[XPQ22]

I've been away for a while. I've had to create a new account due to problems with my original email provider.

Attempting to get back into night game in the Boston/Providence area, after spending the summer having some success with online dating.

It has been brutal.

I've spent the past couple weeks hitting up various bars and clubs in the Boston/Providence area. I don't know whether it's because it's the holidays or what, but the ratios have been absolutely atrocious. 2:1 male to female at best and even worse if you include the number of chicks who roll up at the places with their boyfriend in tow.

I was at a bar in Cambridge tonight. It was packed, but again the ratios did not seem to be good. There were tons of dudes with their girlfriends, and while there appeared to be some single women, they all seemed to be in "gaggles" of bitches four or five strong taking selfies and completely locked-in and unapproachable. I did my best to open one or two of these groups with predictably dismal results. And it wasn't just me. I watched two or three other dudes attempt to roll up on these selfie-shooting girls and watched them get shut down just the same.

I actually keep getting opened by fucking dudes! I don't know if I just look friendly or gay or what, or maybe these guys just have nothing else to do because there are no women to talk to. I had to eject from one bar because this one guy wouldn't leave me the fuck alone.

I saw a dude with a long beard and one of those droopy "hipster" winter hats do a spin move. I saw a fucking real life spin move.

I had better luck in Providence. The ratios are just as bad, and many more unattractive/fat girls. But the women at least seemed somewhat more approachable. I at least took a number or two each time I was there. No such luck in Boston.

The summer was a happy time when my phone was blowing up from online dating chicks, and I managed to bang a couplel 6s and 7s (after putting in a lot of work). But I'm in a pretty deep slump at the moment. Not sure why I'm even bothering with night game in this area at this point as it just seems like a waste of money and time - going back to spamming messages on OKCupid seems like it would be more productive. But there's nothing I hate more than feeding the validation monsters.

Looking for any advice and maybe moral support that it's perhaps not me or my game that's the problem. Or if it is, I'm willing to hear that as well. Thanks.

[Prof. Ligate]

How many venue types have you tried? Clubs, lounges, dives, student bars?

Would have to give examples of your sets for any honest feedback

I get approached by dudes as much as I do girls. Use them to get into a heightened state. If they're being lame just do the old "it was nice talking to you" and leave

[XPQ22]

(12-06-2015 04:36 AM)Prof. Ligate Wrote:  

How many venue types have you tried? Clubs, lounges, dives, student bars?

Would have to give examples of your sets for any honest feedback

I get approached by dudes as much as I do girls. Use them to get into a heightened state. If they're being lame just do the old "it was nice talking to you" and leave

Mostly "trendy" bars in the Cambridge area. Many 20-something women in the 6-7 range for the most part, but very severe fuck-you attitude and extremely poor ratios.

I'm not sure there's much story to tell about my "sets". I've been going out solo for the most part - approaching a group of four or five women (which seems to be how single women in the area come) when solo is near certain death.

I'm in my 30s, and while I've hooked up with 20-somethings from online dating I have difficulty imagining myself successfully engaging with any of these girls.

I think I read somewhere on the Boston thread that Cambridge is a waste of time, and that may be correct.

[Prof. Ligate]

(12-06-2015 05:17 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 04:36 AM)Prof. Ligate Wrote:  

How many venue types have you tried? Clubs, lounges, dives, student bars?

Would have to give examples of your sets for any honest feedback

I get approached by dudes as much as I do girls. Use them to get into a heightened state. If they're being lame just do the old "it was nice talking to you" and leave

Mostly "trendy" bars in the Cambridge area. Many 20-something women in the 6-7 range for the most part, but very severe fuck-you attitude and extremely poor ratios.

I'm not sure there's much story to tell about my "sets". I've been going out solo for the most part - approaching a group of four or five women (which seems to be how single women in the area come) when solo is near certain death.

I'm in my 30s, and while I've hooked up with 20-somethings from online dating I have difficulty imagining myself successfully engaging with any of these girls.

I think I read somewhere on the Boston thread that Cambridge is a waste of time, and that may be correct.

I approach groups while rolling solo often. Usually just pick up on cues to the most available girl of the group (eyes wandering, low contribution to group conversation etc) and approach her first. Chances are you won't get a SNL from a girl in a group like this, but number closing swiftly is definitely possible if you are forward.

Obviously you need to go to different venues... but if you're having success with online dating I don't see why night game can't be fruitful after a bit more trial and error.

[XPQ22]

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I approach groups while rolling solo often. Usually just pick up on cues to the most available girl of the group (eyes wandering, low contribution to group conversation etc) and approach her first. Chances are you won't get a SNL from a girl in a group like this, but number closing swiftly is definitely possible if you are forward.

Obviously you need to go to different venues... but if you're having success with online dating I don't see why night game can't be fruitful after a bit more trial and error.

There was one chick in the last bar I went to who was a "7" and initially very friendly to me soon after I came in. I chatted with her for a bit - and then she introduced me to her mother, father and brother.

Her whole fucking family was there with her in the fucking bar and she was introducing me to them. I wish I was making this up. Her mom was about 55 and kept giving me the eye. It was like midnight and last call was at 1:30.

These are the circumstances under which I work.

[XPQ22]

I do appreciate the support. To look at things objectively, I see a couple basic problems with my situation at this point:

1) Poor logistics. I have my own place, but it's a good 40 minute drive outside the city. It makes SNLs more unlikely, and it's difficult to maintain the required energy to keep pushing forward when I know that the most I'll probably be getting is a phone number with a 50% chance of a non-response.

2) I'm older (30s) and I don't really stand out from the crowd very much. I'm just one bearded sorta-cool looking dude in a sea of trendy sorta-cool looking dudes plus or minus 5 years off my age. I'm tall and pretty fit, but that's nothing special. I also have receding hair, and while it's not too noticeable since I've been using medication and concealers, I sometimes wear a hat because I feel self-conscious, and I think that disqualifies me to some women.

Residual social anxiety. I still spend a lot of time worrying about what others "think" about me and if they think I'm "weird", looking at me or talking about me.

So basically I find myself standing around, feeling like a "6" to most girls when it's probably far better to be a "1" to some and a "10" to others. I'm trying to imagine my interactions and I'm thinking "If I were a woman, I don't think I'd pick this guy." And if I'm thinking it, then I would imagine they're thinking it as well.

The only thing that really sets me apart is my ability to have interesting conversation and on-point game in that regard. I know one of the main reasons I've pulled out lays from younger women doing online game is that I'm "observationally funny" and can pass shit-tests with ease, keeping the flow on without missing a beat.

The last bang I had from online dating told me directly at one point: "You know, these other Boston guys bore me. They want to talk about craft beers and stuff, and you talk about what life is like in <someplace nobody has ever been> and the fate of the universe. I really like that."

But my ability to do this seems to collapse when I start trying to interact in large groups of people with loud music. I get overwhelmed with stimuli and I just sort of shut down.

In that environment younger guys who are aggressively physical seem to win the day, and that's not me. I don't like moving around a lot as it makes me look bad, but I'm just not having any success running "most interesting man in the world" game hanging back by the bar in the venues I've been hitting. Nobody cares.

Someone in another thread was mentioning how to transition from night to day game - I actually have been finding day game in coffee shops and stores a LOT easier. I haven't got any lays from either situation at this point, but I've only been back at it since the beginning of the summer. Day game in the suburbs is also brutal, but I've actually been making contacts - I find approaching basically effortless in that context. My blowout ratio is probably 90%, but I have no trouble getting up the confidence to move in when I'm one on one.

It will be interesting to see what pans out first. It's very frustrating knowing that I could probably be getting five times the lays that I have if I could just get these girls "out on a sit". But it's been very hard lately motivating them to take that initial leap with me, offline or on.

3) I met a few gems who had really pleasant personalities through online dating, but parts of Boston appear to be jam packed with obnoxious SWPL feminists in the "5-7" range whom I can barely tolerate to listen to for 5 minutes, much less imagine putting my cock into. I do need suggestions for better venues.

And good grief those floppy "hipster hats" make everyone look like herbs.

[General Stalin]

Boston sucks. People there aren't very nice/approachable as opposed to other cities (It's a New England thing). It's the biggest college down in the country (there are around 40 colleges in and around Boston) so most people there are super liberal-minded student types who are socially inept and get offended and "creeped out" by everything. Girls I've date there have told me they hate getting approached when out at night because they aren't there to meet people they are their just to be out and have drinks with their friends.

[XPQ22]

(12-06-2015 05:25 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Boston sucks. People there aren't very nice/approachable as opposed to other cities (It's a New England thing). It's the biggest college down in the country (there are around 40 colleges in and around Boston) so most people there are super liberal-minded student types who are socially inept and get offended and "creeped out" by everything. Girls I've date there have told me they hate getting approached when out at night because they aren't there to meet people they are their just to be out and have drinks with their friends.

i've read some of the Boston threads and it seems people either love it or hate it here. Some say that they've never had an easier time pulling in Boston except in NYC, and some say essentially what you're saying. So I'll have to do a little more recon.

It may just have been a poor choice of venue on my part - the bars in Cambridge gave me the vibe you're describing. The women definitely didn't seem to be very interested in meeting guys, the ones who weren't with dudes seemed to just want to stand around in gaggles of five or six girls and pose and be seen.

And the bars after midnight are cramped with nowhere to move so you constantly have to be saying "oh sorry dude" "oh excuse me", hot and stuffy, and smell bad.

I'm actually liking the feel of Providence a lot more. There's less to do nightlife-wise, but the city is a bit more rough around the edges, working class, and the women seem more approachable. One female bartender actually chatted with me and offered me her Facebook (not that I took it) which wouldn't happen in a million years in Boston.

Only trouble is that the couple times I have been there, the ratios have seemed even worse. But I'll take poor ratios where guys have no game over places with better ratios where nobody wants to be approached.

[el mechanico]

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People there aren't very nice/approachable as opposed to other cities (It's a New England thing)

Depends on how you talk and project your energy. It's the exact opposite.

OP you need to think outside the box and pull tizail nearr to your house at whatever places you have available.

[General Stalin]

(12-06-2015 05:36 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 05:25 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Boston sucks. People there aren't very nice/approachable as opposed to other cities (It's a New England thing). It's the biggest college down in the country (there are around 40 colleges in and around Boston) so most people there are super liberal-minded student types who are socially inept and get offended and "creeped out" by everything. Girls I've date there have told me they hate getting approached when out at night because they aren't there to meet people they are their just to be out and have drinks with their friends.

i've read some of the Boston threads and it seems people either love it or hate it here. Some say that they've never had an easier time pulling in Boston except in NYC, and some say essentially what you're saying. So I'll have to do a little more recon.

It may just have been a poor choice of venue on my part - the bars in Cambridge gave me the vibe you're describing. The women definitely didn't seem to be very interested in meeting guys, the ones who weren't with dudes seemed to just want to stand around in gaggles of five or six girls and pose and be seen.

And the bars after midnight are cramped with nowhere to move so you constantly have to be saying "oh sorry dude" "oh excuse me", hot and stuffy, and smell bad.

I'm actually liking the feel of Providence a lot more. There's less to do nightlife-wise, but the city is a bit more rough around the edges, working class, and the women seem more approachable. One female bartender actually chatted with me and offered me her Facebook (not that I took it) which wouldn't happen in a million years in Boston.

Only trouble is that the couple times I have been there, the ratios have seemed even worse. But I'll take poor ratios where guys have no game over places with better ratios where nobody wants to be approached.

I grew up in Greater Boston and am in Denver currently and I like it far more. People are nicer, more cute girls, more approachable, etc.

Cambridge is full of the super liberal SJW types as that's where a lot of the colleges are. Allston is full of hipsters and alternative types with huge egos, but if you're a hipster type you may do very well there hitting up some live music venues or hipster bars. You might be better off going to Boston proper and hitting up downtown there, or maybe Somerville but there's not a lot there.

Boston may start becoming a better place to game though as it has been getting popular the past couple of years with all of the media focus, image of having lot of interesting culture, and shitloads of movies being filmed there. It's been becoming a city where people move to simply because they want to, not just because it has lots of schools and huge tech and medical industries.

[XPQ22]

So I'm reviving this thread of mine.

Jury is still out for me on Boston after the past two months.

I probably went out solo on average about twice a week since I started the thread. Results for me: basically about a half-dozen flakey phone numbers, a couple makeouts in a bar or nightclub with a girl I never heard from again.

The results were all in Allston, Somerville, or Providence. Pretty much nothing ever happened in Cambridge except waste time and money, which is a shame because there's lots of fun stuff to do in Cambridge if the crowd was different, and it's where the highest concentration of night game venues is.

Somerville is okay, still very feminist but maybe not quite as much as Cambridge, but there's just not much in the way of nightlife. Online dating sites are absolutely jammed to the bursting with women from Somerville and Cambridge. Theory: if some borough or neighborhood has an enormous population of women using online dating, it probably sucks for night game.

I haven't explored much in Boston proper. It doesn't seem very much like "my crowd" and is just really expensive overall. Mass transit here sucks, and you can spend $40 on parking in downtown Boston for 4 hours, no problem. In Cambridge at least you can usually find parking for free.

Providence is quite small and has limited options for night game, but I think is worth exploring more. A decent amount of college girls, and the women seem less feminist, generally more approachable, more slutty and less uptight and careerist. Very cheap in all respects compared to Boston, easy parking, easy access by road. I've had some very promising interactions here, even the female bartenders seem to genuinely like me and don't give me cunt attitude or fake pleasantries like in Boston. If I'm going anywhere, I think I'm going to make my stand there for the rest of the season.

Basic problem is the same as it is reading about Toronto and D.C. - lack of women making themselves at least somewhat accessible to an approach. The majority of women you see are either on dates, in small mixed-sex groups, or with at least two or three other girls. Also, the cities only come alive on the weekends. Everything shuts down on weekday nights - a venue that might have absolutely packed them in on Friday and Saturday will have maybe ten people in it on a weekday night. It's like that across the board...too many college students who don't go out on school nights, and the population just isn't large enough to support all-week partying like many other cities.

If I run down a checklist like this with a random girl I see at a Boston bar or club, something almost always breaks somewhere:

http://www.rooshv.com/7-signs-you-should...ach-a-girl

Also, the bars are absolutely tiny! Everyone in the bar has a front row seat to your approach. Once you've run maybe two approaches max you have to bounce, because it feels like everyone in the fucking place is monitoring you to see if you're one of those guys who talks to girls he doesn't know. Need more space.

And failed approaches in Cambridge/Somerville will absolutely get you abusive attitude fairly regularly. These interactions often leave me in a sour mood for the rest of the night.



I've become a social smoker because most of my "best" results actually don't even happen in the bar, it's with girls who have been drinking who are out on the street smoking or chatting, sometimes alone or with one friend. The bar is superfluous! I feel like it would be more productive sometimes to just hang out on the street and do "daygame" style approaches, but at night. I don't even need to yell over loud music. Then "insta-date" them to another bar!

I've honestly pulled numbers and gotten interest from passing girls hanging out near my car streetside in the city having a cigarette or checking my phone, easier it seems than actually in the bars themselves.

I'm going to cut back and re-evaluate in the summer, I think. Winter in NE is a tough time...I think many girls like to be locked down during the cold months and aren't actively looking. Things may pick up once it gets warmer.

I hear NYC is going to allow public drinking in nightlife areas pretty soon. Seems like there might be fuck-all purpose to actually being inside a bar to approach.

[aeroektar]

I moved out of Boston last spring and while I lived there I didnt go out to run night game once, if I went to a bar or club it was either with a mixed group so the bang was secured or with the boys with the sole purpose of getting wasted and partying. If you meet a good looking chick on a night out thats cool, but personally, I dont think this is a good city for night game.

As you described Boston nightlife, its not appealing in terms of going out and meeting eager single chicks. For one its a sausage fest, most of the girls you see are nasty, tatted up, obnoxious cunts, lots of lesbos and SJW types. Yes there are attractive, pleasant, eager girls worth pursuing, but night game is the worst way to try to meet them.

Boston is cool if you go out during the day or night to actually do something though. Theres always stuff going on with art, music, etc.

Your biggest issue is you live 40 minutes outside the city, your logistics are shit. I actually think the T is one of Bostons best aspects, its widely used, makes it easy to get to all the parts of the city you'd care to see, efficient by american transit standards, often ranked one of the best in the country, but if you live outside the city its benefits don't really apply. I used to live on the red line which made the whole city accessible for me, and made me accessible to a lot of girls. Just riding around on trains here is a good way to meet cute girls, and the stations, especially the ones along the green line near the big schools, are often LOADED with young cute chicks during the day.

Day game is good here. Boston is compact and very pedestrian friendly, there are girls everywhere in the day time. Theres a lot of coffee shops, bookstores, etc. and people here love that shit, its SWPL central, in the summer theres farmers markets, festivals and all kind of stuff happening during the day. I used to work in Allston, Brighton, Dorchester, and Fenway throughout the week and I'd see lots of cute girls out during the day. They're much more pleasant, they'll smile back at you, they'll flirt and sometimes open you. Use elderly openers and take it from there, pretty simple. The dudes here, especially the college age ones, are fucking chodes, you will meet girls out during the day who want to find a guy to lay a good fucking on them on a regular basis, if your smooth, have style, and can be that guy, you'll get bangs.

I dont know your situation, but if you really want to be here, get out of the suburbs as fast as you can, there are still parts of the city where you can find affordable (generally speaking) apartment.

[Delta]

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Attempting to get back into night game in the Boston/Providence area, after spending the summer having some success with online dating.

It has been brutal.

I've spent the past couple weeks hitting up various bars and clubs in the Boston/Providence area. I don't know whether it's because it's the holidays or what, but the ratios have been absolutely atrocious. 2:1 male to female at best and even worse if you include the number of chicks who roll up at the places with their boyfriend in tow.

I was at a bar in Cambridge tonight. It was packed, but again the ratios did not seem to be good. There were tons of dudes with their girlfriends, and while there appeared to be some single women, they all seemed to be in "gaggles" of bitches four or five strong taking selfies and completely locked-in and unapproachable. I did my best to open one or two of these groups with predictably dismal results. And it wasn't just me. I watched two or three other dudes attempt to roll up on these selfie-shooting girls and watched them get shut down just the same.

The way you phrase this seems to imply you expect/remember it to be different? Your description of nightlife is the way I remember it always being, if you change 2:1 to 3 or 4:1. Literally, I'd cream in my pants if I ever saw only a 2:1 ratio in my area. That's way better than usual (and way better than dating sites as well).

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I've become a social smoker because most of my "best" results actually don't even happen in the bar, it's with girls who have been drinking who are out on the street smoking or chatting, sometimes alone or with one friend. The bar is superfluous! I feel like it would be more productive sometimes to just hang out on the street and do "daygame" style approaches, but at night. I don't even need to yell over loud music. Then "insta-date" them to another bar!

I've honestly pulled numbers and gotten interest from passing girls hanging out near my car streetside in the city having a cigarette or checking my phone, easier it seems than actually in the bars themselves.

Yeah, conversations tend to go better when you don't have to shout yourself silly over eardrum-shattering dance music. Bars are a complete waste of time in my opinion.

[XPQ22]

Experience that seems to jive with mine. The trouble with night game in Boston is that there are so many great bars in places like Cambridge, and so many women around, and the ratios seem so good in theory that you think it just MUST be a good place for night game. I keep falling into the same trap - it's like the glitzy slot machine that never pays out but promises the world, and you feel like you just have to keep pulling the handle.

[General Stalin]

Hate to say I told ya so, but I did.

It's just a small clique-y city. Online is likely your best bet there. Hit up OKC and tinder. It's a city full of non-party colleges and careerists. Not to say pussy can't be had and there aren't single girls who go out ready to meet someone, but it's just nowhere near as lively as a place like Miami, NYC, LA, Las Vegas, Etc. It is a city with fun things to do and places to go so meeting and banging women should sort of be a secondary to that.

[XPQ22]

(03-04-2016 04:47 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Hate to say I told ya so, but I did.

It's just a small clique-y city. Online is likely your best bet there. Hit up OKC and tinder. It's a city full of non-party colleges and careerists. Not to say pussy can't be had and there aren't single girls who go out ready to meet someone, but it's just nowhere near as lively as a place like Miami, NYC, LA, Las Vegas, Etc. It is a city with fun things to do and places to go so meeting and banging women should sort of be a secondary to that.

Yep. From my observations, in Allston/Cambridge/Somerville beta game rules the day. I think in one of the posts on the blog there's an article about how to tell if the problem is one's game or one's venue selection. "If other people are getting laid and you're not, it's your game, if nobody is getting laid, it's the venue."

I look around at the crowd I see in the venues here and think "Nobody here is getting laid, except maybe the guys there with their girlfriend. And even then I'm not sure."

The few times I've actually made a decent connection with someone the level of cockblocking is enormous. Just getting a girl to sit still and talk with a stranger for ten minutes requires running a gauntlet of male and female friends, orbiters, bartenders, and random people doing their best to cockblock you every step of the way. Seeing one cute girl being chatted up by four guys at once is not uncommon. It is orbiter central; my guess is that the way romantic relationships happen with girls here is they just drift around from orbiter to orbiter - it's all social circle or online.

In some ways it's not only indifferent to guys like us, but actively hostile. We stick out like a sore thumb compared to all the hipster herbs, and the streets are stuffed full of feminists on high alert for anyone not wearing skinny jeans with and a too-tight suitjacket who might fit the "PUA" or "player" profile.

A few months ago I saw a drunk girl in Somerville just (literally) kicking the shit out of her boyfriend on the street. There's just got to be tons of guys in controlling, high-conflict relationships like that there. Abundance mentality - impossible to exist.

[Travesty]

Anytime a city has guys coming in and saying:

"Getting laid should be an afterthought."

"You need to get creative."

"Social circle rules."

It is just a bad place to get laid compared to other cities. No way around it. It is an optimism I don't see the point of in this day and age. There is an opportunity cost lost here.

If getting laid is a priority this is a time in history where it is easily possible to move to where you don't need to put up with these statements.

You said yourself that you are tall and in shape, and that is nothing special. So are all the girls tall, slender, and in shape? Are they funny and warm? It sounds like a bunch of 6's with egos. In the world being tall and in shape with a decent sense of humor puts you in the top 10%. That is how bad the market is in most U.S. cities for that to be nothing special.

[OregonToSoCal]

@XPQ22 Through the months there's been a recurring theme to your posts essentially stating the same thing over and over again. Gaming in New England, or at least where you are sucks. While I don't doubt your reports about what's happening on the ground where you are there comes a time where you either accept reality for what it is or you make a change. Other members have encouraged you to move closer to the city from the suburbs, move to a different area of the country etc. and your response has always been quickly dismissed as "impossible to do right now".

Please understand I'm not trying to pick on you but rather point out you're stuck in a self fulfilling paralysis by analysis funk. Like Travesty alluded to there are other better places to live in that would dramatically improve your odds.

[XPQ22]

(03-10-2016 02:18 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

@XPQ22 Through the months there's been a recurring theme to your posts essentially stating the same thing over and over again. Gaming in New England, or at least where you are sucks. While I don't doubt your reports about what's happening on the ground where you are there comes a time where you either accept reality for what it is or you make a change. Other members have encouraged you to move closer to the city from the suburbs, move to a different area of the country etc. and your response has always been quickly dismissed as "impossible to do right now".

Please understand I'm not trying to pick on you but rather point out you're stuck in a self fulfilling paralysis by analysis funk. Like Travesty alluded to there are other better places to live in that would dramatically improve your odds.

Yes, you're absolutely right.

I'm stuck for the moment because of family obligations - basically the one thing I care about here. Hoping this will change by the end of summer at the latest.

If anyone wants to PM me I'd be happy to give details about the particulars, but I don't feel comfortable doing it on the forum.

Until then I'm going to put up and shut up. This will be my last post on the New England subject. I'm going to just focus my efforts with online game until the situation changes, and work on the other shit I can control.

It mostly comes out of raw frustration at a situation when you know it's not you, it's just circumstance. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to vent, at least!

[XPQ22]

I'll add that there are definitely some bright spots. I manged to "insta-date" my first girl in the city the other night - approached and chatted her up on the street at around 10 PM, asked her if she wanted to grab a drink, pulled her right into a bar nearby and gave it my best. It didn't work out in the end, she went cold on me after about a half hour and started talking to her friends that showed up and ignoring me, so I ended up bouncing. My error: I didn't know the area very well, and I let her select the venue where she was a reg and knew everyone. These are practical issues that actually have solutions and can probably be addressed, instead of just complaining.

But I felt great satisfaction that I actually pushed forward and did it.

And also that I had the balls to walk out and not hang around wasting time, hoping for something that wasn't going to happen.

And from online game I'm definitely getting more action than I ever have in my life. It's just not exactly with the girls I wish it was with.

[Deepdiver]

There is an old saying in Boston that up north we are cold on the outside and warm on the inside... Boston is less transient like Vegas or LA. Women are largely getting their educations or recent Grads - 300,000+ College Students in Metro Boston. Schools tend to be insular and then the cost of living after school they tend to live with roommates as many as 4 in a given Apt or Townhouse. Women will often sleep on two separate beds Dorm style to save on rent and utilities.

Boston is currently booming and there is a big difference in Boston vs Suburb logistics. I have a biz cell and burner cell app with 617 Boston Area codes for that reason.

Bars, Clubs, Pubs Music Dancing and Alcohol - they all know the score - you have to dance dance dance to get in their pants so massive bitch shields up in locations where there is street walkin in clientele. Many also glued to social media when out in a selfies gaggle.

I rarely go out to a club or bar unless it is an upscale Restaurant or Hotel Bar for pre game mingles and mixers. I now only go out Jack Nicholson black tie - White crisp open collar dress shirt tucked in a Black 2 piece suit, black belt, black dress shoes and sox. When I wear a Tux people keep asking me to get their waiter or if I am a waiter or the MaitreD or in the Mafia! LOL.

Looking casual and successful but mysterious at a Benefit event or wine festival or local Phantom Gourmet foodie event will get you a surprising number of IOIs and no vacuous stares from hairdresser types in camel toe leggings or tight knit super short man candy dresses. Basically, sorts the blue collar and nerd hipsters from the more elegant targets on interest. No single Baby Momma Drama for me thank you.

I find black tie or benefit events $50 and up entry ticket pre-selects out the riff raff from the upscale or experienced men with game where the women are in gowns or little black cocktail dresses and heels they are in sexualized feminie woman mode and much much more receptive to an approach - and instead of bitch shields women are instead flashing IOIs like a lighthouse asking provider qualifier questions - what do you do etc - I keep it short and cryptic. No long brag about me and flip the script to questions about them and socialize or even dance a bit and then say lets go have some champagne and whisk them off to a close by well stocked and ice bucketed hotel room for Champagne or Grey Goose drinks and seduction - logistics are everything with upscale Boston banglers - the more smooth you venue transition the more smooth their gown or little black dress drops to the floor. Off faster than a prom dress as the saying goes - they did not get all dressed up to be a wall flower.

Point is these are rarely model quality 9/10 women otherwise they would be working NYC - so as 6/7/8 they have to try and get an education to earn an independent living and not need to depend on a man. As soon as they achieve that state their hypergamy hamster goes into overdrive and they go on the alpha provider hunt. These are the types of ladies who respond well to the answer "I just have not found the right girl/woman to settle down and raise a family with yet..." when they ask why you are single. That statement has gotten me steady prime tang to bang for 2 to 3 years in Boston until they put me on the infamous Cosmo 90 days to commit clock.

Key to Boston is the right event venue, successful upscale casual (no tie) look, DHV and great logistics.