[Randy Antilles Mk2]

Just unplugged from the MGTOW forums, I am mid-twenties, and didn't think that MGTOW is the thing for a guy in my age group.

My story as follows,
I went into a major city the other day just looking to buy some stuff for myself. Had no idea what to expect from the store, didn't think I would be seeing a potential woman to pick-up.

My first impression of her was she was of the "Hipster" persuasion, and I really didn't think I would bother picking her up. Then I got her talking for a bit, and listened in to what she was saying.

I felt that, okay maybe she didn't have the beset ASSETS, but she's got some kind of intense fire in her. This isn't some fat girl with self-esteem issues(then again most women have self-esteem issues), this is like "Damn! You got some wicked style!". I feel like that's a beta mindset to be having towards a Woman. I am realizing my potential problems I have in terms of a mindset.

I also learned that she potentially has a boyfriend, which doesn't really phase me into the point where I think I must not have a chance. I just see as, guy's probably some blue pill bitch that has this girl to keep up appearances with his social circle.

My CRITICAL mistake was not attempting to get her number, keep in mind though I wasn't really thinking about attempting a pick-up.

My game plan though, head back into that shop and, this time get her number.

I feel I'm going to have to re-read material on the subject.

Basically what I'm asking is what game plan should I put together if I've already fucked up?

I understand though I will probably be advised to drop the whole issue with her because I was potentially too much of pussy in the first place, but hell it's not like everyday you meet your type out in the field.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Don't get emotionally caught up in this bitch.

I'm glad you've caught feelz for your virility but don't catch feelz for this chick or you'll be back on MGTOW before you can blink twice.

[tomzestatlu]

Next, next and repeat.

[Randy Antilles Mk2]

Roger that, thank you for your replies.

What I'm concerned with is going full retard and getting into a serious web of feminism considering this major city I live in.

At the same time, as much as I'm not feeling for the Woman, I can't just help it I want to explore the option to make a second pass and just extract her contact info. As much as I may possibly fail, it may be worth it to face down these Classy Women.

I'll make her the orbiter...



Also I know from my blue pill days, NOT TO MAKE IT A GOD DAMN CRUSADE.

Right now I have no good wingmen to game along side, so I have to operate as if I'm conducting a military Campaign and I'm just this simple Commando operating deep in feminist territory. And for the Record, I'm not part of the combat military, I'm just the potential guy that brings the war toys.

Like my strategy right now, is to not operate myself on multiple fronts (spinning plates) because I don't want to spread myself in the mental department too thin. Going into what was posted by Leonard D Neubache, not getting my self into a emotional trap with potential pick-ups.

And thanks to a friend of mine who discovered the Red Light District in this Major city I live in I'm covered in the Sex department. *cough*A.M.S.P*cough*

I have to say though I am having trouble with sex, I cannot perform like I'm absolutely craving sex. I've fapped to much over my life time, and it's possibly conditioned my sexual responses, but at the same time I have noticed I am not getting sex obsessed with women.

Don't take that wrong way either, like I'm some kind of Asexual freak, it's just from all that MGTOW conditioning I underwent I had break away from it.



Note for lurkers:
As much as you can read rooshV's pick up material, you cannot create into a dogma. Just get his basic idea and develop into your own style of Game.
If your very young, be as much of a pick-up artist you can, but please understand YOU ARE GROWING OLD, you will eventually have to settle down(or not). I'm not saying this to the experienced members I'm just posting this for potential young lurkers on this website

[Rhyme or Reason]

I'm not sure what I just read other than possibly the fastest meet-to-pedestalization time on the books. I realize english probably isn't your first language so I'll allow for some licence there.

So to answer your question, stop the overthinking and the comparing yourself to a military general or whatever. If you want to go back there and get her number, do it, if not, don't but if you do don't bring any of that obvious weirdness to that interaction that you've demonstrated here.

[LeoneVolpe]

(12-31-2016 03:14 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

I'm not sure what I just read other than possibly the fastest meet-to-pedestalization time on the books. I realize english probably isn't your first language so I'll allow for some licence there.

So to answer your question, stop the overthinking and the comparing yourself to a military general or whatever. If you want to go back there and get her number, do it, if not, don't but if you do don't bring any of that obvious weirdness to that interaction that you've demonstrated here.

Bingo.

OP, you're thinking way too much. Remember, this chick isn't one in a million, she's one of a million. I doubt if there's anything "special" about her -- other than her being one of the first chicks you've interacted with since dropping MGTOW. Start pursuing multiple girls, and you won't be so invested in the outcome of any one particular interaction you're having. It's called developing an "abundance mentality."

[Randy Antilles Mk2]

(12-31-2016 03:14 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

I'm not sure what I just read other than possibly the fastest meet-to-pedestalization time on the books. I realize english probably isn't your first language so I'll allow for some licence there.

So to answer your question, stop the overthinking and the comparing yourself to a military general or whatever. If you want to go back there and get her number, do it, if not, don't but if you do don't bring any of that obvious weirdness to that interaction that you've demonstrated here.

Thank you for what you have pointed out, Rhyme or Reason.

Also know English is my first language, I'm telling the you the truth, I'm just a little awkward with people on the internet. Also know I'm not a strong writer.

I've been in isolation with people because of the situation I had with my father. Understanding the rules of this website I will not go into details of the situation due to the fact is of a personal nature. Understand though it's nothing that was horrible apart from what he had to go through due to his physical condition.

My father was the one telling me to stay away from women, hence why I fell into the "going your own way" movement. From his mental conditioning and the fact of his physical condition, it led into some mental instability within me. I'm not angry with my father, I accept what has happened to me.

Up until recently, my whole situation with women had been this stand-off-ish approach. I had terrible experiences with younger women when I was in my teens.

(12-31-2016 04:08 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Bingo.

OP, you're thinking way too much. Remember, this chick isn't one in a million, she's one of a million. I doubt if there's anything "special" about her -- other than her being one of the first chicks you've interacted with since dropping MGTOW. Start pursuing multiple girls, and you won't be so invested in the outcome of any one particular interaction you're having. It's called developing an "abundance mentality."

Understood.

There's still some beta male conditioning within me that I'm trying to fight off.

[RatInTheWoods]

Always remember that there are billions of women in the world.

Many will be into you, let you fuck them and love you to bits.

Do not get onitis, but do get out there and find them.

[Randy Antilles Mk2]

Quote:

Gotta be honest here guys I invented that situation so I could better know what I should do in event like that, I've added a disclaimer at the bottom of this post. I should of edited the posts earlier but I fucked up, plus I'm new here. The MGTOW thing is true though. I have unplugged from them.

I've slowed my thinking way down.

This comes after reading some other posts, that point out that having a female friend could be a doorway into a potential network of women.

I've somewhat got my act together, I know what I will do now.

Friend-zone her...

For future reference and for anyone following this thread,

If say I go back to get her number and she (think it's called) "starts on a hamster wheel" about not giving her number out on grounds for having a boyfriend. I should just drop the subject right there and walk away? Or should I attempt a negotiation (extremely bad Idea, I feel)?

The possibly dumb idea I had, in the event she starts "hamstering", was tell her something about herself to show that I have an actual interest in getting to know her. This though makes it sound like I am beta-male. However, considering what may come from befriending her, it may be worth it to make the effort.

Right now, I'm confident I will get the result I'm looking for but, seeing how I was posting before . I have concerns. What I plan on saying to the woman is along the lines of

Quote:

"Hey I really enjoyed talking to you last time, could I get your number so we can meet up to talk more often in case you stop working here?"

Please also note that what was realized from this forum was this,
I prevented myself from doing some very possible stupid shit.

One huge stupid idea was go out and contact the store owner, not on the grounds of finding out more about this girl but, to provide some store help.

Truthfully, I want to help the store owner but, they can possibly be one of these "Anti-Redpill" types. Will not go into details why I think this.

Also tell me if anything is not clear in this post, so I can address it for you.

Quote:

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY POSTINGS WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, I MADE THE WHOLE THING UP SO I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR SOME FUTURE EVENT.

You have found the secert message, shhh! I'm covering my ass right now.

[PapayaTapper]

(01-01-2017 06:45 PM)Randy Antilles Mk2 Wrote:  

Quote:

Gotta be honest here guys I invented that situation so I could better know what I should do in event like that, I've added a disclaimer at the bottom of this post. I should of edited the posts earlier but I fucked up, plus I'm new here. The MGTOW thing is true though. I have unplugged from them.

I've slowed my thinking way down.

This comes after reading some other posts, that point out that having a female friend could be a doorway into a potential network of women.

I've somewhat got my act together, I know what I will do now.

Friend-zone her...

For future reference and for anyone following this thread,

If say I go back to get her number and she (think it's called) "starts on a hamster wheel" about not giving her number out on grounds for having a boyfriend. I should just drop the subject right there and walk away? Or should I attempt a negotiation (extremely bad Idea, I feel)?

The possibly dumb idea I had, in the event she starts "hamstering", was tell her something about herself to show that I have an actual interest in getting to know her. This though makes it sound like I am beta-male. However, considering what may come from befriending her, it may be worth it to make the effort.

Right now, I'm confident I will get the result I'm looking for but, seeing how I was posting before . I have concerns. What I plan on saying to the woman is along the lines of

Quote:

"Hey I really enjoyed talking to you last time, could I get your number so we can meet up to talk more often in case you stop working here?"

Please also note that what was realized from this forum was this,
I prevented myself from doing some very possible stupid shit.

One huge stupid idea was go out and contact the store owner, not on the grounds of finding out more about this girl but, to provide some store help.

Truthfully, I want to help the store owner but, they can possibly be one of these "Anti-Redpill" types. Will not go into details why I think this.

Also tell me if anything is not clear in this post, so I can address it for you.

Quote:

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY POSTINGS WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, I MADE THE WHOLE THING UP SO I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR SOME FUTURE EVENT.

You have found the secert message, shhh! I'm covering my ass right now.

The fact that you're still asking about what to do about this one girl proves you still don't "get it" as much as you think you do.

At least youre in the right place. Read more...post less and eventually

[SamuelBRoberts]

"DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY POSTINGS WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, I MADE THE WHOLE THING UP SO I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR SOME FUTURE EVENT."

Then you just wasted a lot of people's time.

That wasn't very nice.

[Rhyme or Reason]

Quote:

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY POSTINGS WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, I MADE THE WHOLE THING UP SO I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR SOME FUTURE EVENT.

For some reason I don't buy this, but instead I think you are trying to back pedal for god knows what kind of autistic reason.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(01-01-2017 07:57 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

Quote:

DISCLAIMER: NONE OF MY POSTINGS WERE ACTUALLY TRUE, I MADE THE WHOLE THING UP SO I CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR SOME FUTURE EVENT.

For some reason I don't buy this, but instead I think you are trying to back pedal for god knows what kind of autistic reason.

Reminds me of the good ol' fashioned socially awkward kid trying to joke then starts stammering "but but guys I was just joking" while keeping a nervous smile. If anything planning for that kind of moment is if anything more autistic than the original post.

Atleast in the OP the OP seemed like he was finally a full fledged man.


So OP, stop bullshitting us and get out there. There's guys with pages worth of approaches they've logged. Start giving us a few.

[Roosh]

7 day ban for lying.