[Armada]

I have a middle aged lady friend who is in a sense my surrogate mom who I trust and talk to about stuff every so often. Today she was talking about a possible career path for me- she thinks I would really enjoy hairdressing and being in a beauty salon.

I was a bit skeptical but I uncovered the big reasons why she thought it would be perfectly suitable for me:

1) It's easy work, and she knows much much hard work stresses me out
2) I'd be surrounded by hot girls my age, and it should be easy for me to talk to/seduce them, especially as the few guys who would be doing it are most likely fags
3) I have long hair and nails, so she thinks it's a "thing" I'd be into. Although I'm not really into the "fashion" side of things as such.
4) I enjoy judging girls by their looks, and she thinks I would really love it if I was put in a situation where I had close to free rein to say what I really thought would improve a girl physically(she's right! I would enjoy this)
5) It's only about a year of studying, and it should be trivial for me to pay off my loans
6) If I get really good at it, I could be invited to professional fashion stuff and maybe even get to travel to some cool places, like overseas to Hollywood even

The main reasons why it might not be for me:

1) I have a bad sensitivity to chemicals. Though she thinks it mainly is a colorant thing and if I specialise in cutting/makeup it wouldn't be an issue. Especially if I manage to get a job in an "organic" product place without chemicals. I'd have to work with color with the lessons/course but whatever, I should just suck it up.
2) I don't actually believe in a lot of stuff a salon does(haircuts, among other things). She tells me to stop being autistic about it, and while still being honest about what I think, she says girls who go to a salon to get stuff done are happy about it, even if I don't agree it's worth it.
3) It seems "faggy". But I'm completely straight, so it's really all in my head. I don't think this would really stop me.

If anyone who's in the industry is reading, what do you all think? I'm thinking it just might be a great option for me.

[king bast]

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

3) It seems "faggy".

Yes. Trust that instinct - It seems faggy, because it is.

Bear in mind you'd be immersed in this fagginess for 40-odd hours a week. Is contact with some hot girls (and a lot of heifers too) worth that sort of soul-crushing existence?

[weambulance]

Everyone you ever meet will assume you're gay.

[General Stalin]

Awful idea. Pay is garbage, proper access to good pussy would surely not be as great and easy as you might think, and... Its gay as fuck. Better idea:

Take a bartending course. Become a bartender at a relatively low-traffic bar. It will be low stress and you will have better and easier access to girls. Class would be far cheaper too and you get status by default. Bitches like bartenders.

[redbeard]

Edit: Instead, consider Becoming a Barber

[Thomas the Rhymer]

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

3) I have long hair and nails

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

long hair and nails

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

nails

Say what? Are these what your hands look like?:



I think you have some issues. Ditch the surrogate 'mother' and get a male mentor who can give you proper guidance and advice. And cut your nails.

[Chemistry]

How old are you?
What do you currently do?
Do you have any goals you set for yourself (not because others suggest it)?

aaannnddd...Are you currently getting laid? Or is the thought of being in a room with hot girls a major part of the allure ?

[AboveAverageJoe]

Long nails? No wonder hard works stress you out. Stop watching Adam Sandlers Zohan, it is a Hollywood film and you are not ex-Mossad.
If your game was strong I would suggest Pimping since that is the only manly occupation where long hair and nails are acceptable. That is also why many Pimps are effeminate.

[Armada]

I'm 20. Currently living with my parents and on/off looking for a job. My goals are to save up enough money to escape this Western country I live in, travel, bang some EE bitches. I also want to get better at the sports hobbies I like, which are parkour and gymnastics.

Not currently getting laid, no. I like the idea of being in close proximity with hot girls and being in their social circle and likely still would(enjoy talking to hot girls) even if I was getting laid with mediocre girls often, just for flirting and opportunity.

I'd much rather touch girls' hair than mens'. Nothing wrong with the latter, just not my thing.

Hard work stressing me out has nothing to do with my long nails. It's a long story.

In terms of work, I didn't really have a good direction for where I wanted to go with it. They all seemed varying levels of bad, and I think I'll just have to suck it up. Which is why when my surrogate mom suggested it, she really thinks it would be a good fit for me. I think she's pretty trustworthy too- she's a housewife who's raising two stand up kids and she has alt-right and anti-feminist beliefs, etc. I don't know any male mentors unfortunately.

Bartending seems like a great idea. I'd definitely look into it. If what you say is true, it's a lot better than hairdressing.

[Rocha]

Go for it, I think it is an excellent way to meet women, and women who will introduce you to other women, I only see positives in that career, and if you excel and get into the fashion industry it is just the cherry on top of the cake...

But, just get rid of those long nails and long hair, get a jacked and super macho look, and also get yourself in hobbies/activities that make you more masculine and surrounded by masculine men, Martial Arts, Mountaineering, hunting...otherwise you may end up on the other side

[Off The Reservation]

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

I have a middle aged lady friend who is in a sense my surrogate mom who I trust and talk to about stuff every so often. Today she was talking about a possible career path for me- she thinks I would really enjoy hairdressing and being in a beauty salon.

I was a bit skeptical but I uncovered the big reasons why she thought it would be perfectly suitable for me:

1) It's easy work, and she knows much much hard work stresses me out
2) I'd be surrounded by hot girls my age, and it should be easy for me to talk to/seduce them, especially as the few guys who would be doing it are most likely fags
3) I have long hair and nails, so she thinks it's a "thing" I'd be into. Although I'm not really into the "fashion" side of things as such.
4) I enjoy judging girls by their looks, and she thinks I would really love it if I was put in a situation where I had close to free rein to say what I really thought would improve a girl physically(she's right! I would enjoy this)
5) It's only about a year of studying, and it should be trivial for me to pay off my loans
6) If I get really good at it, I could be invited to professional fashion stuff and maybe even get to travel to some cool places, like overseas to Hollywood even

The main reasons why it might not be for me:

1) I have a bad sensitivity to chemicals. Though she thinks it mainly is a colorant thing and if I specialise in cutting/makeup it wouldn't be an issue. Especially if I manage to get a job in an "organic" product place without chemicals. I'd have to work with color with the lessons/course but whatever, I should just suck it up.
2) I don't actually believe in a lot of stuff a salon does(haircuts, among other things). She tells me to stop being autistic about it, and while still being honest about what I think, she says girls who go to a salon to get stuff done are happy about it, even if I don't agree it's worth it.
3) It seems "faggy". But I'm completely straight, so it's really all in my head. I don't think this would really stop me.

If anyone who's in the industry is reading, what do you all think? I'm thinking it just might be a great option for me.

This is just not a good idea unless you are already cutting hair of your friends for free, because you love doing it. Sounds like that's not the case, instead it is someone else's random idea. Think of it like this, if you were passionately fixing all manner of cars and bikes on your time off from school on weekends it would make perfect sense if you wanted to go get your mechanic's certification. From your points:

1. Its very hard work you are sadly mistaken. Its absolutely exhausting, and the pressure to do your job well and keep on a schedule is directly tied to your pay, and if you can't keep up you are fired.
2. While all chance encounters are also chances to meet and game, no girl goes to get her hair done to get hit on. Of course you will meet some but real professionals (and any who are making money) are busy doing the work and the talk is very minimal. Stylists are paid to do a job not to entertain.
3. Wtf? So you can't decide what you are into without such indirect references from someone else?
4. This is not at all what goes on.
5. Some jobs have a one day training program what difference does that make?
6. Lazy dream of some free "benefit" instead of the work itself.
And
1. Wrong job for you.
2. Wrong job for you, or you are you trolling us if you post about going to hairdresser school but you don't believe in haircuts, right??? Listen to yourself dude, this woman is guiding you to do something you don't believe in. How about doing what you do believe in.
3. This is not the problem, and is unrelated to the issue.

The problem is twofold, you don't want to work and you are getting advice from a middle age woman for a young man. That's like getting your diet advice at the local 70's style all you can eat buffet, all comfort food and no discipline.

Regardless of the profession involved, any potential entrant to that profession who looks at it as an easy way to do nothing is basically insulting the profession.

I suggest you find some MEN that you respect, that have achieved things in life, and hang around with them instead of this woman who wants it easy for you and feeds your desire to avoid stress. Real men will tell you that doing things requires work and sometimes you will experience things that are stressful or difficult and this is what makes you better.

You will not get any ideas that are any good from a middle age woman who enjoys feeding your laziness and has no desire nor ability to push you.

Although I am writing this having co-owned a very high end salon for a few years with my ex, that is less important than that you should get your advice elsewhere. Your post is all about looking at her points and her advice and a "possible career path" that she came up with. Find a Dad or surrogate Dad, not this woman, to get suggestions from.

I am not here to evaluate your feelings about hair cuts, your opinion is yours. But when this woman calls you "autistic" for your beliefs maybe you should consider at least this part of the interaction slightly manipulative. Why would someone want to take advantage of your indecision and push you towards something you don't really believe in?

I glanced at some of your other posts and it seems you have a lot of PUA vocabulary. That's great, but being a man is going to involve thousands upon thousands of decisions in your life that don't have a cool acronym attached to them to convey instant bro to bro meaning.

As you can see I have intentionally diverted you from the specifics of hairdressing, to the theme of a man's decisions. Have a look at this Growth vs Comfort article from Roosh and good luck.

[Armada]

She's not trying to push anything on me. I'm currently stuck in a rut and have no real idea about what sort of work I want to do, and she's just coming up with possible ideas. Initially she suggested trades for me but I didn't really know what sort of trades I'd want to do, so she came up with this, trying to move me in a direction.

And the autistic comment was because we're both autistic and so we know what the mindset is like, and what the sticking point is. She wasn't insulting me, more trying to work with it.

In terms of pickup it's less that I make a move on the clients and more that I'm in an environment/social circle with other hot girls.

Obviously we realise I'd have to work hard to get anywhere so it's ultimately about finding the least shitty solution. My passions are going on the computer, parkour, gymnastics, and travelling to bang foreign bitches. But I don't think I'd get paid doing those so... Obviously I have to suck it up and do something I'm not passionate at

[LeoneVolpe]

Here's my two-cents:

As "faggy" as it sounds, a red pill guy can ABSOLUTELY snag plenty of poon working as a male hairdresser.

Haven't you guys ever seen the 1975 Warren Beatty movie, "Shampoo"?

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"Shampoo" on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073692/

"Shampoo" trailer on YouTube:

(SPOILERS AHEAD)

"Shampoo" was written by Robert Towne, and was loosely based on "The Country Wife," a Restoration comedy written in 1675 by William Wycherley, whose protagonist Horner feigns impotence in order to be allowed into the company of married women, who he then seduces. Beatty's character in "Shampoo" is considered non-threatening due to the stereotype that male hairdressers are gay, even though he spends nearly the entire movie banging every chick he comes into contact with.

Here are some comments from Robert Towne, the film's screenwriter, on his inspiration to write "Shampoo":

Quote:

I was going with a beautiful girl, a dancer – in fact, Fred Astaire’s last dancing partner. She was also an actress, but mainly a dancer. Anyway, she had been married, which I didn’t find out right away. I was twenty-three, and it was very unusual at the time for your girlfriend to have been divorced. She told me his name. Gene Shacove. I asked what he did. She said he was a hairdresser. It shocked the shit out of me, that such a beautiful girl would marry a hairdresser. Or that a hairdresser would marry a girl. Both were shocking. I asked what happened. She said, “Well, we’d been married about six weeks. He woke up one morning and said, ‘I don’t feel like being married anymore.’ I said, ‘What?!’ then asked what happened to him. She said he had a real successful shop. I asked if she ever saw him. ‘Yeah,’ she said. ‘Every week. He does my hair.’ They were still very good friends.

Towne continues,

I went down there to pick her up one day. I walked in, and there he was with his hair dryer, going like a bee from one flower to the next. The most beautiful girls, one right after another. I could not believe my eyes. The only rooster in the hen house. It was a revelation to me. Then I found other guys, like Dusty Fleming, who did the same. A whole subculture of wildly heterosexual guys with a great sense of design, who worked on human heads instead of pieces of paper. I was fascinated by it, thought it was a terrific subject.

Towne says that his script for the film was largely influenced by Jean Renoir’s La Règle du Jeu (1939). According to the sleeve notes for the Cinema Club video version of the film, the story was indeed based on hairdresser Gene Shacove, who served as a technical consultant on the film. It also played on men’s views of hairdressers as effete, consequently allowing them access to their most private chambers.

“What other guy gets regularly into the bedrooms and bathrooms of another guy’s wife?” said Shacove. “You’re working in close contact with a woman. All that touching and you make them beautiful, so they admire you. It’s women who seduce their hairdressers, not the other way around.”

Towne says that Beatty wanted to do a movie about a compulsive Don Juan. He believed he’d had What’s New Pussycat stolen [the title was the phrase Beatty used when calling his friends, including Charlie Feldman, the producer of that film] […] He asked how I would do it. I said that I’d do it somewhat like The Country Wife […] Warren said he thought that that was interesting, and asked how it would be done. “Would you use an actor who everybody thought was gay?” I told him I’d use a hairdresser. He looked at me. It took him about thirty seconds. He said, “You’re right.”

The working title was “Hair”.

Now, here are some of my own personal observations about the film -- there are some great red pill takeaways:

1.) Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks: George Roundy (Warren Beatty) versus Jack Warden (Lester Karpf)

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2.) Social Proof/Kitty Cats Compete: Women want George because other women want George. This plays out over and over again in the film. George himself doesn't really have to do much to seduce these women -- in his world, the highly female/homosexual world of hairdressing, a straight man is able to come out looking alpha and socially dominant quite easily.

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3.) Don't Chase 'Em/Replace 'Em: Seemingly George's modus operandi until he develops one-itis for one of his former lovers who is now involved with a married man.

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4.) One-itis: Self-explanatory.

5.) Female Hypergamy: Jackie (Julie Christie) doesn't mind having a fling with alpha George (Warren Beatty) but knows she will never have financial or sexual security with George and ultimately runs off with Lester (Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks)

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6.) Keep Two in the Kitty: Even though George is tapping Jill, a young actress played by Goldie Hawn, he obviously isn't interested in being a "kept man" and is still laying pipe on the side.

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TL;DR: I recommend watching "Shampoo". As I see it, it's a film which showcases what can happen when a player develops one-itis. The film ends on a somewhat somber note, but in reality, you know Beatty's character will live to fuck another day. In time, he'll laugh at himself for foolishly falling for a girl just because she's now become unavailable to him.

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As for pursuing hairdressing in real life...

You should know that only the high-end stylists make good money...In order to become a high-end stylist, you'll have to go to beauty school (a big financial investment), pass your state board exam, find a salon which will allow you to apprentice more experienced stylists and work your way up.

FYI: You will work your ass off as a stylist's apprentice and receive very little financial compensation. The only upside is you'll be around a lot of very attractive female apprentices/stylists -- many of whom, at least in California, have formerly worked in the modeling/adult entertainment industry.

If this sounds like something you can deal with, then by all means pursue it -- but it's not for everyone, and unless you really love what you do, you'll likely not stick with it. Many people who have cosmetology licenses get out of the business after a few years once they realize how hard it is to build a proper clientele.

Also, you need to draw a HARD LINE between your effeminate job and your outside-of-work hobbies. Suggestions include: MMA, weightlifting, motorcycling, hunting, skydiving, etc. You don't want to be working a pink collar job and have pink collar hobbies, like going to hair/makeup shows, etc., or else you'll just embarrass yourself by truly becoming "one of the girls".

P.S.: Be prepared to deal with A LOT of faggotry/SJW-types in the beauty industry. Needless to say, there's A LOT of cattiness/backstabbing. Many will be threatened by anyone overtly masculine and will do anything they can to thwart your success. Not to mention from a financial standpoint, fucking your clients might be fun in the short term, but do it too often and you wont keep them as clients for long once things inevitably go south. No clients = no money!

[Suits]

This career choice is fine, just as long as you buy a Harley and dress to match.

[Thomas the Rhymer]

Some grown men are giving you really good advice and you keep brushing it off. Why did you start this thread to begin with?

Here is my advice (which I'm sure you'll ignore):

- Don't take advice from women, ever. Rather be alone and autistic than with a woman and autistic. Women will sabotage you, as this woman is clearly trying to sabotage you and instead of realising it, you are instead defending her.

- Cut your damn nails. No one is going to take you seriously if you are a guy with long nails. I don't know if you think it's some sort of rebellious mark of individuality on your part, but a real man should be judged on the stuff he does, not on superficialities like long hair and long nails. If you are that much into your appearance that long nails are important to you, then there is something wrong with your mindset.

For example, how do you intend to finger a girl if you have long nails? What girl would ever want your claws up her vagina? And yet you say you want to get laid. CUT YOUR NAILS! And get a haircut while you're at it.

When you are a rich eccentric millionaire then you can grow your nails long, but for now long nails are probably as endearing to future employers as face tattoos. Long nails, and to some extent long hair, shows that you are more interested in being pretty than in getting work done. This will make it harder for you to get a job.

- I find it very bizarre that in your parkour and gymnastics routine you have not made any male friends that can help you along with life, and to some extent be mentors. Is there not some local parkour club you could join? Or a gymnastics amateur team? Or some other exercise you like that has a social aspect? You need more male figures in your life, because men and women cannot be friends. It is unhealthy for a man to have female friends. As autistic as you claim to be, you need to get out there and try to make male acquaintances, at least.

I don't know if you can afford it, but joining a decent weightlifting gym would be of immense help, because you'd probably find a decent amount of men who could be possible mentors. If you can't afford a gym membership, maybe just join a gym as an employee, a lot of gyms let staff members work out for free (I had a friend in high school who magically transformed from goofy beta to amazing alpha once he became a gym employee and got to do his workouts for free). Generally, guys that lift weights are better men than guys that don't. Weightlifting builds character like few other activities do. It goes without saying that I recommend you take up weightlifting yourself.

- Going back to the beauty salon thing. The real money is owning a beauty salon, not in being the technician in the salon, but you have to understand the industry first and build your way up, I'm sure. But rather than asking the internet about the career, go to an actual beauty salon, ask to speak to the owner, explain that you want to spend a few days observing the business because you are considering a career in beauty. A lot of people will say no but if you ask enough people and you are humble and polite about it, someone will say yes. Then spend some time at beauty salons and shadowing the manager and employees and see what the industry is about. This will give you a better idea about the work than anything you can pick up in a forum.

- All jobs suck, to some extent. No job you will ever choose will ever be 100% wonderful. So a man must sometimes just suck it up and go for a career and stick to it, even if he thinks it's not nice. If the career truly sucks, a man can also career shift later on in life. But before you know what work you really want to do, YOU HAVE TO WORK. So stop analysing different jobs and actually get working.

Go walk around your town, and ask people what work they do, and if you can job shadow them. If you don't like personal contact, make an email list of people in your area and email them, asking if you can come observe them just for a day so that you can figure out a career for yourself. Get to know different jobs, and when doing the observerships, ask what opportunities are available for someone like you. You might get a job offer just by talking to people.

If you can't find someone to give you a job, then make some work. You like computers? Then do a free online course in JavaScript and then force yourself to make some apps. Even if they suck, you will grow far more from poor app making than from giving yourself another manicure and having another long introspective hair brushing session.

DO SOMETHING! BE USEFUL! or at least try to be useful.

Last, but not least:
- CUT YOUR NAILS, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!


You are receiving good advice from men with more life experience than you. So far in this thread you've been very defensive and it sounds like you don't really want to be a better man. That's your choice in life, but don't throw out the advice given in this thread (especially by Off The Reservation, who has provided the best post so far) just because it makes you uncomfortable to read it (and if you are talking about 'less shitty solutions' then you clearly are deep inside a comfort zone at the moment - you are running away from things instead of running toward opportunities. Bear in mind, that there are men who achieved far more with a poorer start, and it was not with an attitude of finding the 'less shitty solution'.)

[Lagavulin]

Your priorities should be to:

1. Identify the issues that cause hard work to stress you out
2. Fix them

You'll never get anywhere in life by running away from your problems.

[travolta]

If hard work stresses you out then you're destined to fail at life. Stop being a bitch, nobody is going to give you anything

[asdfk]

I know a male hairdresser back home who is a total badass. Immigrant dude, lots of tattoos, one of the best hairdressers of my country (won many prizes, etc). Not a feminine type by a long stretch. He is proud of what he does, and wouldn't care the least bit what people on a random forum think.

He has fucked his way through a ton of beautiful women, has made a lot of money and is a master at his craft. If you discard all the reactions written by men who are worse off then him, I'm curious how much would remain.

I don't think there's anything wrong with hating hard work. You'll have to find the thing that makes hard work bearable. If you don't find it, you'll ironically will have to work hard for the rest of your live to scrape by. That's a reality.

It can be done as a hairdresser, but don't get your hopes up before you've tried it for a while. Oh, and instead of going to school, find an awesome dude who's one of the best in the field, and do whatever it takes to get coached by him. No point wasting your time by going to school.

[Kona]

If you get involved in this business let me tell you what's gonna happen: Eventually you'll wind up waxing vaginas.

Its not all svelte 18 year old girls coming in before prom night. Its grandmas getting ready for their trip to the lake. They wax once a year.

Now you like this old lady, I get that. If you can picture yourself getting hands on with her greying vagina, go for it.

Aloha!

[UlteriorMotive]

My initial reaction to this thread



There is a lot of good advice in this thread. Don't be another askhole who doesn't follow through.

I have a friend who is a hairdresser / male model and he has said to me on numerous ocassions that he is tired of people thinking he is gay straight off the bat. It's also an incredibly bitchy environment.

Being surrounded by all that estrogen and braindead chatter would drive me insane.

[iknowexactly]

One thing to keep in mind: To be good at this requires a particular talent, like most fields.
I've gotten haircuts from people who were not gentle, scraped my scalp with combs etc.

You are in reality creating everyday sculptures for people. If you're not naturally good at something it's always harder to do the job. I used to be a mediocre computer programmer and switched to another career that is roughly comparable in pay but at which I am naturally good, and if you're tired and and in a shitty mood it sure is good to be able to phone it in and still be better than most of the competition.

[Tex Cruise]

Something that it seems no one else has brought up is that in order to do this you would need to:

a) Give off a genuine and completely disarming "Just-one-of-the-girls" gay vibe (i.e. actually be a flaming homo), or

b) Be the absolute number one most attractive man that every single customer ever comes in contact with.

Otherwise it is not a matter of if, but when, a client feels "creeped out" by your mere presence.

Women don't like it when men that don't give them tingles enter their personal space, and entering people's personal space is part of cutting their hair. I can't count the number of fat lady hairdresser titties I've had pressed against me in my lifetime.

Best case scenario; A lot of clients simply stop coming to the salon, or ask for "not that guy" to do their hair, until the manager is forced to "let you go".
Most likely scenario; One or more women or girls complain to your (female) boss about you creeping them out even if you have done nothing at all wrong.

When some (Let's say underage to make it really interesting) bitch decides that she didn't like the way you stroked (acidentally brushed your hand on) her neck while heavily breathing (breathing normally) and pressing your crotch into her (slightly bumping her with any part of your body)... I wouldn't want to be you.

[dispenser]

You sound like you dress like a metalhead. That won't go down well.

You also sound like your hair is untended - which is not the same thing as being short. You ought to look like Chris Hemsworth or Christian Bale.

Get those nails manicured. If they're dirty, rough, or of uneven length, they will disgust your customers.

Basically, if you really intend to do this, you need to look pimplike.

[Chemistry]

Thanks for answering my questions from above (age, are you getting laid, etc) and providing extra details for others.

I asked my series of questions because I can remember being in my early 20s and thinking I could do X Y and Z to put myself in positions where I could (in theory) make a move, get practice flirting, simply be in daily contact with girls .. that way I can "hone my craft" without actually having to approach, right?

I guess it means I'm older now, when I don't want to see other young guys flounder around like I did back then. It's a fantasy life that you've romanticized in your own head, and there's little chance it'll go down as you probably imagine. If you want to be around hot girls, your first order of business is approaching, talking to, and getting laid occasionally with girls ... as opposed to giving away a year of your life to train for a job that simply puts you in a position where you think you'll be able to flirt with some.

(09-23-2016 09:55 PM)Armada Wrote:  

My passions are going on the computer, parkour, gymnastics, and travelling to bang foreign bitches. But I don't think I'd get paid doing those so... Obviously I have to suck it up and do something I'm not passionate at

+1 on the suggestion to try coding. There's a thread here about learning it, there are Coursera courses and free websites devoted to help you learn, and plenty other threads here detailing how dudes went from Zero to Some Income learning how to code. Freelance coding is one of the jobs that allows you to travel and work at the same time, once you have a client base.

[cascadecombo]

(09-22-2016 10:25 PM)king bast Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 10:18 PM)Armada Wrote:  

3) It seems "faggy".

Yes. Trust that instinct - It seems faggy, because it is.

Bear in mind you'd be immersed in this fagginess for 40-odd hours a week. Is contact with some hot girls (and a lot of heifers too) worth that sort of soul-crushing existence?

I'm going to have to go the opposite. If you are good at what you do, it won't be "faggy" simply because you think it as such. There are advantages and disadvantages to every world, I personally wouldn't mind so much if that was my profession. I know I could spin it in my favor easily.