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12-23-2016, 04:45 PM
I saw this referred to in other posts, and I'm not sure I've seen it explained more, though it is understood by many on the forum.
Is it your feeling that the number of males affects the quality (demand) of the dating scene more, or the outlook and behavior of women?
I know both play a role, just wondering which of these you think is more impactful over time: the physical number of males/females, or the social (technological) factors in the dating game?
If treated in another thread significantly, apologies ahead of time.
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12-23-2016, 04:50 PM
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12-23-2016, 04:55 PM
I live near a top engineering college and the the male to female ratio is 53% to 47%. Though it could be a lot worse. Many engineers are total betas and omegas that have zero game. Really need help badly. The ratios are bad, but the competition is weak.
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12-23-2016, 06:34 PM
Australia, favors women. Ugly ham beasts I wouldn't want to touch with a pole are with men in the 6-8.5 range. I recall once I met a local guy was able to date up (he was a 7.5/8, she was a 8.5,9), but once he was caught cheating, she left him and he had to resort to 4's and 5's on Tinder and various dating sites. She then found out he was dating all kinds of ham beasts and was shocked and wondered why....turns out this girl is from Europe and doesn't understand that this is what Australian men get.
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12-23-2016, 06:44 PM
^ I've heard that about Australia before, but I was hoping it was just an exaggeration. Not so sure I'd want to spend the money to ever visit there now.
As far as my take on where the dating imbalance is felt the most in the West -- I'd have to say middle America. You see guys who are in relatively good shape from having labor intensive jobs (like farming and construction) have to settle for girls who weigh as much as the houses they're building. Sure, there are attractive girls to be found anywhere, but they're in extremely short supply in such regions where obesity is a bigger problem (no pun intended).
I don't know if there's necessarily fewer women in number, but there's certainly fewer women you'd actively want to fuck around Small Town, U.S.A.
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12-23-2016, 06:48 PM
Any place with a massive gender imbalance is going to have uglier and fatter women. Prime examples: The Bay Area in California, and Alaska. Both are total sausage fests, and the women by and large make no effort to look or act nice. Basically, to have the best possible relationship between the sexes, we both have to try hard, and an even gender ratio encourages healthy competition.
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12-23-2016, 08:46 PM
In EE countries there is a gender imbalance that helps men, due to many men dying early to alcohol and other risky behavior. Quality men are in short supply, so women compete harder to lock down a man. If there was magically a surplus of men in the FSU states, their attitudes would go downhill for sure. When left to our own devices, humans often revert to very selfish behavior unless there is some sort of natural check and balance that makes people cut out the most egregious offenses.
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12-23-2016, 09:05 PM
That graph doesn't tell the whole story. Many young men in Russia and FSU states are real alcoholics. There may be more men, but many women are reluctant to commit to them, especially the ones that act like drunk losers. So while in total numbers, it looks like it is a terrible place to find women, if you have your shit together, and speak Russian, you are easily on par with the locals, if not ahead of them.
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12-23-2016, 11:52 PM
When I was in Lithuania in late 2000s, there were more young women than men, and it was exacerbated by more males leaving to work in the UK. Kaunas and Vilnius were easily 2:1 females to males.
Perhaps the same in Russia? Roughly same amount of young men and women, but more males are likely to seek work elsewhere?
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12-25-2016, 01:18 PM
I think we're failing to see a more major cause : desperation.
Average men in the west > will hook up with a whale eventually
Average woman in the west > will demand some level of quality of the men, more if she's hot, or will wait.
The dating imbalance in the west is actually an imbalance of power and the power is who can refuse sex. Usually, it's the woman, and I know a lot of them not necessarily super hot that will prefer to wait even a year than hook up with a low quality guy. No matter how horny they are, they are better at keeping it in their pants (not all though). The guys on the other hand will drop his standards the more he is on a dry spell, he is more desperate for sex (blue balls). As a result, women have more power, especially since they get hit on a lot, which boosts their perceived value whereas a guy has to approach and will get rejections, which decreases his perceived value.
Of course an alpha man is the opposite, but they are not the majority.
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12-25-2016, 02:36 PM
The reason why we have it easier in FSU is because the girls over there are WAY better looking compared to their guys. For example in southern european countries like Greece/Portugal/Italy, the males are much better looking compared to the females hence thats why the guys over there are quite thirsty. Looks wise when the males are better looking that puts us males at a huge disadvantage. Take a look at Australia I think its one of the hardest markets for men. Why? Because the average girl is shit, but the average guy is good looking. A man who is a 7 on looks scale has trouble getting a girl who is 6 in Ozzyland.
From the countries I've visited the best markets for men are.
Thailand
Indonesia
Ukraine
Russia
Worst:
Australia
Turkey
Spain
Italy
I don't know why people rant about US here, but I found US to be quite even. A man who is a 6 will get a girl who is a 6. Its balanced. Perfect equilbrium.
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12-25-2016, 03:41 PM
Ireland, we have the worst of it in terms of attitude and looks, as any Irish man who goes abroad can attest to, we absolutely kill it with women outside of these shores. That says all you need to know.
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12-25-2016, 09:51 PM
Resource boom towns so places like Fort McMurray (Canada), Karratha (Australia) or Williston (USA). Imagine walking into a bar or club and the male to female ratio is about 70:30 (or worse) and all of the guys there are cashed up, aggressive, blue collar types who will not think twice about trying to take your girl or knock you the fuck out. I think it may be a bit unique to the Anglosphere because I haven't met any Europeans who remind me of these guys but basically a lot of the dudes in these towns look like (or often are) MMA fighters so lots of tattoos, mohawks haircuts, gaudy clothing and tacky jewelry. Many of them train hard at the gym and most do anabolics, at the club they get very drunk and are usually also fucked up on cocaine or some type of speed. Combine all that with extreme thirst do to the lack of women and you end up with a lot of aggressive dudes who will actively cock block and AMOG you or straight up try to fight you. I"m not exaggerating when I say that I feel much safer at bars and clubs in Colombia than I do in these types of places in blue collar Canadian towns.
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12-26-2016, 12:12 AM
Scotian hit the nail on the head. I live in Minot, ND and it's definitely the worst place as a single guy to live. There's an Air Force base and oil jobs which attract thousands of men, very few females. The only single women in the city are vile nasty pixie cut tattoo types.
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12-26-2016, 01:41 AM
Quote: (12-25-2016 02:36 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:
The reason why we have it easier in FSU is because the girls over there are WAY better looking compared to their guys. For example in southern european countries like Greece/Portugal/Italy, the males are much better looking compared to the females hence thats why the guys over there are quite thirsty. Looks wise when the males are better looking that puts us males at a huge disadvantage. Take a look at Australia I think its one of the hardest markets for men. Why? Because the average girl is shit, but the average guy is good looking. A man who is a 7 on looks scale has trouble getting a girl who is 6 in Ozzyland.
From the countries I've visited the best markets for men are.
Thailand
Indonesia
Ukraine
Russia
Worst:
Australia
Turkey
Spain
Italy
I don't know why people rant about US here, but I found US to be quite even. A man who is a 6 will get a girl who is a 6. Its balanced. Perfect equilbrium.
What's the deal with Turkey, Spain and Italy, cultural reasons mainly?
Quote: (12-23-2016 04:55 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:
I live near a top engineering college and the the male to female ratio is 53% to 47%. Though it could be a lot worse. Many engineers are total betas and omegas that have zero game. Really need help badly. The ratios are bad, but the competition is weak.
Lots of beta males, but most of the women are dogs.
Quote: (12-23-2016 06:48 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:
Any place with a massive gender imbalance is going to have uglier and fatter women. Prime examples: The Bay Area in California, and Alaska. Both are total sausage fests, and the women by and large make no effort to look or act nice. Basically, to have the best possible relationship between the sexes, we both have to try hard, and an even gender ratio encourages healthy competition.
There are some great hunting grounds in the Bay Area, like Golden Gate Park if you're on a good weekend league team. By and large it's not as good as Southern CA, but at least there are a lot fewer fatties in the Bay Area than in your average big city. The problem is that they tend to be frumpy, and way too indoctrinated, especially the transplants who come from more conservative states to live the lifestyle.
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