Quote: (09-13-2016 11:31 AM)freeloader Wrote:
Guys, I have some bad news for you. Kiev is dead.
I mean hey, come on. I been in Moscow since 2005, and in Ukraine since 2008. When I was in Kiev last time in 2012, it was full of 9s and 10s. Right now, I walk thru the streets, all I see is fucking 5s !!!
What exact area were you at, when you say "streets"? What time of day and week was it? Are you saying they were 5s by your standards, or by say western standards? I was there as recently as a week ago, and I did not see many 5s at all, except at a few hipster like places like "Honey", a quirky restaurant north of Maidan.
Some specific examples to the contrary:
The Obalon riverwalk is ideal for day game, it is both relaxed and protected from the main street, and target rich, and has restaurants and bars within a few steps for insta-dates, even one of those "top golf" driving ranges to go. Go during the right times, especially after work or weekends, for best chances, otherwise there are too many mothers with children. As always, everything is dirt cheap for a western tourist. It's hard to imagine someone
in good faith following Roosh's advice for self-improvement and game, running daygame in Obalon, and failing to be successful with high quality companionship.
Another gem, the underground supermarkets below Gulliver and Area City/Mandarin plaza, both have quality girls there, much more likely to be single than in the west, and are easy to open with a single phrase of что это?, and then switch into English as most speak enough to hold a basic conversation.
It is true, that I noticed fatties and freaks, but only because they were rare enough to stand out as abnormalities, as opposed to the west where the non-fat and fugly women are the stand-outs. The freaks were less than 1% of the total numbers on the street.
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So you have to put up with all this eastern europe SHIT (boring "yes" "no" "maybe" dialogues, constant bad mood, smiling is a crime, I am pretty I don't have to be smart, I never fuck on the first date, KGB interogation upfront, if you love me you have to buy me these shoes), and you don't even receive model quality in return !
I didn't see that and hope for some photos you can take of the hordes of 5's with scowls on their faces, who dare to refuse to immediately put out for a foreigner.
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And one ore thing: THEY ARE GETTING FAT !!!
I don't if it's McDonalds or what it is. My Ukrainian ex was a skinny Dolphin just like I - we all - like 'em (she got fat like her mother only after she married this russian alcoholic), because they only had bread and the tomatoes and roots from the Datcha to eat.
I didn't see more than two McDonalds my entire stay, counting the other cities as well, including Lviv. Foreign food like that is not that popular, the Ukranians like their own cuisine. I also would like know how marrying a foreign Alcoholic makes one fat, or how Tomatoes, an originally Mexican fruit, normally grown only in the late summer in mediterrean climates, is harvested in such numbers in rural Ukraine, a more northern and continental climate, presumably year-round, as to make someone fat. Fat on roots as well? Onions or parsnips? Details please, or perhaps if possible, the recipes they use for rutabagas.
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Maybe the HB are all moving to Moscow, or to the West. I know a couple. Ukraine is still dirt poor, and it's not that hard to get a visa any more, especially after Maidan.
Why would the typical Ukrainian girl move to Russia, much less Moscow? Why do you think hot girls with miminal assets (if they are single, that will be the case) would easily get work or even tourist visas for the west? Why isn't the west crawling with a million recently-arrived Olgas and Natashas in form-fitting dresses and heels? Any stats you can cite? They don't like Russia much in general and Moscow has a particularly bad reputation as big dangerous city ruled by the arch-enemy, Putin.
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I mean, it's so easy. Just post your selfies on Instagram or FB, and within a few weeks you will meet your arab / italian / german / Oligarch son sponsor who flies you out of the dirt.
THE INTERNET RUINED POOSY PARADISE, let's face it.
Forget about Ukraine.
Please provide more proof that the supply of eligible Ukrainian girls has been outstripped by the hordes of foreign dudes; if you consider the actual numbers, the sheer number of the former, and the limited number of the latter (when accounting for the need of money, courage, game, looks, to travel), I don't yet believe you. You can't download a hot girl (in 3d) from the internet; you have to go in person, and that takes guts and money. The number of internationals who actually
appear in person in Kiev, and have the minimum amount of that combination of looks/money/game required to be successful anywhere, is negligible compared to the size of the country and city.