[RatInTheWoods]

Current plate is sweet, but she's got this major shit test going now about ogling other young guys in front of me, telling me how hot they are etc.

I've tried ignore it, but she's amping up for a reaction

Looking for the team on advice how to handle it.

I think ignoring it is a bit beta
I think mirroring it and pointing out chicks is a bit beta too, only chumps pine after walk by pussy.

So I have to hit this front on I think.

Ideas?

[Il Bersagliere]

You have any other plates? Bring the plate that ogles other guys around one of your other girls and amp up the sexual tension between her and you. Maybe do your own version of ogling.

It'll send a strong message that you have options and that you'll toss her in an instant.

[Fortis]

If she says "he's cute" or something you can always ham it up and be like "I'd hit it" in a totally dead pan voice, or "you should go tell him that." He number one rule is to keep it playful I think. If you appear insecure you're already in the wrong headspace.

I wouldn't react too hard, though. It's natural for a chick to look at dudes. She looked at you.

I also regularly look at girls when I'm out with my girl. I'm a man and I'm gonna do what men do.

[LA Savage]

It seems to me that this girl doesn't respect you. She's seeing that she control your emotions and make you lose frame and trying to get you to question yourself on if you're good enough for her by pointing out all the competition you have. I say just ignore her and start hitting up other girls as your current girl sounds like trouble waiting to happen. I noticed you were already defending her by calling her sweet. There is nothing sweet about a girl staying down other guys and dating how hot they are. This is a huge red flag for you that she has cheating potential. You're fortunate she is at least giving you hints for you to prepare for it. Remember it's not your pussy just your turn. If you have an Abundance Mentality then you should see this as an opportunity to leave so that you don't start to get jealous or doubting your abilities to get cute girls. Then she will learn she fucked up by doing that and see that she is easily replaceable.

[LAX]

If this girl is young and you are 'mature', then this is just a childish frame-checking shit test. In a counter-intuitive way, it's actually a sign that she feels insecure in the relationship and possibly intimidated. Just crack a half-grin and don't acknowledge verbally, tease via your eyes. You should be secure enough with yourself to not let this bother you. Young girls will do this, they are raised on boy bands and oh-my-gosh stupid fucking vampire media.

No need to sound the alarms and make a big deal. That doesn't work in your favor.

And, finally, don't get attached. When shit goes south, which it inevitably will, you want to come out unscathed and move past it to the next one with relative ease.

[Pride male]

Next.

[Hairz]

Next time she says it tell her that maybe she should upgrade you for one of them. Just don't sound too butthurt.

Or if you wanna punish her approach say a guy she's talking about with her and introduce saying "I think she wants to fuck you tonight" and leave them again. She won't ever mention another guy to you trust me. Obviously you need to come across as not giving a fuk.

[WestIndianArchie]

This is why i love the newbie board.

Ask yourself
1) Does the red pill teach me how to deal with this situation

2) If my sexual marketplace value is higher, how come this chick is not acting of her station.

3) But I gave her a withering glance, I thought that was all i needed to do as a self amused alpha?

Lol.

WIA

[Hector1]

Fuck her off she has no respect for you!

[azulsombra]

Basically, its a sign of disrespect.

I've never had a girl im banging point out guys in real life she thought were hot. Ive had girls mention some celebs they have a crush on but thats as far as I will tolerate.

She's treating you like one of her gay friends if she is constantly doing this. Fuck that noise. Demote her to Fuckbuddy status, you will be the only hot guy in the bedroom.

[Dusty]

You're being cucked.

[Svoboda]

(11-06-2015 01:12 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Current plate is sweet, but she's got this major shit test going now about ogling other young guys in front of me, telling me how hot they are etc.

I've tried ignore it, but she's amping up for a reaction

Looking for the team on advice how to handle it.

I think ignoring it is a bit beta
I think mirroring it and pointing out chicks is a bit beta too, only chumps pine after walk by pussy.

So I have to hit this front on I think.

Ideas?

Is this in Thailand with a Thai?

I'd say it's disrespectful from a Western woman doing this (and you need to control her or leave her there), but if a Thai would do this I would not even try to control it, just leave her there.

7 levels of disrespect by Tariq Nasheed (start at 07.00):

[Svoboda]

Video fixed.

[JacksonRev]

"He looks like a nice guy."

"I'm sure he has a great personality."

"I bet he makes it to at least thirty before he's homeless."

"Is that Derek Jeter?! Oh, it's just the herpes on his face."

[PapayaTapper]

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

[Dr. Howard]

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

I agree. that always makes me put a mental check for "the carousel stops for no man" in my head when I see that. I depend alot on eye fuck game, so I pick up on it often.

Last, on the "he's hot" you can also add playful dominance to the reply. If she says "oh he's cute" you can reply with "well, thats a spanking for you tonight. You're not supposed to be looking at other men"

[robreke]

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

PT beat me to it. Next time it happens, get her home at the end of the night.

Fuck her wantonly like it's the end of the world tomorrow morning so she'll never forget it.

After she leaves, then go radio silent. Don't text or answer any texts.

After she blows your phone up for a week or so because you're ignoring her, maybe just send a brief: "hey i figured you were ready to move on"

Of course she'll want clarification. Either give an aloof explanation of what you mean - because she kept talking about how hot other guys are....or don't give one.

Either way, you'll have her chasing you most likely never to pull that shit again. Needless to say this will require solid steel frame and discipline to go silent for a while to get her hamster working.

Having said all that, as others have stated she doesn't seem like LTR material.

[PapayaTapper]

(11-06-2015 09:12 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

I agree. that always makes me put a mental check for "the carousel stops for no man" in my head when I see that. I depend alot on eye fuck game, so I pick up on it often.

Last, on the "he's hot" you can also add playful dominance to the reply. If she says "oh he's cute" you can reply with "well, thats a spanking for you tonight. You're not supposed to be looking at other men"

I can see how that might be a way to handle it but this is a "zero tolerance" issue for me. I've had it happen a couple times over the years and while I don't give a rat's ass about much when it comes to women, and I have no illusions that I've been lied to, or cheated on behind my back but I'll be goddamned if I let them disrespect me to my face.

[Onto]

She's relativizing you. She's saying, "You're not the One, you're just one of the many"

Her behavior leans more towards the demonic end of the female spectrum. Why you are with someone who relatives you is another subject.

If you do want to be with her and you want her to stop then mirroring her behavior is a good option. It's not beta, it's actually hard to do effectively. She can't know you're doing it on purpose. You have to be a great actor and really sell it. When she says something, you need to sell it even more and act surprised and calmly say something like,

You: "Oh, are you upset? You do it too, so I thought it was ok"
Her: "No I don't, when?"
You (calmly): "Hmmm....oh well last week when...blah..blah. And then again when blah, blah"
Her: "Well, that's different"
You: "Oh, how?" (And then don't say anything until she answers)

Eventually she will say something where at some point you can say:

"Listen if it bothers you so much, I'm willing to agree we both stop gawking and commenting about other people" (Then don't say anything until she answers)

It's really important to suffer the silences of waiting for her response. it's one of the few and short moments in her life where she'll have the opportunity to be self-reflective and do any kind of thinking. So don't let her off the hook by suggesting answers.

If she agrees, then you may have resolved it. If instead she says, "No that's ok, I didn't mean to make a big deal of it", then you know she doesn't want to change. If it's the later you can keep mirroring until she gets agitated again, or you just downgrade her to fuck-buddy status. Maybe only good for deep-throating and taking it in the ass. I don't know, whatever you want.

When you don't mirror and go straight up confrontational, most women will just get defensive and fault you for faulting them. Eventually they will convince themselves that even though they aren't perfect, you are worse for judging/criticizing/being jealous/etc, and in fact you're the bad one and she's really ok.

That's the female hamster hard at work.

When you mirror, you bring them into feeling which their primary way of knowing.

[RatInTheWoods]

Thanks everyone for your collective wisdom and considered replies.

Seems to be a broad spectrum of thought on this issue, which falls into three camps:

1) Ignore/Laugh it off/agree and amplify shit test response.

Given that I believe the shit test shows disrespect (and a lot of posters agree with me) I think this is not the most masculine response.

2) Bin her.

Yes, an option. Some of you guys give up too easy in my opinion. Its quality pussey, then its worth a little training and correction. I like to do my bit to improve the world.

Absolute key is to maintain the frame that you are prepared to bin her over this, and I do and am...

3) Confront the behavior, and get an apology and blowjob.

I am going with this response, next time she does it, I am going to say:

"I've let a few of these slide, but it's time to tackle this disrespect you are showing.
If you do that again, you will be binned. I'm not jealous, I don't give a fuck, but no one disrespects me to my face."

[PapayaTapper]

(11-06-2015 11:07 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Thanks everyone for your collective wisdom and considered replies.

Seems to be a broad spectrum of thought on this issue, which falls into three camps:

1) Ignore/Laugh it off/agree and amplify shit test response.

Given that I believe the shit test shows disrespect (and a lot of posters agree with me) I think this is not the most masculine response.

2) Bin her.

Yes, an option. Some of you guys give up too easy in my opinion. Its quality pussey, then its worth a little training and correction. I like to do my bit to improve the world.

Absolute key is to maintain the frame that you are prepared to bin her over this, and I do and am...

3) Confront the behavior, and get an apology and blowjob.

I am going with this response, next time she does it, I am going to say:

"I've let a few of these slide, but it's time to tackle this disrespect you are showing.
If you do that again, you will be binned. I'm not jealous, I don't give a fuck, but no one disrespects me to my face."

Are you actually in Thailand or is this in the West somewhere? Makes a big difference.

[RatInTheWoods]

Are you actually in Thailand or is this in the West somewhere? Makes a big difference.
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I'm in the west now

[MrXY]

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

I've had that happen to me plenty of times. It still always shocks me a bit.
The worst is when she's actually hugging the guy and eyefucking you over his shoulder.

[Merenguero]

(11-07-2015 07:02 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

I've had that happen to me plenty of times. It still always shocks me a bit.
The worst is when she's actually hugging the guy and eyefucking you over his shoulder.

This is actually pretty common and I have seen it countless times. I remember a year or so ago, I was sitting in a bar reading the forum on my phone and having lunch on a Sunday afternoon and there were all these people there drinking and watching football games (I think drinking during the day is beyond stupid, but that is for another thread). There was this couple there, the guy was wearing a two-tone hat, had obviously low testosterone, and had a voice kind of like High Pitch Eric. He's telling everyone who will listen stuff like my wife this and my wife that. The girl who was with him, obviously his wife, then came up to me and randomly started hugging and kissing me and couldn't keep her hands off me. The guy did absolutely nothing, completely ignored the situation, and acted like it was the most normal thing in the world. She wasn't at all bad for the D.C. area either.

[Dr. Howard]

(11-06-2015 09:28 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 09:12 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 08:43 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I've had chicks eye fuck me while with another dude behind his back. First thing that goes through my head is "There's a chick who's not happy in that situation. I feel sorry for that fucking chode".

Grudge fuck and send her disrespectful ass.

I agree. that always makes me put a mental check for "the carousel stops for no man" in my head when I see that. I depend alot on eye fuck game, so I pick up on it often.

Last, on the "he's hot" you can also add playful dominance to the reply. If she says "oh he's cute" you can reply with "well, thats a spanking for you tonight. You're not supposed to be looking at other men"

I can see how that might be a way to handle it but this is a "zero tolerance" issue for me. I've had it happen a couple times over the years and while I don't give a rat's ass about much when it comes to women, and I have no illusions that I've been lied to, or cheated on behind my back but I'll be goddamned if I let them disrespect me to my face.

Also a valid strategy. In my much younger days, when I still had little game or balls at all I was out with my girlfriend and she decided to ass grind on some guy as a joke. I was sitting at a table with other mutual friends and just grabbed my coat and stood up.

Friends: "where are you going doc howard"
doc: "If X is going to be a dance floor whore, I've got other better things do to than be here"
friends: [inaudible hysteria from the girls]

about 2 min after I left the bar and was walking down the street my girlfriend came running after me sobbing hysterically and apologizing.

2 years later we were married

and I cheated on her from the ring on all the way to the divorce.

revenge is a dish best served cold.