[Rocket75]

The community is in an uproar over this.

Some snippets from the article :

"Teachers at the prestigious northwest Sydney school, Cheltenham Girls High School, have been asked to stop referring to students as “girls”, “ladies” and “women”, and use only gender-neutral language, The Daily Telegraph today reported."

"It was suggested to teachers that by using such language they could be seen to be breaking the law and could be at risk of being sued by LGBTI students."

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenti...a80ec0af6e

My 2c:

[rawbeefcake]

When the left go too far...

Quote from the article “I am all for diversity and making sure that our younger generation understand exactly what is gong on within the community, but to implement something like this, it’s just ridiculous.”

The everyday person is not happy about this shit. It hits too close to home

[kaotic]

(07-19-2016 05:34 PM)rawbeefcake Wrote:  

When the left go too far...

Quote from the article “I am all for diversity and making sure that our younger generation understand exactly what is gong on within the community, but to implement something like this, it’s just ridiculous.”

The everyday person is not happy about this shit. It hits too close to home

The only way the left will let you understand what's going on in their community is by enforcing their views and policies on you dumb ass.

You can't have both, they won't let you.

[budoslavic]

[Suits]

So, what terms can they use?

Pals?
Buddies?
Students?
'Gina Carriers?

[StrikeBack]

This is all part of our brand new Safe Schools policy, co-written by a pedophile, to groom our children for a brighter future...

Now teachers can't call girls at a girls school 'girls', 'ladies' and 'women' because this "may" offend some persons. I suppose one way to solve this would be to call the offended parties "bitches".

The bold quoted part: this sounds eerily like something coming straight from a communist regime.

Countdown until our 20-something year old bearded soul mates attend this all-girls school...

[scotian]

These idiots are going to be in for a big surprise when they learn French or any other Latin based language that uses grammatical gender.

[Moto]

(07-19-2016 10:10 PM)scotian Wrote:  

These idiots are going to be in for a big surprise when they learn French or any other Latin based language that uses grammatical gender.

Except that very few ever will. They only want to talk about things like cultural enrichment.

[philosophical_recovery]

I am sorry for your loss, Aussies.

Relevant due to the group-think culture of western compulsory government education: http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html

John Taylor Gatto Wrote:

Call me Mr. Gatto, please. Twenty-six years ago, having nothing better to do, I tried my hand at schoolteaching. My license certifies me as an instructor of English language and literature, but that isn't what I do at all. What I teach is school, and I win awards doing it.

Teaching means many different things, but six lessons are common to schoolteaching from Harlem to Hollywood. You pay for these lessons in more ways than you can imagine, so you might as well know what they are:

The first lesson I teach is: "Stay in the class where you belong." I don't know who decides that my kids belong there but that's not my business. The children are numbered so that if any get away they can be returned to the right class. Over the years the variety of ways children are numbered has increased dramatically, until it is hard to see the human being under the burden of the numbers each carries. Numbering children is a big and very profitable business, though what the business is designed to accomplish is elusive.

In any case, again, that's not my business. My job is to make the kids like it -- being locked in together, I mean -- or at the minimum, endure it. If things go well, the kids can't imagine themselves anywhere else; they envy and fear the better classes and have contempt for the dumber classes. So the class mostly keeps itself in good marching order. That's the real lesson of any rigged competition like school. You come to know your place.

Nevertheless, in spite of the overall blueprint, I make an effort to urge children to higher levels of test success, promising eventual transfer from the lower-level class as a reward. I insinuate that the day will come when an employer will hire them on the basis of test scores, even though my own experience is that employers are (rightly) indifferent to such things. I never lie outright, but I've come to see that truth and [school]teaching are incompatible.

The lesson of numbered classes is that there is no way out of your class except by magic. Until that happens you must stay where you are put.

The second lesson I teach kids is to turn on and off like a light switch. I demand that they become totally involved in my lessons, jumping up and down in their seats with anticipation, competing vigorously with each other for my favor. But when the bell rings I insist that they drop the work at once and proceed quickly to the next work station. Nothing important is ever finished in my class, nor in any other class I know of.

The lesson of bells is that no work is worth finishing, so why care too deeply about anything? Bells are the secret logic of schooltime; their argument is inexorable; bells destroy past and future, converting every interval into a sameness, as an abstract map makes every living mountain and river the same even though they are not. Bells inoculate each undertaking with indifference.

The third lesson I teach you is to surrender your will to a predestined chain of command. Rights may be granted or withheld, by authority, without appeal. As a schoolteacher I intervene in many personal decisions, issuing a Pass for those I deem legitimate, or initiating a disciplinary confrontation for behavior that threatens my control. My judgments come thick and fast, because individuality is trying constantly to assert itself in my classroom. Individuality is a curse to all systems of classification, a contradiction of class theory.

Here are some common ways it shows up: children sneak away for a private moment in the toilet on the pretext of moving their bowels; they trick me out of a private instant in the hallway on the grounds that they need water. Sometimes free will appears right in front of me in children angry, depressed or exhilarated by things outside my ken. Rights in such things cannot exist for schoolteachers; only privileges, which can be withdrawn, exist.

The fourth lesson I teach is that only I determine what curriculum you will study. (Rather, I enforce decisions transmitted by the people who pay me). This power lets me separate good kids from bad kids instantly. Good kids do the tasks I appoint with a minimum of conflict and a decent show of enthusiasm. Of the millions of things of value to learn, I decide what few we have time for. The choices are mine. Curiosity has no important place in my work, only conformity.

Bad kids fight against this, of course, trying openly or covertly to make decisions for themselves about what they will learn. How can we allow that and survive as schoolteachers? Fortunately there are procedures to break the will of those who resist.

This is another way I teach the lesson of dependency. Good people wait for a teacher to tell them what to do. This is the most important lesson of all, that we must wait for other people, better trained than ourselves, to make the meanings of our lives. It is no exaggeration to say that our entire economy depends upon this lesson being learned. Think of what would fall apart if kids weren't trained in the dependency lesson: The social-service businesses could hardly survive, including the fast-growing counseling industry; commercial entertainment of all sorts, along with television, would wither if people remembered how to make their own fun; the food services, restaurants and prepared-food warehouses would shrink if people returned to making their own meals rather than depending on strangers to cook for them. Much of modern law, medicine, and engineering would go too -- the clothing business as well -- unless a guaranteed supply of helpless people poured out of our schools each year. We've built a way of life that depends on people doing what they are told because they don't know any other way. For God's sake, let's not rock that boat!

In lesson five I teach that your self-respect should depend on an observer's measure of your worth. My kids are constantly evaluated and judged. A monthly report, impressive in its precision, is sent into students' homes to spread approval or to mark exactly -- down to a single percentage point -- how dissatisfied with their children parents should be. Although some people might be surprised how little time or reflection goes into making up these records, the cumulative weight of the objective- seeming documents establishes a profile of defect which compels a child to arrive at a certain decisions about himself and his future based on the casual judgment of strangers.

Self-evaluation -- the staple of every major philosophical system that ever appeared on the planet -- is never a factor in these things. The lesson of report cards, grades, and tests is that children should not trust themselves or their parents, but must rely on the evaluation of certified officials. People need to be told what they are worth.

In lesson six I teach children that they are being watched. I keep each student under constant surveillance and so do my colleagues. There are no private spaces for children; there is no private time. Class change lasts 300 seconds to keep promiscuous fraternization at low levels. Students are encouraged to tattle on each other, even to tattle on their parents. Of course I encourage parents to file their own child's waywardness, too.

I assign "homework" so that this surveillance extends into the household, where students might otherwise use the time to learn something unauthorized, perhaps from a father or mother, or by apprenticing to some wiser person in the neighborhood.

The lesson of constant surveillance is that no one can be trusted, that privacy is not legitimate. Surveillance is an ancient urgency among certain influential thinkers; it was a central prescription set down by Calvin in the Institutes, by Plato in the Republic, by Hobbes, by Comte, by Francis Bacon. All these childless men discovered the same thing: Children must be closely watched if you want to keep a society under central control.

It is the great triumph of schooling that among even the best of my fellow teachers, and among even the best parents, there is only a small number who can imagine a different way to do things. Yet only a very few lifetimes ago things were different in the United States: originality and variety were common currency; our freedom from regimentation made us the miracle of the world; social class boundaries were relatively easy to cross; our citizenry was marvelously confident, inventive, and able to do many things independently, to think for themselves. We were something, all by ourselves, as individuals.

It only takes about 50 contact hours to transmit basic literacy and math skills well enough that kids can be self-teachers from then on. The cry for "basic skills" practice is a smokescreen behind which schools pre-empt the time of children for twelve years and teach them the six lessons I've just taught you.

We've had a society increasingly under central control in the United States since just before the Civil War: the lives we lead, the clothes we wear, the food we eat, and the green highway signs we drive by from coast to coast are the products of this central control. So, too, I think, are the epidemics of drugs, suicide, divorce, violence, cruelty, and the hardening of class into caste in the U.S., products of the dehumanization of our lives, the lessening of individual and family importance that central control imposes.

Without a fully active role in community life you cannot develop into a complete human being. Aristotle taught that. Surely he was right; look around you or look in the mirror: that is the demonstration.

John Taylor Gatto Wrote:

With lessons like the ones I teach day after day, is it any wonder we have the national crisis we face today? Young people indifferent to the adult world and to the future; indifferent to almost everything except the diversion of toys and violence? Rich or poor, schoolchildren cannot concentrate on anything for very long. They have a poor sense of time past and to come; they are mistrustful of intimacy (like the children of divorce they really are); they hate solitude, are cruel, materialistic, dependent, passive, violent, timid in the face of the unexpected, addicted to distraction.

All the peripheral tendencies of childhood are magnified to a grotesque extent by schooling, whose hidden curriculum prevents effective personality development. Indeed, without exploiting the fearfulness, selfishness, and inexperience of children our schools could not survive at all, nor could I as a certified schoolteacher.

"Critical thinking" is a term we hear frequently these days as a form of training which will herald a new day in mass schooling. It certainly will, if it ever happens. No common school that actually dared teach the use of dialectic, heuristic, and other tools of free minds could last a year without being torn to pieces.

Institutional schoolteachers are destructive to children's development. Nobody survives the Six-Lesson Curriculum unscathed, not even the instructors. The method is deeply and profoundly anti-educational. No tinkering will fix it. In one of the great ironies of human affairs, the massive rethinking that schools require would cost so much less than we are spending now that it is not likely to happen. First and foremost, the business I am in is a jobs project and a contract-letting agency. We cannot afford to save money, not even to help children.

At the pass we've come to historically, and after 26 years of teaching, I must conclude that one of the only alternatives on the horizon for most families is to teach their own children at home. Small, de- institutionalized schools are another. Some form of free-market system for public schooling is the likeliest place to look for answers. But the near impossibility of these things for the shattered families of the poor, and for too many on the fringes of the economic middle class, foretell that the disaster of Six-Lesson Schools is likely to continue.

After an adult lifetime spent in teaching school I believe the method of schooling is the only real content it has. Don't be fooled into thinking that good curricula or good equipment or good teachers are the critical determinants of your son and daughter's schooltime. All the pathologies we've considered come about in large measure because the lessons of school prevent children from keeping important appointments with themselves and their families, to learn lessons in self-motivation, perseverance, self-reliance, courage, dignity and love -- and, of course, lessons in service to others, which are among the key lessons of home life.

Thirty years ago these things could still be learned in the time left after school. But television has eaten most of that time, and a combination of television and the stresses peculiar to two-income or single-parent families have swallowed up most of what used to be family time. Our kids have no time left to grow up fully human, and only thin-soil wastelands to do it in.

A future is rushing down upon our culture which will insist that all of us learn the wisdom of non-material experience; this future will demand, as the price of survival, that we follow a pace of natural life economical in material cost. These lessons cannot be learned in schools as they are. School is like starting life with a 12-year jail sentence in which bad habits are the only curriculum truly learned. I teach school and win awards doing it. I should know.

[Conscious Pirate]

^ I'd rep you again if I could. Great fucking post brother.

[Rocket75]

More Australian School bullshit to come out of my country today! Two amazingly ridiculous things, in one day. Our kids have no hope!!!

"CLAPPING has been banned at a Sydney primary school which has introduced “silent cheering”, “pulling excited faces” and “punching the air” to respect students who are “sensitive to noise”. "


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenti...1537b18ad6

[StrikeBack]

philosophical_recovery: I've been looking very seriously into home schooling here for my future children. There is no way I will send my kids into the indoctrination camps run by those subversive feminist teachers, to learn sex-ed written by pedophiles and to be harassed by those filthy soul mates.

[Kalkin]

When my oldest son was a boy, my wife, under pressure from her friends (despite my own misgivings), sent him to a trendy public school.

The principal used to send home frequent reminders not to use "exclusionary" terms (implying biological relatedness) like

mother, father, daughter, son

and especially not to prefix them with "my".

You were supposed to say "Susan is the caregiver of Billy". All other options deemed "offensive".

She also had a big poster up on the wall, near the entrance of the school, depicting 6 fatherless living arrangements: single mother with kids, multiple women with kids, grandmother raising kids, etc. The caption said "Families come in all shapes and sizes".

This was years ago. And I doubt it was the principal's idea; she didn't have a particularly creative personality.

I would guess that the genderless and creatively-gendered pronouns are coming soon; that's already hit a lot of the college campuses and will undoubtedly filter down to the elementary schools soon. I would also guess that they will be enforced, as some colleges have already toyed with doing, under threat of disciplinary action for not using the mandated pronoun.

I doubt the threat of lawsuits is the primary motivator. I think that the ratio of teachers and administrators who are themselves LGBTQ&c is significantly higher than that of the general population. This has long been the case, hence the 19th century stereotype of the spinster school-marm.

[KeeperNine]

(07-20-2016 01:10 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

philosophical_recovery: I've been looking very seriously into home schooling here for my future children. There is no way I will send my kids into the indoctrination camps run by those subversive feminist teachers, to learn sex-ed written by pedophiles and to be harassed by those filthy soul mates.

I'm going home-school 100%, no doubt about it.

Quote:

99% of primary school teachers are retarded sluts with no marketable skills and no talent, so they go to university because they "love kids" and want to teach.

They're too fucking stupid to learn anything more complicated than basic maths or "hurr in some year Captain Cook came and slaughtered some of the glorious monkey master race and you should feel guilty". So they just fuck and suck their way through 4 years to get a piece of paper that says they're qualified to teach 8 year olds that 2+2=4.

If you see a female teacher who teaches any grade lower than 9th, and she's under 35, there is a 99.999% chance she is a stupid whore who is dumber than a box of rocks. She will have no problem filling your child's head with nonsense and wasting 20% of class time talking about her day and complaining about how her new boyfriend dumped her so all her students can bloat her ego by telling her she's pretty and the bestest person in the whole wide world and make her feel better about the fact that she doesn't have any children of her own because she wasted the best years of her life being a worthless cumdumpster passed around from guy to guy instead of staying faithful and fulfilling her feminine role.

They infect our schools and corrupt our children.

[Tex Cruise]

(07-20-2016 03:09 AM)KeeperNine Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 01:10 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

philosophical_recovery: I've been looking very seriously into home schooling here for my future children. There is no way I will send my kids into the indoctrination camps run by those subversive feminist teachers, to learn sex-ed written by pedophiles and to be harassed by those filthy soul mates.

I'm going home-school 100%, no doubt about it.

I am about to start homeschooling my son within the next few days. I'm hoping that later in the year when I've got a bit of an idea of what it's like I can put together a datasheet or at least a post of value for this forum.

[StrikeBack]

Fantastic mate, looking forward to it!

[StrikeBack]

(07-20-2016 01:00 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  

More Australian School bullshit to come out of my country today! Two amazingly ridiculous things, in one day. Our kids have no hope!!!

"CLAPPING has been banned at a Sydney primary school which has introduced “silent cheering”, “pulling excited faces” and “punching the air” to respect students who are “sensitive to noise”. "


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenti...1537b18ad6

Our schools are going full retard.

Instead of teaching children smarts and strength, we're telling them to embrace stupidity and weakness.

[polar]

"THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."

Harrison Bergeron

[Thoroughbred]

(07-20-2016 10:05 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Our schools are going full retard.

Instead of teaching children smarts and strength, we're telling them to embrace stupidity and weakness.

[budoslavic]

(07-20-2016 03:09 AM)KeeperNine Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 01:10 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

philosophical_recovery: I've been looking very seriously into home schooling here for my future children. There is no way I will send my kids into the indoctrination camps run by those subversive feminist teachers, to learn sex-ed written by pedophiles and to be harassed by those filthy soul mates.

I'm going home-school 100%, no doubt about it.
...

Vox Day sometime writes about home school on his website. You may want to check it out especially what subjects to teach children when homeschooling.