "God" is not an illusion/deception by some entity? Are we really so smart and knowledgeable about esoteric realms if they do even exist, to know that the abrahamic God is truly "the" benevolent, omnipotent loving creator of the universe? Remember in the Old Testament that this "God" proved his existence with magic tricks. Turning sticks into snakes. Lighting wood without a match, parting the sea etc. Local and very specific things.

Even more recently, Our Lady of Fatima caught my interest. I researched this incident because I actively seek a single piece of evidence of a single supernatural thing (which I've yet to find). The "skeptic" explanation for this experience was supposedly sun-gazing causing hallucinations (since people saw the sun dancing and change colors). I think this explanation is unsatisfactory, but again what really happened at least to me remains unknown. It's easy to accept one explanation or the other (a miracle by Mary, or sun-gazing), but perhaps the truth is something else entirely. Why would an omnipotent God not change the sun for the entire world to see for those few moments? Why just within a 16 mile radius or so? This shows the sun didn't actually do anything, but that it was a local illusion, if it even did happen. And a poor illusion at that. Why something so insignificant as the sun changing colors and spinning? This was the supposed "miracle" that occurred on the third day. Why would the master and creator of the universe make a spinning sun the great miracle to show the 100,000 people or so in attendance? If this really did happen, this sounds to me more like the work of an entity, good or bad, but one that isn't as powerful as it says it is.

I was born a Christian but after intense self-reflection I saw atheism/agnostic skepticism as the only logical path to take. This wasn't out of any hatred to God, I very much wanted him to exist. I'd be happy if a god, "God" or eternal being existed, but I have yet to see a single piece of evidence showing such. I thought throughout the first 20 years of my life that the evidence was extensive, but upon true, inner impartial examination, I found that not a single piece of that evidence was actually demonstrably true beyond a reasonable doubt. How about the language of tongues? Why would two people interpret the same message differently, or why can't two people in separate rooms receive the same message? There is no controlled, double-blind evidence that I've come across to prove any type of supernaturalism, anywhere. I'm very much open to being proven wrong, but I'm skeptical given how most people are unable to genuinely search for the truth, instead preferring to bring their biases into their search and reach their predictable conclusions (which happens on a subconscious level if you don't actively seek out to remain impartial subconsciously).

I think science is also severely flawed, given lack of replication, publication bias, biased funding, data fabrication, and cargo cult mentality. I've yet to see however a better system than the scientific method to understand reality.

It's easy to jump to conclusions that "your God" is the one true God. To think that the ancient Greeks were just unlucky, and that "your God" is any more real than Zeus was to them, in my opinion is complete lunacy. What if neither of them existed, what if both of them existed, and what if both of them were the same entity? Three interesting possibilities to examine.

I've had two psilocybin mushroom trips so far, and the 2nd trip did in fact make me believe at the time that there were other real entities communicating with me. Now that I'm sober, I'm more inclined to believe it was just hallucination, but again I remain open to anything if the evidence presents itself. Perhaps evolution does have a path, and the 5HT-2A receptor is more than just its organic constituent atoms serving a specific social purpose via serotonin pathways. My experience with mushrooms was just too interesting and specific to dismiss as mere hallucination, such that I'm open to the possibility evolution does have a pre-determined path. I realize this is against modern scientific opinion. I'm simply open to the possibility, I don't actively believe it.

I'd never for a minute pretend to "know" the answer either way. Or state that "this one book contains all the answers". We are simple creatures and easy to mislead, despite however much we think something is true. I believe truth is more likely to be found by being humbled by that realization.

[Deluge]

Speaking as someone who knows his way around magic mushrooms including at huge doses, I have never seen any kind of entities or demons. Pardon me for being obvious but any entities you think were communicating with you were not real, you were just on drugs...

[sterling_archer]

Even though I don't agree with atheism (I believe there is something "out there"), you make valid and good points.