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On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
#51

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-20-2016 09:51 PM)brob Wrote:  

Would highly recommend. With the recent update, it's easy to switch between your personal Instagram and your "famous" instagram where you have tons of followers and post whatever pictures you want since your friends won't see that account.

An update to Instagram allowing to switch between accounts? That could be useful. But there is still the off chance of a friend or acquaintance discovering pics of your "secret" account, the one with the shirtless selfies and flex-in-the-gym pics you're trying to keep hidden, no?
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#52

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

I just signed up for a month of IG management for my bands page. If I see a noticeable results I will let you guys know, it's with a guy I work with so he's totally legit and gave me a decent price.

"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
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#53

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Good info guys. A lot of stuff I have already inplemented, but the software is a new idea. I've been doing everything manually.

To Slickyboy, i plan on releasing my "other" page on my regular IG once I get to 100k followers so all the haters and sloots can see me as a pseudo celeb swimming in pussy.
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#54

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-17-2016 11:59 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

After reading this well done take on how to get laid with Instagram I'd venture to say that dating sites as we know them are on the way out. Instagram is more real, while at the same time appearing a bit contrived.

Sure, the photos are often staged and the settings insincere, but think about the alternative. A dating site can have a couple of profile pics taken five years ago when the girl was still hot, but Instagram by design demands constant new material - there's only so many MySpace angles a girl can take of herself before it's clear she's actually a SIF.

So, while companies like Match Group (owner of Match, POF, OKC...) will probably always be around to some degree, they face a serious problem with the platform model of IG. Match spends millions perfecting algorithms to perfect match ups, yet the fundamental setback with dating sites is everybody lies their asses off about everything - they always have since the dinosaur days of the personal columns in newspapers.

Dating sites tried the picture & paragraph route, then got fancy with targeted questioning for profile info. In fact, the pictures themselves were secondary to the business model - I never heard of anybody getting their OKC profile pics rejected because some reviewer thought they were inaccurate or too old.

IG never bothered with profile paragraphs or questions that can be manipulated - the photos are the primary purpose. Consequently, when it comes to an accurate picture of who you might consider dating, Match and the rest will never catch up as they cannot possibly provide a fresh stream of actual, current pictures of people living their lives.

From the pictures, a person can also get a feel for other aspects of the person in the picture - what she wears, what she likes, activities she does, what her friends look like, etc. etc. Instagram is all about this, and fakers can be quickly detected. Narcissistic as it may be, I would not ignore this trend.

This is right on. I missed the first wave of the apps which have now found their course (death).

Doesn't this also give you the ability to ditch facebook entirely?

I'm sick of being the only person on there anyway that posts an interesting article, doesn't virtue signal, and actually will debate something thoughtfully vs. being labeled a "troll."

The 60-70% drones on facebook aren't worth anybody's time, not that you guys didn't know that already. Maybe it's time for a full dismantling.
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#55

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

How do people message a girl on Instagram i mean it not like Tinder you can do a standard chat?

It feel weird to open up on Instagram without coming across as some strange guy sending a message?
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#56

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-22-2016 03:17 PM)RichyB187 Wrote:  

How do people message a girl on Instagram i mean it not like Tinder you can do a standard chat?

It feel weird to open up on Instagram without coming across as some strange guy sending a message?

I usually send good morning meme with their name in it and say something like "I came across this on the internet and it made me think of you." I always get a response, and will keep the convo going if I get further IoI's
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#57

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-15-2016 01:00 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Quote: (06-15-2016 11:22 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

OK, can someone give an overview of how using Instagram to get laid works? Does it include some GPS or location thing and a messaging aspect like on tinder?

You can search for hashtags and locations. For example, you could find all users who recently posted a picture with the hashtag #bangkok or everyone who posted a picture and geotagged it to a location, for example "RCA - Route 66". This way you can find everyone who went to a particular club or event the night before and posted it on Instagram. Pretty powerful if you ask me.

There was a time when Instagram didn't allow to message other users but nowadays you can message and chat with others just like on every other social media app. The big advantage is - as OP already pointed out - that you have much less and much weaker competition on Instagram as there are not many guys who have a good IG page with a big following.

I started taking Instagram seriously about 3 months ago. Since then I have used various methods to grow my page and will hit 10,000 followers (with 1,000 to 2,000 likes for most pictures) at the end of the month (I am currently growing at a rate of ~100 new followers per day). I only post 1 pic every week or so but I try to only post high quality pics. I haven't tried to get laid from Instagram so far as I am still focusing on growing but I did get some messages and phone numbers from good looking girls in my "niche". If I actively searched and messaged girls on Instagram, I am pretty sure it would be a lot more effective than Tinder.

I wouldn't recommend to buy fake followers unless your followers-to-like ratio is outstanding. My ratio is pretty good. I could probably buy 10k followers and nobody would notice because having 20k followers and more than 1k likes on your pictures doesn't look suspicious. If you plan to monetize your site by promoting products of other companies in your niche once you are big enough, you shouldn't buy any fake followers at all.

I will probably write a datasheet in the next couple of months. Fisto's sheet is good and already covers many things. However, it doesn't really cover the most important aspect: how to really grow your page and monetize it. In the end the amount of followers defines your status on Instagram. With a big following comes power. Just imagine having 100k+ followers of a certain demographic and target group and then marketing some of your own products to them via your page.

thanks!

It will be very good advice for sure.

Could you post IG accounts of guys who are doing quite well?

I will post the ones who caught my attention, let me know your impressions about them:

https://www.instagram.com/mariohervas/

https://www.instagram.com/nick__bateman/

https://www.instagram.com/jeffkasser/?hl=es

https://www.instagram.com/tavicastro/

(just as example)


Maybe it's not their goal but I'm sure they're leveraging lot of pussy based on their online perceived status..and not only from shallow girls but also the average ones(most of young girls use IG and are hooked to it, e just have to adapt to the modern times)
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#58

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-25-2016 09:08 AM)Rendőrség Wrote:  

Could you post IG accounts of guys who are doing quite well?

I will post the ones who caught my attention, let me know your impressions about them:

https://www.instagram.com/mariohervas/

https://www.instagram.com/nick__bateman/

https://www.instagram.com/jeffkasser/?hl=es

https://www.instagram.com/tavicastro/

(just as example)


Maybe it's not their goal but I'm sure they're leveraging lot of pussy based on their online perceived status..and not only from shallow girls but also the average ones(most of young girls use IG and are hooked to it, e just have to adapt to the modern times)

I'm not that impressed with the quality of the chicks commenting on these guys pics. Any of us could pull chicks like that off okc with just 5 profile pics we never need to update.

Side thought: another strategy could be to link your IG to your okc profile but put all of your shirtless body/lifting pics in IG because those kinds of pics are acceptable within that platform but they are not acceptable directly on okc. It's a way to show off without being labeled a douche.
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#59

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Anyone with more input?

Should you go for a theme?
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#60

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

How to initially add followers, friends through fb?
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#61

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-21-2016 10:37 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

I just signed up for a month of IG management for my bands page. If I see a noticeable results I will let you guys know, it's with a guy I work with so he's totally legit and gave me a decent price.

It's been a little over a week now and my band's page has gone from 90 followers to almost 400.

"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
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#62

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

I, too, would like to add to the chorus of getting a pro or program to manage your followers for you.

I started out at 80, honest hard-gained followers. These were real people who actually liked my stuff. But man it was some slow ass growth. And I have a pretty decent page with good content. But I would post some of my best work and get, like 35 likes on a good day.

After using a service, I now have over 750 followers. Several of my pieces have over 150 likes and my phone is blowing up with IG notifications all day.

Out of this, so far I have been:
-Hit up for a commission job to make some art for someone. He backed out, but prior to this I wasn't even getting likes, much less asked to do paid commissions
-Opened by some artist chick, I think I mentioned it earlier in the thread. Wasn't my type, but cool to connect with an artist across the country who was quite skilled
-Pipelined this girl in Mexico who is pretty hot. At least a HB7. Did one comment on her page and she moved it to DM, where we started sending each other pics and flirting/sexualizing the convo. I plan on going there soon, and now I have a chick that's very eager to meet with me and show me around when I get there. I think my artwork did a lot of DHV for me.

My entire page has been focused around my work, the only thing that identifies me is my small profile pic, where I'm custom suited up. Girls that would comment on my work asked for FB or other social media so they could see my face. I take this as a good sign.

I think to really make the most of this, I need some cool lifestyle DHV pics doing some cool shit, shirtless at the beach, around cool people, no selfies etc. Basically I need to put more of myself in there. This combined with my art would give me a pretty solid profile. Apparently it really does "go down in the DM".

So yeah this shit works.
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#63

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

1) the likes that you are getting via instagress, followliker, are they converting into more likes of your content?

2) where are the follows coming from? Do you set what you want your target audience to be? Are they coming from followers of other ig users who are popular?

I know one of them has a "3 day" edition I want to see how many I can test out just for the day but I'm leaning towards instagress because I'm not trying to leave my computer on for days at a time.....hell with that

3) out of instagress, followliker, etc which one gives quality followers who will actually like your content?
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#64

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-30-2016 11:14 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

Quote: (06-21-2016 10:37 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

I just signed up for a month of IG management for my bands page. If I see a noticeable results I will let you guys know, it's with a guy I work with so he's totally legit and gave me a decent price.

It's been a little over a week now and my band's page has gone from 90 followers to almost 400.

We are at 1100 now. Average 50 likes per picture. All organic follows and likes. I think this is probably the best way to go if you want to pimp your profile quick and cheap. PM me if you want to know which service I'm using.

"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
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#65

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (07-20-2016 07:30 PM)toejam Wrote:  

1) the likes that you are getting via instagress, followliker, are they converting into more likes of your content?

2) where are the follows coming from? Do you set what you want your target audience to be? Are they coming from followers of other ig users who are popular?

I know one of them has a "3 day" edition I want to see how many I can test out just for the day but I'm leaning towards instagress because I'm not trying to leave my computer on for days at a time.....hell with that

3) out of instagress, followliker, etc which one gives quality followers who will actually like your content?

1) Yes. A lot of the people I follow via followliker will either follow me back or like a couple of my pictures or like all of my pictures (!) or follow back and like a lot of my pictures.

2) They are coming from other followers of IG users who are in the same niche as I. This way I can make sure that the people I am following with followliker are already interested in the niche and it is very likely that they will be interested in my page and thus follow me and like my pictures. But there are many other ways to auto-follow users. For example, you can follow everyone who posted a picture in a particular location or with a particular hashtag. Or users who liked or commented a particular picture.

Depending on how many follows you are doing per day and on what intervall you set the software, you only have to leave your computer on for 8-10 hours per day.

3) All of them work in the same way. All of them should give you users who like your content, that is if you target the right people.
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#66

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Sorry guys.

Instagram is straight horrible for meeting girls. Unless you're famous.

It's a bunch of girls looking for their egos stroked. Tried several different methods

Yelp is also horrible unless you go to the events in person.

Did 1 month experiments on both and both were terrible. Girls aren't there to met random guys. Waste of time.

Had plenty of followers and good pics. etc.

Instagram is only good if you know the already or meet them in person beforehand.

Online dating or day or night pickup only.
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#67

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

I am doing ok with my instagram.

I'm getting alot of interest from girls but none in my area.... I need to setup my instagress to start targeting local girls in the city.

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#68

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To respond to Smashley, the idea is getting "famous" It's decent for passiv pussy if you have an account with 5 figure followers. Well into 6 figures I'd imagine would be a gold mine.
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#69

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

My method of using Instagram to my advantage is mostly done through actual approaching as opposed to online.

1. Approach girl as you normally would.

2. Run your routine game, but make sure to mention Insta and get her to follow you on Instagram and vice-versa.

3. Text as normal, but this time hopefully with a strong Instagram account which shows your cool lifestyle and builds your social proof and value (through high followers, likes and cool pictures).

Also, if you've read Suits' "Party Host Game" data sheet, the combination of getting girls Instagram and inviting them to your own parties is very effective.
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#70

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (07-20-2016 08:24 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

Quote: (06-30-2016 11:14 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

Quote: (06-21-2016 10:37 AM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

I just signed up for a month of IG management for my bands page. If I see a noticeable results I will let you guys know, it's with a guy I work with so he's totally legit and gave me a decent price.

It's been a little over a week now and my band's page has gone from 90 followers to almost 400.

We are at 1100 now. Average 50 likes per picture. All organic follows and likes. I think this is probably the best way to go if you want to pimp your profile quick and cheap. PM me if you want to know which service I'm using.

Glad to hear you going this route, given your target audience.
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#71

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (06-15-2016 11:22 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

OK, can someone give an overview of how using Instagram to get laid works? Does it include some GPS or location thing and a messaging aspect like on tinder?

I spent about 5 minutes on instagram, there is a messaging system, you list your hometown. I assume the girls with thousands of followers have a gazillion guys messaging them, so maybe go for the girls with a smaller following, who are new to instagram and are less likely to be flooded with messages.
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#72

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

I created an account and dumped some of my cool photos in it. I'm into photography so I tossed a few of my travel photos in there and also my personal photos. I probably should have had my personal photos in another account separate from my niche photography account.

Anyone experience in this. Is it possible to have a niche account and also a personal photo feed all in one insta account?

I don't want to be all over the place but I also don't want to manage multiple accounts.
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#73

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Just tried the Boostgram 3-day trial. Went from 250 to 400 followers in 3 days. Would recommend. Gonna trial all of the other services as well.

No luck getting girls to reply though, I've messaged 6-7 so far. None of them follow me so I suppose they don't get the notifications. It will be interesting to see if I get more replies as I climb towards 1000.
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#74

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Pancake
Did the increase in followers also increase your likes?

Also what are the sources of the followers? Tags or followers of a specific account?

Instagress has a three day trial if you want to compare the two
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#75

On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis

Quote: (07-31-2016 09:46 PM)toejam Wrote:  

Pancake
Did the increase in followers also increase your likes?

Also what are the sources of the followers? Tags or followers of a specific account?

Instagress has a three day trial if you want to compare the two

Hard to tell if it increased the likes, I use Tags4Likes to tag all of my photos to get 30-50 on each photo. I don't really care about likes though, I imagine that girls only look at your follower count.

It lets you pick the sources for tags, I chose fitness-related tags as I post a lot of fitness photos.

I'll try out Instagress next, thanks for that tip.
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