I have been meaning to chime in on the posts about how value of foreigners, white or otherwise, seems to be dropping below that of the local guys in many countries. Seems like a lot of "intel" is being dropped by posters in former P-Paridise locations, Kiev, Bangkok and Manila, for starters, and some solid spots heretofore, like China (Hangzhou, Shenzhen, Shanghai, etc.) and Colombia. Other spots as well.
In the past few months, i've been on the move (if you're surprised, I guess you don't know me very well). This year alone I've spent time in Austria, Hungary, France, Greece, Switzerland, Argentina, Malaysia, China (north and south), Hong Kong, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Qatar, Indonesia, Cambodia, Nepal, Bangladesh, the USA and the Bahamas. I've been to Thailand, Bangladesh, the Philippines and Indonesia multiple times this year alone. I've travelled around China a decent amount.
I am a keen observer (I hope) of human behavior. I tend to watch interactions women have in public pretty carefully. Also, as I enter the third quartile of life, I have a decent amount of experience on which to base comparisons, and a high enough notch count, many with fine women, that my opinion should carry some weight. Its just one vote, but its an informed vote.
And here's my opinion about these threads and opinions.
Man the fuck up.
I've never seen so much whining from guys who in one breath spout about their masculinity, beating their chests in a crescendo of rising testosterone in one breathe, and then complaining about not being able to get their dicks wet in the next.
I am fortunate enough to travel around and meet up with some of the most well known posters on the travel boards. Our group (and we meet up often) is the BGM meet up group - we've met in Bangkok and in Manila this year, and there was a third meeting in Saigon which I was unable to attend due to other travel. I've separately met up with forum members on at least five or six other trips Ive taken just the first nine months of this year, both including guys who are part of the BGM meet ups and other guys who are well-known, well-travelled posters.
Let me tell you, Chicken Little. The sky isn't falling, not quite yet. I've had a fucking banner year, at 46, for laying high-end broads. Last year was pretty damn good too. I'm no more handsome than the next guy, I don't hit the gym near enough, my scalp is becoming more and more visible through my hair, and I'm far from loaded (though I admit, I can project that lifestyle pretty well). I cannot (and won't try to) count my notches this year - dozens of girls, in various countries, have gotten Global Entried. Don't believe me - well, there are plenty of guys here to substantiate, and also, fuck you.
And I am not just talking about the Philippines. Yes, of course i dipped my wick repeatedly (including with some quality tail, again verifiable by a super-respected forum member) when I was there twice this year - why wouldn't I. However, China, being claimed in various threads, including my SZ thread, as a locale where game has stopped working - well, I unfortunately broke off with my LTR a month ago (a good gal, but just not quite the right match I guess), and the shit is already rocking and rolling. I don't speak great Chinese. I try, and I am trying more now. And I don't see the enormous issue all of a sudden with getting laid in China.
And while we're on the subject of China, two points.
1. And this applies across the board - being white is not game. If you think your game is being white, you have no game. Can it be an advantage some places - sure. But in general, you get what you pay for and if you're relying on being white and being white alone, you'll hit a ceiling fairly fucking quickly.
2. Those of you arguing that knowing the language in the country in which you live (at least speaking and understanding it) has no value - are you kidding me? In what world is this possible. Would you move back to the USA/England/Australia/France/Italy/Germany/wherever you came from and not want to be able to speak your local language? If not, then shut the fuck up about learning Chinese in China, Thai in Thailand, Japanese in Japan, arabic in the middle east, having no value. How much value, well, thats in part up to you and how you use it in your career, social circumstances, etc. I guess you have the option to crawl back into your grandmother's basement instead and read some more manga online, but for those of us actually living in the world and interacting and communicating....please stop it with that ridiculousness.
Every day recently it seems there is a new post or five, if not a new thread, about how this place or that place is played out. Makes me not even want to look at the travel forum, and I am not alone in this reaction. Guys saying Ukraine (which admittedly I haven't visited but is a familiar locale to many of our group) is played out based on a single street in the country being overrun with PUA bullshit. OK, so how about trying somewhere else. (Maybe getting out of the center, or into a different city (local language would be useful, huh??). Same shit with Bangkok, guys whining about competition for (hookers) girls on Soi 11. I've never failed there to bang good looking women (character might be a different issue). Bangkok is fucking enormous. Where else have you tried - other than Soi 11/Route 66? BKK played out - even if that were possibly true, its a country of what, 100 million people - one city is done. How about trying something new, rather than whining about the fact that your regurgitated attempts at an existence aren't as fulfilling as you hoped - perhaps they're only commensurate to the effort you've put in.
Finally, and I really mean this, for guys running game on holiday, if you're traveling solely to get laid, then you should consider the fact that perhaps the issue is you haven't worked enough on yourself to be interesting to the type of women you desire. Life experience is interesting - a foreigner with some life experience, with some judgment and experience in the local culture, enough at least so as not to embarrass himself (I could tell you stories in China/Thailand about foreigners inadvertently insulting people and embarrassing themselves). In general, guys who travel solely to get laid, well, they're not nearly as likely to have that kind of life experience that would make them more interesting than the average yard snail.
Enough whining - take control of your situation and figure it out. Its not rocket science (as Kai likes to say). Differentiate yourself. Try to understand the local population a little bit - you might get a lot further than just viewing local girls as fish for sale on a table. Throw in a little empathy (which comes first from a basic understanding of the culture, and which is typically not developed by standing around on Soi 11).
And enjoy the travel for what its worth - the surest way not to get laid (with a chick worth laying) is to look like you're trying really hard to get laid.
In the past few months, i've been on the move (if you're surprised, I guess you don't know me very well). This year alone I've spent time in Austria, Hungary, France, Greece, Switzerland, Argentina, Malaysia, China (north and south), Hong Kong, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Qatar, Indonesia, Cambodia, Nepal, Bangladesh, the USA and the Bahamas. I've been to Thailand, Bangladesh, the Philippines and Indonesia multiple times this year alone. I've travelled around China a decent amount.
I am a keen observer (I hope) of human behavior. I tend to watch interactions women have in public pretty carefully. Also, as I enter the third quartile of life, I have a decent amount of experience on which to base comparisons, and a high enough notch count, many with fine women, that my opinion should carry some weight. Its just one vote, but its an informed vote.
And here's my opinion about these threads and opinions.
Man the fuck up.
I've never seen so much whining from guys who in one breath spout about their masculinity, beating their chests in a crescendo of rising testosterone in one breathe, and then complaining about not being able to get their dicks wet in the next.
I am fortunate enough to travel around and meet up with some of the most well known posters on the travel boards. Our group (and we meet up often) is the BGM meet up group - we've met in Bangkok and in Manila this year, and there was a third meeting in Saigon which I was unable to attend due to other travel. I've separately met up with forum members on at least five or six other trips Ive taken just the first nine months of this year, both including guys who are part of the BGM meet ups and other guys who are well-known, well-travelled posters.
Let me tell you, Chicken Little. The sky isn't falling, not quite yet. I've had a fucking banner year, at 46, for laying high-end broads. Last year was pretty damn good too. I'm no more handsome than the next guy, I don't hit the gym near enough, my scalp is becoming more and more visible through my hair, and I'm far from loaded (though I admit, I can project that lifestyle pretty well). I cannot (and won't try to) count my notches this year - dozens of girls, in various countries, have gotten Global Entried. Don't believe me - well, there are plenty of guys here to substantiate, and also, fuck you.
And I am not just talking about the Philippines. Yes, of course i dipped my wick repeatedly (including with some quality tail, again verifiable by a super-respected forum member) when I was there twice this year - why wouldn't I. However, China, being claimed in various threads, including my SZ thread, as a locale where game has stopped working - well, I unfortunately broke off with my LTR a month ago (a good gal, but just not quite the right match I guess), and the shit is already rocking and rolling. I don't speak great Chinese. I try, and I am trying more now. And I don't see the enormous issue all of a sudden with getting laid in China.
And while we're on the subject of China, two points.
1. And this applies across the board - being white is not game. If you think your game is being white, you have no game. Can it be an advantage some places - sure. But in general, you get what you pay for and if you're relying on being white and being white alone, you'll hit a ceiling fairly fucking quickly.
2. Those of you arguing that knowing the language in the country in which you live (at least speaking and understanding it) has no value - are you kidding me? In what world is this possible. Would you move back to the USA/England/Australia/France/Italy/Germany/wherever you came from and not want to be able to speak your local language? If not, then shut the fuck up about learning Chinese in China, Thai in Thailand, Japanese in Japan, arabic in the middle east, having no value. How much value, well, thats in part up to you and how you use it in your career, social circumstances, etc. I guess you have the option to crawl back into your grandmother's basement instead and read some more manga online, but for those of us actually living in the world and interacting and communicating....please stop it with that ridiculousness.
Every day recently it seems there is a new post or five, if not a new thread, about how this place or that place is played out. Makes me not even want to look at the travel forum, and I am not alone in this reaction. Guys saying Ukraine (which admittedly I haven't visited but is a familiar locale to many of our group) is played out based on a single street in the country being overrun with PUA bullshit. OK, so how about trying somewhere else. (Maybe getting out of the center, or into a different city (local language would be useful, huh??). Same shit with Bangkok, guys whining about competition for (hookers) girls on Soi 11. I've never failed there to bang good looking women (character might be a different issue). Bangkok is fucking enormous. Where else have you tried - other than Soi 11/Route 66? BKK played out - even if that were possibly true, its a country of what, 100 million people - one city is done. How about trying something new, rather than whining about the fact that your regurgitated attempts at an existence aren't as fulfilling as you hoped - perhaps they're only commensurate to the effort you've put in.
Finally, and I really mean this, for guys running game on holiday, if you're traveling solely to get laid, then you should consider the fact that perhaps the issue is you haven't worked enough on yourself to be interesting to the type of women you desire. Life experience is interesting - a foreigner with some life experience, with some judgment and experience in the local culture, enough at least so as not to embarrass himself (I could tell you stories in China/Thailand about foreigners inadvertently insulting people and embarrassing themselves). In general, guys who travel solely to get laid, well, they're not nearly as likely to have that kind of life experience that would make them more interesting than the average yard snail.
Enough whining - take control of your situation and figure it out. Its not rocket science (as Kai likes to say). Differentiate yourself. Try to understand the local population a little bit - you might get a lot further than just viewing local girls as fish for sale on a table. Throw in a little empathy (which comes first from a basic understanding of the culture, and which is typically not developed by standing around on Soi 11).
And enjoy the travel for what its worth - the surest way not to get laid (with a chick worth laying) is to look like you're trying really hard to get laid.
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Strip away judeo-christian ethics ingraining sex is dirty/bad & the idea we're taking advantage of these girls disintegrates. Once you've lost that ethical quandary (which it isn't outside religion) then they've no reason to play the victim, you've no reason to feel the rogue. The interaction is to their benefit.
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