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[Samseau]

It's one thing to dislike guys who are happy a woman killed herself.

It's quite another to talk about how you're too good for this forum, or cannot relate to any of the guys here because they did something your "morals" don't agree with.

Seriously, that sanctimony is meaningless, and this forum loses nothing if it goes.

BeyondBorders, your hypocrisy is especially off the charts, where is your 2 page eulogy for the two million Christians who have been genocided in the Middle East by ISIS over the last three years? Instead you're going to lecture us about a single woman who killed herself, in an act of selfish slutdom?



The guys who made fun of the woman who kills herself are still 10x my brother over the man who pretends to be righteous. You're not fooling me.

[Huey]

[SamuelBRoberts]

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That doesn't mean we can't have an intellectual discussion about her fate...

Is this woman a victim of her time? A victim of her own decisions?

Very possibly, but you can't let some time go by to discuss that? And even if not, that doesn't mean you stand around in a circle jerk gloating and acting hard and making jokes at her expense.

I disagree completely. This woman is a selfish brat who deserves nothing but laughter and derision. She'll get no sympathy from me. I don't know how to place mocking cat GIFs on the page, or I'd place a dozen.

When she killed herself, she didn't just end her own life, she created a giant sucking hole in the lives of everyone around her. What do you think that boyfriend's life is going to be like from now on? What of his newlywed wife? They should be focused on building a new family right now, and instead they've been torn apart by the selfish actions of a used-up carousel-riding whore. What about their kids, when they have them?
A suicide creates a massive chain of misery that spreads from person to person. Everyone who knew her, everyone who ever interacted with her, has now had their lives irrevocably altered for the worse. And it goes beyond that, even. Suicide is contagious: one death sets off others. It's quite possible that other people are going to die because of this slut, particularly given the dramatic way she offed herself and the news coverage that came with it.

And what was her excuse? Did she have terminal cancer, and the mounting medical bills were threatening to impoverish her family? Was she in crippling pain, to the point that she couldn't sleep, couldn't function, and her every moment was a waking nightmare? Did she wake up at age 40 and realize she had no job, no family, and no hope of improving herself?

Nope. Little princess didn't get to marry the boy she wanted, so she pitched a hissy fit and offed herself. No regard for the consequences this would have on other people. No thought for anyone but herself. She was 31 and hot. She could've had a husband by June and a family by next march if she wanted it. But she chose to be a drama queen instead.

You asked if I would say these things to her family's face. And the answer is no, because that would make their misery worse, and I don't want to do that. But the facts are what they are, and just because I want to show more consideration for her family than she ever did doesn't change them. The facts are these: she's a selfish bint who needed a slap across the face, and she deserves no sympathy whatsoever.

Now, I know that I may not be Teh Hardcorez® and I haven't "Seen Things"™ like you have. My life isn't a rerun of a Golden Earring music video, complete with cool guitar solo. But I've been in bad spots. I've been up late and alone at night, wondering if it was even worth trying to go on. But in the end, I held on, and part of the reason was that I didn't want to hurt the people who cared about me.

She made the opposite choice. She deserves nothing but scorn for it.

[Latan]

[GlobalMan]

(03-30-2016 04:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

BeyondBorders, your hypocrisy is especially off the charts, where is your 2 page eulogy for the two million Christians who have been genocided in the Middle East by ISIS over the last three years?

This is the lowest of low sucker punches.

So because BB doesn't comment much in political topics and hasn't specifically denounced the terrible killing of specific groups that means that 1)He doesn't care about them and 2)He therefore cannot show sympathy for any death, and if he does so then he's "pretending to be righteous"

Laughably ridiculous Samseau.

[MiscBrah]

[Anabasis to Desta]

(03-30-2016 04:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

BeyondBorders, your hypocrisy is especially off the charts, where is your 2 page eulogy for the two million Christians who have been genocided in the Middle East by ISIS over the last three years? Instead you're going to lecture us about a single woman who killed herself, in an act of selfish slutdom?

You know i love you Samseau but please provide some proof for that. I don't buy it.

[Samseau]

(03-30-2016 04:42 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 04:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

BeyondBorders, your hypocrisy is especially off the charts, where is your 2 page eulogy for the two million Christians who have been genocided in the Middle East by ISIS over the last three years?

This is the lowest of low sucker punches.

So because BB doesn't comment much in political topics and hasn't specifically denounced the terrible killing of specific groups that means that 1)He doesn't care about them and 2)He therefore cannot show sympathy for any death, and if he does so then he's "pretending to be righteous"

Laughably ridiculous Samseau.

Not even ridiculous.

Beyond Borders does not have one post in the Migrant Invasion thread or the Brussell Bombing thread.

This guy does nothing to talk about genuine victims or discuss truly difficult problems, instead he comes to white knight for females he knows nothing about in order to score holy points so people will go to his site and perhaps buy whatever garbage he's selling.

He is as phony as a three-dollar bill.

I've seen him do this sanctimony act a few times now, the most recent before this thread over about how guys were talking about the mall worker who melted down and murdered a female who got him fired. I don't read of all his posts so I'm sure there are more instances of his pharisee act.

This isn't the first time I've called out Beyond Hypocrisy: thread-48271...pid1046521

Do people actually believe his story of running away to Thailand in order to escape some guy who wanted to murder him? Why not just call the cops?

What's truly sad is that people fall for these lies, it's very dangerous to be so easily fooled. I honestly find G Manifesto more believable than Beyond Faker.

This guy doesn't have a single post in any of the threads talking about actual tragedies and unjust situations, yet he comes into these random hot topics in order to posture as morally superior most likely to drive clicks to his online business. Again, you can fool a lot of people but you'll never fool me.

Beyond Lies is literally the Ted Cruz of the forum. I've given him a lot of benefit of the doubt but after years of this nonsense it's time for the callout.

[Samseau]

(03-30-2016 05:51 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 04:16 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

BeyondBorders, your hypocrisy is especially off the charts, where is your 2 page eulogy for the two million Christians who have been genocided in the Middle East by ISIS over the last three years? Instead you're going to lecture us about a single woman who killed herself, in an act of selfish slutdom?

You know i love you Samseau but please provide some proof for that. I don't buy it.

thread-54551...pid1255588

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“Religious and ethnic minority groups in the Middle East are deliberately targeted by ISIS for destruction,” Mr. Napier said. “The number of Christians has dropped from 2 million to under 1 million in Syria, and from 1.4 million to under 260,000 in Iraq in just a few years. The atrocities include assassinations of church leaders, torture, mass murders, kidnapping, sexual enslavement and systematic rape of Christian and Yazidi girls and women, destruction of churches, monasteries and cemeteries.”

[samsamsam]

This guy killed himself and the RVF group had mixed opinions also.

thread-45018.html

I present this link as an example of the flip side of the woman here.

I was going to comment on what I noticed in this thread and then decided it would be best for those to judge for themselves.

[kaotic]

About the girl who killed herself in OP

(03-29-2016 11:00 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'm sure there's more to this story besides depression.

Hypergamy is making women kill themselves because they can't find a man that fits their standards.

While it is tragic, this explains so much about how women are today.

They realize their looks are going away and they actually -gasp- have to work at things.

Apparently she couldn't handle it despite having a decent professional job.

About the guy Sam is talking about who killed himself:

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Call me an asshole for feeling this way, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him one bit.

He didn't want to improve himself, so he offed himself, that's his fucking problem.

This is IRT manifestation.

No remorse from me.

Calling myself out on this one.

While yet still cynical I was more colder it seems to the man- could be the mood I was in, could be a double standard that might be in play.

Obviously there was a difference in my response for both.

Perhaps it was because the male who killed himself wrote a goodby note with IRT traits and the whole supposed height stigma. Where game could've saved his life.

Compared to a girl who just offed herself, because she couldn't get the cream of the crop locked down.

Maybe I've become more human from game/experiences/being on this forum.

[Travesty]

I will pray for both in heaven.

Have love for all.

Yet, know I alone wear the Virtue Crown amongst you apes.

Jesus texts me when he's bored.

[game_ethic]

[Leonard D Neubache]

Fat, ugly man suicides.



Pretty, fuckable woman suicides.



Put me in the "don't give a shit" basket.

The more fuckers that fawn their sympathies over women that do this, the more they encourage the next stupid, self-centered bitch to do likewise, just to get that last big hit of views of their fucking facebook page.

Please do not feed the monkeys.

[Phoenix]

(03-30-2016 12:01 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

Imagine you're in a room with family members of this woman present. Would you make these comments? If not, then you are a coward for doing so behind the safety of the internet - you're no better than the little jackasses spewing their vitriol on YouTube.

What would you do if you heard someone else make these comments in earshot of family members and you were present? If I was there, I'd very likely reach out and methodically slam such a class act on his face. And most old school men, those ones you claim to emulate, would do the same.

And maybe you wouldn't, but what if the woman was someone you knew or the people in earshot were? Would that change your standards for empathy and mutual respect?

Well, guess what, this is not a conversation in your living room with your buddy and a 6-pack of microbrews. This is a public space, and it's very possible someone's family will read what you post on a topic like this (not to mention your behavior influences others and spreads the sentiment wide). For all intents and purposes, we are all "in the same room" these days.

That doesn't mean we can't have an intellectual discussion about her fate...

I've not been following this thread, so I don't know exactly what this is in response to.

However, the way I read the above is an outright threat that BB would violently attack members of RVF for comments they've made that he finds unsavory. And this got 30+ likes.

This is an uncivilized sentiment.

[deerhunter]

My Dad explained "death by misadventure" to me when I was a kid. The story was about one of his cousins who was found swinging in the barn. Young guy. It was labeled "death by misadventure" by the Coroner . This was a common thing in Catholic Ireland.
Otherwise the guy could not have been buried in consecrated ground and was off to Hell in everybody's mind. The Coroner wasn't going to pile that on his family, everyone understands that including the priest. Suicide statistics are skewed in such a culture. Maybe this girl was Catholic, maybe the Coroner was also.

[Phoenix]

I might add that I do feel more sympathy towards a woman who suicides than a man who does. If only a little bit more. This is because I do not consider men and woman to be equally responsible for their actions. Women are always inherently child-like, this is just part of human sexual dimorphism (which includes things like their faces not changing much during puberty, but men's do). They do not have the same agency as men. They are creatures of emotion, whereas men are creatures of logic.

It is for this reason however that I also believe women should follow men. Patriarchy is normality, and has been the traditional form of social organization since forever. This comes directly from the sexual dimorphism described above.

Hence when a woman does something like this, I'm more inclined to lay more blame on the hierarchy above her. She has been guided into a bad life choice, like becoming a career woman or not marrying young, by all the signals she has been receiving from politicians, teachers, even parents. She is a woman -- she is inherently less equipped to think for herself and plot her own wise path.

A grown man, on the other hand, less sympathy. A boy -- sure. But a man I expect to take control of his life, to plot his course, to end up discovering and using places like RVF where he can learn no-bullshit truth that will then guide him. A man just giving up or claiming "he just ended up in a situation" I cannot respect or sympathize with.

When a woman does something like this, the first person I would look at is her father.

TL;DR: Women are not as responsible for their actions as men due to their inherently more child-like nature, but due to that they should commensurately submit to and follow the directions of men.

[MiscBrah]

I may have felt some emotion but I'll never admit it. It doesn't fit with the dark triad Internet persona I'm trying to build up.

[Delta]

Yes, she could have had a boyfriend in about 5 seconds if she really wanted one.
Yes, she probably had outrageous standards.
Yes, she probably rejected hundreds of solid guys.
Yes, being a decent looking girl in the west, she had it far easier than any of us will ever know. She had it far easier than basically the entire world population will ever know.

However, I don't think it much matters. Regardless of all that, she was in enough pain to feel that she'd be better off dead. That's a tragedy, period.

I lurked awhile before joining and I know the community has come under fire for supposedly "hating women." I can't think of any better way to convince people that's actually true than being gleeful about a woman's suicide.

[Latan]

^With due respect, I won't change my behaviour because some random SJW will think something bad about me.

I believe what I believe, without shame, without caring about other people's feelings.
Maybe I'm a disfunctionnal human being for not feeling anything about some stranger girl who died.
250K people die everyday on earth, I don't care about this either.
I won't make anything to change this trait of my personnality.

Once again, I still respect what other men think about this situation and don't judge them.
Everybody their own opinion.

[spokepoker]

(03-30-2016 08:20 PM)Delta Wrote:  

Yes, she could have had a boyfriend in about 5 seconds if she really wanted one.
Yes, she probably had outrageous standards.
Yes, she probably rejected hundreds of solid guys.
Yes, being a decent looking girl in the west, she had it far easier than any of us will ever know. She had it far easier than basically the entire world population will ever know.

However, I don't think it much matters. Regardless of all that, she was in enough pain to feel that she'd be better off dead. That's a tragedy, period.

I lurked awhile before joining and I know the community has come under fire for supposedly "hating women." I can't think of any better way to convince people that's actually true than being gleeful about a woman's suicide.

What? All suicides should be mocked and scorned in a healthy society. Otherwise there won't be much of a society left if everyone offs themselves at the first sign of hardship, so if you can't get those people drugs or help, at least stigmatize the fuck out of the action itself.
Oh poor girl, she was so edgy and brave. Since when did the coward's way out become acceptable?

[Rhyme or Reason]

(03-30-2016 08:20 PM)Delta Wrote:  

I can't think of any better way to make people believe that's actually true than being gleeful about a woman's suicide.

There's really not been anything egregiously offensive here compared to the dialogue that happens elsewhere on the internet. A few gifs of cats next to hanging bodies was the worst "offense" we've seen.

If you care what people think so much, why not go back to reddit so you can accrue upvotes? Maybe that would weigh better on your conscience? Take the concern trolling elsewhere. It's fucking textbook.

[dog24]

(03-30-2016 08:20 PM)Delta Wrote:  

Yes, she could have had a boyfriend in about 5 seconds if she really wanted one.
Yes, she probably had outrageous standards.
Yes, she probably rejected hundreds of solid guys.
Yes, she being a decent looking girl in the west, she had it far easier than any of us will ever know. She had it far easier than basically the entire world population will ever know.

However, I don't think it much matters. Regardless of all that, she was in enough pain to feel that she'd be better off dead. That's a tragedy, period.

I lurked awhile before joining and I know the community has come under fire for supposedly "hating women." I can't think of any better way to make people believe that's actually true than being gleeful about a woman's suicide.

Death is a part of life, if you acted stupid throughout your life well guess what 100 years from your death people are still gonna be saying damn that guy was stupid.

I hate it when hypocrites start saying r.i.p when politicians and other famous scumbags die and suddenly no one is allowed to say how much of a shitty person they actually were.

You don't know this girl, neither does anyone from this forum, stop pretening like you care about her anymore than the thousands of children who die everyday from causes totally out of their control.

She should have been reprimanded for her actions during her life, i don't see how her being death changes the fact that she made wrong decisions.

Beyond Borders i think you have some anger issues or something, no one is impressed when you talk about beating up people for saying stuff you don't agree with.

[Delta]

I didn't claim to care about this woman or feel sad about her death. I know countless people die every day under much tougher circumstances. I just think it's sick that some posts appear to take pleasure in it.