[BadgerHut]

(12-27-2015 04:49 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

Napoleon, who at that time was the most powerful man on Mother Earth, had a Oneitis for Josephine, and he never ever really got over his femme fatale, even after re-marrying. He wrote her hundreds of letters expressing his extreme love for her. Bitch in the meanwhile was getting nailed by some officer back in Paris.

You gotta have a real set of stones to bang Napoleon's girl.

[OneEyedMonk]

(12-27-2015 10:47 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:49 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

Napoleon, who at that time was the most powerful man on Mother Earth, had a Oneitis for Josephine, and he never ever really got over his femme fatale, even after re-marrying. He wrote her hundreds of letters expressing his extreme love for her. Bitch in the meanwhile was getting nailed by some officer back in Paris.

You gotta have a real set of stones to bang Napoleon's girl.

The carousel stops for no man, as we know by now.

Her side-piece was a hussar lieutenant called Hippolyte Charles, known for his fine dressing and practical joking who was nine years younger than her. Bitch wrote to a friend in a letter: "You will be mad about him, his face is so beautiful! I think that no-one before him has ever known how to tie a cravat."

The financier Antoine Hamelin, who knew Charles fairly well, thought him "a little shrimp of a man whose only advantage was his good figure", and said he possessed "the elegance of a wigmaker’s boy".

Red pill lessons from 200 years ago. Napoleon wrote a total of around 30000 letters, many to Josephine stating shit such that he would kill himself if he would lose her, and very often asking why she was not writing to him, given that she knew how happy that was making him. Well, she was busy taking cock.

When the most powerful man on Earth learned of her fucking around while he was killing people in Egypt, he was devastated. He took a mistress in Egypt ("fuck a dozen to get over your oneitis") to address this romantic problem, but forgave her and took the back (I guess due to RVF not being operational+educational back then), for another 10 years of marital bliss until he kicked her to the curb for not popping out any heirs.

His second wife Marie Louise cheated on him as well, opening her legs for an Austrian general whom Napoleon had defeated on the battlefield. "Revenge is sweet" the good general surely thought

[Vincent Chase]

(12-27-2015 11:38 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 10:47 AM)BadgerHut Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:49 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

Napoleon, who at that time was the most powerful man on Mother Earth, had a Oneitis for Josephine, and he never ever really got over his femme fatale, even after re-marrying. He wrote her hundreds of letters expressing his extreme love for her. Bitch in the meanwhile was getting nailed by some officer back in Paris.

You gotta have a real set of stones to bang Napoleon's girl.

Red pill lessons from 200 years ago. Napoleon wrote a total of around 30000 letters, many to Josephine stating shit such that he would kill himself if he would lose her, and very often asking why she was not writing to him, given that she knew how happy that was making him. Well, she was busy taking cock.

Women haven't changed.

[HankMoody]

If any of you are reading this and wondering "Can't I become a Game Jedi Master and make it work through epic feats of frame and masculinity?" the answer is no. It's like asking whether you can have a healthy relationship with heroin.

What you like about this relationship is the addition - the intense feelings she brings out in you during the highs. How she feeds your ego and desires. It's not "her" you actually like. You're addicted to a fantasy.

There's no book, program, or game that can fix someone who is mentally ill. Sorry, there's just not.

[XXL]

The only way I know to handle BPD girl is to be very good at intense drama game. In other words being able to push her buttons like a pro and stay emotionally distant at the same time.

The main difference between this and normal game is how you control the fire.

With "normal" game you control the fire like a fireman, in case of emergency you put it out, bring the peace and watch out for it. With drama game you go all out, in case of emergency you throw gas into the fire, let it blow up, make the girl burn in it, put her out later, then heal her, then love her, make her feel secure again, etc.

The song Love the way you lie part 2 is real.

[trainwreck]

(12-27-2015 04:49 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

It is gonna hit you, and will impact you, some of us more, some less. But in any case you need to ride it out, and that is where some "techniques" such as no contact, fucking a dozen other chicks, etc come into play, and may help. May. Different courses for different horses, but one thing I noticed universally is that denial of your addiction is the biggie that blocks the 5 stages of the grieving process playing out, and your eventual escape.

This. It's an addiction for the hormones that get released when you finally gained her approval. If you write down rationally what happened to you, you'll realize that it made no logical sense to pursue her and that it was just a drug, an addiction, that made you go crazy.

I'm still having issues handling my past relationship with a girl that ticks pretty much most of the boxes above. Past of banging all her social circle, rape claims, food disorder, depression. Would start crying during sex (while contracting her pussy, omg that was so hot) telling me how much she loves me and a few weeks later telling me how much she hated me. Be insanely afraid of me leaving her. Be into really rough sex). Things progressed super fast -We went from banging each other, to spending a month together on vacation to living together in less than 2 months. I always thought it was love, but it was more of a passionate thing with her hiding her own self for the first few months. I've posted about this many many times before and about all the crazy shit I endured but basically, admitting that you're simply addicted to her will get you further than banging 50 other girls. I must be at around 30 girls since her and I don't see myself getting any better. I still see myself comparing her to other girls, however I notice that it's getting less every day that passes by. It's been 1.5 years now and I feel that I finally would be in a position to get back into a relationship if I could find a girl I'd be attracted to and that ticked all the boxes of being a potential future wifey.

Also agreed on the fact that even tho no other girl will ever make you feel like this unless she's borderline crazy, it will also be healthier for you in the long run. I had such anxiety and stress after our 2nd breakup that I started losing hair on my scalp and had bald patches on my beard. Crazy shit.

[HankMoody]

(12-27-2015 04:30 PM)XXL Wrote:  

The only way I know to handle BPD girl is to be very good at intense drama game. In other words being able to push her buttons like a pro and stay emotionally distant at the same time.

The main difference between this and normal game is how you control the fire.

With "normal" game you control the fire like a fireman, in case of emergency you put it out, bring the peace and watch out for it. With drama game you go all out, in case of emergency you throw gas into the fire, let it blow up, make the girl burn in it, put her out later, then heal her, then love her, make her feel secure again, etc.

The song Love the way you lie part 2 is real.

Eh, depending on the BPD, expect the cops to be at your place quite a bit with false domestic violence and rape allegations.

[HankMoody]

(12-27-2015 05:03 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:49 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

It is gonna hit you, and will impact you, some of us more, some less. But in any case you need to ride it out, and that is where some "techniques" such as no contact, fucking a dozen other chicks, etc come into play, and may help. May. Different courses for different horses, but one thing I noticed universally is that denial of your addiction is the biggie that blocks the 5 stages of the grieving process playing out, and your eventual escape.

This. It's an addiction for the hormones that get released when you finally gained her approval. If you write down rationally what happened to you, you'll realize that it made no logical sense to pursue her and that it was just a drug, an addiction, that made you go crazy.

I'm still having issues handling my past relationship with a girl that ticks pretty much most of the boxes above. Past of banging all her social circle, rape claims, food disorder, depression. Would start crying during sex (while contracting her pussy, omg that was so hot) telling me how much she loves me and a few weeks later telling me how much she hated me. Be insanely afraid of me leaving her. Be into really rough sex). Things progressed super fast -We went from banging each other, to spending a month together on vacation to living together in less than 2 months. I always thought it was love, but it was more of a passionate thing with her hiding her own self for the first few months. I've posted about this many many times before and about all the crazy shit I endured but basically, admitting that you're simply addicted to her will get you further than banging 50 other girls. I must be at around 30 girls since her and I don't see myself getting any better. I still see myself comparing her to other girls, however I notice that it's getting less every day that passes by. It's been 1.5 years now and I feel that I finally would be in a position to get back into a relationship if I could find a girl I'd be attracted to and that ticked all the boxes of being a potential future wifey.

Also agreed on the fact that even tho no other girl will ever make you feel like this unless she's borderline crazy, it will also be healthier for you in the long run. I had such anxiety and stress after our 2nd breakup that I started losing hair on my scalp and had bald patches on my beard. Crazy shit.

Great post, brother. It's been interesting to read about everyone else who has had a similar experience. I remember the constant anxiety with the BPD - who was she seeing? Are we together? Is this ever going to shake out?

Candidly, the relationship with my BPD ex left such a bad taste in my mouth that I just can't do the whole "dating" thing for a long period of time, let alone contemplate marriage. It's not that I compare them to her, it's just hard for me to be all that into it, in light of me enjoying my time doing other things like reading, writing, working on my business, etc. The BPD was the only woman I put ahead of myself, which in hindsight was unhealthy. That was the only time I'd ever felt such passion that all the other things I'm focused on didn't matter as much. In contrast, I spent most of my day working on new and interesting cases because they interest more than the girls I'm currently banging.

That said, I do enjoy my existence as the consummate playboy...

[thoughtgypsy]

Run away. I learned the hard way:
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Sometimes I look back on that thread and feel an intense



I'm laughing at my old self right now. Full backstory here (skip to below the divider):
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Let my fuckups be a warning to you guys.

[XPQ22]

(12-27-2015 04:30 PM)XXL Wrote:  

The only way I know to handle BPD girl is to be very good at intense drama game. In other words being able to push her buttons like a pro and stay emotionally distant at the same time.

Oh, the "red pill" or "game aware" man might be able to manage her for a while feeling like he was coming out on top.

For a while.

The problem is, relationships don't exist in a vacuum. And a common tactic that BPD women use after a relationship goes south is the "smear campaign" - they will attempt to use every dirty tactic in the book to make your life miserable, even if you go complete "no contact" with them.

They'll tell anyone who will listen outrageous stories about what a fucked-up person YOU are. They go above and beyond the call of duty in this regard, up to and including stalking and false rape accusations. The last relationship I had with a woman who had the disorder was like that, she told many of my friends all sorts of bullshit that never happened. And kept trying to get them to contact me for her and rope them into the drama; even though they're understanding nobody is a saint, and her continued attempts to triangulate them with me and her irritated them and strained our relationships.

Fortunately, I am selective about the company I keep, and I warned them ahead of time what was likely going to happen. They believed me, not her.

But not everyone in the world is so understanding; most people don't even know personality disorders exist, and when an attractive young woman is involved, men and women alike will crawl out of the woodwork to defend even the most fucked-up behavior. They know just when to turn on the waterworks and pull out the "boo hoo poor little me" card.

Are you ready to have a hate squad of white knights smashing down your door after your nutso BPD ex-girlfriend posts a bunch of shit to Facebook or Tumblr that never happened? Even if it's someone you're only with briefly and then move 2000 miles away from, they will find ways and use all available technologies to fuck with you. Believe me, I know.

Are you willing to risk your personal and professional life over trying to game one of these chicks? Not to mention the loss of your self-respect at having to use their own tactics to game them and stoop to their level?

The juice definitely ain't worth the squeeze.

In summary:

[Neo]

There's no way to change these women, and imo the situation is actually worse. These same women exist in the workplace. They start causing drama and will go after both the men and women.

Think most guys are aware? Think again. We're probably in the top 5% of awareness just by being members of this forum. Most guys are completely clueless.

I've seen managers completely misread certain women, hire them and after 6 months complain that they're an absolute nightmare to work with. I could have told them within 5 minutes the girl was going to be trouble, it's usually obvious to me. I use a political strategy of befriending the regular women who naturally become enemies with the BPD/sociopathic girls and just allow them to cannibalize themselves.

[Ingocnito]

(12-27-2015 05:06 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:30 PM)XXL Wrote:  

The only way I know to handle BPD girl is to be very good at intense drama game. In other words being able to push her buttons like a pro and stay emotionally distant at the same time.

The main difference between this and normal game is how you control the fire.

With "normal" game you control the fire like a fireman, in case of emergency you put it out, bring the peace and watch out for it. With drama game you go all out, in case of emergency you throw gas into the fire, let it blow up, make the girl burn in it, put her out later, then heal her, then love her, make her feel secure again, etc.

The song Love the way you lie part 2 is real.

Eh, depending on the BPD, expect the cops to be at your place quite a bit with false domestic violence and rape allegations.

Cops because in the BPD slut ridden long-game hypergamy strategy, NO ground can be allowed to be gained upon their progress against you. Succubi do not regurgitate.

They will use the cops quicker than any other type of bitch to maintain their footing. And even if your ass gets thrown in jail, they'll seriously try to rekindle shit saying they didn't mean for you to go to jail.

[Aurini]

I recommend that you watch Kevin Smith's Chasing Amy; that poor chump still thinks she was the one who got away, not a borderline who decided to toy with him for a while.

Keep that in mind while watching: Amy is a hot young girl, getting plenty of attention from other people, who is only casually toying with the protagonist of the film. She's not even fucking with him seriously! In his case, he only loses his business, his best friend, and his home to her machinations. He doesn't get murdered, or go to prison, or anything else more serious.

I also recorded a video on this topic years ago (I'm mildly embarrassed by the production quality these days, and I've been thinking about remaking it, Lucas style).

[Windom Earle]

Some of these points have already been touched on (examples are from my experience), but just to ram home the extremes when dealing with a BPD chick...

1. Extreme paranoia/irrational thoughts

E.g. she inspects an unfamiliar room for recording devices, for no apparent reason.

2. Extreme mystery

E.g. as close and as deep as your connection feels with her, your intuition tells you that you're only getting the tip of the ice-berg and she is concealing deep/dark secrets.

3. Extreme jealousy

E.g. she locates a foreign hair at your place and immediately assumes the worst (well, in my current situation that would be correct, but not back then).

4. Extreme possessiveness

E.g. you are hers and hers only. However you can't ever suggest the opposite to her, as she is never truly yours.

5. Extreme fear of abandonment

E.g. she is afraid that you will end the relationship without warning, or has a feeling of dread that a big argument between the two of you will force the issue (which is actually quite prophetic due to how things usually end with a BPD chick - at least the first series of breakups before the real "end").

I just had a flashback to our first break-up actually, which I instigated. We were talking things through and she revealed to me that she was evil, and that I should run far away from her. At the time I thought she was just being incredibly hard on herself, not being literal. We got back together that day and I later found out that she fucked her ex-bf that night, which she justified as her checking to see if she still had feelings for him and to make sure she was making the right decision to be with me.

6. Extreme sexuality/sensuality

E.g. she is far and away the best fuck of your life, which is why it's next to impossible to resist her despite all the bad shit.

7. Extreme feelings

E.g. she will profess her love for you in the very early stages. You feel a strong connection too, and hamster this away as being true love.

8. Extreme dependence

E.g. in the early stages at least, you become dependent upon each other. If you happen to be apart for any length of time, very real emotional and physical withdrawal symptoms emerge (she threw up the first night we were apart after 2 months of living together).

9. Extreme/Grandiose plans

E.g. suggestion of buying a house together or some other elaborate plans for the future.

10. Extreme mood-swings

E.g. bringing up something important about your life in conversation, that doesn't involve her will cause her to withdraw or go into a rage.

11. Extreme black and white thinking

E.g. there is never any grey, at least in the moment. Things may change however, when she morphs her attitude/thinking depending on the situation.

12. (Prone to) Extreme driving

E.g. she's an aggressive driver, taking unnecessary risks on the road.

[thoughtgypsy]

Met a model off dateinasia and she already ticks most of the boxes for BPD.

On the first day of talking with her, she said her parents would love me and she can already tell she likes me. On the second day, she told her parents about me and told me she's all mine if I want. I made it clear I'm not into LDRs but something might happen if I come there. It should be said at this stage I genuinely enjoyed talking with her. She's very intelligent and charming, and has the personality many BPD chicks have that gets you sucked in. She's also from an upper middle class family so she had the rare qualities I normally don't find in most Filipinas. On the third day, she is telling me she loves me and asking my values on marriage/kids. Screeeech, stop the record. Major red flag.

The thing that made it obvious is how quickly and intensely she pushes for codependence. She says things about how special you are, wants to talk all the time, and in general probes for weaknesses and things you care about that she can leverage. After day two she was trying to pressure me into letting her call herself my girlfriend. After I said no, she came up with these BS stories about "Oh my coworker asked me out and I had to tell him I'm with you already, hope you dont mind." It's a way of making you feel guilty if you don't reciprocate, and make it seem like if you don't hurry up and do what she wants, you'll lose her.

I'm sure she plays this game with lots of guys. I bet some of you in the Philippines probably banged her already.

[XPQ22]

(12-28-2015 04:07 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

.The thing that made it obvious is how quickly and intensely she pushes for codependence. She says things about how special you are, wants to talk all the time, and in general probes for weaknesses and things you care about that she can leverage. After day two she was trying to pressure me into letting her call herself my girlfriend. After I said no, she came up with these BS stories about "Oh my coworker asked me out and I had to tell him I'm with you already, hope you dont mind." It's a way of making you feel guilty if you don't reciprocate, and make it seem like if you don't hurry up and do what she wants, you'll lose her.

I'm sure she plays this game with lots of guys. I bet some of you in the Philippines probably banged her already.

Idealization -> devaluation -> discard. She's sets 'em up to knock 'em down, like a rack of candlepins (a bowling variation that's popular here in New England).

As surely as night follows day.

The sad thing with this disorder is that they're desperately terrified of abandonment, but through their actions they engineer the precise result they fear.

Surely God is laughing at us.

[HankMoody]

(12-28-2015 05:05 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 04:07 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

.The thing that made it obvious is how quickly and intensely she pushes for codependence. She says things about how special you are, wants to talk all the time, and in general probes for weaknesses and things you care about that she can leverage. After day two she was trying to pressure me into letting her call herself my girlfriend. After I said no, she came up with these BS stories about "Oh my coworker asked me out and I had to tell him I'm with you already, hope you dont mind." It's a way of making you feel guilty if you don't reciprocate, and make it seem like if you don't hurry up and do what she wants, you'll lose her.

I'm sure she plays this game with lots of guys. I bet some of you in the Philippines probably banged her already.

Idealization -> devaluation -> discard. She's sets 'em up to knock 'em down, like a rack of candlepins (a bowling variation that's popular here in New England).

As surely as night follows day.

The sad thing with this disorder is that they're desperately terrified of abandonment, but through their actions they engineer the precise result they fear.

Surely God is laughing at us.

God hates us all.

[thoughtgypsy]

(12-28-2015 05:05 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

Idealization -> devaluation -> discard. She's sets 'em up to knock 'em down, like a rack of candlepins (a bowling variation that's popular here in New England).

As surely as night follows day.

The sad thing with this disorder is that they're desperately terrified of abandonment, but through their actions they engineer the precise result they fear.

Surely God is laughing at us.

Exactly. Here is how the rest of the script would play out if I complied:

1) Agree to BF/GF title. Now she will start demanding that I take down my dating profiles. She'll start asking about introducing her to my family, get me in closer with her friends, and create a situation where I would feel bad about ending it with her. She'll want to use up all of my remaining free time by talking to me, or having me message her whenever I go somewhere. This way I have almost no time or options of pursuing other women. I'll be forced to turn to her for social interactions and grow reliant on her.

2) Once we become codependent, she'll start pushing for marriage, children, or some other permanent trap. She'll start saying how she needs to know this is forever and if I really love her I'll want to make it official. All to make it impossible to escape from her.

A BPD's strategy is to lure you in deeper and deeper while eliminating your connection to others. Simply put, it's an elaborate trap.

[Vincent Chase]

I had a BPD relationship. She's still in my head and find it hard to get her out despite the relationship ending about a year ago. I've banged dozens of women since and nothing was as good as the high points of the relationship with her. I've been trying to find a substitute ever since when really I shouldn't be looking for the sort.

1) Great sex, the best I've ever had for a girl in a relationship. We would walk around during the day and she tells me the things she would love to do with me later at night with a smile on her face.
2) Wrote me letters of love, went to the beach and wrote our names down on the wall next to it. We travelled together. She made me feel like I'm in some sort of fairytale when I'm with her.
3) Call me on facetime nude/out of the shower and send me nudes pics when away from her.
4) Become obsessed with what I'm doing every second of the day when I'm not with her. Continuously thinking I'm cheating on her and being absolutely pissed if I don't answer the phone or read her messages even for an hour.
5) Complement me, take my advice, make you feel like a king.

We separated as I left the country. Three months after breakup she phoned me crying that she doesn't want to live anymore and said she's old and useless. She apparently stopped eating and ended up in hospital for a few days. She's been fine ever since most likely finding a new boyfriend, good luck to him.

[thoughtgypsy]

(12-28-2015 06:54 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

I had a BPD relationship. She's still in my head and find it hard to get her out despite the relationship ending about a year ago. I've banged dozens of women since and nothing was as good as the high points of the relationship with her. I've been trying to find a substitute ever since when really I shouldn't be looking for the sort.

1) Great sex, the best I've ever had for a girl in a relationship. We would walk around during the day and she tells me the things she would love to do with me later at night with a smile on her face.
2) Wrote me letters of love, went to the beach and wrote our names down on the wall next to it. We travelled together. She made me feel like I'm in some sort of fairytale when I'm with her.
3) Call me on facetime nude/out of the shower and send me nudes pics when away from her.
4) Become obsessed with what I'm doing every second of the day when I'm not with her. Continuously thinking I'm cheating on her and being absolutely pissed if I don't answer the phone or read her messages even for an hour.
5) Complement me, take my advice, make you feel like a king.

We separated as I left the country. Three months after breakup she phoned me crying that she doesn't want to live anymore and said she's old and useless. She apparently stopped eating and ended up in hospital for a few days. She's been fine ever since most likely finding a new boyfriend, good luck to him.

I know how you feel. It's those highs, those moments of absolute charm and sense of being appreciated on a metaphysical level that will make you ignore the blatant red flags that would normally be front and center.

Regarding 4), I think that's a case of normalcy bias. As soon as you have your first big fight, or she has doubts about you dropping everything for her, she'll start shopping around for your replacement. Because she's doing it, she automatically assumes you are too.

[AlphaRN]

No, just no. Not ever.

These girls would be locked away or given an ice-pick 50 years ago. Stay away.

[OGNorCal707]

I really doubt that a BPD chick can remain loyal, faith, and monogamous in a relationship. They just thrive too much on male attention, are sex addicts, plus have absolutely zero sense of guilt, with some kind of really distorted sense of entitlement. On top of that they're deathly afraid of being alone, so they're always looking to have a back up dude.

Not that any of this should come as a surprise, but for any guys with romantic notions of how good moments of their relationship were, the truth is most likely that they were fucking some other guy(s) behind your back. The fucked up thing is that they are such masters of lying and manipulation that often they will spoon feed you bullshit, but do it so utterly convincingly that you fall for their scam.

Add to that their crazy jealousy and possessiveness and it makes a man think that there is no way she'd cheat on me, because she "loves me so much" and is "deathly afraid of losing me", which are lines they will continuously tell you. The way they are able to stroke your ego and make you feel like a "king" is incredible, it can be very intoxicating when a seductive beautiful woman is telling it to you, but in reality everything they say and do is a lie.

[HankMoody]

(12-29-2015 01:57 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I really doubt that a BPD chick can remain loyal, faith, and monogamous in a relationship. They just thrive too much on male attention, are sex addicts, plus have absolutely zero sense of guilt, with some kind of really distorted sense of entitlement. On top of that they're deathly afraid of being alone, so they're always looking to have a back up dude.

Not that any of this should come as a surprise, but for any guys with romantic notions of how good moments of their relationship were, the truth is most likely that they were fucking some other guy(s) behind your back. The fucked up thing is that they are such masters of lying and manipulation that often they will spoon feed you bullshit, but do it so utterly convincingly that you fall for their scam.

Add to that their crazy jealousy and possessiveness and it makes a man think that there is no way she'd cheat on me, because she "loves me so much" and is "deathly afraid of loving me", which are lines they will continuously tell you. The way they are able to stroke your ego and make you feel like a "king" is incredible, it can be very intoxicating when a seductive beautiful woman is telling it to you, but in reality everything they say and do is a lie.

Ding dong. Couldn't have said it any better.

[HankMoody]

If you've ever wondered, even for a second, "is she banging him?", the answer is yes.

BPDs get their validation through male attention and affection. They're fascinated with the tattoo artist, the wall street banker, and even the dry cleaner. They thrive on attention from men. And the best way to maintain that attention is sex. They'll lie about how they're "just friends" or "business connections." This doesn't stop once the BPD gets engaged or married, either.

BPDs are more promiscuous than you could imagine, but they'll cover it up in sweet lies that you'll actually believe. Expect to hear a lot of "I spent the night at my sister's house", "I was saving ducks crossing the road", or "I went to bed early last night", and to believe it. At the same time, those stains on her bed were from "watching movies and eating Chinese food with her sister."

My BPD ex-girlfriend became "besties" with one of my close female friends. When we broke up, my female friend was astonished at how many partners the BPD had, both while we were together and after it ended. Even she couldn't take the constant influx of men. She would be "talking to" (read: banging) 10 - 12 guys at a time. That she knew about. Normal women grow to hate BPDs.

These women usually have no female friends for a reason. Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie. They obsess over a male for hot minute and then move on.

[OGNorCal707]

I think someone earlier in this thread mentioned that BPD women like to date really "generous, trusting, and caring men", maybe not in those exact words, but I believe that to be the truth, at least it certainly was in my case. I wouldn't say I was "classically beta" in my relationship with my BPD ex, but having been relatively naive and inexperienced in relationships, I definitely was very trusting, honest, and went out of my way to be caring and sympathetic with her.

I believe that the BPDs like these kinds of guys because they are very easy to manipulate, and manipulation and control of the man is what the BPD woman wants in the relationship. It works greatly in her favor if the guy is super kind and generous, so she can leach as much as possible off of you, these women are the closest thing to vampires that exist in the world. Plus all they know how to do is take, the only giving they do is with giving you wild and crazy sex.

A very trusting guy is a perfect mark for them, they spin their web like a black widow, and then keep you entranced in their clutches with their lies, manipulation, cunning, and deceit. Another analogy I like for BPD women are the syrens of Greek mythology, the ones that sang the beautiful songs that made the sailors go mad and crash their ships on the rocks, leading to them perishing in the sea. BPDs are the syrens of modern times, they will entrance you with their looks, get inside your head and stroke your ego, lead you to believe they are madly in love with you, cast a spell with their mouths when they suck your cock, but in reality they are like vampires, sucking your life force, and drawing you into their madness, ultimately leading to your demise.