[Fortis]

Kona is my hero. Holy shit.

[iop890]

(08-21-2016 09:29 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I will routinely punch in roasted chickens or a whole pot roast as bulk potatoes and get a whole hunk of meat for like $8.

Almonds magically become peanuts.

Red peppers magically become bananas.

Actually lots of things become banana as they are dirt cheap.

Be right back, going to Walmart to buy 12 porterhouses "ears of corn".

[LeeEnfield303]

Heh.

No one on earth can make me buy another sixer of Buttwiper.

[Enigma]

(08-21-2016 07:41 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Come on Enigma!

You're taking an article from (((Bloomberg))), a MSM outlet which has been exposed as an establishment mouthpiece for monied liberal elites. You don't think there isn't an agenda they're trying to push here? Specifically, that WalMart attracts a white trash clientele?

The article comes off as Walmart bashing plain and simple. All of the major retailers have problems with theft and crime which is the point I was trying to make. Some are better than others simply on the basis of the locations that they serve. The Target I worked at had cops coming by every other week for various incidences. Did we rely on them? No, we just served a large area that brought different groups of people in.

I'm willing to bet that there's probably an understaffed Target or Kmart out there with the exact same problem.

I'll take my anecdotal experiences over something some two bit journalism major stuck together any day. Frankly, my experience with Trump, the 2016 February meetups, and Roosh's World Tour have me pretty much sceptical of all of the news coming out of any major news network these days.

You really can't trust any story from any major news outlet. At best, you have a rough idea of what is going on, at worst a complete fabrication.

Let's not forget some other great headlines from Bloomberg that graced this article and yet we're supposed to take this one as 100% accurate because they cited facts and figures. Which somehow make their points more valid than mine. You kidding me with that one Enigma?

Here are some other lovely articles from Bloomberg:
1. Did Donald Trump's executives violate the Cuban Embargo?
2. A Future in which Stockbrokers Turn to Mugging
3. Elizabeth Warren on Donald Trump and TPP
4. What it takes to build a Mosque in New Hampshire

Come on bud, the Trump thread is loaded with thousands examples of poorly spun facts and figures to prove liberal talking points, yet in your view the collective anecdotal experience of thousands of people don't matter over the facts given by some presstitute.

We're somewhere in between both of those two points I mentioned previously . There most likely isn't an "out of control" crime problem at WalMart stores any more than there's an out of control crime problem at JCPenny's or Kmart.

The "agenda" that they're pushing is that Walmart's cutting corners, hurting communities, and taking advantage of the taxpayers in order to continue lining their pockets.

All of that is PRO-TRUMP, which is precisely the reason I found the article interesting enough to post here.

If you can show me the claim in this article that Walmart's crime problems are a product of "white trash clientele", feel free. But I've highlighted sections in the OP where they specifically say that is NOT the case.

Quote:

He can’t believe, he says, that a multibillion-dollar corporation isn’t doing more to stop crime. Instead, he says, it offloads the job to the police at taxpayers’ expense.

Quote:

There’s nothing inevitable about the level of crime at Walmart. It’s the direct, if unintended, result of corporate policy.

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“Target doesn’t have these problems,” says Ferguson. “Part of it may be the lower prices at Walmart or where Walmart is located, but when I walk into Target I see uniformed security or someone walking around up front. You see no one at Walmart. It just seems like an easy target.”

Here are even more.

Quote:

Its executives “could clean it up in a matter of a year were they to be given the financial support from the board,” says Burt Flickinger, managing director of retailing consultant Strategic Resource Group.

Quote:

“The board doesn’t want profits to fall,” says Flickinger. “They simply lack the retail business background to understand how important security is.”

Quote:

He estimates the number of crimes at Walmart’s U.S. stores could be halved with the addition of 250,000 part-time employees on top of the more than 1 million full-time and part-time retail workers the company already has.

Quote:

Security experts say there’s another way to reduce crime: Hire much more security, including more off-duty, uniformed police.

Quote:

According to laws in every state in the U.S., Walmart has a duty to protect its customers from violent crime while they’re on store property. Under an area of the law known as premise liability, victims and their lawyers have argued in hundreds of lawsuits that Walmart failed to provide enough security.

Quote:

That meant the threat of a $2,500 fine for every call to the police. Walmart now pays for off-duty police to man the store, and the pressure on the local police has eased.

Come on TheBeast1! You kidding me with that one?

Where are the things about their clientele being the cause? Feel free to quote them here.

[The Beast1]

(08-21-2016 11:32 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 07:41 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Come on Enigma!

You're taking an article from (((Bloomberg))), a MSM outlet which has been exposed as an establishment mouthpiece for monied liberal elites. You don't think there isn't an agenda they're trying to push here? Specifically, that WalMart attracts a white trash clientele?

The article comes off as Walmart bashing plain and simple. All of the major retailers have problems with theft and crime which is the point I was trying to make. Some are better than others simply on the basis of the locations that they serve. The Target I worked at had cops coming by every other week for various incidences. Did we rely on them? No, we just served a large area that brought different groups of people in.

I'm willing to bet that there's probably an understaffed Target or Kmart out there with the exact same problem.

I'll take my anecdotal experiences over something some two bit journalism major stuck together any day. Frankly, my experience with Trump, the 2016 February meetups, and Roosh's World Tour have me pretty much sceptical of all of the news coming out of any major news network these days.

You really can't trust any story from any major news outlet. At best, you have a rough idea of what is going on, at worst a complete fabrication.

Let's not forget some other great headlines from Bloomberg that graced this article and yet we're supposed to take this one as 100% accurate because they cited facts and figures. Which somehow make their points more valid than mine. You kidding me with that one Enigma?

Here are some other lovely articles from Bloomberg:
1. Did Donald Trump's executives violate the Cuban Embargo?
2. A Future in which Stockbrokers Turn to Mugging
3. Elizabeth Warren on Donald Trump and TPP
4. What it takes to build a Mosque in New Hampshire

Come on bud, the Trump thread is loaded with thousands examples of poorly spun facts and figures to prove liberal talking points, yet in your view the collective anecdotal experience of thousands of people don't matter over the facts given by some presstitute.

We're somewhere in between both of those two points I mentioned previously . There most likely isn't an "out of control" crime problem at WalMart stores any more than there's an out of control crime problem at JCPenny's or Kmart.

The "agenda" that they're pushing is that Walmart's cutting corners, hurting communities, and taking advantage of the taxpayers in order to continue lining their pockets.

All of that is PRO-TRUMP, which is precisely the reason I found the article interesting enough to post here.

If you can show me the claim in this article that Walmart's crime problems are a product of "white trash clientele", feel free. But I've highlighted sections in the OP where they specifically say that is NOT the case.

Quote:

He can’t believe, he says, that a multibillion-dollar corporation isn’t doing more to stop crime. Instead, he says, it offloads the job to the police at taxpayers’ expense.

Quote:

There’s nothing inevitable about the level of crime at Walmart. It’s the direct, if unintended, result of corporate policy.

Quote:

“Target doesn’t have these problems,” says Ferguson. “Part of it may be the lower prices at Walmart or where Walmart is located, but when I walk into Target I see uniformed security or someone walking around up front. You see no one at Walmart. It just seems like an easy target.”

Here are even more.

Quote:

Its executives “could clean it up in a matter of a year were they to be given the financial support from the board,” says Burt Flickinger, managing director of retailing consultant Strategic Resource Group.

Quote:

“The board doesn’t want profits to fall,” says Flickinger. “They simply lack the retail business background to understand how important security is.”

Quote:

He estimates the number of crimes at Walmart’s U.S. stores could be halved with the addition of 250,000 part-time employees on top of the more than 1 million full-time and part-time retail workers the company already has.

Quote:

Security experts say there’s another way to reduce crime: Hire much more security, including more off-duty, uniformed police.

Quote:

According to laws in every state in the U.S., Walmart has a duty to protect its customers from violent crime while they’re on store property. Under an area of the law known as premise liability, victims and their lawyers have argued in hundreds of lawsuits that Walmart failed to provide enough security.

Quote:

That meant the threat of a $2,500 fine for every call to the police. Walmart now pays for off-duty police to man the store, and the pressure on the local police has eased.

Come on TheBeast1! You kidding me with that one?

Where are the things about their clientele being the cause? Feel free to quote them here.

To be fair Enigma, the real hero of this thread is Kona.

But since you asked nicely:

Quote:

he’s presented with an 18-year-old who tried to leave the store with a microwave oven. Ross focuses his gaze and talks in a low voice to the young man, who just graduated from high school and plans to go into the military. He also attempts to calm the boy’s mother, who rushed to the store and is worried that her son won’t be able to enlist if he gets a criminal record

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Before he can finish the paperwork, Walmart security employees catch another shoplifter. They bring in a middle-aged woman with big sunken eyes and pale cheeks, her hair tied in a messy bun. Employees caught her using phony gift cards. She rattles off excuses: The cards were given to her by a friend, she’s just gotten out of the hospital, she’s dehydrate. At one point she pretends to vomit into a trash can. Picking up the odor of pot, Ross takes a look in her handbag and finds marijuana roaches, along with a small scale and a pill bottle full of baggies. A computer check reveals five outstanding warrants for her arrest.

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Three hours into his shift, security employees bring in a young woman who’d been wandering around the store with an older man. They’d spotted her slipping on a pair of $15 gray sneakers, then attempting to leave without paying. The woman, in capri leggings and a hoodie, is brought to Ross. She turns her head and reveals an enormous black eye on the left side of her face. Ross moves toward her, and she instinctively flinches—a telltale sign of domestic abuse,

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She talks about how she’s been an alcoholic for most of her 29 years, how her three kids live with their dad because she knows she can’t care for them. She says her current partner beat her two days ago because she took her kids to the pool and had “too much fun.”

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The woman with the phony gift cards and marijuana quietly tells her that she too was in an abusive relationship. They talk in murmurs.

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The “T” on the Walmart sign has burnt out. Stray cats scrounge around. In the far reaches of the lot, people hunker down in their campers, vans, and U-Hauls for the night.

Since you're hell bent on comparing Target to Walmart, here's an article talking about Target's sex crime problems affecting their stores.

http://www.afa.net/the-stand/the-culture...-at-target

So TL;DR: for free stuff go to Walmart, for aloha snackbar style touching go to target.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Quote:

To be fair Enigma, the real hero of this thread is Kona.

Stealing some charcoal and yogurt from the local Walmart, then bragging about it online, doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a low-life.

[Kona]

(08-21-2016 10:38 PM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  

I still am more shocked that Kona would drink Budweiser than I am someone would scam the scanner line. In addition none of you guys have gone grocery shopping in Hawaii, food prices there almost makes stealing mandatory behavior.

Another excellent point.

A gallon of milk was $8 at Walmart (I think) and that is bullshit. They tell you things in Hawaii are more expensive due to shipping costs. That is bullshit, especially at Walmart.

Nobody ships more shit here than Walmart. I bet they pay less than a grand for a container from California. Another reason to say fuck you to them.

AND

I just realized there is a package of Johnsonville sweet Italian sausages NOT on my receipt from earlier. Those I stole completely by mistake.

If they can't control their shit why should I.

Aloha!

[El Chinito loco]

(08-22-2016 01:03 AM)Kona Wrote:  

They tell you things in Hawaii are more expensive due to shipping costs. That is bullshit, especially at Walmart.

Nobody ships more shit here than Walmart. I bet they pay less than a grand for a container from California. Another reason to say fuck you to them.

It's definitely bullshit. Hawaii is situated in a shipping lane that goes to and from asia from the west coast of the U.S.

You can find U.S. import goods in countries like the Philippines for cheaper than you can find in Hawaii.

Of course the shipping cost reason doesn't make any sense. There's no fuel surcharge which justifies the markup of consumer goods in Hawaii.

It's all based on local supply and demand as the retailers see it.

They have figured out how to collude and price fix in Hawaii. There's essentially a cartel of retailers and consumer goods supermarkets there which ensure prices are artificially very high.

Their profit margins must be absurd compared with the mainland USA like 1000%+ which is probably why they are so loose with loss prevention. They have already figured out they can have 1,000+ Konas carrying stuff out the front door with five finger discount but they will still make insane amounts of money.

edit: Btw how much are those johnsonville brats in Hawaii? They are about $5.60 for a standard pack in the Philippines.

[Hannibal]

The other day I went to a walmart in an unnamed decent sized Minnesota town. I went in to get a pair of cargo shorts.

After trying to find the mens section, I noticed that every employee there was Somalian. There was absolutely no organization to anything in the mens section and a whole bunch of shit wasn't even tagged or folded. I only found one pair of shorts that fit.

I went to the dressing room where two Somalian women were talking nonstop, no greeting or anything so I put on the shorts and stuff my jeans into a shopping bag. There was no price tag or anything on these.

The guy at the exit asked for my receipt and I said "Didn't get one" and walked out.

If they can't be bothered to hire people to keep the store's shit organized then I'm not going to fucking bother to pay for anything. Fuck them.

Additionally, I don't ever get receipts because the ink is estrogenic and it'll soak into your skin in seconds.

Either way I saved 25 bucks and paid for it with my disgust at how the store was ran.

[I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE]

The next heist movie out of Hollywood will be called "Kona's Eleven (packs of "bananas")"

[booshala]

Jesus, like a fucking cabal of thieves... If Walmart is so objectionable, why not shop at a competitor with better business practices or a place that treats their workers better in your estimation? Or at least just admit "I want free and/or heavily discounted shit that I'm OK with stealing because it's easy to do there" instead of making some grandiose claim that they deserve it?

[El Chinito loco]

(08-22-2016 01:01 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:

To be fair Enigma, the real hero of this thread is Kona.

Stealing some charcoal and yogurt from the local Walmart, then bragging about it online, doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a low-life.

I kind of understand where Kona is coming from with this. Hawaii is very much a price fixed region of the U.S.

Artificially high cost of living based on colluding business oligarchs.

Even with all that desirable beach front real estate there's no actual reason for cost of living to be what it is in Hawaii. Hawaii does not have the population growth % to justify the cost of living. It's always been artificially inflated.

Most of the major real estate owners don't live there most of the year or they are aging geriatrics with particular limited consumer tastes to begin with.

Most of the supply/demand costs are pushed onto the locals there who aren't millionaires or billionaires with winter retreats.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(08-22-2016 01:01 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:

To be fair Enigma, the real hero of this thread is Kona.

Stealing some charcoal and yogurt from the local Walmart, then bragging about it online, doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a low-life.

[The Beast1]

I'll let Enigma take the cake on his argument. Walmart has a security problem!

The real fun is shoplifting. I've never been one to shoplift. Though i have been known to get free refills from places that say you can't do it. It's always the places that nickel and dime you too. Ski resorts and amusement parks.

I did steal one time from a pharmacy. I was trying to pick up some sudafed with the good stuff in it. The self check out machine was giving crap about ID and i waited about 5 minutes before i said f*ck it and walked out. I was really sick at the time and wanted to go home.

Normally they make you check out at the pharmacy counter. I don't know why this one time they had it on the shelf.

Here's a question for the group: is it alright to jump the turnstiles on pay toilets in London or is it acceptable to piss right in front of them to make a point?

[Leonard D Neubache]

It's becoming clear we need a specific thread "Civilisation to Mad Max: Are we at cannibalism yet?"

[chicane]

(08-22-2016 05:23 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

It's becoming clear we need a specific thread "Civilisation to Mad Max: Are we at cannibalism yet?"

So, where can I find "Bleeding Heart Liberal Helper"? Or even a good marinade?

[Leonard D Neubache]

For butchering through to flavouring you need to think "pork".

Other questions will inevitably arise.

"Is it beta to load my stolen yoghurt into anything other than a supercharged V8 Interceptor?"

[redbeard]

(08-22-2016 01:25 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

Additionally, I don't ever get receipts because the ink is estrogenic and it'll soak into your skin in seconds.

Did Tim Ferris tell you this?

[AboveAverageJoe]

Another reason for so much crime is Walmart is the only place I know that allows people living in vehicles to live in their massive parking lots. Not that all homeless people are criminals, Im sure many are working-poor some even Walmart employees and their families.
As Bugle sings "Before you fight crime, you must fight poverty first."

[Hannibal]

(08-22-2016 06:30 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:25 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  

Additionally, I don't ever get receipts because the ink is estrogenic and it'll soak into your skin in seconds.

Did Tim Ferris tell you this?

It might have been Paul Carter or Jamie Lewis.

[Ghost Tiger]

(08-20-2016 01:08 PM)JacksonRev Wrote:  

(08-20-2016 01:03 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I am afraid that I don't get the point of this article.

Walmart is often the victim of shoplifters, fraudsters and other criminals. It catches many of them in the act and delivers them to the police as it is proper.

What is it supposed to do instead, shoot them on the spot?

They don't control their own clientele. Bars have bouncers for this, and will be shut down for being a public nuisance if police have to disproportionately waste resources there.

Walmart is the worst public nuisance in the US when excess police visits are counted. This, combined with much of their profit being from food stamps while they pay their employees so little that they have to be on food stamps, makes Walmart the largest private beneficiary of public assistance in the country.

Which surprisingly pisses those of us off that pay taxes and work for a living.

While I laughed uncontrollably at each of Kona's posts in this thread, JacksonRev has the right analysis here. Since Target was mentioned in comparison, I can vouch for them since I worked for them briefly here in Canada as a security consultant during their failed northward expansion. Target invests heavily on a highly professional security force. Walmart... does not.

JacksonRev's point about bars and bouncers was brilliant. Great analysis bro! Bars can be shut down for failing to hire adequate security, and this actually does happen sometimes if police resources are found to be significantly tied up attending these types of bars. The same principle should apply to Walmart. Target should be rewarded for their superior professionalism and willingness to spend money on private security by watching their competitor get shut down for lacking said professionalism, just like shitty bars get shut down for the same reason. I know I liked working for Target and I like shopping there better than I like rubbing elbows with the Walmartians. But I can't do either of those things here in Canada anymore because Target couldn't compete with Walmart's prices. But maybe Walmart would be forced to raise their prices if they hired adequate security, n'est-ce pas? Walmart is exploiting the taxpayer-funded police resources and using them as a free security force. This is not the purpose for which police forces are intended.

But Kona... you are based bro.

Aloha!

[nomadbrah]

(08-22-2016 01:01 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:

To be fair Enigma, the real hero of this thread is Kona.

Stealing some charcoal and yogurt from the local Walmart, then bragging about it online, doesn't make you a hero, it makes you a low-life.

I don't care particularly about snatching something from Wallmart. I might have done so as a dumb teen too and the other day I might have entered one piece of bakery as the wrong kind because I couldn't be bothered to find the correct.

However, I could never do as Kona here describes because I have a morality which makes me feel bad as I am about to go through with it. It's the same reason I can't cheat dumb people out of their money either even if I had many chances in my line of work. Doing so would make me feel like a piece of shit, it's just how I'm wired.

The problem is of course, such morality is a losers proposition in a world where other people don't follow the rules.

[Ghost Tiger]

(08-22-2016 09:58 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

The problem is of course, such morality is a losers proposition in a world where other people don't follow the rules.

I know exactly what you mean. The problem arises when the rules aren't enforced. If you ever played football you know what I'm talking about (real football I mean, not soccer). I played defensive end, like my hero Howie Long. If the refs aren't calling penalties on the offensive linemen for things like holding and chop-blocking, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands. One time Howie Long was caught by a hot mic near the action when he was getting chop-blocked and the refs were ignoring it. The mic caught Howie yelling at the O-lineman that had offended him as Howie quipped, "You do that again and I'll stomp your tibia in half!" Howie had a way with words. After the game, a journalist who had heard the remark interviewed Howie and asked him excitedly, "Howie! Howie! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT?!" Howie, never at a loss for words retorted, "It's the Christian in me. I always feel like I gotta warn a guy first."

Based Howie Long!

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(08-22-2016 05:13 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

I'll let Enigma take the cake on his argument. Walmart has a security problem!

The real fun is shoplifting. I've never been one to shoplift. Though i have been known to get free refills from places that say you can't do it. It's always the places that nickel and dime you too. Ski resorts and amusement parks.

I did steal one time from a pharmacy. I was trying to pick up some sudafed with the good stuff in it. The self check out machine was giving crap about ID and i waited about 5 minutes before i said f*ck it and walked out. I was really sick at the time and wanted to go home.

Normally they make you check out at the pharmacy counter. I don't know why this one time they had it on the shelf.

Here's a question for the group: is it alright to jump the turnstiles on pay toilets in London or is it acceptable to piss right in front of them to make a point?

Frankly,

I like having for-pay toilets available in public. It beats the hell out of having no public toilets at all. I don't blame stores for wanting to have no public toilets or restrict them to customers. I don't believe the government should provide toilets in every public area. Having private businesses offer toilets for a small fee makes perfect sense.

It's the same with lots of businesses. Things are expensive, but if the business couldn't make money, they wouldn't have facilities and services available and waiting for when you need them.

[vinman]

(08-20-2016 03:05 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

We had our fair share of crazies who walked in. Some more interesting than others:

1. One woman shat all over the woman's bathroom. Apparently got shit onto the light fixtures. I thankfully avoided that cleanup.

Wow. That takes some effort.