[MajorStyles]

(11-11-2016 06:39 AM)amity Wrote:  

Family is a little tricky, my brothers and sister are good guys but believe a lot of what they hear and read in the media and so are predictably anti-Trump, not surprisingly my sister a bit moreso than my brothers who I can still debate with somewhat on these issues.

My mother, who is much older, believes that CNN is fair and balanced. She only got into politics a few years ago, so she's still a bit green in that regard. At any rate, it kills me to watch her let these media parasites spin her from one emotional goalpost to another.

Just another reason to hate the MSM.

[amity]

(11-11-2016 06:55 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

I've seen two or three FB de-friending that I know of, as well as had one close family friend essentially tell me to fuck off permanently - this, after smugly offering me a bet of a couple of thousand dollars a few of days before the election. He did this after emailing me, unsolicited, about the election, even though I never got too deep into politics with him before.

I did not take the bet, nor would it have mattered as he would never have paid it. I would never have expected him to, even if his attitude were better as I don't gamble. He was so certain of a Hillary victory.

The kicker? He's a guilt-ridden leftist German who has very little exposure to media outside what's provided to him via censored and already left-leaning European media. I did not expect even someone like him to react this way, but he's carrying on like a schoolgirl who just got denied an allowance. He has zero stake in the game and cannot vote in our elections, but takes a Trump win personally as if a meteor just struck his grandmas house.

I should have known when he got offended at me questioning the leadership of Merkel in my response to his challenge for a bet and ensuing discussion of politics, but I never imagined it would ever come to this - I've known the guy almost ten years. Some people might regret losing a friend over something so silly, but I don't see it that way - he deliberately lost me, not the other way around. Too bad, we had some good times.

I've had something similar, except with a German girl, who i was friends with for a few years, through an ex of mine.
She was great fun, intelligent, witty, into a lot of the same music and films as myself, we got along great.
But I noticed her getting more and more SJWlike in the last few years, even moreso after a spell studying in Portland, where she seemed to come back as a full blown feminist.
Not surprisingly she became increasingly pissed with my redpill perspectives on life and sometimes on politics too.
At first it was gently scolding and I didn't pay much notice, but eventually she went full retard on me, in a series of "How are you!" type answers to a FB post I made re the madness of Merkel & the migrant crisis.
Essentially she was trying to public shame me, and it almost worked.
I removed the post quickly as she was starting to turn people against me, and not long afterwards I was defriended and the girl hasn't spoken or contacted me since.
A shame as I did like her former self a lot, but not the person she became in more recent times.
The 'Gutmensch' mentality has gone into overdrive in the last few years, combine it with war guilt and SJW identity politics and you get a population of unthinking ideologues who cannot entertain opinions that don't concur with theirs.
Germany has become the hotbed of such people.

[RexImperator]

What's a social life?

[Suits]

I live in China, so......

[MajorStyles]

(11-10-2016 01:08 PM)fortysix Wrote:  

The thing is I work with a fairly conservative bunch of older gentlemen in a conservative profession - one guy sent us a mass e-mail that we shall "press onward." C'mon?

Does he look like this?

[amity]

Quote:

I've had something similar, except with a German girl, who i was friends with for a few years, through an ex of mine.
She was great fun, intelligent, witty, into a lot of the same music and films as myself, we got along great.
But I noticed her getting more and more SJWlike in the last few years, even moreso after a spell studying in Portland, where she seemed to come back as a full blown feminist.
Not surprisingly she became increasingly pissed with my redpill perspectives on life and sometimes on politics too.
At first it was gently scolding and I didn't pay much notice, but eventually she went full retard on me, in a series of "How dare you!" type answers to a FB post I made re the madness of Merkel & the migrant crisis.
Essentially she was trying to public shame me, and it almost worked.
I removed the post quickly as she was starting to turn people against me, and not long afterwards I was defriended and the girl hasn't spoken or contacted me since.
A shame as I did like her former self a lot, but not the person she became in more recent times.
The 'Gutmensch' mentality has gone into overdrive in the last few years, combine it with war guilt and SJW identity politics and you get a population of unthinking ideologues who cannot entertain opinions that don't concur with theirs.
Germany has become the hotbed of such people.

Left out the 'd' in 'dare' here in my original post, makes a bit more sense now!

[philosophical_recovery]

I have been grinning damn near all day every day. It's been contagious among the few here I know that were wanting this. The good sports have been taking it in stride. The crybullies have been hiding from me to talk shit about Trump because they know all they have to offer is VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY TALK RACIST HITLER and I have a bevy of hard data on how fucked this country would've been if it turned out different thanks to BASED LEAK DEALER ASSANGE.

Also went on streak of texting MAGA to a bunch of chicks to see where they stood. A few of them loved it, including a chick I recently met and turns out is cool as shit and I got her over on election night to celebrate. Great way to end a night of shitlording in public in unfriendly territory.

We made a lot of people in the bar uncomfortable by being so damn happy, classy, and enjoyable the entire night. Lots of vitriol from a group of hillary supporting warpigs. They went home to cry into fur and eat haagen daaz.



I got radio silence from a few others. Who knows what'll happen when I see them in person? Don't care, to be honest. I was tired of the massive groupthink circlejerk that I escaped from by deleting my facebook months ago. They're probably all putting transparent hillary memes over their profile pictures right now to mourn the death of her presidential run.

I'm back to doing more productive things in the mornings before work than agonizing over all the horrible shit that turned out from Wikileaks. This puts me in an even better mood.

[MajorStyles]

(11-11-2016 08:59 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

I was tired of the massive groupthink circlejerk that I escaped from by deleting my facebook months ago. They're probably all putting transparent hillary memes over their profile pictures right now to mourn the death of her presidential run.

That's is. Without Facebook, nobody would pay attention to these people unless they farted in the checkout line of Albertson's. The sooner we remove them from our mental space, the better.

We can already predict the final destination of their daily postings and rants anyway: post-wall depression for the women and blue-pill failure for the men.

[gske]

What I am wondering as a not involved spectator of the election is:
Did you vote for Trump because you are a conservative by heart or simply because the democrats didn't offer a serious candidate in this election?

[SlickyBoy]

(11-11-2016 12:43 PM)gske Wrote:  

What I am wondering as a not involved spectator of the election is:
Did you vote for Trump because you are a conservative by heart or simply because the democrats didn't offer a serious candidate in this election?

The democrats offered a complete turd - someone who expected a coronation and was annoyed at the very prospect of having to gain the votes of peasants across the nation. But Democrats are Marxist anyway so I'm not sure how much better a non-felonious alternative would have been - they all lead to the same place, just a question of how fast they get us there.

As to being a conservative, that's kind of a loaded question - what's passed for "conservative" lately doesn't mean a whole lot since so few of the conservative politicians in America ever wanted to conserve anything. The rest got caught up in social issues they had no prayer of winning anyway - gay marriage, abortion, etc.

Trump flies in and doesn't touch any of that while pissing off all the remaining "conservative" globalist types. He only used the GOP because he needed a major party to challenge thecunt. I'm really not sure what he is, but finally someone runs who speaks to the major concerns of a large part of America. The global homosexual elite are choking on their arugula salad at the idea they actually have to share a country and - perish the thought - governing power with people who don't agree with them.

People say Trump was such a horrible choice, but who else would have shaken up the establishment the way he did? And after eight years of having a 55 year old graduate student leading the country, it's hard to talk seriously about minimum qualifications for the job. Trump will probably disappoint in some areas, but I can't think of anyone I'd rather have up there right now, in times like these.

[Mr. Accuride]

My entire social media has melted in tears of agony, and many people have called me heartless and evil for having no concerns about the social matters or the ensuing racism/sexism/et al. that the Trump presidency brings.

I have lost all remaining respect for the left.

[debeguiled]

(11-11-2016 07:32 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  

What's a social life?

Rex,

Go back to your thread. You have work to do.

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[4profit]

(11-11-2016 12:07 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Nothing has changed for me, and nothing will. I love this forum and the men on it but just like Obama, Trump will change nothing. The liberals are going to double down, the Republican party will lose the mid terms and Washington will continue to do nothing. Prepare yourself for the predictable.

Saving this. I may or may not laugh at it in 2 years.

[Wutang]

I'm up to about 10 Facebook unfriendings now. Finally got my first male unfriending. Well, actually earlier I did have this guy who claims to a trans-female block me but out of consideration of his trans-identity I counted him among the female unfrienders.

Posted up a story about how I was walking home from my womyn's studies class when four NeoNazi KKK frat boys jumped out of their pickup truck (which had a Confederate Flag hanging on it) and proceeded to grab my pussy (post op installed pussy) and strangle me with my own hijab and how I was literally shaking from it and immediately got an unfriend from that as well as some people lecturing me about how it wasn't funny.

[Truth Tiger]

A blue-pill relative made a comment on fb relayed to me by a mutual friend about wishing they hadn't had kids. Not unexpected but a very pathetic remark. I won't touch it online (barely use fb, mostly there for my business), but it tells me family holidays could be quite tense with SJW types moaning. I won't tolerate it and while I don't need to gloat, I won't pretend their fallacious bullshit doesn't stink. The victory is ours, their true colors will and are showing. We get to get out-group those who add no value to our lives. Maybe some (more than likely women who secretly or overtly respect masculinity) will be more drawn and by staying cool and factual we'll look even more appealing.

Like with gaming women, to me it feels natural to open with amused mastery (light shitlording) and if necessary bring in the bigger guns but factually/non-emotionally. If I lose my temper, the other person 'wins'. As some here have said this isn't a the final battle, it's just part of an on-going war. It'll be won through influencing the minds and hearts of those who don't get it but are open to understanding. That may be a vast majority of people who consider themselves independent, libertarian, or even liberal democrats. However, it doesn't mean admitting to weakness or explaining/justifying our position. We need to trigger those amygdalas but in a way that can be managed, not rendering them completely incapable of functioning in the real world. Shit-lording from a compassionate heart - like Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple but also saying to his executioners 'Father forgive them; they don't know what they do.'

This is a great article on anonymous conservative's site about dealing with hyper-emotional/triggered individuals.

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

(11-11-2016 03:24 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

I'm up to about 10 Facebook unfriendings now. Finally got my first male unfriending. Well, actually earlier I did have this guy who claims to a trans-female block me but out of consideration of his trans-identity I counted him among the female unfrienders.

I have an old high school friend (I mean old.. I am in my mid 40s) who I wonder will unfriend me at some point. He is about as far into the SJW world as a man can get (he is an artist.. so all emotion). He posted about a friend of his posting 'distressing' posts about Islam. Had to be me.. as I was posting every rapefugee story I could find, as Syrians are being settled in my city. So far.. I am still on his friend's list.

[LeoneVolpe]

I definitely feel emboldened to shitpost on Facebook now. I'm not expecting to change hearts and minds, I'm not naive. It just feels good to be able to publicly push back against the regressive leftists that have been trying to shame us these past eight years for espousing any traditional beliefs that run counter to their cultural Marxist bullshit.

[Nowak]

From my own personal observations leftists in continental Europe are not nearly as obnoxious as leftists in the states with being salty and butthurt. The left right divide seems more or less the same, the divide between virtue signalers and everyone else is 100000x bigger. West and East coast metropolitoids seem to not be able to deal with reality. Even though Trump has won the election im definitely less motivated to return because of this, maybe people in 5 months will chill out , hopefully.

[Teedub]

(11-11-2016 09:45 AM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

(11-11-2016 08:59 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

I was tired of the massive groupthink circlejerk that I escaped from by deleting my facebook months ago. They're probably all putting transparent hillary memes over their profile pictures right now to mourn the death of her presidential run.

That's is. Without Facebook, nobody would pay attention to these people unless they farted in the checkout line of Albertson's. The sooner we remove them from our mental space, the better.

We can already predict the final destination of their daily postings and rants anyway: post-wall depression for the women and blue-pill failure for the men.

I've had one or two 'unfriendings' over the past few years, and I barely even post anything overtly political. All females by the way. I suspect it's more due to the fact that facebook sometimes highlights other posts you've liked. I.E. 'Teedub' liked Paul Joseph Watson's video.

In real life, it's a lot more nuanced, and nobody really argues with me because they know I study politics as a hobby and that they can't really argue with me. Politics should only be discussed face to face, otherwise you're not changing anyone's opinion.

[John Michael Kane]

Most of my friends are conservative, so they obviously wanted to defeat Clinton. Various degrees of support for Trump, but a few nonsensical never-Trumpers that act unless a man is a choir boy his whole life he can't be President. Total Never-Never Land types. They just don't get that everyone has flaws and being strident will only get the worse opposition into office.

I've had a number of people from my social circle posting nonsense about Trump is going to kill all the gays, Mexicans, etc. I just laugh and don't engage. There's no point in arguing with that level of nonsense. Total waste of precious time.

Instead, I just keep posting pro 2nd-Amendment links and images. It triggers all the right people.

I hope Trump gets national concealed carry reciprocity!

[Kingsley Davis]

(12-26-2016 08:04 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Most of my friends are conservative, so they obviously wanted to defeat Clinton. Various degrees of support for Trump, but a few nonsensical never-Trumpers that act unless a man is a choir boy his whole life he can't be President. Total Never-Never Land types. They just don't get that everyone has flaws and being strident will only get the worse opposition into office.

I've had a number of people from my social circle posting nonsense about Trump is going to kill all the gays, Mexicans, etc. I just laugh and don't engage. There's no point in arguing with that level of nonsense. Total waste of precious time.

Instead, I just keep posting pro 2nd-Amendment links and images. It triggers all the right people.

I hope Trump gets national concealed carry reciprocity!

Funny you mention the 2nd Ammendment as i had a big gun collecting afficianado who reside in DC (go figure) went full fucking retard on me when i brought up how could he support the party against his hobby. Same gent he and i occassionally would discuss the fine points of ...THE MATRIX.

Clearly The Narrative "trumps" The Red Pill.

[John Michael Kane]

Regarding people that vote against their own self-interest, such as your friend with all the guns, it reminds me of this saying:

There are none so blind as those who will not see. - John Heywood

[Neo]

Less than I thought it would. That's how life is though, our brain future simulator malfunctions.

I did lose some 'friends' in the process of the election, but in general not much of an effect. Colleagues at work and the higher ups knew I was a Trump supporter for a while, and a few weeks before the election I announced that I had put my money where my mouth was and bet on Trump back in December.

At my job in my circle I was the ONLY vocal Trump supporter. Over the past year I got a Bernie Bro pretty much over to our side by discussing the issues.
He abstained from voting, but has come around quite a bit.

I'm not sure what the left and left leaning employers will do now. If Hillary was elected I was expecting her to slowly purge us. I'm still staying vigilant, because one thing I've really realized is that many lefties are some of the biggest weasels. Wouldn't doubt if people at some point run to HR and try to smear Trump supporters. Whatever happens I'll be ready for them.

[heavy]

(12-26-2016 08:21 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

...
Funny you mention the 2nd Ammendment as i had a big gun collecting afficianado who reside in DC (go figure) went full fucking retard on me when i brought up how could he support the party against his hobby. Same gent he and i occassionally would discuss the fine points of ...THE MATRIX.

Clearly The Narrative "trumps" The Red Pill.

As Rush has been saying for 30 years...

A liberal is a liberal first. They may be black, they may be a feminist, they may be many things. But they're liberal first. They'll vote left even if it's against their own group.

[Kingsley Davis]

(12-27-2016 10:05 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:21 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

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Funny you mention the 2nd Ammendment as i had a big gun collecting afficianado who reside in DC (go figure) went full fucking retard on me when i brought up how could he support the party against his hobby. Same gent he and i occassionally would discuss the fine points of ...THE MATRIX.

Clearly The Narrative "trumps" The Red Pill.

As Rush has been saying for 30 years...

A liberal is a liberal first. They may be black, they may be a feminist, they may be many things. But they're liberal first. They'll vote left even if it's against their own group.

Took me a while to get my head around the misconceptions i've held like The Right wants to take your rights, the utter disdain for individual accomplishment "you did'nt build that" and the reasons behind the real war against nature not the global warming shilling are a few that comes to mind. Don't get me started on the JQ, thank goodness a new thread began discussing this.
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