[Sooth]

I seem to remember that if a Youtube video races to 300 views quickly, a separate monetisation algorithm kicks in that is more accurate at figuring out which views are real. It's quite common to see this happen.

As far as the comment shaping - absolutely. The software written behind the scenes that is designed to make content shaping easy is probably more complex than the actual software that runs the site. The same for Twitter and Facebook.

As for the second video - Woow! It feels like a weight being lifted off my shoulders because I knew there was something wrong with the media and government in western societies and here it is!

May their fall be swift and reckless.

[CaptainChardonnay]

(10-18-2016 02:07 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

Lol great timing Obama...



Barack Obama: Donald Trump should stop whining about US election fraud

Quote:

Barack Obama has told Donald Trump he does not have what it takes to be President if he is already "whining" before the vote has taken place.

The President tore into the Republican nominee following his continued claims that November's US election is rigged.

"If you start whining before the game's even over; if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job," Mr Obama said during a press conference at the White House.

He called Mr Trump's intensifying warnings about voter fraud "unprecedented" in modern politics, saying his claims were not based on evidence, but simply aimed at discrediting the election.

"There is no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time," the President said.

"And so I'd invite Mr Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."

He also accused the Republican of modelling his policies on Russian President Vladimir Putin.

obama acknowledging Trump's concerns brings more credence to what he is saying

[Adonis]

Eat shit YouTube!



In for the law suit...

[kbell]

I'm more excited by these videos than wikileaks. More viral, easier to understand for laypeople, dramatic and the Russian can't be blamed for it, easily. This is the guy that took done ACORN with Hannah Giles.

[Valentine]

Robert Creamer (voter fraud orchestrator who resigned earlier today) met with Obama almost 340 times at the White House since 2009.



Scott Foval and Robert Creamer even had back-to-back meetings with Obama.

[Jaydublin]

^^^ Is there anything illegal there?

[Snowplow]

(10-18-2016 10:51 PM)Jaydublin Wrote:  

^^^ Is there anything illegal there?

No, it's just very coincidental.

[Zep]

It's on CNN right now.

[LeoneVolpe]

It may not be illegal, but it sure as hell doesn't look good for a sitting president to be associated with either one of those two assholes right now.

[Jaydublin]

(10-18-2016 11:06 PM)Zep Wrote:  

It's on CNN right now.

The fact that he had been at the White house?

It really does look bad. I just didn't think the media would cover it unless it was illegal.

[Adonis]

(10-18-2016 10:41 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

Robert Creamer (voter fraud orchestrator who resigned earlier today) met with Obama almost 340 times at the White House since 2009.

Scott Foval and Robert Creamer even had back-to-back meetings with Obama.

Come on guys, they were probably just talking about yoga pants and wedding venues.

[Adonis]

Quote:

James O'Keefe ‏@JamesOKeefeIII 16m16 minutes ago
Who needs the @washingtonpost when this second video on massive voter fraud is the No. 1 Trending video on http://YouTube.com

[C-Note]

Washington Post went ahead and did a story. Notice that it tries to downplay the allegations that most of the violence at Trump rallies was caused by the DNC.

Quote:

Scott Foval and Robert Creamer, two little-known but influential Democratic political operatives, have left their jobs after video investigations by James O'Keefe's Project Veritas Action found them entertaining dark notions about how to win elections. Foval was laid off Monday by Americans United for Change, where he had been national field director; Creamer announced Tuesday night that he was “stepping back” from the work he was doing for the unified Democratic campaign for Hillary Clinton.

The moves came after 36 hours of coverage, led by conservative and social media, for O'Keefe's video series “Rigging the Election.” In them, Foval is filmed telling hidden-camera-toting journalists about how they have disrupted Republican events. Foval also goes on at length about how an organization might cover up in-person voter fraud. In another Tuesday night statement, the Creamer-founded Democracy Partners, which used Foval as a contractor, denounced both Project Veritas and the statements caught on camera.

“Our firm has recently been the victim of a well-funded, systematic spy operation that is the modern day equivalent of the Watergate burglars,” the firm said. “The plot involved the use of trained operatives using false identifications, disguises and elaborate false covers to infiltrate our firm and others, to steal campaign plans, and goad unsuspecting individuals into making careless statements on hidden cameras. One of those individuals was a temporary regional subcontractor who was goaded into statements that do not reflect our values.”

Both “scalps,” as O'Keefe refers to them, drew new attention to a campaign that had become viewed very skeptically by political reporters. O'Keefe's 2009 sting of ACORN led to the destruction of that group; a 2011 sting of NPR executives led to two resignations. Subsequent investigations found discrepancies between how the undercover journalists approached their targets and how they packaged what the targets said. In the latter case, then-NPR executive Ron Schiller quoted a Republican who viewed tea party activists as “racist.” The edited clip made it appear that Schiller himself held that opinion.

Project Veritas and Project Veritas Action — the latter group created to more freely cover political activity — had a more fitfully successful record. In a series of videos, O'Keefe and other journalists posed as registered voters to expose how easy it would be to obtain ballots fraudulently where identification was not required to vote. But there were high-profile failures, too. A sting in which a journalist posed as a Canadian citizen and purchased Clinton campaign merchandise was unveiled at a news conference where the first question was: “Is this a joke?” A mole sent to work for a Democratic campaign in Wisconsin was exposed and fired. A call to the Open Society Foundations, founded by the frequent conservative target George Soros, went awry when a Project Veritas journalist left the phone off the hook. The result was shared with New Yorker magazine reporter Jane Mayer.

The result of all that was that the “Rigging the Election” videos got a skeptical reception — at first. But the video of Foval, a Wisconsin-based politico with a long résumé, had him bragging about a litany of political dirty tricks. In the first video, he boasts of “conflict engagement in the lines of Trump rallies,” takes credit for the violence that canceled a Trump rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago, admits he has paid “mentally ill” people to start trouble and says there's a “Pony Express” that keeps Democratic operatives in touch, regardless of whether they work for super PACs or the campaigns not permitted to coordinate with super PACs.

In the second video, Foval spends five minutes discussing how voters might be brought from outside Wisconsin to commit voter fraud, buying cars with Wisconsin plates to avoid looking suspicious. “We've been busing people in to deal with you f---ing a--holes for 50 years, and we're not going to stop now,” he says.

Since the video's release, Foval has responded to media requests by saying the video did not deserve attention from “legitimate news organizations.” A call to Creamer on Tuesday night went to voice mail. Although neither man is defending the content of the videos, the editing raises questions about what was said and what may come out later.

Foval, who repeatedly ties a noose with his tongue, also seems to overhype his successes. Reporters who covered the Trump UIC appearance found that students, not Americans United for Change, were responsible for the shutdown of the Trump rally. The video's evidence to the contrary is that Zulema Rodriguez, an activist paid in February by the Democratic National Committee, says on tape that she was there and “did that.” In the first video, O'Keefe makes much of the term “bird-dogging,” which Foval describes as putting people at the front of rope lines to make sure “they're the ones asking questions.”

“It's a word we had not heard until we began this investigation,” O'Keefe says, noting that the term appears in WikiLeaks emails that include Clinton staffers.

But it's not a new term and certainly not secret. Bird-dogging is a fairly common activist tactic, and reporters often recognize it when seemingly “perfect” questions come from a political audience. In August 2015, Foval told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that People for the American Way, his employer at the time, was “bird-dogging all of” the Republican presidential candidates. What was seen as a nuisance political tactic then becomes, in the video sting, a secretive form of voter-candidate intimidation.

In the “voter fraud” video, Foval looks — somehow — even worse, describing how voters could be sent to Midwestern states to cast fraudulent ballots. But when PVAction edits this into a narrative, something gets lost. Foval says that “Bob Creamer comes up with a lot of these ideas,” but what the “ideas” are is lost to a quick edit. After a quick introduction of Creamer that covers his 2005 conviction for tax evasion, Creamer is seen talking to a journalist posing as a possible donor, rambling a bit as he describes how to get voter IDs to people who need them.

“What do you really need, okay?” says the journalist. “What makes you a citizen? And if you look at that checklist, it's an ID card of any kind that shows you who you are and a pay stub that shows you're getting paid at a local address some place.”

“To get registered, you mean?” asks Creamer.

“Yeah,” says the journalist. “Let's say I had business inside of, say, Illinois or Michigan, and I hired people, and I had addresses for them, I could write them checks, I could use them as day laborers or whatever and use them and find my way around the voter registration law for Hispanics.”

Creamer quickly begins jotting down names of voter registration groups: “There are a couple of different organizations — that's their big trick.” But while the implication is that the journalist is pitching mass voter fraud, he never says as much, and Creamer never agrees to it. In another tape, filmed at a restaurant, Creamer hears another version of the pitch and says, “My fear is that someone would decide that this is a big voter fraud scheme.”

In the end, PVAction's evidence that Creamer might help with a voter fraud scheme is that Foval hints at it. In a follow-up clip, Foval tells the undercover journalist that Creamer was not onboard with any scheme to grant ID cards but that he told Creamer it could be handled by someone else. “We talk about a lot of things we don't talk about,” Foval says conspiratorially. In PVAction's telling, the “someone else” might be “dreamer” activist César Vargas, who is filmed saying he might be able to help another undercover journalist, if not in 2016.

But Vargas, as of now the only target of these videos who has not lost a job, claims that PVAction left out exculpatory video of the interview. “They have a transcript of our conversation to confirm I told them that voting twice was illegal,” Vargas wrote on Facebook on Tuesday. “I will not respond to Fox News or the trolls but let them have their field day of conspiracies.”

If that video exists, PVAction is not going to make it easy to watch. In the past, and in the immediate wake of some bad publicity, the group posted the entirety of its video stings online. It no longer does this.

“The reporting process and methods of Project Veritas Action are proven successful and effective and are the protected intellectual property and trade secrets of Project Veritas Action,” said Steve Gordon, a spokesman for the PVAction Fund. “This policy is in accordance with the practices of news organizations globally and is generally accepted as the professional norm.”

But Foval's sacking and Creamer's “stepping back” have already given the Trump campaign the confidence to run with these stories. On Tuesday night's episode of “Hannity” on Fox News, two campaign representatives said that the PVAction tapes validated everything Trump had said about the possible threat of election theft and called for a hasty FBI investigation into anyone connected to Creamer.

“Once again, Donald Trump was ahead of his time,” said Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway. “We see that it goes right to the top.”

“The FBI should be opening an investigation into these people right now,” said Trump ally and former House speaker Newt Gingrich.

[Mr. D]

Sargon's got one related to this...

[kbell]

Huma on letting all Syrians in. And how Syrian refugees like Hillary and will illegally vote for her if they get to the US.

[AneroidOcean]

(10-19-2016 09:57 PM)kbell Wrote:  

Huma on letting all Syrians in. And how Syrian refugees like Hillary and will illegally vote for her if they get to the US.

This was by far their weakest video. Huma didn't say anything significant and the Syrians said they want Hillary to fix the Syrian problem (which is way too vague to pin her to any specific problem).

Sure, they said they would enter another country via a fake passport but that's not exactly a huge exposé.

[Snowplow]

(10-19-2016 10:41 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 09:57 PM)kbell Wrote:  

Huma on letting all Syrians in. And how Syrian refugees like Hillary and will illegally vote for her if they get to the US.

This was by far their weakest video. Huma didn't say anything significant and the Syrians said they want Hillary to fix the Syrian problem (which is way too vague to pin her to any specific problem).

Sure, they said they would enter another country via a fake passport but that's not exactly a huge exposé.

You're right it was vague, but look a little deeper into it. She first says that according to republicans they (Syrians) can only come over if they are Christian refugees. But the part where she says it's not ok for us to turn people away is more troubling.

With finding out more and more about Hillary and her Saudi backers, the push of migrants into western countries, and the rampant crimes being committed with the migrants, Hillary wants to help get those people here, and it will become the same as Europe.

It was a weaker video, but hopefully it's a reader to something bigger. I think PVA did the same strategy for the voter fraud and hostile protestors videos. Put out a short teaser that leads to a main piece.

[Blaster]

(10-19-2016 10:41 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 09:57 PM)kbell Wrote:  

Huma on letting all Syrians in. And how Syrian refugees like Hillary and will illegally vote for her if they get to the US.

This was by far their weakest video. Huma didn't say anything significant and the Syrians said they want Hillary to fix the Syrian problem (which is way too vague to pin her to any specific problem).

Sure, they said they would enter another country via a fake passport but that's not exactly a huge exposé.

Yeah, that one won't turn any democrats/independents. Might help a little with some of the slightly less cucked cuckservatives, though.

[Slim Shady]

Carlos Slim's blog forced to cover the James O'Keefe videos, and acknowledge their legitimacy!

James O'Keefe's comment on FB: This New York Times article on Project Veritas in Friday's print edition is fair and thorough. It must have killed the reporters to write this line; "The videos were an embarrassment for Mrs. Clinton at a moment when she is trying to frame Mr. Trump’s claims of a rigged election as nothing more than the fevered dreams of a conspiracy theorist."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/pol...llies.html

[philosophical_recovery]

MiniTrue says that you shouldn't believe what's in these videos.

This is going to bury them if Monday's video is particularly spicy.

James is claiming it is.

[LeoneVolpe]

(10-21-2016 07:31 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

MiniTrue says that you shouldn't believe what's in these videos.

This is going to bury them if Monday's video is particularly spicy.

James is claiming it is.

We all knew the left was going to lie and try to downplay the significance of the videos. After all, lying is what they're best at, right? However, it's pretty goddamn bold to deny the validity of Project Veritas before all of O'Keefe's videos have been released. Essentially, the left has decided to go all-in on their denials and come Monday, I hope O'Keefe's got something that will make sure their collective goose is fucking cooked.

[budoslavic]

Joe Biggs of Infowars tweeted this:

Quote:

Joe Biggs ‏@Rambobiggs 7 hours ago
If anything happens to @JamesOKeefeIII before next videos are released, myself and Alex have the Deadman Switch to get that footage out!
1:45 PM - 21 Oct 2016

Joe Biggs ‏@Rambobiggs
Just Spoke With Project Veritas. They Said the next Videos to be released are NUCLEAR. It will pull the last pillar down on a corrupt house.
12:33 PM - 21 Oct 2016

[SamuelBRoberts]

My guess is they've got video of a Hillary meltdown.

We know she's nuts.

[philosophical_recovery]

(10-21-2016 09:53 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 07:31 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

MiniTrue says that you shouldn't believe what's in these videos.

This is going to bury them if Monday's video is particularly spicy.

James is claiming it is.

We all knew the left was going to lie and try to downplay the significance of the videos. After all, lying is what they're best at, right? However, it's pretty goddamn bold to deny the validity of Project Veritas before all of O'Keefe's videos have been released. Essentially, the left has decided to go all-in on their denials and come Monday, I hope O'Keefe's got something that will make sure their collective goose is fucking cooked.

They took some clear lessons in persuasion here. By wikileaks and veritas taking their sweet ass time, they are paying out rope for the democrats to hang themselves completely.

All of this shit is going to bite. People are more and more knowledgeable about how corrupt their government is.

And after The Don went and firebombed their shillster dinner, I can't see him backing down.

I've been waiting for this action for well over a decade.

[rotekz]

Delete - new vid already posted in Trump thread.