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What's the beef with Rollo Tomassi?

What's the beef with Rollo Tomassi?

To be honest, I do not currently know much about anything that Rollo has done outside of writing the Rational Male series and I do not know anything about Christian McQueen so I cannot speak on those things with any authority. However, having read all 3 of the books in his Rational Male series (the first one is the most helpful in my opinion) as well as all of Roosh's game books (including the newest one, Game) and a couple of his others such as Free Speech Is Not Free and Compliment and Cuddle (which I thoroughly enjoyed), I can say that there is definitely a significant difference in style.

As others have already mentioned, Roosh's style is much more humorous and, frankly, entertaining. When I read one of Roosh's books, I'm at the end before I realize it and I enjoy getting there. When I read one of Rollo's books however, I have to put a lot more effort into staying focused and making it to the end. The articles he posts on his website are even more difficult to get through without succumbing to boredom and I have only been able to read a few of them in their entirety. I would say that reading something by Roosh is like reading a comedy novel or funny history book whereas reading something by Rollo is like an academic treatise or college textbook. Roosh also comes across as being more of a can-do optimist with a sense of humor and a plan to make things happen whereas Rollo (again, I am judging both only on the books at the moment) comes across as more of a pessimistic, humorless automaton. Rollo's writing appears as though it were meant for peer review to be published in an obscure scientific journal that only 12 other academics will ever read whereas Roosh's appears as though it were meant to be a sort of Zombie Survival Guide to game and have you chuckling all the way to your harem in a doomed city surrounded and beset on all sides by maniacs who years ago forgot why they began their siege or what they hoped to accomplish by doing so.

Most if not all of the ideas articulated in Rollo's writings are sound and enlightening and I have taken a lot from them. One good thing about him is that he goes into explicit and even possibly excessive detail when explaining every concept that he introduces. I suspect that the reason he did this is the same reason that his writing style in the Rational Male series is so emotionless and devoid of humor: because his target demographic is men, probably married or on the road to becoming so, who are, at the moment of their introduction to his work, in the throws of emotional overload whether it be due to a recent divorce/breakup, consideration of proposing to their LTR, sudden abrupt discovery of the American/Anglo family court system, or something else and not thinking as lucidly or coherently as they might be under less chaotic circumstances. Men in such situations, especially blue pill men, can be prone to thinking in erratic and catastrophic ways and behave recklessly as a result of not thinking things through clearly and calmly. Such a man might take humor too literally, miss the point, or react adversely in some other unproductive and potentially self-destructive way because they interpret a humorous voice as being just one more shrieking external emotional input amidst a swarm of others which are all attempting to get a rise out of him and, in the chaos, confound and deceive him into going somewhere that he would not go if he were entirely lucid.

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Roosh, on the other hand, has a writing style that is more friendly and less clinical. Reading Roosh’s work after reading Rollo’s is like someone teaching you how to open and manage a bank account properly after another person just finished explaining to you why your mismanagement of your last one caused you to go into debt and why the banking system and figures of authority in your life had all but set you up for that by feeding you false information since you emerged from the damp darkness of your mother’s womb.

Rollo and Roosh also come across very differently in terms of how someone reading their books, such as myself, might imagine them being in person. Roosh comes across as someone I would like to hang out and talk with, even about things entirely unrelated to game, casually whereas Rollo comes across as more like a professor and, like in the relationship between professor and student, I can respect his academic accomplishments and clarity of thought but there will always be a kind of separation between us which keeps him from being entirely relatable or comfortably approachable. Roosh also comes across to me as someone who is still in the metaphorical trenches and laughing as he charges the enemy line whereas Rollo feels more like an older gentleman from another era who may have done great things in his earlier years and acquired great wisdom through doing so but no longer possesses the energy of his youth and to whom the novelties and pleasures of that time no longer bring joy. This is just an assessment of how I feel reading the books that Rollo and Roosh have written. I have not met either of them in real life.

Rollo also feels, in his writings, much more like a philosophical materialist who is resigned to biological determinism and nihilism. In Rollo’s writings, there is generally no talk of how things should be, only of how they are for better or worse and there is a sense of passive resignation which pervades throughout his books and articles. By contrast, in Roosh’s writings, I get the impression that he is a man who, while lucid and accepting of reality as it is so that he may work as effectively as possible within it and reveling in the hilarious absurdity of it all, also appears to harbor a subtle sense of melancholy based on an understanding that this is not the way things ought to be and mourn for the passing of a more balanced and enlightened world that none of us ever knew and which may have never even existed anywhere but in our own imaginations in which he and many of us might have been honored husbands, respected fathers, and pillars of our communities whereas we are now so reviled by the powers that be that we must conceal our true beliefs in public and hide our identities when expressing them in private, using burner emails to register our accounts on anonymous internet forums, lest we be doxed and have our lives and those of the people we care about be sabotaged further by some septum ring-wearing phytosexual dingus from Portland who believes that gender is purely a social construct but males are born toxic, women are equally capable but alimony is defensible, and that morality is entirely subjective but men are, for reasons unknown and without explanation, morally obligated by some imperceptible higher cosmic order to, sheepishly and without resistance, accept their position within a system which increasingly disadvantages and endangers them based on factors outside of their control and which is administered by ideological zealots who long ago abandoned anything that might have resembled reason or sanity in exchange for blind devotion to unfathomably wealthy and cloistered globalist psychopaths who are fully aware of what they are doing, could not possibly care less about the well-being or future of their fellow citizens if they tried, and who identify with them to about the same degree that an average man identifies with the cow whose flesh became the burger that he is grilling behind his pickup truck in the parking lot of a football stadium that he cannot afford a decent seat in.

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Lastly, Roosh is a man whose transformation over time can be seen through his writings and online footprint, both of which stretch back well over a decade and both of which cover personal experiences of his which go back even further, whereas Rollo, to my knowledge, only began writing outside of the SoSuave forum after he had already been married for years and reached middle age. Many details of Roosh's life and experience are known and explained in detail by him personally whereas comparatively little is clear about the life of Rollo prior to his becoming a married father and author of the Rational Male. Roosh feels more like a colleague or fellow traveler whereas Rollo feels more like a wise but distant former shopkeeper from a town I have never been to who has seen and experienced much throughout his life there but written about little of it and spoken of less. Roosh is a man who seems to do everything he can to undermine and mock the enemies of masculinity and appears to revel in his outlaw status (he is legally banned from at least one country - the UK - that I am aware of at this time) whereas Rollo is a man who seems to do what he can to come across as impartial and reserved as possible while taking pains to avoid drawing too much negative attention to himself. This, again, is only my impression from having read the books that both Roosh and Rollo have written as well as having watched a number of Youtube videos featuring them and reading several articles written by them. I will reiterate that I have not met either of them in person though I would be happy to do so someday in the future.

As for whatever Rollo has done in a personal or professional capacity since completing his Rational Male book series, I cannot say much as I have no comprehensive knowledge of his activities and know him only through the books. Judging only by what little I have heard and understood so far, it seems that Rollo has been for some time attempting to distance and distinguish himself from Roosh and other known figures who are at this time out of favor with the mainstream and more prone to attack by its champions such as ANTIFA and the Oprah network. This, I would guess, is a calculated and cynical political move to establish and protect his personal brand while garnering favor with the powers that be and was possibly (again, this is only my own speculation) influenced by his wife and daughters as Rollo is a man surrounded in his home by females and living in New York which is a state infamous for its draconian divorce and family laws so I could understand if he feels that he has to walk on eggshells to avoid being torn apart by the females who at least for now see him as worth keeping around but who could just as easily turn on him like starving dogs and be both encouraged and empowered by the state to do so.

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As I said though, I do not know much if anything about whatever interpersonal conflicts exist between Rollo, Roosh, Heartiste, and/or anybody else for the most part and cannot pretend to peer into their minds and know what truly motivates them or make claims of such things on their behalf. To get an analysis of their activities in the real and/or online world, it would be best to ask the opinion of someone who has met one or more of them and knows more about he situation than I do.
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