[262]

^ Agree.

I'd also like to add that just as women set the standard for men by choosing who and how they fuck (usually guys with Game on the first date or less, at least in the West), men set the standard for women by choosing who and how they LTR.

So, if you want better women, especially in the West, then be a part of the solution, and have above-average standards for women (of course, you have to be above-average yourself).

Don't let anyone say "YOU'RE INSECURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE!" for that.

[realologist]

All I've gotten from this is that a lot of the men on this site still need to choose better and higher quality women for LTR.

If it's a plate you spin who gives a fuck if she likes to hang out in pubs, bars, clubs, etc. She is just a plate so it doesn't matter.

If it's a LTR that should be a girl you have at least some thoughts for a future with. I mean why get in a LTR if there isn't a possibility for more? If you are in LTR with no possibility for more than you are wasting your time and that is a real lack of abundance mentality because you are LTRing a girl for no reason other than comfort and familiarity. In that case you wouldn't want a girl that drinks too much. Occasionally dinner and drinks with her friends that's alright. Anything more is just a recipe for relationship disaster.

[General Stalin]

Team No Bar Flies. Certain types of girls like to spend their casual time at watering holes. Those types of girls aren't my type for any kind of serious/committed relationship.

On the topic of control/insecurity: One should let a girl know early on what you like and don't like, then she can conduct herself accordingly depending on whether or not she wants to win your favor (this assumes you care for having a girl around as a long term deal, otherwise why scare the cat if she's just a fuckbuddy). If a girl is a bar-goer and you say you don't like bar chicks and she stops then there you go. If she isn't changing her lifestyle for you then next. Simple as that.

Having preferences is not insecure. That being said, as I said above, it's no secret that girls' with certain demeanors find themselves at home in the bar/club/whatever. I'd consider that a relationship liability at the least, and if a girl is "serious" about a man then she would not put herself in situations that may jeopardize the trust and relationship as a whole. Besides, if a girl is looking to go out and have a good time, she will want her man with her. If not, then I believe that's saying something.

[Mr. D]

(03-04-2016 03:18 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

Even if it's not too often, would you let your LTR or a wife hang out with her group of friends(some of them male friends) in places like pubs and bars?

Only if she's the bartender.

[Dino]

(03-04-2016 03:18 AM)nomadd Wrote:  

Even if it's not too often, would you let your LTR or a wife hang out with her group of friends(some of them male friends) in places like pubs and bars?

Will you join her when she hangs out with group of people that you don't like only to show some appearance?
Would you mind if she goes to a gay party? In the past I thought it's ok, but it's still disgusting.

I think it's not feminine when women drink, even if it's only one beer, but it's even worse if the boyfriend is not around.

I meet too many women that think it's normal and conventional, it seems that they try to shame me because of my opinion in that matter.
I ended some relationships because of that, am I too harsh?

Why is this question even being asked? I think the common bond we all have here is the goal of not having this type of testosterone fueled whore bag in our lives.

I like the majority prefer sweet, submissive, attractive, and pleasant women. Pleasant also means pleasing as in fulfilling my wants and needs. In exchange her needs are met.

It's what makes it all work.

[Gmac]

(03-04-2016 09:34 AM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  



If your wife wants to hang out in pubs, you have chosen poorly.

This 1000%.

[Travesty]

(03-13-2016 12:10 AM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  

I think most girls like an authoritative man that tells them what he wants and expects out of the relationship, you shouldn't ever be afraid to lay down the law.

I agree this may be needed for small offenses, I think trying to change a girl's normal social habits is just a loss of effort.

The rewards from screening better in the first place and having the confidence to let these difficult chicks go I think will always pay off better.

Now if the girl is just a plate and she is starting to game play or waste time (flaking or playing retarded jealousy games) I agree laying down the law can help get her back in line quick or it self-nexts her. It is like having to babysit a poorly raised child though.

Nobody wants to get fulltime custody of that brat.

[Mr Finish]

If I'm there, yes.
If not, this is how you get cheated on.

[Ingocnito]

In today's social constructs re. LTR/Wife, I use basically a method I call the:

Lowest Common Denominator Chain Weight: This means essentially if girl is seemingly too good or too bad (or changes into that over time), you're getting ALL the bad no matter what. Extreme honesty, extreme anything, her going out of her way to make a point very clearly and succinct of anything re. men, or friends, or whereabouts is the indicator to be on watch and distance yourself, especially if it's a jealousy shit test you already passed long ago (remember we're talking LTR/wife so), and if there's repetition of her reminding you there's no past or desire involved with guys there... beware.

A girl that casually says:"Hey, gonna meet Tiffany and her boyfriend at the restaurant and have a beer, see you at 8 after that.." isn't extreme or notable. So usually safe in such revelations. It's natural, normal, not overly succinct.

The girl that seems too good - as in anything too good to be true is - is definitely putting up a front. Watch for girls that go out of their way to do or tell you things that are too forthright with you, in comparison to the minimum feminist indoctrination ALL modern women carry. Women are always vague by nature of their solipsism.

Very common as you get older when some of the girls you fuck have a kid or two:

Her: "Hey, I didn't want you to get mad, so I wanted to let you know upfront I'm hanging out with Steve and his two little girls tonight, because our kids have been friends for years."

You: "OK, well as long as it doesn't break my requirements of NOT hanging out or remaining in contact with guys you used to fuck." << using her kids for cheating excuse

Her: "Gross, I'd never touch him.. Yuk!" << yea right bitch. Play date with a guy and his kids you made a point of me "not getting mad over" = sneak off to upstairs in locked bedroom when kids are preoccupied downstairs, for a quick BJ or half clothed dick ride.

Paranoid? I think not. Again, why assume you'd be pissed if you never put off jealous vibe, or protective neediness? She's projecting onto you her inner thoughts, as if to imply you're the one who "might" have the issue.

Then, the following Thursday when she's kidless and you have yours or hitting the sack and she normally sends the GN text and doesn't... well that's Steve's dick in your bitch my friend.

Now, the girl that's obviously acting bad, sluttish, and all around shady.. well take all your suspicions and x2-x5 to get the truth buried in your mind. << The "chain weight" effect I mentioned completes full circle per my concept.

[Deepdiver]

The way to lead as an Alpha male in this regard is that when it seems she is sleeping over every weekend and you are spending more Net Flix and Chill time together to save for vacations together or other events - well you may not be in an LTR but you are in a "relationship".

This is where the smart man who knows how to lead will ask something even a truth or dare game moment "What are your red flags in a long term relationship?". She will either be relieved you asked and open up happy that the idea of an LTR has entered your mind or she will be very coy because she does not want to give up her Tuesday and Thursday night guy she is banging at her place.

You listen to her Red Flags and then you share your Red Flags couched in a light that any woman I would consider to be the potential Mother of my children would never cross the line with your deal breaker red flags.

If you need a list Google RVF for the extensive red flags threads.

[IronShark]

If she is my wife, then she is not going to hang out in any meeting market like pubs, clubs and etc.

My wife's place is at home. FULL STOP

[Fortis]

Don't get with girls who wanna hang in bars and pubs.

[Adrenaline]

One lesson I learnt early on in life is if she's gonna cheat, she's gonna cheat. Let her go wherever she pleases because if you forbid women from doing something, they're only going to spite you by finding a way to cheat anyway.

If she's capable of going home with a random guy from the bar, she's a slut and you shouldn't be serious with her regardless.

[Onto]

When a woman accuses her man of being "jealous", "insecure", or "controlling" what she is really saying is, "I want to be free to do my own thing without being called on it"

Next, when a woman tells her man she has a guy-friend she is either kidding him or kidding herself.

Finally, all people have a natural tendency towards giving in to temptation. Fidelity is a very difficult thing to achieve, that's why it's so coveted. The best way to ensure a faithful relationship/marriage is for each person to remove themselves where temptation can occur. If you're not willing to do that, then why even be married? Just stay single.

More Finally, it takes real strength to put your foot down and deny your ltr/wife the freedom she used to enjoy when she was single. Many men like to pretend they are being strong by not being "jealous", "insecure", etc. I think that's bullshit and taking the easy way out because you're afraid to lose the pussy. The hard way is putting your foot down.

Ignore all the above at your own peril. You will learn it the hard way eventually.

[LongDongSilver]

I agree with putting your foot down, if you dont want her doing something, dont let her do it, if she doesnt listen then dump her ass. If a girl is really feeling you, she shouldnt give a rats ass about attention whoring with her hyena pack anyway.

As a youngster i would let my girl at the time do whatever she wanted, texting her ex happy b day, going out with mixed groups with dudes who want to fuck her etc. she would ask me permission and i would green light her antics.. Was thinking about this a few days ago and in retrospect i should have definitely set some boundaries instead of basically being cool with psychologically cucking myself.

This same habitual line stepping mynx had the temerity to pull shit like send me 20+ texts if i didnt respond quickly, ranging from pure rage to begging over a few hour period and throwing crying fits, threatening self harm etc. if i went out with my boys and didnt come straight home at 10 pm or whatever arbitrary bullshit her little pea brain stewed up.

[262]

^ She was probably projecting on to you what she was doing herself.

[Cataldes]

Letting her is irrelevant, if she wants to she will do it behind my back.

That being said, I wouldn't date any woman who goes to male and alcoholic venues, those girls are for pumps and dumps.

[Designate]

(03-27-2016 02:06 PM)Onto Wrote:  

When a woman accuses her man of being "jealous", "insecure", or "controlling" what she is really saying is, "I want to be free to do my own thing without being called on it"

I absolutely agree with this premise but I think this is dangerous for a player to apply this to every situation.

Being "jealous/insecure/controlling" could actually mean you are being a thirsty/needy simp who lacks an abundance mindset.

It's amazing at how candid chicks can be sometimes without them having some ulterior motive.

Some are just going to call you out if you are plain fucking up. (Doesn't mean you should keep them around any longer for displaying that behavior)

Just call it a reality check if you will or taking an L. Occasionally a player needs to look in the mirror and learn a hard lesson.

[WestIndianArchie]

You heading to the club?
Word?
With Shelly and Keisha?
Naw I don't have a problem with it, you grown.
Do what you want, I just didn't realize this was a casual relationship. That's my mistake.

Lemme help you pick out some clothes, you don't know how to show yourself off right.

I'm not controlling you, I'm giving you your freedom. You can do whatever you want. I'll never stop you.
Go, with my blessings.
Here's twenty for the first few cosmos.

Mad?, no I'm relieved.
That takes a huge load off my back. I thought you was trying to be serious. I been laying low for these past few months, I been itching to get back out there.

But this is what you want, why would I stand in your way?
I'm encouraging you.
Enjoy yourself.
You might even meet someone

WIA

[1026]

Uhhh!...
^^ added to the bag of tricks^^

[Artiste]

(03-30-2016 04:30 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

You heading to the club?...

[Artiste]

*double post*