[Excelsior]

Some of you may have heard of this incident recently. Now we have an epic response that is going viral (hat tip to the excellent Crime and Federalism).

[Nonpareil]

(08-01-2011 05:22 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Some of you may have heard of this incident recently. Now we have an epic response that is going viral (hat tip to the excellent Crime and Federalism).

1) Sharon Osbourne, who is only famous because she married someone famous, saying 'It's great!' and the women cheering...what a dumb cunt.

2) Everything wrong with America in an an analogy; his story of the crime show where the woman got off killing her husband because 'he deserved it'. Meanwhile, if a guy killed his ex-wife after she cheated on him, filed for divorce, took half his stuff and his kids, would he get the same treatment?

Modern justice has become about feelings and 'if someone deserved it', not about whether or not you did something wrong.

[Excelsior]

(08-01-2011 06:07 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

Modern justice has become about feelings and 'if someone deserved it', not about whether or not you did something wrong.

Which means that it has truly come to resemble the female mind (driven by emotion/feelings).
That is the essence of feminization-it is the death of logic and reason.

[Samseau]

feel bad for ozzy

[Vitriol]

Reminds me of why I haven't owned a television in years. This shit is starting to get ridiculous.

I guess Americunts are going to start expecting to be able to murder their husbands when they get bored and get away with it. "It must have been the man's fault, he wasn't a good husband."

The video has about 500,000 views so far, I'm hoping it gets a lot more considering there's plenty of retarded stuff on youtube that has millions of views.

[Moma]

This is putting me off America..I don't even like to turn on tv for this kind of crap..it is totally meaningless to my furthered mental development...

[MiXX]

This is where internet services like Hulu are gold. TV the way you want it, and shows you want to watch, when you want.

I don't have a TV @ home. Instead a huge movie projector hooked up to my MAC, and customize the shows I want with Hulu and Xfinity TV.


Mixx

[Gmac]

I don't watch television at all anymore. Sidereel and letmewatchthis.com are all I need for streaming TV/Movies, and I don't spend a dime.

[Basil Ransom]

I'm surprised that one woman on the show spoke up. Women don't subscribe to an absolute sense of justice or morality, just to group mores. What the herd thinks is the rule of the day.

Misandry in Music Videos
There's something about music videos that makes musicians feel comfortable disclosing how they truly feel. Especially if that means murderous disdain for men who don't behave.

There is the Lady Gaga - Beyonce video featuring the duo fatally poisoning a player. Osborne's attitude is completely in line with this (skip to 7:05, embedding doesn't work with a specific time):

The message: ignore me and disrespect me, and you deserve to die.

And then there's the Rihanna 'Man Down' video, which features Rihanna murdering a man in cold blood. Now, this man raped her. The video got a lot of criticism, especially from family groups, for depicting this revenge murder. If it was simply a woman murdering her rapist, I'd give the video a pass. But this ignores the inherent misandry in the video.

The rape was not completely random. The video features the man dancing with Rihanna at a club, followed by Rihanna's arrogant rejection of him after a few moments of grinding (skip to 3:40):

This isn't a girl emoting "I'm not ready for that yet" or "I want to get to know you more first." Her expression is one of absolute haughtiness; she got her dose of validation from the man, now she's content to leave him. He gets pissed, follows her, and rapes her. I don't condone the rape by any means, but a man would be insane to offer this woman his sympathy, given the circumstances.

If a man flashed wads of Benjamins to a poor thug, and went on to get robbed by the thug, we wouldn't feel much sympathy. The thug still committed a crime, and definitely deserves swift punishment. But we needn't shower sympathy on the victim. Justice after all is not for the victim’s sake nor the defendant’s.

Rihanna's takeaway message: It is my god-given right to toy with men to no end, and society must protect and laud this right.

If Rihanna is successful in her revenge, so be it. But given the circumstances, she hardly deserves our sympathy; the point of the video is receiving this expression of support from society at large. "Spreading awareness."

Of course, the subtlety of points like these is lost any time you start arguing with a feminist. If you disagree in the slightest, you are a violent misogynist.

I don't even watch music videos much, so there's apt to be dozens more videos like these. And these two videos are from three of the biggest women in pop music now, Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Beyonce. I'm sure I could find some similar material from say, Katy Perry and Shakira if I knew their music better.

Has anyone ever seen a music video where a guy breaks up with a girl, and then the girl sends over some toughs to totally trash his apartment? They might've beaten him up too. I saw it once, totally forgot who did it, incredibly misandric video. Was by a white female singer I believe.

[blurb]

(08-01-2011 06:19 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(08-01-2011 06:07 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

Modern justice has become about feelings and 'if someone deserved it', not about whether or not you did something wrong.

Which means that it has truly come to resemble the female mind (driven by emotion/feelings).
That is the essence of feminization-it is the death of logic and reason.

Perhaps that is why most religions are male-dominated...so justice can get done.

[Roosh]

Anti-feminism is going mainstream. Five years ago a video like this would have never gone viral.

[Gmac]

(08-01-2011 05:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Anti-feminism is going mainstream. Five years ago a video like this would have never gone viral like this.

Maybe there's a chance for us afterall

[blurb]

(08-01-2011 07:05 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(08-01-2011 05:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Anti-feminism is going mainstream. Five years ago a video like this would have never gone viral like this.

Maybe there's a chance for us afterall

Feminism and easy sex go hand in hand. I don't want the pussy well to dry up. As much as I sympathize with guys over at the Spearhead about the wrongs that women have done to men, I really don't see the point in their campaign for marriage reform--just don't get married. It's that simple.

Feminism, for all of its uselessnes and lies, gives us guys what previous men would have had to work years for.

Do you guys really want to go back to "old school" and spend years contributing to society, advancing civilization, progressing medicine, constructing engineering marvels, and other badass shit just for one pathetic pussy in marriage, or would you rather be a homeless bum banging beautiful women left and right in today's world?

As for me, the choice is simple.

[Walderschmidt]

I think the pendulum is swing towards our favor. I also think the economic downturn is helping beause think feminist policies are unsustainable. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Who's tough? Men.

[Excelsior]

(08-01-2011 07:22 PM)blurb Wrote:  

Do you guys really want to go back to "old school" and spend years contributing to society, advancing civilization, progressing medicine, constructing engineering marvels, and other badass shit just for one pathetic pussy in marriage, or would you rather be a homeless bum banging beautiful women left and right in today's world?

As for me, the choice is simple.

It isn't really a choice.

The genie will never go back into the bottle. The "old days", as we knew them, are not going to come back, at least not in quite the form we were once used to. That just isn't an option. We might get closer to it than we are now, but its true form will not grow again. Too much has changed.

That being said, modern feminism as it stands is not sustainable and will have to either change or die out eventually. Men are increasingly refusing to "man up" and marry the women who follow it, the women are unhappy, and they are not reproducing (more conservative/traditional/religious [and in many cases, non-white] elements are having far more children than feminism's largely urban core followers in Europe and the USA).

Women who follow the feminist models closely now are not going to multiply, are not snagging the men they really want (and thought they could have when they were told they'd "have it all"), and are not finding the gains they've made (ability to work like men) satisfying, while the quality men they're most attracted to are just using them as sex toys.

A poster over on The Spearhead in response to an article about Kay Hymowitz's "manning up"(why men won't marry) issue put it best, so I'll quote him:

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By "imnobody", May 23, 2011 at 07:53

“For some reason, people don’t think in terms of incentives when it comes to men as a demographic.”

Oh, they do, they do. Not the average woman. But a thinker like Kay Hymowitz knows that the problem is the lack of incentives (she states so clearly) and, therefore, the solution is creating new incentives for men to create families.

But some incentives are impossible to create (going back to a manufacturing economy). And other incentives mean that women would have to give up some of their privileges….THE HORROR! When they realize, these fembots start issuing “syntax error! syntax error!” and their face turns into the “blue screen of death” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Screen_of_Death)

For the modern thinker, drowned in feminism from childhood, telling that women have to give up something (even if it is to get something better) is UNTHINKABLE. It is like telling a fundamentalist Muslim that the solution to his problem is to burn all the Qur’ans in the world and to paint pictures of Mohammed fucking a camel.

So they tie themselves in knots trying to solve this cognitive dissonance. They know that changes are necessary but any change will be something that women have to give up. So this is why the book ends up without solutions.

This is the plight of modern woman. The traditional woman had some excellent privileges (I call them the OLD privileges: family, kids, a male breadwinner). Feminism promised them to acquire NEW privileges (exciting career, money, casual sex with hot alpha men in their twenties, divorce with alimony and child support).

Women got along because they thought they would end up enjoying all the OLD privileges plus the NEW privileges. This is what the mantra “having it all” means. The thing worked for some decades, because of the inertia of the old system, that made men want to marry, even if the incentives were not there anymore.

But now women are discovering that, by acquiring the NEW privileges, they have unknowingly lost the OLD privileges (which is the thing they love most). Suddenly, it is harder and harder to get a husband to be a work slave. Women are desperate. They can’t live without the OLD privileges but they are not willing to give up the NEW privileges.

They are desperate and the only thing they know is to shame men (“man up”). But this is only a desperate measure and this is not working.

The solution will come with time, which is the better healer. After forty or sixty years of single motherhood, miserable life for women and social decay, new generations of young women will learn that the OLD privileges is what matters and these OLD privileges will be so rare that women will be willing to do anything and give up anything to get it. This will be the end of feminism.

But we won’t see this. Nowadays, women still harbor the hope of having the OLD with the NEW. As Clausewitz says, the purpose of a war is not to win battles, not to destroy the enemy, but to destroy the enemy’s hope and the willingness of the enemy to keep on fighting. Until hope is not destroyed, feminism won’t be beaten.

Soon they will be desperate to get a male breadwinner and will be willing to give everything to get it. But we won’t see this: this is the future.

The bottomline is this: if feminism continues on the path it is going, the end game for its followers is what you currently see in black America, with the status(or general lack thereof) that black women enjoy and the similar lack of men.

None of them want that.

For now, just enjoy the ride.

[Hooligan Harry]

(08-01-2011 07:22 PM)blurb Wrote:  

(08-01-2011 07:05 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(08-01-2011 05:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Anti-feminism is going mainstream. Five years ago a video like this would have never gone viral like this.

Maybe there's a chance for us afterall

Feminism and easy sex go hand in hand. I don't want the pussy well to dry up. As much as I sympathize with guys over at the Spearhead about the wrongs that women have done to men, I really don't see the point in their campaign for marriage reform--just don't get married. It's that simple.

Feminism, for all of its uselessnes and lies, gives us guys what previous men would have had to work years for.

Do you guys really want to go back to "old school" and spend years contributing to society, advancing civilization, progressing medicine, constructing engineering marvels, and other badass shit just for one pathetic pussy in marriage, or would you rather be a homeless bum banging beautiful women left and right in today's world?

As for me, the choice is simple.

Easy sex at the expense of society as a whole?

No thanks.

I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones. I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation. I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all. I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process. I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers.

When you start losing count of how many women you have fucked and you have reached the point where you hate fuck almost everything you meet out of jaded principle, you begin to realise that while the chase and sex may be fun it is ultimately pointless after a while. Your appetite is eventually sated.

Ill be marrying in my 40's once I have made the sort of money I think I need to maintain the sort of lifestyle I want to live. Ill fuck off to EE, marry some young local girl who clocks no more than 7 on the scale and keep her pregnant for 4 or 5 years on the trot.

I wont be chasing poon either when that happens. Ill bang hookers to give me the variety I need.

There is more to life than pussy and I respect a man for building a bridge or having made a positive difference in other peoples lives more than I do some hedonist who clocked up a few extra notches along the way

[Moma]

(08-02-2011 03:23 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Easy sex at the expense of society as a whole?

No thanks.

I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones. I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation. I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all. I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process. I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers.

When you start losing count of how many women you have fucked and you have reached the point where you hate fuck almost everything you meet out of jaded principle, you begin to realise that while the chase and sex may be fun it is ultimately pointless after a while. Your appetite is eventually sated.

Ill be marrying in my 40's once I have made the sort of money I think I need to maintain the sort of lifestyle I want to live. Ill fuck off to EE, marry some young local girl who clocks no more than 7 on the scale and keep her pregnant for 4 or 5 years on the trot.

I wont be chasing poon either when that happens. Ill bang hookers to give me the variety I need.

There is more to life than pussy and I respect a man for building a bridge or having made a positive difference in other peoples lives more than I do some hedonist who clocked up a few extra notches along the way

+1

Great statement there, bruv.

Bigup Roosh for collecting these great minds. You guys are not only great players but good people as well (for the most part).

One

[Samseau]

(08-02-2011 03:23 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

When you start losing count of how many women you have fucked and you have reached the point where you hate fuck almost everything you meet out of jaded principle, you begin to realise that while the chase and sex may be fun it is ultimately pointless after a while. Your appetite is eventually sated.

And the odds of this happening are...

[Roosh]

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I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones. I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation. I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all. I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process. I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers.

How about this instead: make sure YOUR children come home to a stable home. Make sure YOU live in a place where the cost of living is low. Make sure YOU don't have a cunt wife that destroys your family. Make sure YOU have purpose and direction. You won't influence how the world is going, so don't try. For every guy reading right now, nothing will improve in our lifetimes. If anything, it will only get worse. Find your own peace of mind and enjoy it instead.

[oldnemesis]

(08-02-2011 03:23 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones. I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation. I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all. I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process. I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers.

I might rather too, but I'm sure I won't even move my finger to get there. This is the battle simply not worth fighting.

Traditional marriage is being ruined not by feminists, it is being ruined by the "me, Me, ME!" mentality which is so prevalent in Western culture and now spreading around the world. I've got a friend who is relationship counselor, and she mentioned that the main problem in counseling is that both parties blame each others in any problem, and believe the it is the other party who should change. People nowadays expect relationships to work by itself, without putting any effort. This does not work. Maintaining a relationship requires constant effort from both parties, and the greater is the incompatibility between two of you, the more is the effort required.

And then we have the entitlement problem caused by unrealistic expectations - a lot of guys would like to get into relationship with a good-looking social chick who is good in bed, but they at the same time expect her to be a virgin. Well, this just won't happen. I've been with more virgins in my life that I'd like to (somehow I tend to attract them, and this is annoying), and while some of them were good-looking, not a single one of them was social enough to be met in a bar or club, and all of them were pretty unreachable if not within the social circle.

So just take care of yourself, and let others screw up themselves over their unrealistic expectations. Take care of your kids, choose your wife wisely, and you won't fall into those traps.

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When you start losing count of how many women you have fucked and you have reached the point where you hate fuck almost everything you meet out of jaded principle, you begin to realise that while the chase and sex may be fun it is ultimately pointless after a while. Your appetite is eventually sated.

Indeed, there is a problem if your whole life is built around fucking as much women as possible. At some age you might actually think whether it was really worth it? As I use to say, fucking a bunch of chicks is a source of pride when you're 25, but when you're 50 most people tend to have other, more advanced sources of pride.

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Ill be marrying in my 40's once I have made the sort of money I think I need to maintain the sort of lifestyle I want to live. Ill fuck off to EE, marry some young local girl who clocks no more than 7 on the scale and keep her pregnant for 4 or 5 years on the trot.

This is fine as long as you understand (and accept) that she's with you just for your money. You can game a chick into the relationship, but you won't be able to game her during the whole relationship. Nor you will want to. Those marriages are quite fragile, but as long as you have the money she needs, you'll do fine.

[blurb]

(08-02-2011 03:23 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones.

Tell women to stop sleeping with thugs and having their children.

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I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation.

Start telling women that. Let's see how it goes.

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I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all.

Tell women to stop being cunts and spend your own time and resources trying to change the legal system.

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I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process.

Men value freedom over security; women value security over freedom. Let's start telling men to carve out their own destinies and stop telling them to get a degree and then find a steady, stable job. It was the pioneers in history that made great strides in innovation. Christopher Columbus, Napoleon Bonaparte, Louis Pasteur, the Wright Brothers. All of these men and others basically risked something big (their lives, their position as professor, their money, etc.) in order to make gains. The greater the risk, the greater the reward.

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I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers

Tell men to stop being pussies. Teach them game. Tell them to be assholes and badboys.

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When you start losing count of how many women you have fucked and you have reached the point where you hate fuck almost everything you meet out of jaded principle, you begin to realise that while the chase and sex may be fun it is ultimately pointless after a while. Your appetite is eventually sated.

At what age do men stop wanting to have sex?

[Hooligan Harry]

(08-02-2011 09:48 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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I would rather see children coming from stable homes instead of thugs coming from broken ones. I would rather see the cost of living drop as more women stay at home and have families reducing inflation. I would rather not see men not losing their kids and homes to their cunt wives just because she got bored with it all. I would rather see men given purpose and direction again, producing more in the process. I would rather not see our entire culture eroded to the point where men become so fucking weak and pussified we are eventually over run by emerging powers.

How about this instead: make sure YOUR children come home to a stable home. Make sure YOU live in a place where the cost of living is low. Make sure YOU don't have a cunt wife that destroys your family. Make sure YOU have purpose and direction. You won't influence how the world is going, so don't try. For every guy reading right now, nothing will improve in our lifetimes. If anything, it will only get worse. Find your own peace of mind and enjoy it instead.

Nah Roosh, I agree with you 100%. After spending as much time as I did abroad and as much as I love Australia, I am under no illusions. Our generation, and probably the next, are not going to have things the way our grandfathers did. I think its going to get much worse before it gets better actually. As an individual, there is little you can do to change that and your best bet is finding a place that does offer what you are looking for

However, as an individual, you dont have to embrace the system either. Or applaud it because it suits you as an individual currently, even though you know its bad. Thats the point I guess I am trying to make. There is nothing positive about feminism and the easier sex has come at a massive price.