[the virgin chronicles]

Just watched this. I actually think this is one of Roosh's most reasonable media portrayals to date. The editing was not the hack job I am used to seeing--Roosh got some honest points across, and that means that men that see this are going to seek out Roosh, seek out more info so that they can decide for themselves.

I think it was a success overall, I don't need to see the BBC Host start fat-shaming people before I can call it a success.

[Sooth]

(12-14-2015 06:59 PM)Collide Wrote:  

Good crop. I don't have time to watch the whole show. I hate to think how Roosh was slandered in the other segments.

(12-15-2015 02:13 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

It's just so sad and predictable.

Never once does this Reggie Yates ever--once!--focus on the depth or range of ideas that percolate through these parts. Never once did he attempt to go through the doctrinal edifice of neomasculinity. Never once did he even try to ask why what Roosh's neomasculine doctrinal points are, or what they mean.

Not. One. Time.

Why? Of course we know why.

Because doing so would invite excursions into forbidden regions of thought. It would--Heaven help us!--plant dangerous seeds that might grow in impressionable minds.

Instead, we get snark (the glancing at the camera like some smartass prick when Roosh said an "offensive" comment about derelict women), and the absurd focus on the "offensive" things that appeared in some old books.

By refusing to acknowledge what is out there, mainstream media outlets like the BBC only serve to make the inevitable social correction even more convulsive and disturbing, when it finally does come.

And will it come. Like a backlash.

Quint, for once in my life I'm going to have to disagree with you (based on the roosh only crop I just watched).

What I saw was a man of colour who went to get dat news and was like "Aww sheit, cracker speaketh truth but I gotta keep my job atm fam".

Then proceed to edit with just enough SJW so he wouldn't get fired.

He flew to poland? Common. Cheer up guys.

Hes on board. Get him on ROK or something, hook him up with Milo.

I thought this BBC segment was going to be a massacre but it turned out exactly the same as when I did a documentary film substitute paper with a good camera and a whole lot of bullshit on my indigenous culture to get good grades.

In the words of New Zealands own one hit wonder Dae Hamo - Go Get Dat Money:

(Watch the vid, it's grouse)

[369eyedea]

Roosh, what is the flag on your wallpaper of your computer?

[The Beast1]

Won't lie, Roosh's apartment was hella swanky. I died when I saw that "Your face will be blurred..." poster above the bed. Had me in tears.

Time for a trip to Poland!

[Mercenary]

(12-16-2015 04:28 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

He flew to poland? Common. Cheer up guys.

Hes on board. Get him on ROK or something, hook him up with Milo.

I have to admit I am surprised as well.
Definitely not unbiased and objective by any standard…but it isn’t the character assassination hit-job I expected either.

The fact that the BBC paid Reggie and a film crew to fly to Poland (and likely covered all their hotel & food expenses) just to air 5 and half minutes of an interview he could easily done with Roosh in London says a lot.

They wouldn’t be spending this kind of money if no one in the BBC didn’t take Roosh seriously.
Either Reggie convinced them to bankroll that trip (cause he’s a secret supporter) or a “manosphere sympathtic” boss somewhere thought it was worth giving Roosh even more airtime.
Also I find it hilarious when Reggie says at 9:46 Reggie says “I’ve had to fly to Poland to find out.”

[Benoit]

(12-16-2015 06:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

The fact that the BBC paid Reggie and a film crew to fly to Poland (and likely covered all their hotel & food expenses) just to air 5 and half minutes of an interview he could easily done with Roosh in London says a lot.

They wouldn’t be spending this kind of money if no one in the BBC didn’t take Roosh seriously.

From chatting to the production guys at the event, they're an independent company that's making these programmes for the BBC.

So "the BBC" isn't doing anything other than giving them a pot of cash and expecting something they can show at the end.

Wouldn't surprise me if Reggie or one of the team really fancied a trip to Poland.

[Sooth]

(12-16-2015 07:01 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

Wouldn't surprise me if Reggie or one of the team really fancied a trip to Poland.

He wouldn't have financed the whole thing but he would have been paid something. BBC wouldn't have been like "This is a good story m8, we pay you everything to fly there".

I think that piece was the best he could do without losing his job.

[Bushido]

The US media wouldn't have even tried for any semblance of balance. The fact that the BBC actually let Roosh mention that his "legalise rape on private property" post was satire is unusual. Crazy as it sounds, this in itself shows just how low our expectations have fallen with regards to journalistic integrity.

[DaveR]

(12-16-2015 04:41 AM)369eyedea Wrote:  

Roosh, what is the flag on your wallpaper of your computer?

Flag of Odessa, Ukraine.

[glugger]

I still can't believe that anyone who passed high school english can't tell that 'How To Stop Rape' is satirical.

Quote:

Thankfully, a man only has to be told the phrase “rape is bad” at some point after puberty by an overweight feminist to definitively stop his future brutal and bloody rape career.

How can anyone think someone says this with a straight face? It just blows my mind.

[UroboricForms]

(12-16-2015 09:15 AM)glugger Wrote:  

I still can't believe that anyone who passed high school english can't tell that 'How To Stop Rape' is satirical.

Quote:

Thankfully, a man only has to be told the phrase “rape is bad” at some point after puberty by an overweight feminist to definitively stop his future brutal and bloody rape career.

How can anyone think someone says this with a straight face? It just blows my mind.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public, especially in the UK.

[Belgrano]

(12-16-2015 09:15 AM)glugger Wrote:  

I still can't believe that anyone who passed high school english can't tell that 'How To Stop Rape' is satirical.

Same here. English is a foreign language for me and yet even I immediately noticed. I guess some people just see what they want to see.

Also, I can imagine why Reggie just had to fly to Poland:

1. Reggie tries to be a good journalist and to do some research.
2. He reads "Bang Poland".
3. Reggie goes

4. Puts the book down, calls his producer and tells him:
"We gotta go to Poland as soon as possible for further...research. You know, about this Roosh guy and the stuff he writes about...maybe also interview some local women...in a bar...just to show Roosh´s horribly misogynistic methods of talking to them. I know it's tough but I would be willing to volunteer."
Producer: "Wow. You are so brave, Reggie! Here, take this unlimited BBC credit card and stay a week to expose the terrible truth."
5. Reggie and his crew:


I also enjoyed the part where Roosh shows his apartment.
Was hoping to see the tea collection, as a fellow connaisseur.
Would be awesome to see a Roosh home story, "MTV Cribs" style.

[debeguiled]

(12-16-2015 09:15 AM)glugger Wrote:  

I still can't believe that anyone who passed high school english can't tell that 'How To Stop Rape' is satirical.

He knows it was satirical. He is playing to his audience, who he is certain will never take the time to look it up and read it for themselves. They are taking their cues from their friend Nametag: Reg, who would never lead them astray.

[marty]

(12-15-2015 11:02 PM)the virgin chronicles Wrote:  

Just watched this. I actually think this is one of Roosh's most reasonable media portrayals to date. The editing was not the hack job I am used to seeing--Roosh got some honest points across, and that means that men that see this are going to seek out Roosh, seek out more info so that they can decide for themselves.

I think it was a success overall, I don't need to see the BBC Host start fat-shaming people before I can call it a success.

I agree, they let him express some of his points. Of course the black guy didn't agree with him but what did we expect?

I found it hilarious that they flew to Poland to chat with Roosh for another few minutes. The sign above the bed nearly killed me though. Well played!

[Roosh]

(12-16-2015 04:41 AM)369eyedea Wrote:  

Roosh, what is the flag on your wallpaper of your computer?

(12-16-2015 08:53 AM)DaveR Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 04:41 AM)369eyedea Wrote:  

Roosh, what is the flag on your wallpaper of your computer?

Flag of Odessa, Ukraine.

Correct. I never changed it when I left. I have a certain emotional attachment to the city.

(12-16-2015 10:44 AM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  

I also enjoyed the part where Roosh shows his apartment.
Was hoping to see the tea collection, as a fellow connaisseur.
Would be awesome to see a Roosh home story, "MTV Cribs" style.

I did! But it didn't make the final cut. Actually only about 5-10% of the apartment footage did make it. We talked for a long time.

As for Reggie, I'm certain he's sincere with his views. When the cameras were off, I can't say he was friendly to me. The production crew however, were much more open to my views.

[Jura]

Roosh's reaction when Reggie tells him that it's quite hard to find the satirical angle in the How to stop rape article is classic.

[spi]

It could have been a lot worse.
For one, they didn't show any footage when he interviewed the door girl (if you were at the London talk, you would have known all about her and what she did).

On the other hand I was there at the talk and its a shame they didn't show any footage of the more 'mainstream' parts of the talk. By that I mean the points that Roosh made that would make the average guy nod in agreement (such as things like it is getting harder and harder to date and meet women without being labeled a 'creep').

I did like the fact they showed the guys asking some of the questions though - I thought the guy concerned for his daughter would be relatable to anyone watching. I thought Roosh's answer was a bit extreme and I'm curious as to what the guy asking the question thought of the answer. If Roosh's answer had been a bit more 'palatable', audiences wouldn't switch off immediately.

As this was a mainstream piece, they didn't (and I wouldn't have expected them to be able to) differentiate between the different parts of the manosphere. They lumped us in with the chubby troll guy which is not what I am (and what this forum is) about.

The fact that the comments on Reggie's youtube video got so much hate should have indicated to him that there are different groups in the manosphere because not one guy at the London talk was like that at all. As I watched, I had wished that no one had attacked him personally in the comments because that would have made all of the other comments legitimate ("Don't talk to the BBC, they will stitch us up") etc.

It was irritating to watch him go through those comments and be at a loss as to why people would not want to speak to him. "I haven't done anything! Why do they think we will stitch them up??" He is so blind that he is part of the system that is against us.

I think there will be a large number of men who are slowly finding themselves more aligned with parts of the manosphere, its just they all pretend they find it extreme for fear of reprisals when deep down they know full well it is the truth. It will just be a matter of time before they all reveal themselves.

[Barbarian_Brad]

Is there a place American viewers can watch the full show, and not just the Roosh section uploaded? I'd like to see Milo and the other segments as well.

[Pareto]

delete

[Mr Finish]

I think a seed may have been planted. Anyone who does a little research before they rush to judgment will see the depth of roosh and his blog, which has inspired me (and many others) to exercise, travel, strive for truth and better themselves.

[Mercenary]

(12-17-2015 12:12 PM)Pareto Wrote:  

Thank you for posting the entire video Pareto.
It's good to see the Roosh segments in the context of the whole so-called "documentary".

Having seen the entire hour long segment now, it's interesting to note that Roosh is both the topic he opens at the very beginning and then closes with at again the end....as if Reggie (or some editor at the BBC) decided that Roosh is the most serious/important element that somehow ties the whole thing together.
I must say that any man who watches this and has no idea who Roosh is will find their way here after watching this.


However, the phrase Reggie closes with at the very end, (minute 54:29) is the biggest load of shit I have heard in a long time:

Quote:

”...and they need someone to show them you don’t have to be this way to be successful in any part of your life....particularly when it comes to women.”

Reggie, I speak to you directly now:

I don't know what you exactly mean by "this way"....but I can tell you that apart from being a famous male celebrity (like you) or a man in a position of high power and authority, I can assure you that every single one of us here will go to our graves secure in the knowledge that game is the only tested and proven method to be consistently successful with women.

[Direct or subtle]

This Reggie Yates dude is so gay!

I just had to look at him once to know he's very probably gay.. and Roosh actually thought the same way about Yates (in the video, you see Roosh, during the public meeting, having a good look at Yates and right away telling him: "Are you gay?").

So, let's use the gay-radar on Yates :

1- Narcissism : on the video, after mixing and cutting, you see Yates' face all the time (or, like 95% of the video time). No image of Poland, no image of girls or sightseeing, nothing, just his face all the time, on screen (a few shots of Roosh's face, that's all). So, Yates shows his face all the time, obviously thinking he's cute... lol, this is also very gay : the uglier they are, the more they think they are handsome and want to show their faces! : gay!

2- Answering "are you gay?", by saying "No, proof is I was married!" : a normal dude would just laugh at the prospect, or say "yeah sure, let's talk about it outside"... but trying to defend oneself by saying: "oh I know I look gay but I was married"? Also, lot of public-figures gays are "married", it doesn't prove anything. I bet his "wife" was just an alibi.

Look, I'm not gay, I just bought myself a "spouse", I just don't know how to put my arm around a girl is all:


3- His clothes are comically gay! Like all closet gays, he tries hard not to look gay, but at the same time, puts on very gay-looking clothes (he can't help it!): first it looks like a catering-employee vest on top of yachting outfit , then he has blue jeans with a very strange sagging and flat-tight bottom... also, each time he wears striped, gay "Jean-Paul Gaultier" tee-shirts : gay!



4- When he laughs in the kitchen, he actually hides his face in his hands, like a giggling Japanese girl : gay!

5- After interviewing, Roosh said that he could talk in a normal, friendly way, with the filming crew in his flat, but not with Yates : I'd say it's because gays like Yates have nothing to say to straight guys outside of superficial talks.

All in all, my gay-radar is at 99% gay for this Yates dude!

[Paracelsus]

^^^^

...maybe we should introduce him to Milo?

[Belgrano]

(12-18-2015 05:11 AM)Direct or subtle Wrote:  

...also, each time he wears striped, gay "Jean-Paul Gaultier" tee-shirts : gay!

What´s inherently gay about striped t-shirts?

Quote:

The Russian telnyashka is a white undershirt horizontally striped in various colors, which may be sleeveless or not. It is an iconic uniform garment worn by the Russian Navy, the Russian Airborne Troops (VDV) and the Russian Naval Infantry (marines). Dating back to the 19th century Tsarist Navy it was subsequently worn by the Soviet successors of these troops.
(...)
Telnyashka has become such evident symbol of masculinity in Soviet culture, that it is sported by dozens of popular non-military characters of the cinema and even children' cartoons.
(...)
There is a popular saying that ironically presents telnyashkas as an attribute of "real men": "We are few in number, but we wear telnyashkas!" (Russian: "Нас мало, но мы в тельняшках!", Nas malo, no my v telnyashkakh!).

The Russians adapted it from the French Navy's Marinière, which is also where the French fashion industry got the design from.

You are really going to let the gays you dislike so much get away with subverting yet another traditional symbol of masculinity and transform it into one of their's? Just go along with it, accepting it?
You might wanna reconsider that.

[bacan]

Ridiculous ...

"Hey MGTOWs.. I just want to share your views on my show.."
.. Proceeds to decline the suggested time to talk then interview feminist Laurie penny and some weird troll who went to jail for posting rape threats from his basement..

Agree with others. This guy is gay.