[debeguiled]

(12-08-2015 10:06 AM)Barraclough Wrote:  

Reggie has nothing on Louis Theroux, who is the king of the "living with extremists" genre. All Reggie can do in that clip is look aloof, raise his eyebrows every so often and put a spin on the face-blurring aspect.

Yeah, he was probably influenced by Louis. He starts off using that very same faux-naif presentation style. It isn't as natural to him as it is to Theroux.

[AnonymousBosch]

It's about what I'd expect from the BBC.

(12-08-2015 11:01 AM)Oz. Wrote:  

This guy mean mugs you every time you say something he apparently doesn't agree with just like a woman would, instead of being logical, rational and understanding like a man should.

Well, look at his picture. He's apparently a woman from the hands down. Solid, child-bearing hips. I feel like he should be trying to sell me real estate.



This is the risk you take when you're filmed in front of a static solid background. I mentioned to McQueen ages back to consider a public space for his interview where he can have his 'members of the public' (secretly friends) in the background with instructions to move around so they can't fool with continuity.

There is always a pre-formed narrative with the media. You're simply there to give them the necessary sound bites to sell it. There is little point interacting with them.

[Quintus Curtius]

I saw the video clip. Guy seems to be a bit of a knob warrior.

I miss the old England.

The England of Lord Kitchener, Rudyard Kipling, H.G. Wells, Conan Doyle, etc., etc....

I wish we could go back to the days of the old England...but it's all gone now.

[mogsy]

Just looking at the guys reactions you can tell that he isn't there to listen just to perform for the camera and looked shocked at anything that doesn't conform to the BBCs opinion. Unfortunately this guy represents the views of the uninformed and people who watch TV every night hoping that the TV will inform them how to think.

The Spice Girls called and they want their lead Spice Boy representative back, get back on the spice bus Reggie.

[Barraclough]

Here's a leak of the final BBC edit:

[RedPillUK]

(12-08-2015 05:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It's about what I'd expect from the BBC.

(12-08-2015 11:01 AM)Oz. Wrote:  

This guy mean mugs you every time you say something he apparently doesn't agree with just like a woman would, instead of being logical, rational and understanding like a man should.

Well, look at his picture. He's apparently a woman from the hands down. Solid, child-bearing hips. I feel like he should be trying to sell me real estate.

Has he waxed his legs as well!?! There's no hair there.

[RedPillUK]

(12-08-2015 10:34 AM)civpro Wrote:  

As tall as you are, the presenter manages to even heightmog you, which doesn't bode well for the journalism of this documentary. I mean, can you really expect a guy who could well pass for an NBA point guard to understand the plight of the common man in today's completely insane dating and social culture? It's brutal out there.

I noticed that as well, he's also right in Roosh's personal space as he's interviewing him. It seemed like a subtle way to intimidate and make him nervous but it didn't really work.

Then he argues Roosh's points with uncomfortable facial expressions.

So feminine.

[Nineteen84]

what a wally

[marty]

(12-08-2015 05:37 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

This looks like the main part that made the show:

They muted applause after my fat joke, but otherwise I think it came out fine when considering this is the BBC.

It was surprisingly good. I was afraid they might twist every word of yours and cut every scene to make you look really bad.

Any more to come or was this all? Pretty short I have to say.

[Renton1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06...men-at-war

Well fuck me!

Much better than I expected.

Pretty fair in the editing, brought up aĺl the usual suspects, but more importantly HEADLINE billing for Roosh.

Thanks BBC!

Would also expect Roosh to get a lot of traffic from this.

Didn't realise he went to Poland to meet Roosh after Canada.

Who wants to start a thread with a poll to see who has or hasn't "poked it in whilst she slept"?

[Collide]

I cut out all the bullshit and uploaded just the Roosh bits. Milo is briefly in the episode as well, but more than half of the program is dedicated to MGTOW/MRA dweebs and it's not worth watching in full.

[Foolsgo1d]

I didn't watch the episode but in the TV listings the programme had a description, and I quote;

Quote:

Reggie meets young British men who think feminism has gone too far, from those espousing men's rights at Hyde Park's Speakers' Corner to an online movement of male separatists

A picture of three of our esteemed comrades in arms.




Here is our only female separatist member, Mrs Chocolate.

[Surreyman]

(12-14-2015 06:59 PM)Collide Wrote:  

Absolutely fantastic. That 'legalisation' article was such a piece of media genius. Just enough rope for them to hang themselves with.

[Sumanguru]

(12-14-2015 06:59 PM)Collide Wrote:  

I cut out all the bullshit and uploaded just the Roosh bits. Milo is briefly in the episode as well, but more than half of the program is dedicated to MGTOW/MRA dweebs and it's not worth watching in full.

He's an idiot incapable of thinking outside of his defined little mainstream feminized box, but at least they let Roosh get his points in. TBH, even with the biased host, this is mostly likely one of the better presentations of the Manosphere on TV. I did LOL when they showed AVFM's website, as if Paul Elam hasn't put a ton of distance between himself and Roosh/PUA/Neomasculinity.

Edit: I like how the host dodged the question about using fame to get sex. "I've been in this industry since 8. I'm engaged. How dare you?" Uhhh, so you've been engaged since 8? You were probably single and in the TV field post-puberty for a few years, you NEVER used your fame and influence to get laid? Nice cognitive kill switch. Maybe he's not so stupid after all...

[Pareto]

delete

[Renton1875]

(12-14-2015 07:05 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

I didn't watch the episode but in the TV listings the programme had a description, and I quote;

Quote:

Reggie meets young British men who think feminism has gone too far, from those espousing men's rights at Hyde Park's Speakers' Corner to an online movement of male separatists

Yeh, feared the worst when I came across this " lady reviewer" from the BBC's own TV guide the Radio Times today:

Think Roosh may have given this one the tingles..

Quote:

In the second film of the series, Reggie Yates is exploring the men’s rights movement, which this lady reviewer struggles to sympathise with – as does, fortunately, a baffled Yates.

The tone is set when Yates meets Roosh V – a sort-of pick-up artist/professional provocateur – at a London talk about endangered masculinity. Poor old men, says Roosh, “have to be taught how not to rape by feminists who are really fat”.

Yates listens politely to all of the activists he meets — to be fair, they’re not all as odious as Roosh — but he spots a flaw in their tactics: “It’s not about making young men feel that they have value; it’s about making young women feel like they have none.”

ABOUT THIS PROGRAMME
2/3. Reggie meets the angry young British men who think feminism has gone too far, inlcuding those espousing men's rights men's rights at Speakers' Corner in Hyde Park, an underground online movement of male separatists and self-styled pick-up artist Roosh V, who dishes out advice on how to have more sex with women. Reggie quickly discovers how dark this world can be - from the men trolling feminists online to the influential agitators advising how to change a woman's mind when she says `no'.

Feared the worst after reading that, but.............what did we get.


Full coverage of all Roosh's books, even a plug where to buy them, on screen coverage of his sites, all this on the BBC.... Money can't buy this kind of publicity!

But in the end I think they gave Roosh a fair platform to air some viewpoints, albeit they chose the agenda, hopefully the traffic generated will see the forum & the other sites as they are, vaults of endless information with an infinity of topics.

Knowledge is power.

[brob]

Again they misrepresent and conveniently leave out certain parts while portraying the Bang Iceland and How To Stop Rape pieces. But at least they let Roosh speak and get some points in so it wasn't a complete hatchet job.

[Dan Woolf]

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[GlobalMan]

I think the BBC could have done a lot better with the blurring, some of it was pretty light IMO. I've done it in my video work and this is just not done well. Is it "enough"? Probably. But should have been more extensive.

[Roosh]

The segment was probably the best we can get out of the BBC. I was expecting worse.

I like this picture they used:

   

[Eskhander]

The production is well done propaganda. If I didn't know Roosh's work better I would have come away thinking he's desperate for approval and an attention whore.

This is most evident in how the presenter frames Roosh's defense of his own character as "desperately trying to be the victim."

And he clearly does not think Roosh is a rapist since he was pretty at ease.

I also notice that the presenter did not read the opening paragraph of the rape article. To me that paragraph made it obvious it was not a serious idea.

That article will haunt you forever. Best get used to it. But what confuses me is why the article on Jews isn't brought up. All they would have to say is you're an anti-semite and flash the title of the article.

[Quintus Curtius]

The best thing I can say about the BBC segment is that it was predictable. It kept itself within the doctrinally circumscribed bounds of acceptable thought.

[GlobalMan]

I wonder if there's been an uptick in forum signups following the program. There are definitely a lot of guests viewing right now.

[Paracelsus]

I don't doubt it, but we're going to have to wait a good 14 days or so for the RVF's equivalent of shark week as the troll accounts get winnowed out.

[Collide]

(12-15-2015 12:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

The segment was probably the best we can get out of the BBC. I was expecting worse.

I like this picture they used:

Sorry, first thing that popped into my head.