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If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?
#76

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-02-2016 12:54 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

Rubio wins, worst case scenario the country is overrun with immigrants. There are worse ways for a country to die.

I was just thinking the other day about how much that would suck, but on the other hand it would be good to see an influx of foreign men who aren't manginas and who don't kiss ass and take shit from women unlike American guys.

I remember one time a few years ago I got into a verbal fight with this one chick at my job and this Mexican dude I worked with had my back the whole time. If that is going to be the future of our country, I'm okay with it. My American brothers would've sold me out for standing up for myself.
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#77

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Paul had been my choice since his filibuster of the drone program. Now that he's suspended his campaign, Cruz is my second choice and Trump my third. I refuse to vote for anyone else outside those three.

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#78

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-03-2016 06:00 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

Quote: (02-02-2016 12:54 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

Rubio wins, worst case scenario the country is overrun with immigrants. There are worse ways for a country to die.

I was just thinking the other day about how much that would suck, but on the other hand it would be good to see an influx of foreign men who aren't manginas and who don't kiss ass and take shit from women unlike American guys.

I remember one time a few years ago I got into a verbal fight with this one chick at my job and this Mexican dude I worked with had my back the whole time. If that is going to be the future of our country, I'm okay with it. My American brothers would've sold me out for standing up for myself.

I bet the Romans thought the German Barbarian Tribes were pretty tough and would make good citizens/allies as well.
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#79

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-05-2016 02:51 PM)Indy Wrote:  

Paul had been my choice since his filibuster of the drone program. Now that he's suspended his campaign, Cruz is my second choice and Trump my third. I refuse to vote for anyone else outside those three.

Why vote for a confirmed liar like Cruz? Dude has zero credibility. If gets in office he'll be no different than Shillary.

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#80

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Trump is the only one I believe could turn things around.

Other than that:

I'd vote for Rand Paul, he's had some positions that make me think he'd be a bit better than a democrat.

I'd also vote for Ben Carson, he doesn't seem to have what it takes to be President in terms of having a solid plan and knowledge of politics, but I get the impression he hasn't made a deal with the devil.

The rest, no vote or vote democrat. I'd prefer the death of America to happen under the left than the (fake as fuck) "right."
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#81

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Agree with Samsea's above post about Cruz lying.

The man speaks with a forked tounge. It has already been established that he is owned by world bankers, who are behind all the evil shit we rail against on the forum.

He's doing the standard politician schtick of saying things he doesn't believe and making promises he won't keep to get elected.

His campaign is a ruse to steal anti-establishment votes from Trump. The establishment loves the guy, they own him for one, and it seems like he surely has skeletons in his closet (maybe literally) that can be used as blackmail material.

I put as much credence in Cruz's words as I do in the media's hate campaign against Roosh and his websites.
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#82

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-02-2016 04:10 AM)rainy Wrote:  

I've spent about 3 months in Bulgaria over the last 3-4 years.

Trump losing and either Hillary or Sanders winning skyrockets the chances of me moving to Bulgaria.

10% tax rate and double tax treaty helps in that, as do the beautiful women.

A Bulgaria Data Sheet (Sophia and Varna) would be greatly appreciated as I may have been laboring under a misconception that Bulgaria must follow onerous Brussels Taxation and Immigration regimes dictated to them as well as the flawed Euro - unlike Poland which maintained their monetary sovereignty with the Zloty.

Your on the ground perspective of Bulgaria would be appreciated by many here at RVF I am certain.
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#83

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-05-2016 03:14 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  

Quote: (02-03-2016 06:00 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

Quote: (02-02-2016 12:54 PM)rw95 Wrote:  

Rubio wins, worst case scenario the country is overrun with immigrants. There are worse ways for a country to die.

I was just thinking the other day about how much that would suck, but on the other hand it would be good to see an influx of foreign men who aren't manginas and who don't kiss ass and take shit from women unlike American guys.

I remember one time a few years ago I got into a verbal fight with this one chick at my job and this Mexican dude I worked with had my back the whole time. If that is going to be the future of our country, I'm okay with it. My American brothers would've sold me out for standing up for myself.

I bet the Romans thought the German Barbarian Tribes were pretty tough and would make good citizens/allies as well.

Well even if the invasion in the U.S from South of the Border keeps happening and it sucked I'll at least know that it was the American government...consisting of Americans, who caused it.

I know the enemy...and he is us.
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#84

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-05-2016 03:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 02:51 PM)Indy Wrote:  

Paul had been my choice since his filibuster of the drone program. Now that he's suspended his campaign, Cruz is my second choice and Trump my third. I refuse to vote for anyone else outside those three.

Why vote for a confirmed liar like Cruz? Dude has zero credibility. If gets in office he'll be no different than Shillary.

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I'm just going to vote for the smartest and best liar out of the bunch. I have reservations about Cruz -- thus the reason Rand was my first choice. But, Cruz is a conservative with a vote record to prove it; hated by the establishment; more feared/hated by the left than even Trump; has campaigned against intervention in Syria (joining Paul and Trump) and smarter than anyone else on that debate stage.

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Club for Growth says its congressional scorecard “rewards free-market champions and exposes big-government, tax-and-spend politicians.” Cruz scored 92 percent in 2014 and 100 percent in 2013 on the Club for Growth scorecard, ranking eighth in 2014 and first in 2013 among senators. By comparison, Paul scored 95 percent and 97 percent, respectively, in the last two years — ranking fifth in 2014 and third in 2013.

Cruz scored 95 percent on the National Taxpayers Union’s 2013 scorecard, ranking the Texas senator third out of 100 senators. That was even slightly higher than Paul, who scored 94 percent and ranked sixth that year. Both received an “A.” (NTU has no 2014 scorecard on its website.)

Cruz did even better in the American Conservative Union ratings. Cruz got a perfect score in 2014 and 2013 and has a lifetime rating of 100 percent over his first two years in the Senate. Rand Paul scored 96 percent in both years and has a lifetime score of 98 percent over four years.

By these measures, Cruz — who helped engineer a government shutdown in 2013 in a failed effort to defund the Affordable Care Act — has a conservative voting record, contrary to what the ad says. Whether it is sufficiently conservative or too conservative we leave for others to decide.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/cruzs-c...edentials/

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Voting records don't lie.

Trump has campaigned on nationalism and against political-correctness -- which is admirable in of itself, but not enough of a platform for me. We're going to "Make America Great Again." Okay. How exactly? "We're going to fight the Chinese. We're going to bring jobs back. We're going to stop refugees. We're going to repeal Obamacare." Okay. Great. How about some specifics?

There are absurd amounts of evidence demonstrating Trump left-of-center on just about every issue social conservatives take seriously and now he's magically switched his position just in time for a presidential run? Convenient!?

Cruz just like Hillary? How exactly is that? When considering they're at polar-ends on just about every issue. Well, except maybe banks and globalism. If those two issues were my utmost concern, sure, I'd vote Trump over Cruz.

Our nations' future would look brighter with Cruz or Trump. I guess it's like debating green/blue M&M's. I might like one a little more than the other, but both taste pretty damn good.

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#85

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

This is a shameful cuck thread
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#86

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-09-2016 08:49 PM)Indy Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 03:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2016 02:51 PM)Indy Wrote:  

Paul had been my choice since his filibuster of the drone program. Now that he's suspended his campaign, Cruz is my second choice and Trump my third. I refuse to vote for anyone else outside those three.

Why vote for a confirmed liar like Cruz? Dude has zero credibility. If gets in office he'll be no different than Shillary.

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I'm just going to vote for the smartest and best liar out of the bunch. I have reservations about Cruz -- thus the reason Rand was my first choice. But, Cruz is a conservative with a vote record to prove it; hated by the establishment; more feared/hated by the left than even Trump; has campaigned against intervention in Syria (joining Paul and Trump) and smarter than anyone else on that debate stage.

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Club for Growth says its congressional scorecard “rewards free-market champions and exposes big-government, tax-and-spend politicians.” Cruz scored 92 percent in 2014 and 100 percent in 2013 on the Club for Growth scorecard, ranking eighth in 2014 and first in 2013 among senators. By comparison, Paul scored 95 percent and 97 percent, respectively, in the last two years — ranking fifth in 2014 and third in 2013.

Cruz scored 95 percent on the National Taxpayers Union’s 2013 scorecard, ranking the Texas senator third out of 100 senators. That was even slightly higher than Paul, who scored 94 percent and ranked sixth that year. Both received an “A.” (NTU has no 2014 scorecard on its website.)

Cruz did even better in the American Conservative Union ratings. Cruz got a perfect score in 2014 and 2013 and has a lifetime rating of 100 percent over his first two years in the Senate. Rand Paul scored 96 percent in both years and has a lifetime score of 98 percent over four years.

By these measures, Cruz — who helped engineer a government shutdown in 2013 in a failed effort to defund the Affordable Care Act — has a conservative voting record, contrary to what the ad says. Whether it is sufficiently conservative or too conservative we leave for others to decide.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/cruzs-c...edentials/

All of this is nonsense.

Club of Growth is a corporate shill organization that pretends supporting Big corporations exploit slave labor in China, India, Vietnam, and Mexico is a conservative principle.

There's nothing conservative about Club for Growth or anything else.

Cruz supported Amnesty. Cruz supported Obamacare when it first came out.

The dude is a bought and paid shill, having taken money from Jewman Sachs among others. His blind loyalty to Israel is disturbing.

I would consider voting for Bernie Sanders over Cruz, and I'm probably the most hardcore conservative guy (I hate labels though) on this board.

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#87

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Cruz's wife is turning me off. Saying her husband's campaign "Show's Us the Face of God." That's some delusional shit; and I'm saying that as a Christian.

Quote: (02-10-2016 10:41 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

I would consider voting for Bernie Sanders over Cruz, and I'm probably the most hardcore conservative guy (I hate labels though) on this board.

I'm also about as conservative as it gets but how can you say you'd support Sanders over Cruz?

The next president will likely be appointing between 2-4 judges to the SCOTUS. A Sanders presidency would absolutely guarantee a liberal majority in the court for decades and make June 2015 look like amateur hour.

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#88

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Watching CNN now and George W. Bush is campaigning for Jeb in South Carolina.

Jeb's campaign has just been placed in hospice care.
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#89

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

My chief desire out of any candidate is to get someone who will put the most money in my pocket via a better economy and lower taxes while putting native citizens first in ALL other matters. There are many secondary issues that matter to me a great deal as well but as a native citizen in his late 20s/early 30s, it been one shit sandwich after another pretty much across the board.

Let's take a trip starting from adulthood (let's say around post-9/11) for the average guy in my age range:

Late teens/early 20s:

Increased college tuition cost and expenses made it an era where going to college was a questionable venture from a cost/benefit perspective; a first in modern history. College up until this point was promise relentlessly as the ticket to middle class. Today and for sometime now, it's been a ticket to indenture servitude for most. The writing was on the wall back during the teenage years if you had some foresight but it wasn't generally accepted that college was a bad deal at that point. If you had any foresight to know that college wasn't a good deal for most, your options were:

1. Go into the military during a time of war; a questionable stupid war ran by republicans who seemed more concerned with lining the pockets of defense contractors as oppose to giving the military the resources it needed to accomplish a nearly impossible and poorly planned mission.

2. Go into a trade - which you probably weren't even made aware of during your HS years because no one advocated for them. Furthermore if you did contemplate going down that route, you had to compete with an exponentially growing illegal immigrant pool taking up opportunities and suppressing wages in lower-end trades. You don't speak Spanish and see the illegal day labors in your sanctuary city/county doing the majority of trade labor. You see how they live and how an employer abuses them and can't see any foreseeable path in making it work.

This is all the while wages at the lower-end across the board aren't growing at all to anything resembling livable income even at full-time status and healthcare costs are exploding. God help you if you are young single male with no support structure and get injured in some capacity. You are fucked in every way possible if that happens.

Early/Mid 20s:

Somehow, someway.... you found a path to making some progress in life. It's very modest and bare bones living but it's better than many. Maybe you got a full ride to a university, maybe you joined the military, or maybe you have spent a few years in a trade honing your craft.

.... THEN the economy crashes in 2008; thanks in large part to reckless big banks enabled by both establishment democrats (repealing Glass-Steagall) and republicans (not keeping a lid on lending standards during the 2000s) among many other reasons.

Demand for tradesman plummets.

College graduates aren't getting any offers while many are drowning in debt

People you know, friends and relatives, are underwater with their homes. Some lose them entirely. Many people you know move back home out of necessity. Not just for themselves but to help keep their relatives/friends from ending up on the street.

And establishment republicans and democrats bail out the big money failures. Big banks on Wall Street and big poorly run companies like GM. You think to yourself: where were they when I needed help?

Illegal immigration subsides a bit due to lack of economic demand but now these illegals are having kids by the boatloads and are demanding government services via schooling, housing, medical care, and food. You watch both establishment democrats and to an lesser extent, establishment republicans try to court this growing class of invaders at your expense. You are labeled a uncaring racist scumbag for standing up for your own native citizens.

You see Obama get elected and hope he will be a different class of politician. He turns out to be full of shit; selling the male gender out to appease militant feminist lies and non-sense. He mentions the female wage gap in a State of the Union address and encourages his Justice Department to enable witchhunts on college campuses against men over dubious sexual assault allegations. You see a rise in militant feminism from both the establishment political space and mainstream media. You are confused as hell since the past years economically speaking have not been remotely kind to you. In fact, they have been brutal and requiring significant sacrifice.

Being a man and just breathing in the wrong direction can now destroy whatever fragile and hard-fought career and savings you have established despite having total garbage to work with for years. You are one false accusation away from being financially crippled or imprisoned and nobody anywhere seems to give a shit.

Late 20s/Late 30s:

The economy is a limp-dick, mostly generating shitty service level jobs. Obamacare fixed a few problems but created 100 new ones. Illegal immigration still goes unchecked. Neither political party seems to gives a shit about either addressing the real economic or cultural issues affecting you as a hard working man.

But despite enormous factors working against you for around a decade or so, both economical and cultural, you finally start to find some footing beyond bare bones living. Significant sacrifices are still needed but there is a path to success now that seems realistically achievable despite the onslaught of bullshit.

However, the crop of 2016 Presidential candidates are total disasters and can hurt you even further economically and/or culturally. Your blood boils. The wear and tear of around a decade of being dealt shit sandwiches constantly and being force to eat more is simply too much. Time to put an end to this bullshit; it's time to get serious about an exit strategy.

Sanders has a few decent points about big banks and wall street corruption but he wants to give "free" college to people who don't need or deserve it in era where there is no real demand for more generic college graduates. He also wants to raise taxes on you just when you might start making some decent money finally after a decade of fighting through a thousands walls of bullshit. He wants to take your hard earned money and give it to people who don't deserve it or even need it. Fuck him.

Hillary is corrupt as hell, incompetent, and reminds you of many affirmative action employees you have dealt with. Fuck up and move up comes to mind.

Both Sanders and Hillary will both push militant feminism, amnesty and welfare for illegal immigrants, hurt the economy, and raise your taxes. Sure, if you are disabled tranny dyke feminist faggot with neon green hair, then a Hillary/Sanders Presidency might be an improvement. Otherwise, you would be an idiot to vote for either one as a red pill man even if you are sympathetic to a couple of their viewpoints.

In the GOP field, you have a bunch of cucks who all pretty much want to give amnesty of some form (officially or unofficially) to illegal immigrants while also selling out regular Americans to big business. You might get a stupid war out of them too. Sounds like GW Bush all over again. You haven't forgotten what things were like back then and what they led to. You think about the guy you saw in a hospital who looked like a walking corpse after a IED blast burned off most of his skin. Never again; not for a stupid and unnecessary war.

About the only thing you can count on from a establishment GOP candidate is maybe lower taxes; lower taxes that will probably only benefit really rich people since the middle class job base will be completely decimated by further crony capitalism. Maybe a tad of lip-service that slows down militant feminism and political correctness. Maybe. Overall, the cuck GOP is better than the democrat options but not by much. The cuck GOP is no friend to the red pill hard working man. Not remotely today nor has it ever been.

You are disillusioned, distraught, and simply tired of nothing really improving and things slowly degrading across all fronts. But, you see a ray of light in the distance. It emanates from Trump Tower.

Bottom Line:

If you are a red pill hard working man like the aforementioned who for a decade plus has already experienced the negative ramifications of establishment politics: There is only one choice. One option. And that is Donald J. Trump.

He has the game, frame, wealth, intelligence, and willpower to unfuck the giant current mess that is the USA and is the only man capable of countering all the bullshit. Every other candidate is the the same ol' shit sandwich we have been getting for decades.

So get in faggots: it's time to Make America Great Again.

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#90

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

The plan behind Cruz is simple. He is pulling an epic power-play. He is gunning straight for the top of the republican elites, skipping the ass kissing darlings and the next-in-line heirs. He is doing so very cunningly. Here's a simple breakdown:

Cucks: Support the establishment
Cruz: Hijack the establishment
Trump: Destroy the establishment
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#91

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

With Jeb out now, Paul long-gone and Cruz looking like he could be gone soon (and Bernie neck and neck with Hillary) it would be really interesting to do another poll and see where things end up. I'd guess Rubio would at least double and probably triple or quadruple as it sure seems like he is the one guy who could come to the front and be the mainstream Republican's champion at least once the other challengers are gone. Rubio has a lot of backing and the establishment Republicans will taut his ability to "get the Hispanic vote" and being more "electable" ad infinitum henceforth, you can bet on that. They are really going to start amping up the BS "racism" angle versus Trump as well.

(I'm saying this as a guy who supports Trump now with all his flaws but who would pull the trigger for Rubio every day and twice on Sundays versus either Bernie or Hillary).

Just wondering, does Rubio beat Hillary?

As much as I hate to say it I think Rubio might end up being more "electable" than Trump in some ways. Could a Rubio victory combined with a very unhappy bunch of "moderate" Trump Republicans and Democrats (working class folk tired of the outsourcing and mass immgration/competition in the labor force + all the politically correct bullshit) actually end up helping our cause a bit more or is it kind of "all or nothing" at this point re going "all in" with Trump?

After seeing how the UKIP were marginalized in the UK mostly due to their weird voting methodology, and how the French right were screwed out of their big election gains by a combination of the far left and "center right" (who are in actuality "center left" but France is so far gone to the far they are called "right wing") it's hard to see how much would really change if Rubio won - just another quasi-cuckservative for the most part who while certainly better than the nightmare Democratic candidates would still just be more of the same old corporatism/statism and neocon /Israel Lobby warmongering of the past 30-40 years. However even Rubio might stop all this Feminist/SJW nonsense or at least stem the tide.

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#92

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Rubio might be plenty of not so completely unpalatable things, but one thing that he's not is the "person who will stop all this Feminist/SJW nonsense". He's the loathsome cuck who has originally created and supported the ridiculous campus rape bills, for god's sake.

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#93

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

All I know is it has to be Republican. Paul was my first choice and I had been prepared to choose between Trump or Cruz.

Given recent events we need a candidate that can beat back the political correctness problem. I think that Trump has the kind of charaisma that leaders like Andrew Jackson, Teddy Rosevelt and Validmir Putin have. It has been while since we have had a president with that kind of personality. As much as Reagan was adored I don't think even he had that kind of personality ( I could be wrong, I wasn't alive in the 1980s).

As far as Cruz is concerned he could play the race card in the final election and I would be ok with that. Better yet a Cruz /Rubio ticket would be good.

In general I feel like the candidates we have this time around are much better than the last election.
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#94

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Cruz is Israel over everything, including America. Why would you want a President that loves another country more than yours? You might as well just move to Germany.

Rubio has sucked more dick than Pamela Anderson, so counting on him doing anything manly is out of the question.
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#95

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-21-2016 02:43 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  

All I know is it has to be Republican. Paul was my first choice and I had been prepared to choose between Trump or Cruz.

Given recent events we need a candidate that can beat back the political correctness problem. I think that Trump has the kind of charaisma that leaders like Andrew Jackson, Teddy Rosevelt and Validmir Putin have. It has been while since we have had a president with that kind of personality. As much as Reagan was adored I don't think even he had that kind of personality ( I could be wrong, I wasn't alive in the 1980s).

As far as Cruz is concerned he could play the race card in the final election and I would be ok with that. Better yet a Cruz /Rubio ticket would be good.

In general I feel like the candidates we have this time around are much better than the last election.

Reagan was definitely charismatic:











He even had the "Reagan Democrats", aka lefties that switched their party to R just to vote for him.

And I respectfully disagree with your last sentence. In 2012, we had such a diverse field. Romney, Cain, and Paul were all great choices.

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#96

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-21-2016 02:43 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  

And I respectfully disagree with your last sentence. In 2012, we had such a diverse field. Romney, Cain, and Paul were all great choices.


I agree that Romney or Paul were better options than Jeb, Cruz or Rubio.


But Cain?


That guy was a joke from day one.

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#97

If Trump is not the nominee, who is your second choice?

Quote: (02-22-2016 01:15 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2016 02:43 PM)metalfan20 Wrote:  

And I respectfully disagree with your last sentence. In 2012, we had such a diverse field. Romney, Cain, and Paul were all great choices.


I agree that Romney or Paul were better options than Jeb, Cruz or Rubio.


But Cain?


That guy was a joke from day one.

Really? I loved his 9-9-9 plan, and he seemed like a chill ass businessman, kind of like a black and more mellow Trump.

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