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What realistic steps could the EU take to protect itself from Islamic extremism?
11-15-2015, 10:38 AM
Turn the middle east liberal. Pour billions of dollars in funding liberal causes there, then wait for about a generation.
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11-15-2015, 01:35 PM
Guys, someone please post again that picture of a sheep with the french colors. I saw it earlier in one of the three relevant threads (paris attack, migrant invasion, how to stop this) but can't find anymore. Thanks!
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11-15-2015, 03:59 PM
The problem is that most Europeans are so socially conditioned and removed from violence, they will never support a right wing stance until they are personally exposed to violence. Its almost as if these terrorist attacks don't exist, and they can take to Facebook and Twitter to feel like they're making a difference by changing the profile pictures. Not until they see violence personally, more than one or two times, will they finally get it.
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11-15-2015, 04:06 PM
Quote: (11-15-2015 08:04 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:
Quote: (11-14-2015 03:19 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:
Quote: (11-14-2015 11:15 AM)Tim in real life Wrote:
7. Stop fucking provoking the locals in the Middle East, to the point the Anglosphere military glory hunters are too giddy to invade the Middle East like it's The Crusades.
So you believe Islamic extremists attack the West because we have "provoked" them, do you?
Nevermind that Islamists have been attacking Americans since before the Declaration of Independence, before we set foot in any of their countries.
Provoking them? You can't deny that, America loves doing that and it should stop. The worst of it is this, America and western countries should stop bombing the Middle East and killing people and then selling them weapons.
Can't be bothered to repeat what I've said elsewhere, it's getting old.
The West did not create Islamic extremism.
It's foolish and ahistorical to think that you can simply 'leave them alone' and they will stop what they do.
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11-15-2015, 04:30 PM
No but you do need to leave the dictators that control these cretins with an iron fist alone.
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11-15-2015, 07:34 PM
Quote: (11-14-2015 12:24 PM)Libertas Wrote:
The "moderate" solutions:
1. Immediately implement Austrailia's policy on boats. If you come in uninvited by boat (or through Ceuta) with no visa, you will NEVER make Europe home. PERIOD.
2. Mass deportations of every fucking "refugee" that came through since 2013 in violation of the Dublin rules. You are no longer a refugee when you're in Greece or Italy.
3. Immediate halt to any further immigration from the Middle East and North Africa. If Europe really needs immigrants, take them from elsewhere like the US is doing for the most part. Say what you want about our immigration policy, and indeed it deserves much criticism, but the people we get are much better than the ones Europe's been getting.
4. Bans on the hijab and anything else like that in public.
5. Muslims already in Europe must renounce certain passages in the Koran. If they do not, institute a self-deportation policy on the lines of Israel.
6. Immediate deportation of any criminal Muslims and their families.
The more extreme solutions don't need to be said. We all know what they are. Hopefully that won't happen, but I'm getting further and further the feeling that 2015 was the year moderation died.
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11-15-2015, 09:14 PM
Realistically, nothing can be done to stem the tide of "Islamic Extremism" as long as the people who are in charge stay in charge. The EU is not going to close shut the borders. Hollande is not going to rethink the splendor that is multiculturalism and Merkel will continue to push for the soft genocide of the German Volk through mass importation of brown people.
What should happen and what must happen in order for Europe to remain European is to militarize the border countries of the south and southeast. Next each country should be responsible for removing all Muslims (not just "extremist" ones) from their lands. Then finally restructure the political apparatus in such a way that emphatically declares European blood as integral and paramount to the success and well being of the continent.
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11-15-2015, 11:33 PM
Fanatics are manly 2th or 3th generation immigrants. Not direct refugees. Maybe those refugees will turn into some, 90 % will live on social welfare for the next 15 years. No future for them to take part as a productive member of society, frustration will rise.
A lot of 2th and 3th born immigrants have a high frustration. They drop often out of school, they are in the lower spectrum of society. In many areas they life in kind of ghettos with no perspective. Make it very easy for radical Imans to train them into fanatics. Those people are manly loser and their fanaticism is the only thing that let them feel as winners.
When Europe want to stop this, Europe should take care what kind of people they let in. Don't let everybody in. And those that pass should watched. Send them to school, do social programs and so on. That they get an education, that they can participate in society. Also break down that they clinch to each other. In the past it was very popular to send those immigrants to certain areas with no local people. Now you have a bunch of your tribesmen, a lot with no jobs and no future. What will happen? Crime will rise and some will turn into fanatics.
The next point is, to ban all religious stuff from public. To wear a hijab maybe is right in the way of the laws of tolerance. But cover your face should not be allowed. The state has to be more strict. Every radical behaviour need punishment direct. Deport them. If they can not be deported, do it anyway or lower the money they get from social welfare.
The state should also try out the money founders for radical Imans in the Mosques.
An other point is, let those people alone in their countries. Do maybe some business with them like the Chinese. Thats all. Don't get involved into their politics. Don't liberate them, don't bring them democracy. Let them fix their own shit. But for me this will not happen, western countries love to fuck the shit up in those places.
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11-16-2015, 08:52 PM
Quote: (11-14-2015 07:35 PM)rottenapple Wrote:
If you wish to set aside liberal values to win the war, for what society are you fighting the war then? If you do not represent this difference yourself, then why are you attacking the other party? You became them.
You mean liberal in the classical European sense correct? Sadly many RVF members don't have these values. I'm surprised at how many would fit in just fine with Stormfront.
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11-16-2015, 09:38 PM
The real solution to ending this crisis lies in the Middle East itself. You can argue all you want about how Islam is inherently a dangerous, evil religion that needs to be wiped off the map, but many posters here seem to forget that the main actors against ISIS are Muslims themselves. King Abdullah of Jordan has personally led the Jordanian airforce against ISIS, and General Qasem Soleimani of Iran has been hammering them from the east ever since the group first gained prominence. King Abdullah even recently released a press statement urging Muslims to combat and expose extremism within their own ranks.
These are the people who stand the greatest chance of defeating ISIS and ending extremism in the Middle East for good. Not more Western intervention, not "turning the entire Middle East into a glass factory". Islamic extremism didn't begin with Western intervention, but events like the Gulf War and the Iraq War exacerbated things beyond reason. The U.S' support for Saudi Arabia is also inexcusable. The Saudis are literally the ideological root of this entire mess. Their Wahhabi beliefs, all filthy perversions of Islam have been allowed to spread across the Middle East, claiming millions of lives across the world. Many people here advocate destroying Islam as a religion, which I would argue is impossible; but it is absolutely necessary to crush Wahhabism completely. And I believe that this can only really be done by other Muslims.