[philosophical_recovery]

(12-07-2016 09:46 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Iam selective because it find it so de-grading having to please and kiss the ass of girls who are not as attractive as me. And the girls who are attractive as me well they only want guys with money, lol.

Whose game guide is telling you to kiss ass to get laid?

[VKdog]

life experiences, all girls are the same, hot ones, ugly ones, fat ones, skinny ones, dumb ones, smart ones, they are all the same.

they are all princesses, and they want to be babied, some might not show it as much as others, but at the end of the day they are all the same.

(12-07-2016 09:54 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(12-07-2016 09:46 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Iam selective because it find it so de-grading having to please and kiss the ass of girls who are not as attractive as me. And the girls who are attractive as me well they only want guys with money, lol.

Whose game guide is telling you to kiss ass to get laid?

[puckerman]

(12-07-2016 02:37 PM)Letho Wrote:  

The university is extremely rural and has roughly 1800 students. When compared with other universities like Cardiff that have 30,000 students, mine is undeniably tiny. Everyone knows everyone.

COLLEGE IS THE EASIEST TIME IN YOUR LIFE FOR YOU TO GET LAID. Pussy is everywhere in college, and 80% of it is looking for dick. They are open and willing to try new things. If you think it's "tough" in college, just wait until you get out of college.

[kaotic]

(12-07-2016 10:01 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

life experiences, all girls are the same, hot ones, ugly ones, fat ones, skinny ones, dumb ones, smart ones, they are all the same.

they are all princesses, and they want to be babied, some might not show it as much as others, but at the end of the day they are all the same.

(12-07-2016 09:54 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(12-07-2016 09:46 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Iam selective because it find it so de-grading having to please and kiss the ass of girls who are not as attractive as me. And the girls who are attractive as me well they only want guys with money, lol.

Whose game guide is telling you to kiss ass to get laid?

Bad viewpoint, you should be thinking about how women should adore you and worship you.

Women who are ecstatic at seeing you after a long day at work or they smile at your every texts, or they enjoy doing nothing with you.

You sound bitter and have a defeatist attitude, being here, you can change that.

I've had rich girls when I had nothing, what now ? More excuses ?

Or are you going to change your lifestyle, improve your game, your social life, and the women you attract ?

Or you are going keep complaining about it ?

The ball is in your court, your move.

[Suits]

I used to think I was too selective back when I was a virgin.

[zanetti]

(12-06-2016 05:50 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Listen to your penis. The boner test has never failed me.

This

I used to think I was too selective too. When I was younger. Now, looking back, I realise i was just lying to myself, albeit on a subconscious level.

I think what is more likely is that you have some sort of mental block re sex/women, but that you're not entirely aware of this.

You're at university. It should be pretty straightforward. You meet a girl you kinda like (through courses, sport, party, dorm, tinder), she kinda likes you, you spend time together, get to know each other, maybe throw some alcohol into the mix, and sex will automatically happen at some point. It isn't that complicated.

[Leonard D Neubache]

First and foremost.

Stop jacking off to anime.

Stop jacking off to porn.

Stop jacking off to anime porn.

After one week you will gladly fuck the folds on a fat man's neck.

[XPQ22]

(12-07-2016 10:59 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

COLLEGE IS THE EASIEST TIME IN YOUR LIFE FOR YOU TO GET LAID. Pussy is everywhere in college, and 80% of it is looking for dick. They are open and willing to try new things. If you think it's "tough" in college, just wait until you get out of college.

Seriously. I went to a small liberal arts college with around 2200 students and if you were socially active, weren't devastatingly ugly, and were in decent shape (not terribly difficult at that age) the amount of game required to get laid was shockingly low. Granted this was the 1990s, but I'm guessing it hasn't changed terribly much.

Shit man even some of the live action roleplaying game nerds who wore cloaks around campus and played Warcraft 2 most weekends had little trouble pulling 5s and 6es at the least, from time to time.

No fibbing, there was this one kinda goofy-looking guy who wore a grey cloak around campus like Gandalf during the winter. Certainly not every girl's cup of tea, but he in fact did have a small harem of fairly cute nerdy/goth girls that I guess he ran some "hey want to come by my dorm and check out my White Wolf rulebook collection?" game on.

Some of his hallmates would complain to the RA about noise pollution on the weekends due to their banshee screaming from how hard he was laying pipe to them.

[Meat Head]

Be less selective.

[262]

It's true about college.

I remember freshman year. One 5 asked me to come to her room to help her set up her computer. Her roommate wasn't around. If I had any Game then I would've escalated to find out the real reason she invited me (which could've been just the computer, by the way, and rape isn't Game).

On another day a buddy of mine decided to destroy someone else's snowman. Turns out it was made by a 6 girl who'd never seen snow before. For whatever reason the girl playfully decided it was me, and "tackled" me. Game-less me was confused.

[Leonard D Neubache]

^The lost opportunities. It's enough to make a grown man cry.

Boys should go to all-boy schools and be taught Game from age 12.

[VKdog]

Iam a guy, and being a guy I dont need anyone to love me. Since the dawn of time men have been waging wars with each other, getting into fist fights, swearing at each other, men dont need love.

What a man needs is to be in love. I dont need her to love me, I need to love her. so unless she is as attractive as me I wont love her, and the idea of having to kiss ass, and run game on a girl that is not as attractive as me is de-grading.

I dont need to run game to feel adequate, I have other things in life that makes me feel adequate, so I dont need to run game on women to feel adequate and I certainly wont waste my time running game on women who are not as attractive as me.

the only reason I would run game on a girl that is not as attractive as me is if she is skinny. If she is one of those average body type, and is not as attractive as me, I wont bother.

(12-08-2016 12:25 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

Bad viewpoint, you should be thinking about how women should adore you and worship you.

Women who are ecstatic at seeing you after a long day at work or they smile at your every texts, or they enjoy doing nothing with you.

You sound bitter and have a defeatist attitude, being here, you can change that.

I've had rich girls when I had nothing, what now ? More excuses ?

Or are you going to change your lifestyle, improve your game, your social life, and the women you attract ?

Or you are going keep complaining about it ?

The ball is in your court, your move.

[philosophical_recovery]

(12-08-2016 09:04 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

[Dropping 110% alpha knowledge.]

[kaotic]

(12-08-2016 09:04 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Iam a guy, and being a guy I dont need anyone to love me. Since the dawn of time men have been waging wars with each other, getting into fist fights, swearing at each other, men dont need love.

What a man needs is to be in love. I dont need her to love me, I need to love her. so unless she is as attractive as me I wont love her, and the idea of having to kiss ass, and run game on a girl that is not as attractive as me is de-grading.

I dont need to run game to feel adequate, I have other things in life that makes me feel adequate, so I dont need to run game on women to feel adequate and I certainly wont waste my time running game on women who are not as attractive as me.

the only reason I would run game on a girl that is not as attractive as me is if she is skinny. If she is one of those average body type, and is not as attractive as me, I wont bother.

We get it, you're a guy.

When did I say anything about love ?

Funny you bring up love and war, remember Troy ?

Quote:

In Greek mythology, the Trojan War was waged against the city of Troy by the Achaeans (Greeks) after Paris of Troy took Helen from her husband Menelaus, king of Sparta.

Men have fought for a woman's love for ages.

A man doesn't need to be in love to enjoy women or life in general.

No one mentioned your inadequacies or adequacies - you speaking about it speaks volumes.


So what happens when a girl is more "attractive" then you but you still want to bang her ?

Just say fuck it I'm too alpha for this ?

Game isn't just about chasing pussy, it's all about your whole lifestyle, social life and other dynamics.

Noone said you had to kiss ass or degrade yourself.

You post has some denialisms and it's as if you seem too good for any of this.

If you're super attractive and despise 8 and below women and don't need game, then why are you here ?

[VKdog]

My point is this Iam too selective because unless she is as attractive as me I wont bother to run game on her. Yes I can have a great time with her, but I wont put in the effort because I feel I dont gain much from it.

Women are conceited, they watch romantic movies where the boy has to chase the girl, they listen to love songs, where the lyrics talk about love, and it gives them this idea that love is a wonderful and amazing thing, and us guys should be so damn lucky to in love with women. So trust me when I say this you will have to kiss ass.

the whole concept of pick up lines is kissing ass. If you are trying to get the affection of someone else, you have to kiss their ass.

I dont mind kissing a girl's ass if she is better looking than me, but when a girl isnt, and I have to kiss ass to get her affection, that is de-grading.

(12-09-2016 03:25 PM)kaotic Wrote:  



We get it, you're a guy.

When did I say anything about love ?

Funny you bring up love and war, remember Troy ?

Quote:

In Greek mythology, the Trojan War was waged against the city of Troy by the Achaeans (Greeks) after Paris of Troy took Helen from her husband Menelaus, king of Sparta.

Men have fought for a woman's love for ages.

A man doesn't need to be in love to enjoy women or life in general.

No one mentioned your inadequacies or adequacies - you speaking about it speaks volumes.


So what happens when a girl is more "attractive" then you but you still want to bang her ?

Just say fuck it I'm too alpha for this ?

Game isn't just about chasing pussy, it's all about your whole lifestyle, social life and other dynamics.

Noone said you had to kiss ass or degrade yourself.

You post has some denialisms and it's as if you seem too good for any of this.

If you're super attractive and despise 8 and below women and don't need game, then why are you here ?

[LeoneVolpe]

VKdog Wrote:

My point is this Iam too selective because unless she is as attractive as me I wont bother to run game on her. Yes I can have a great time with her, but I wont put in the effort because I feel I dont gain much from it.

Women are conceited, they watch romantic movies where the boy has to chase the girl, they listen to love songs, where the lyrics talk about love, and it gives them this idea that love is a wonderful and amazing thing, and us guys should be so damn lucky to in love with women. So trust me when I say this you will have to kiss ass.

the whole concept of pick up lines is kissing ass. If you are trying to get the affection of someone else, you have to kiss their ass.

I dont mind kissing a girl's ass if she is better looking than me, but when a girl isnt, and I have to kiss ass to get her affection, that is de-grading.

You are not entitled to top shelf pussy, you must work for it same as any of the rest of us. Sure, we'd all like to exclusively fuck 9s and 10s, but that just isn't real life. Fucking girls lower on the 1-to-10 scale is how you develop the skill set necessary to fuck girls in the upper echelons.

You might think you shouldn't have to "settle" for anyone less than your level of attractiveness, but physical appearance is only one part of the overall "value package" you must have in order to appeal to women. Have you put in the work physically (do you even lift?), mentally (are you working on your career/finances/education?), or otherwise?

Right now you're coming off a whole lot like feminists who think they're entitled to CEO positions simply for being women. As I said, you're not entitled to anything, you must earn it -- and there is always a learning curve.

VKdog, I think you need to pace yourself and spend some time in the "Newbie" subforum. You're not ready for the "Game" forum yet.

[philosophical_recovery]

(12-09-2016 08:18 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

the whole concept of pick up lines is kissing ass. If you are trying to get the affection of someone else, you have to kiss their ass.

Who is mentioning pick up lines? That's hardly even game any more. It's like we're suddenly on that mythical forum, PUAHATE or something.

So you see a girl on the street. Do you talk to her? Is that kissing her ass?

Do you bother talking to girls that aren't attractive just to keep your conversational skills on point?

Do you joyfully go through the day looking to add spice to whatever cute thing happens your way?

Or do you have an exact list of exactly what you will say the minute you see an HB10, then cave and not even have the balls to open her because suddenly you're faced with actually sacking up and busting a move?

Whatever anger issues you have, it would be best to solve them.

[LeoneVolpe]

^ Exactly. VKdog's painted himself into a corner where only the most attractive girls are "worthy" of him talking to/banging. With this mindset, before he's even opened his mouth he's already put them on a pedestal -- and inevitably any game he tries to spit will be pisspoor. Forget about banging, I doubt he has the game to even properly "open" such a dish, but even if he did -- she'd fucking eat him for lunch. You can't build a house without a firm foundation. Without the experience handling "shit tests" from lesser chicks, you're sure as hell not going to be able to handle HB-9s and 10s.

He talks about kissing ass, but with his mentality should he ever end up with a real looker -- he might as well take up permanent residence inside her ass because she would have him so wrapped around her finger, a giant boa would be envious of the grip.

   

[VKdog]

Why would you drive a crappy car just so in the future you can drive a nice car. If you can afford a nice car, just drive a nice car now. so why bang ugly girls, why not bang girls that are just as attractive as you, or even more attractive than you.

If I have to appeal to women then women needs to appeal to me, and if a girl doesnt make as much money as me and isnt as attractive as me then she doesnt appeal to me, so therefore I dont bother running game. But I dont care about how much money she makes, all I care about is her looks, if she is as attractive as me then I will run game, if not then I dont bother.

(12-09-2016 10:18 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Fucking girls lower on the 1-to-10 scale is how you develop the skill set necessary to fuck girls in the upper echelons.

You might think you shouldn't have to "settle" for anyone less than your level of attractiveness, but physical appearance is only one part of the overall "value package" you must have in order to appeal to women.

If you want to be that nice guy who is in the "friend zone" then go ahead and have conversations, but if you want to be more than just a friend, then you will have to kiss ass.

(12-09-2016 10:18 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Who is mentioning pick up lines? That's hardly even game any more. It's like we're suddenly on that mythical forum, PUAHATE or something.

So you see a girl on the street. Do you talk to her? Is that kissing her ass?

Do you bother talking to girls that aren't attractive just to keep your conversational skills on point?

Do you joyfully go through the day looking to add spice to whatever cute thing happens your way?

[LeoneVolpe]

^ I firmly stand by my analysis you need to go hang out in the "Newbie" forum for a while. Also, learn how to quote -- it wasn't even me who made the second comment you've falsely attributed to me.

Most people can't "afford" to drive a Ferrari right off the bat, they have to work their way up from a Mercedes or BMW. To even get to drive a Mercedes or BMW, they've probably had to work their way up from a Chevy. A HB-10 is the female equivalent of a Ferrari. I'm not telling you to drive a friggin' Yugo. Everyone starts somewhere and there's no shame in building your skill set and improving your quality along the way.

VKdog Wrote:

Why would you drive a crappy car just so in the future you can drive a nice car. If you can afford a nice car, just drive a nice car now. so why bang ugly girls, why not bang girls that are just as attractive as you, or even more attractive than you.

If I have to appeal to women then women needs to appeal to me, and if a girl doesnt make as much money as me and isnt as attractive as me then she doesnt appeal to me, so therefore I dont bother running game. But I dont care about how much money she makes, all I care about is her looks, if she is as attractive as me then I will run game, if not then I dont bother.

(Yesterday 11:18 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:
Fucking girls lower on the 1-to-10 scale is how you develop the skill set necessary to fuck girls in the upper echelons.

You might think you shouldn't have to "settle" for anyone less than your level of attractiveness, but physical appearance is only one part of the overall "value package" you must have in order to appeal to women.

If you want to be that nice guy who is in the "friend zone" then go ahead and have conversations, but if you want to be more than just a friend, then you will have to kiss ass.

(Yesterday 11:18 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:
Who is mentioning pick up lines? That's hardly even game any more. It's like we're suddenly on that mythical forum, PUAHATE or something.

So you see a girl on the street. Do you talk to her? Is that kissing her ass?

Do you bother talking to girls that aren't attractive just to keep your conversational skills on point?

Do you joyfully go through the day looking to add spice to whatever cute thing happens your way?

VKdog Wrote:

If I have to appeal to women then women needs to appeal to me, and if a girl doesnt make as much money as me and isnt as attractive as me then she doesnt appeal to me, so therefore I dont bother running game. But I dont care about how much money she makes, all I care about is her looks, if she is as attractive as me then I will run game, if not then I dont bother.

It isn't your level of interest in a girl that matters, it's her level of interest in you. Even if you're good looking, you're only ticking one box of importance to girls. As I said, you must have a "value package" consisting of more than just your looks in order to appeal to women, especially top shelf pussy.

[Ogunn]

(12-09-2016 10:18 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

VKdog Wrote:

My point is this Iam too selective because unless she is as attractive as me I wont bother to run game on her. Yes I can have a great time with her, but I wont put in the effort because I feel I dont gain much from it.

Women are conceited, they watch romantic movies where the boy has to chase the girl, they listen to love songs, where the lyrics talk about love, and it gives them this idea that love is a wonderful and amazing thing, and us guys should be so damn lucky to in love with women. So trust me when I say this you will have to kiss ass.

the whole concept of pick up lines is kissing ass. If you are trying to get the affection of someone else, you have to kiss their ass.

I dont mind kissing a girl's ass if she is better looking than me, but when a girl isnt, and I have to kiss ass to get her affection, that is de-grading.

You are not entitled to top shelf pussy, you must work for it same as any of the rest of us. Sure, we'd all like to exclusively fuck 9s and 10s, but that just isn't real life. Fucking girls lower on the 1-to-10 scale is how you develop the skill set necessary to fuck girls in the upper echelons.

You might think you shouldn't have to "settle" for anyone less than your level of attractiveness, but physical appearance is only one part of the overall "value package" you must have in order to appeal to women. Have you put in the work physically (do you even lift?), mentally (are you working on your career/finances/education?), or otherwise?

Right now you're coming off a whole lot like feminists who think they're entitled to CEO positions simply for being women. As I said, you're not entitled to anything, you must earn it -- and there is always a learning curve.

VKdog, I think you need to pace yourself and spend some time in the "Newbie" subforum. You're not ready for the "Game" forum yet.

[Ogunn]

(12-07-2016 09:46 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Iam selective because it find it so de-grading having to please and kiss the ass of girls who are not as attractive as me. And the girls who are attractive as me well they only want guys with money, lol.

If you find what you are doing to be degrading. That is because you are doing something very wrong. I have not known any guy that was able to get a quality woman by kissing her ass.

(12-07-2016 09:54 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Whose game guide is telling you to kiss ass to get laid?

(12-07-2016 10:01 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

life experiences, all girls are the same, hot ones, ugly ones, fat ones, skinny ones, dumb ones, smart ones, they are all the same.

they are all princesses, and they want to be babied, some might not show it as much as others, but at the end of the day they are all the same.

If you had spent more time reading the forums or traveling internationaly you would know not all women think they are princesses and want to be babied.

(12-08-2016 09:04 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

I dont need to run game on women to feel adequate and I certainly wont waste my time running game on women who are not as attractive as me.

the only reason I would run game on a girl that is not as attractive as me is if she is skinny. If she is one of those average body type, and is not as attractive as me, I wont bother.

The only reason you should not run game on women who dont meet a certain attractiveness level IE 6s and below. Is when you have an ABUNDANCE of better looking women IE 7s and above contacting you regularly. This is point where your game has gotten so good. That you have so many women up your ass. That you simply do not have enough time to spend time with all of them. At that point you filter for quality. If you have not gotten to that point yet and you are already filtering needlessly (IE you wont talk to that 6 even though you havent gotten laid in a month) you are just kidding yourself and arresting your game development.

(12-09-2016 11:45 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

Why would you drive a crappy car just so in the future you can drive a nice car. If you can afford a nice car, just drive a nice car now. so why bang ugly girls, why not bang girls that are just as attractive as you, or even more attractive than you.

When you first learn to drive just like when you learning to game, you are going to make mistakes. Some of these mistakes will be big. If the car you are learning to drive in is a Ferrari, just like a girl who is a 9 or 10 those early mistakes can be more costly than if you started of with a much cheaper car or an average looking girl.

Furthermore if I follow your logic. If my goal is to drive a Ferrari then I should wait until I can purchase a Ferrari before I learn to drive? So when I start to learn to drive it will be in a Ferrari. A car which because of its power, I will have a much higher chance of crashing than an average vehicle. That damage can easily exceed the cost of a used car that I could have learned to drive in. Not to mention the risk of severe injury to myself and others. Hopefully you see the parallel between the Ferrari and 9 or 10. When starting off you have a much higher chance of success with 6s and below than you do with 7s and above. By practicing on 6s and below you will get good because they will be more receptive. Your SUCCESSES and FAILURES with the 6s and below will prepare you for 7s and 8s. And 8s will prepare you for 9s and 10s. If you are just starting out and all you focus on are 9s and 10s. Then chances are you are going to keep getting blown out. This will discourage you. You will tell yourself game doesn't work and you will quit long before you get good.

(12-09-2016 11:45 PM)VKdog Wrote:  

If you want to be that nice guy who is in the "friend zone" then go ahead and have conversations, but if you want to be more than just a friend, then you will have to kiss ass.

Like I said before. If whatever you doing makes you feel like you are kissing girls asses, then you are doing something very, very, wrong.

You need to read or reread Mystery Method.

[Leonard D Neubache]

VKdog was last seen heading in the direction of the local MGTOW meeting. He could be heard to say, "I'm not interested in women any more because none of them are up to my standards."

His penis could not be reached for comment.

[VKdog]

If a guy walks into a car dealership and wants to buy a nice car and you tell him that he should buy a crappy car now
and then buy a nice car later, he will think you are the worst car salesman in the world.

(12-10-2016 01:22 AM)Ogunn Wrote:  

When you first learn to drive just like when you learning to game, you are going to make mistakes. Some of these mistakes will be big. If the car you are learning to drive in is a Ferrari, just like a girl who is a 9 or 10 those early mistakes can be more costly than if you started of with a much cheaper car or an average looking girl.

Furthermore if I follow your logic. If my goal is to drive a Ferrari then I should wait until I can purchase a Ferrari before I learn to drive? So when I start to learn to drive it will be in a Ferrari. A car which because of its power, I will have a much higher chance of crashing than an average vehicle. That damage can easily exceed the cost of a used car that I could have learned to drive in. Not to mention the risk of severe injury to myself and others. Hopefully you see the parallel between the Ferrari and 9 or 10. When starting off you have a much higher chance of success with 6s and below than you do with 7s and above. By practicing on 6s and below you will get good because they will be more receptive. Your SUCCESSES and FAILURES with the 6s and below will prepare you for 7s and 8s. And 8s will prepare you for 9s and 10s. If you are just starting out and all you focus on are 9s and 10s. Then chances are you are going to keep getting blown out. This will discourage you. You will tell yourself game doesn't work and you will quit long before you get good.

You need to read or reread Mystery Method.

When I first posted on this thread I said I dont bother running game on girls who are not as attractive as me, and I feel its
de-grading to me, Iam not saying its de-grading in general, Iam saying I feel its de-grading to me. Apparently the word
de-grading upset a few people.

Look if its not de-grading to you guys to run game on ugly girls then go ahead run game, who knows, maybe you guys are insane
fuk machines, and you guys know how to pound a girl really hard doggy style, so it wont matter how attractive she is because in bed
her head is face down and ass up.

[philosophical_recovery]

Guys, I degraded myself today because I talked to a fat chick. She actually smiled!

I'm going to go kill myself now because I am too ashamed.