[Bycicleguy]

On the last year, I have met really good looking guys and smart guys stuck with trashy 4's. On the other hand, last week I met a high pitched voice, super-skinny guy who was good with women, I felt really uncomfortable with the way he talked, he sounded like a girl, but for someone who looks and speaks like that, to see him have that kind of success was mind blowing. I have met guys like that before, fat-ass bastards with annoying voices that would be at the bar approaching every time I go and at the end landing a dime. Real numbers game.

I realized guys who I see get what they want in life, be it money or women, are just the ones who are going for it no matter what, this might sound obvious, but most of the guys I met all my life are happy with just an average girl (or no girl at all) and a little money to buy beer at the end of the week. They might complain about how hot chicks go after the rich guys or ripped guys, but they never try to change anything to become one of those guys, they just accept the hierarchy. No ambition.

[Satoshi]

Yeah it's true.

[stefpdt]

Ambition shows a lot of the traits that girls would've been attracted to from an evolutionary perspective. Being a leader of men is the biggest one, and being able to command attention and respect is all very primal stuff too.

At the same time, I've worked with too many 'entrepreneurs' who are insanely ambitious but also mildly autistic. This puts them in a weird conundrum of having lots of money and power without as much of the game side. These guys usually have unbelievable businesses, but run beta style game which relies too much on p4p-style relationships.

The best combo is being able to be ambitious in your business or career, but also having an ''off switch" for when you just want to run game or flirt.

[Khan]

(06-12-2016 12:09 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

At the same time, I've worked with too many 'entrepreneurs' who are insanely ambitious but also mildly autistic. This puts them in a weird conundrum of having lots of money and power without as much of the game side. These guys usually have unbelievable businesses, but run beta style game which relies too much on p4p-style relationships.

The same goes for a lot of men in engineering/science. They can be very ambitious, yet autistic and nerdy as hell at the same time. On the other hand, there are drug dealers and bums who have no ambition whatsoever, but still bang like there's no tomorrow.

That's why I'd say ambition is perhaps the core trait of a leader, but not of an alpha, if you define alpha as the one who gets all the pussy. Leader of men and alpha can be mutually exclusive.

[stefpdt]

Completely agree with you Khan. I was saying that ambition and alpha can have overlapping traits, but they're definitely far from the same.

Rollo's article about the alpha sunglasses kid was probably one of the clearest examples of how some random fucker is more likely to be an alpha male than a corporate exec.

Sometimes ambition can help build that attitude, but way more commonly it's the guys who literally don't think about their actions (convicts, drug dealers) that have top dog traits.

I like to think that readers of rvf are pretty lucky to have the opportunity to build these kinds of traits without doing weekends in the county jail or worrying about cops throwing a flash grenade through your window at night.

[Pride male]

Heartiste and his theories fucked me up. Glad I dont read him anymore. There is no fucking alpha, beta, omega. I know this runs contrary to many peoples beliefs here, but I believe just being yourself works most of the time.

[Fortis]

^ Yes and no. being yourself is important, but if that self is shitty and has low self-worth then you won't get far.

I am being myself now, but I improved myself into something better over the last 2 years. I had to become motivated enoguh to stop sucking.

[Goelsaab]

Glad to see someone nailed it.

[Kid Twist]

Remember what Emil said in "Can I get a?"

"Ambition makes me so horny"

ps - the only interesting rap lyrics I ever heard from a female. I presume it was because she was honest about how women thought/felt, and also was accurate.

[Comte De St. Germain]

Alpha/Beta that isn't important. Seriously I thought that anyone reading this forum would get that already. We're humans there's no black or white on that.

If women find it attractive? Hell yes they do. Why do you think they grow fat and bitchy when married after they hit the wall? Women hate complacency in men and hate to grow complacent themselves.

I've always had the the theory that the reason women chase new "feels" is because they hate to grow complacent in terms of their looks ever. So they ride out dressing nice/looking sexy for as long as they can(not that their heavy boozing and extremely heavy pack a day smoking doesn't have its toll) to justify it as chasing new "feels".

Ambition in a man is the sweet nectar of genetic success to a woman's loins. Why else would they be down to suck Presidential or CEO cock so easily? It's the same reason a lot of attractive women get a business degree of some sort these days to land an attractive, ambitious man.

[ScrapperTL]

Ambition can be trained and taught.
Just 4 years ago I was a wage slave, internally miserable, yet completely brainwashed myself to be believe I was content, a facade of pseudo-happiness.

Found the Red Pill around 3 to 3.5 years ago and instead of letting it crush my soul - I harnessed the lessons & resurrected myself into a different human being altogether.

Fast forward and now I own Equity in 5 different companies, some of them are making great revenue & some of them are pre-revenue.
ALL of them are truly bringing me more fulfillment than I ever imagined possible. The amount of passion I have for life now compared to 4 years ago is night and day. I literally leap out of bed at 4:30am excited to take on the world. I have a hard time falling asleep at night. I lay around imagining what entrepreneurial possibilities I can make happen. I'm looking to go into politics within the next 5 years.

I HAVE NO BOSS, I am the boss.

Ambition is something you can develop the ever loving shit out of.
Raise your expectations, standards and your bar.
Simply doing this mentally, will make it happen over time in the physical realm.