[Kona]

(04-11-2016 11:28 PM)Last Parade Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 07:57 PM)Kona Wrote:  

After 18 years in jail and dealing with tons of court shit, this dumbass just let's the cops walk around his property?

Guilty or not, this guy deserves to be in jail for being so stupid.

To be fair, it wasn't him - he was off at the cottage or whatever, it was another Avery family member (cousin? uncle?) who gave them permission.

Then again, even if he was there, he would've probably still let them in; the naivety of saying he's got nothing to hide and he just wants to be a good guy, etc.

Like you said, a parade of dumbasses. Like that kid's priority was going back to school because there was a test, after confessing to a gruesome double murder. And he missed Wrestlemania.

I think he did it. I think he somehow had something to do with the first one also.

Those cops are all just too stupid to pull off framing him. That's it.

And the kids defense is literally that he is stupid. They have no problem saying it.

I still can't believe that town exists, and I almost want to go to it.

Aloha!

[Tigre]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/us/mak...index.html

Quote:

The conviction of Brendan Dassey, a Wisconsin man who appeared in the documentary "Making a Murderer," has been overturned by a federal judge in Milwaukee, according to court documents obtained by CNN.

Dassey was convicted in 2007 in the murder of photographer Teresa Halbach. In overturning the conviction, the judge cited the manner in which a confession was obtained from Dassey, who according to court documents has a low IQ.

Prosecutors have 90 days to bring Dassey, now 26, to trial again or he will be released.

[Dr. Howard]

(08-12-2016 05:38 PM)Tigre Wrote:  

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/us/mak...index.html

Quote:

The conviction of Brendan Dassey, a Wisconsin man who appeared in the documentary "Making a Murderer," has been overturned by a federal judge in Milwaukee, according to court documents obtained by CNN.

Dassey was convicted in 2007 in the murder of photographer Teresa Halbach. In overturning the conviction, the judge cited the manner in which a confession was obtained from Dassey, who according to court documents has a low IQ.

Prosecutors have 90 days to bring Dassey, now 26, to trial again or he will be released.

I skimmed through the 90 page judgement. I think Dassey will get off the hook, but there are some extra items in that judgement that make Steven Avery seem a lot more connected to the murder than the series made him out to be.

[renotime]

Dassey is a free man. If I were him I'd leave the whole god damn state and sue. But then again I'm not legitimately retarded.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/brendan-...201917656/

[Cr33pin]

Out today

[renotime]

Apparently they left a lot of stuff out in the first documentary, like how Avery molested Brendan Dassey. They had phone records of Dassey telling his mom about it.

I think really to get to the bottom of this you'd have to delve deep and find other sources. The filmmakers were too biased.

[Steve McQueen]

Finished season 2 in a couple of days, really compelling viewing.

My take:

Brendan Dassey got railroaded, I hope his lawyers can take it up the chain to Trump for clemency if thats possible.

Steven Avery is innocent, I had my doubts but Kathleen Zelner is one tough lady, she really leaves no stone unturned. Made no sense him murdering someone out of the blue when he was in line to become a multi millionaire, too perfect for the state.

Locking these two up was an injustice to all involved, I hope some day soon the real killer is caught and brought to justice, along with the crooked cops that set them two guys up.

[Kaizen]

I tried to avoid this series for some reason, but finally devoured season 1 last week and the new season within 2 days of the release.

One thing I'm not clear on...who is the main suspect

bobby dassey/step dad or that shady af ex boyfriend

??

[Richard Turpin]

I'm only a couple of episodes into Season 2 and so far it's as addictive as the first. I didn't think they'd possibly be able to tease out a second series but it seems there is more than enough material here to go around.

One of my strongest early impressions is that his new High-T, autistic female lawyer is way more formidable than the duo representing him in the first series.

[Kona]

I've been watching season 2.

There is one convincing fact I've noticed: These people are the stupidest white people in history. All of them. I see that out-of-staters are involved, maybe this crap will work out.

I see one little clip where the original prosecutor called a fire "A big ol' whopper" which is far from a scientific term

Is that just a stupid people part of the country? Can one of you IQ experts tell us if the settlers in the area are of stupid genetics are what the hell?

Edit: Sweet Jesus. I'm watching this part where Avery is giving an interview from jail. He claims someone went into his house and stole some blood off of his sink or ZINC as he calls it. First, he says "well, of course, I didn't clean it up" because he's some damn neanderthal that just leaves blood everywhere. Then he goes to investigate some odd brake lights on his property. Well after doing that he goes to sleep. Guess what he says "no I didn't go into the bathroom I peed outside. Naturally, he doesn't wash his hands. The next day the blood is gone.

Maybe its best that this filthy son of a bitch is off the streets.

Aloha!

[griffinmill]

(10-22-2018 10:52 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I've been watching season 2.

There is one convincing fact I've noticed: These people are the stupidest white people in history. All of them. I see that out-of-staters are involved, maybe this crap will work out.

I see one little clip where the original prosecutor called a fire "A big ol' whopper" which is far from a scientific term

Is that just a stupid people part of the country? Can one of you IQ experts tell us if the settlers in the area are of stupid genetics are what the hell?

Edit: Sweet Jesus. I'm watching this part where Avery is giving an interview from jail. He claims someone went into his house and stole some blood off of his sink or ZINC as he calls it. First, he says "well, of course, I didn't clean it up" because he's some damn neanderthal that just leaves blood everywhere. Then he goes to investigate some odd brake lights on his property. Well after doing that he goes to sleep. Guess what he says "no I didn't go into the bathroom I peed outside. Naturally, he doesn't wash his hands. The next day the blood is gone.

Maybe its best that this filthy son of a bitch is off the streets.

Aloha!

Talk about stupid; did you see Brendan Dassey's original defender from S1? He looked like Rick Moranis. Jesus, I could've done a better job with zero legal training. He smirked his way through every appearance. He also basically let his client (who was a teenager and retarded) walk into a police interview, unsupervised.

[Richard Turpin]

I'm a few more episodes in and.....

....VERY MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD.....

..... the programme has introduced Avery's new girlfriend! Younger, blonder, fitter! He's 55, short, fat as fuck and may or may not be a murdering rapist. This begs the question; is 'Wrongly Convicted Game' a viable option nowadays? I mean, they seem to get a lot of letters and pictures from nutty women. Just a thought, if any of us hit on hard times.

Prison Game aside, I'm still not feeling that Netflix are giving us anything like the whole story yet again. Halbach's family and friends all seem solidly convinced of Avery and Dassey's guilt. As do a lot of the residents of Manitowoc. Like, what does the local community know about the family that the documentary makers aren't telling us?

[Cr33pin]

[DarkTriad]

(02-15-2016 02:18 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 10:32 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  

The body language and behaviour of Avery after the murder suggests he didn't commit this crime. There were other players in this case who behaved much more suspiciously. I'm not suggesting Halbach's brother and roommate committed the murder, but their shifty behaviour was more suspect than anybody in the Avery family. Avery was honest and open. Everything he said checked out - for example, telling his family that he was on the phone to his girlfriend at critical times throughout the day, and that information being confirmed with telephone records.

If we are to believe Avery committed this crime then we are two believe two things at once: he's a criminal mastermind who was able to clean the entirety of the inside of his home of the victim's blood, DNA, hair and fibre after subjecting her to a brutal and violent ordeal - while simultaneously being such a incompetent that he put the key to her car on a desk inside his trailer.

When the verdict was read out Avery's expression was of a man whose soul had been destroyed, not of a murderer who realised justice had caught up with him.

How spots of his blood got inside her car is a mystery.

I was thinking the cops used a syringe to extract the blood from the tampered test-tube and planted it there. The forensics to determine if the blood came from a test-tube or not seemed weak to me.

The makers of the documentary are a little too invested in making controversy vs. accuracy sometimes.

Of course there is a syringe mark on the test tube, that's how they get the blood in there to begin with. Lab tech testified to it, saying it's there because he put in there, standard procedure.

[Emancipator]

(10-21-2018 11:27 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

I tried to avoid this series for some reason, but finally devoured season 1 last week and the new season within 2 days of the release.

Normally I avoid documentaries like this too, don't like getting too worked up from "injustices", but same deal here, binged hard, definitely feel for the parents, they're both getting old with deteriorating health and their son has been in prison(s) a long time, hopefully they both make it to see if he ever gets out.

[Cr33pin]