[MrRoundtree]

Montreal is good but you need to stay a long time here and embrace the culture and be open-minded to the differences. It is also very hipsterish and a bit snobby in a way compared to Quebec city.

The best girls to game are the UQAM and Université de montréal french canadan girls from nursing programs or programs like psycho, pharmacy. College is awesome here and I would recommend doing an exchange here to anyone. After college game is a bit different, because it becomes harder to find a lot of good places to go out for the 25-33 years old range (lot of lounges and pubs/bars but not a lot of good clubs where people party hard and have fun in my opinion compared to cities like Paris and NYC where the young professionals flock,

People are a bit ''coincé'' in Montreal compared to Quebec city. But money is non-important here. Style, game, looks, and handsomeness and status in a way are more important. Culture is not as important as in France (French canadians chicks are way below their european counterparts and russians in this department)

Girls are not comparable to Eastern Europe. The hottest québécoises chicks will always look very feminine and hot but won't ACT as feminine. Girls don't like cheeky flirting here, you need to flirt in a cool and sarcastic way (that applies to Québécoises and anglo chicks).

One last thing, I already said the anglos who will have the most luck here are those that look and sound foreign. Australians, Irish and British will kill in Quebec with the French Canadian chicks. Californians will do well. Girls really like humour here and it is hard to compete with Quebecois guys that are actually funny because our language is full of tongue-twisters and expressions that no-one in the world can understand or translate. Plus add the fact that we are probably in my experience the happiest and ''most ricaneurs'' people in the world, I can guaranteed that it can be quite difficult with Québécoises chicks that are well educated and constantly gamed by funny and street-smart local guys.
Toronto guys, I can only say...good luck XD because they have quite a bad reputation here for being ''ultra-coincés'' and unfunny.

[Rang off the Pipe]

Every few weeks there always seems to be a new topic about Montréal. It's probably one of the most disputed cities in this segment of the forum.

[Curunír]

High reputation , high expectations and then big place for disappointment specially in today's state of nightgame.

[Pokerbaby]

(07-09-2016 06:19 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  

Single white french canadian girls are begging to be approached by fit good-looking guys (black, asian, white or whatever) who are confident, intelligent and charming. If you are bold, direct and persistent, I guarantee that you'll get results.

Isn't this true for anywhere in the world?

I think a city should be judged for what an average looking dude with average game could do.

Good luck if you are in Montreal with average or below average looks and don't speak french or you're over 35 and want to get with young french canadian girls.

[Tankinou]

Montreal isn't overrated but there is things you need to understand, There is a lot of hot girls and slim yes, the city with the french background is by far the less conservative of Canada ( hell maybe north america), during summer its extremely busy and lot of delicious tourists, but its a bit like Australia, there is a lot of hot guys too. After having lived there for so many years I found like the ratio deteriorated over the years ( rise of hipster, tatoos an crap too). Currently for like around 40 hot girls you have around 60 hot guys so its difficult yeah but you can manage. Also Quebec is a bit special, networking and social network is very very important, so its better you work on that.

To finish, if you want white hot girls DTF, don't stay too much downtown Montreal, go to the suburbs like Rive Sud, Laval, Terrebone and other cities like Quebec City and Saguenay, you will be surprised.

Many others details but I'm a bit lazy right now.

[casa-nostra]

Thank you for those informations,so to summarize MTL is a difficult city,specially without sociale circle.But I have found that girls coming from others places than MTL are easier than Quebec girls.

For Quebec girls,the only city i know is Gatineau and it is difficult too,just passing the bridge to Ottawa girls are easier.I have no idea about Quebec city though or the MTL subrubs.
In my experience, you will never get result if you cold approch Quebecois,you should just wait they approch you if you are luckey which is not easy with the competition.

[Robert Plant]

^^^ You can cold approach but you really need to make it seem like you just happened to meet each other. If you go direct (daygame or nightgame) in Montreal you will get a lot of blowouts. Other places in Quebec are indeed better than Montreal for ease but in my experience, the women are hotter in Montreal. Montreal is an awesome place to be but not easy.

[Dirty Dan]

One thing that no one mentions about Montreal is that there is a high level of stratification in this city based on looks. Something that I never experienced in Europe or with South American girls. I don't have much experience in the United States.

If you are good looking then the the quality of pussy that you will get in Montreal will be beyond your wildest dreams.

If you are average looking then poon will be of the same quality. Unless you have stellar game or are as rich as fuck.

But you will struggle even with those two attributes if you are below average looking.

If you are ugly with no game or money, then stay the fuck out of Montreal! This isn't a pussy paradise like some of the countries in Eastern Europe.

The level of bias towards good looking people in Montreal is so high that it's almost a different world. You will be hated upon for being good looking, guys will be aggressive and will shoulder shove you while you are in a nightclub or walking down the street. Average looking bitches will be highly disrespectful even when you are just minding your own business.

This was very strange for me in the beginning, especially when I got attention for high quality girls that could be Sports Illustrated models. But then you finally start to understand the dynamics after a few months. Also, you realize that there is no point in spending time on average girls because they have a serious inferiority complex.

Also, the smiley friendly vibe that everyone talks about is a facade. Here in Montreal if a girl likes she will use body language to show it which could entail bumping into you, blocking your way, etc. She will not make eye contact and smile. If she does that then she is interested in being friends with you or just having a conversation. Again, something very different from the way the Latinas behave.

[Robert Plant]

Dirty Dan, you just might have cracked the code (no sarcasm), something I never was able to do in the Marijuana haze of my Montreal days.

[Rekk'd]

I'm sorry Dirty Dan but that is not true or atleast now. Montreal is all about social circles nothing more that's if we are talking about the Quebecoise girls not the tourists or outside province girls.

Here in Montreal you will see some of the ugliest guys with very beautiful girls. You would see ugly ass short latinos that look like hobos with gorgeous quebec girls because they are "exotic". Thug life wannabe black guys walking with HB8s and 9s, I'm not racist but I don't see how these guys can be considered good looking when the only thing they got is the famous hip hop culture. Alot of hipster skinny white guys with huge beards fucking cute hipster girls. Even the arabs screwin the quebec girls are the bad looking ones with weird hair cuts and the good ones go for lebanese girls.

It's all social circles here.

[casa-nostra]

Dirty Dan that is very true,and there is a lot of good looking guys in MTL.I remember that ONS girl from Toronto telling me that guys in MTL are better looking than TO.

Guys here hate Toronto,but Toronto is still more fun than Montreal for girls,the same girl will be easier in Toronto or Ottawa than Montreal because the quality of competition is lower IMO.But the city in itslef Montreal is very fun,a lot things to do and food here is very cheap.
Also a lot of fake eye contact in MTL.
and i confirm that even ugly girls acting like bitches here.

For Quebecois,sociale circle is king otherwise you will work hard and think about spontaneous methods to approches them and that is not easy.

[Robert Plant]

I've spent a lot of time in Montreal and its sounds contradictory but Dirty Dan and Rekk'd are both right. It just depends on the particular girl and the context you meet her in. Social circle is important to girls everywhere. Its in their DNA. This is even more true in Montreal, there is a huge amount of social pressure there.

But in the context of cold approaches, I think Dirty Dan has figured out how a lot of Montreal girls work. Most of the stuff Dan talks about is also the result of intense social pressure

Even though the place is awesome and the girls are hot, I haven't been to Montreal in 3 years. Gaming is just way to complicated there. I'd much rather hang in S. America, SE Asia or even W. Europe.

[casa-nostra]

Robert which city in Canada is the easiest to game without a sociale circle?

Girls are hot everywhere in Canada by the way.

[Robert Plant]

"Robert which city in Canada is the easiest to game without a sociale circle?

Girls are hot everywhere in Canada by the way."

I don't know because I only have spent time significant time in Montreal and Chicoutimi. In Chicoutimi though there is a novelty factor if you are American.

I agree that Canada generally has prettier girls than the US especially if you like tall.

[scotian]

Interesting post Dirty Dan, how is your French?

[Dirty Dan]

(07-26-2016 11:24 PM)Rekkd Wrote:  

I'm sorry Dirty Dan but that is not true or atleast now. Montreal is all about social circles nothing more that's if we are talking about the Quebecoise girls not the tourists or outside province girls.

Here in Montreal you will see some of the ugliest guys with very beautiful girls. You would see ugly ass short latinos that look like hobos with gorgeous quebec girls because they are "exotic". Thug life wannabe black guys walking with HB8s and 9s, I'm not racist but I don't see how these guys can be considered good looking when the only thing they got is the famous hip hop culture. Alot of hipster skinny white guys with huge beards fucking cute hipster girls. Even the arabs screwin the quebec girls are the bad looking ones with weird hair cuts and the good ones go for lebanese girls.

It's all social circles here.

I know a few guys with solid social circles here. These circles have hindered rather than helped him. However, these are anglo circles. It might work different in the franco circles.

So you could be right. I need to investigate further.

And as for the white girls with thug wannabes. I have seen them too, they are not that hot.

I don't know if you are from Montreal or have spent enough time in the city. If not, then your rating rating scale will have to be calibrated here. What's considered an 9 by an outsider is really a 7 according to a local. You kind of get immune to hotness in this city.

[Dirty Dan]

(07-27-2016 02:11 AM)scotian Wrote:  

Interesting post Dirty Dan, how is your French?

Not that good. I can understand a lot but I suck at speaking.

Why do you ask?

[scotian]

^Your experience probably would have been different it you did. I find it a bit odd that a guy would expect the women in any city in North America to be like Eastern Europe or Quebecoises girls to be like Latinas.

[Dirty Dan]

(07-27-2016 06:51 PM)scotian Wrote:  

^Your experience probably would have been different it you did. I find it a bit odd that a guy would expect the women in any city in North America to be like Eastern Europe or Quebecoises girls to be like Latinas.

I get what you are saying. I wasn't expecting them to be the same. But I wasn't expecting the average girls in Quebec to be so fucked up. Don't get me wrong. I love the girls in Montreal. But the dynamics here are very different from what I have seen in almost every other country in the world including France.

I have been putting a lot of effort into learning French over the past few weeks and I will be proficient in it soon enough. But MOST of the French girls that I met were open to speaking English.

Yes, there were some who didn't speak a word of English but the number of those isn't substantial, especially in Montreal. I don't have any experience with cities outside of Montreal.

[casa-nostra]

I found 90% of Quebers speak english,language is not the problem.If they dont speak english that mean they dont want to make an effort because they dont like the guy.
If you dont speak englsih that would be a problem,many People speal only english here.

[Kaizen]

(07-27-2016 09:30 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

I found 90% of Quebers speak english,language is not the problem.If they dont speak english that mean they dont want to make an effort because they dont like the guy.
If you dont speak englsih that would be a problem,many People speal only english here.

Have to disagree with that.

Good luck with English outside of Montreal.

[rishboy77]

(07-28-2016 11:01 AM)Kaizen Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 09:30 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

I found 90% of Quebers speak english,language is not the problem.If they dont speak english that mean they dont want to make an effort because they dont like the guy.
If you dont speak englsih that would be a problem,many People speal only english here.

Have to disagree with that.

Good luck with English outside of Montreal.

Pretty much. I was in Quebec City recently and it's world of difference compared to Montreal.

I mean you can get by with only English you will be stuck gaming tourists from US border states.

[casa-nostra]

(07-28-2016 11:01 AM)Kaizen Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 09:30 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

I found 90% of Quebers speak english,language is not the problem.If they dont speak english that mean they dont want to make an effort because they dont like the guy.
If you dont speak englsih that would be a problem,many People speal only english here.

Have to disagree with that.

Good luck with English outside of Montreal.

I mean Quebecers from Montréal,it is a Montréal Topic.

[jj90]

Grass is always greener on the other side.

We bitch about Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver when we each live in those cities. Yet to those not in those cities the other cities are a fucking goldmine.

[Dirty Dan]

(07-28-2016 11:58 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(07-28-2016 11:01 AM)Kaizen Wrote:  

(07-27-2016 09:30 PM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

I found 90% of Quebers speak english,language is not the problem.If they dont speak english that mean they dont want to make an effort because they dont like the guy.
If you dont speak englsih that would be a problem,many People speal only english here.

Have to disagree with that.

Good luck with English outside of Montreal.

I mean Quebecers from Montréal,it is a Montréal Topic.

Also,you will be pardoned if you are not an anglo Canadian when it comes to speaking French with Quebecois girls in Montreal.

But again, she will speak with you only if you meet her 'standards' according the 'looks system' here.