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Quote: (04-16-2016 09:12 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

There is this girl in my uni social group. She is pretty outgoing with guys and is known to be easy as well. One particular night, we kind of had some pre drinking before going out. I was focussed on some thing at the far end of the room and she was seated below my eye level at the couch having some drinks. I missed her waving at me and didnt directly respond to her immediately. Ever since, she has been acting pretty cold towards me. Think it might be because I ignored her at first although I did talk to her much later as we were heading out.

Now, I think she is ignoring me these days whenever we are hanging out. I havent re-initiated contact with her after that. What should I do now to keep the frame and not act desperate?
I definitely dont have any feelings or stuff like that with her. I am just curious to know what is the best thing to do and why she is behaving this way. This experience will definitely help me in my interaction with other girls because these kind of things with small variations has happened to me in the past.

Thanks for the comments guys.

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

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#27

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Quote: (04-17-2016 08:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2016 09:12 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

There is this girl in my uni social group. She is pretty outgoing with guys and is known to be easy as well. One particular night, we kind of had some pre drinking before going out. I was focussed on some thing at the far end of the room and she was seated below my eye level at the couch having some drinks. I missed her waving at me and didnt directly respond to her immediately. Ever since, she has been acting pretty cold towards me. Think it might be because I ignored her at first although I did talk to her much later as we were heading out.

Now, I think she is ignoring me these days whenever we are hanging out. I havent re-initiated contact with her after that. What should I do now to keep the frame and not act desperate?
I definitely dont have any feelings or stuff like that with her. I am just curious to know what is the best thing to do and why she is behaving this way. This experience will definitely help me in my interaction with other girls because these kind of things with small variations has happened to me in the past.

Thanks for the comments guys.

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
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#28

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Quote: (04-18-2016 09:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2016 08:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2016 09:12 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

There is this girl in my uni social group. She is pretty outgoing with guys and is known to be easy as well. One particular night, we kind of had some pre drinking before going out. I was focussed on some thing at the far end of the room and she was seated below my eye level at the couch having some drinks. I missed her waving at me and didnt directly respond to her immediately. Ever since, she has been acting pretty cold towards me. Think it might be because I ignored her at first although I did talk to her much later as we were heading out.

Now, I think she is ignoring me these days whenever we are hanging out. I havent re-initiated contact with her after that. What should I do now to keep the frame and not act desperate?
I definitely dont have any feelings or stuff like that with her. I am just curious to know what is the best thing to do and why she is behaving this way. This experience will definitely help me in my interaction with other girls because these kind of things with small variations has happened to me in the past.

Thanks for the comments guys.

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

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Quote: (04-18-2016 10:57 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 09:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2016 08:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2016 09:12 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

There is this girl in my uni social group. She is pretty outgoing with guys and is known to be easy as well. One particular night, we kind of had some pre drinking before going out. I was focussed on some thing at the far end of the room and she was seated below my eye level at the couch having some drinks. I missed her waving at me and didnt directly respond to her immediately. Ever since, she has been acting pretty cold towards me. Think it might be because I ignored her at first although I did talk to her much later as we were heading out.

Now, I think she is ignoring me these days whenever we are hanging out. I havent re-initiated contact with her after that. What should I do now to keep the frame and not act desperate?
I definitely dont have any feelings or stuff like that with her. I am just curious to know what is the best thing to do and why she is behaving this way. This experience will definitely help me in my interaction with other girls because these kind of things with small variations has happened to me in the past.

Thanks for the comments guys.

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

Good advice. Right now, I am still pretty newb in game so the general advice given to me is to chat up girls wherever I am just to get the confidence.

Thing is I am in a uni environment so the highly cliquish environment is I think a hindrance for me. For some reason, girls dont really seem to be into me. It might have something to do with 'inner game' I suspect ie. the way I carry myself and my interaction with others in general.

Plus social validation seems to be impt to run college game. So, I am going out solo which is a much tougher exercise.
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#30

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Quote: (04-19-2016 09:36 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 10:57 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 09:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2016 08:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2016 09:12 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

There is this girl in my uni social group. She is pretty outgoing with guys and is known to be easy as well. One particular night, we kind of had some pre drinking before going out. I was focussed on some thing at the far end of the room and she was seated below my eye level at the couch having some drinks. I missed her waving at me and didnt directly respond to her immediately. Ever since, she has been acting pretty cold towards me. Think it might be because I ignored her at first although I did talk to her much later as we were heading out.

Now, I think she is ignoring me these days whenever we are hanging out. I havent re-initiated contact with her after that. What should I do now to keep the frame and not act desperate?
I definitely dont have any feelings or stuff like that with her. I am just curious to know what is the best thing to do and why she is behaving this way. This experience will definitely help me in my interaction with other girls because these kind of things with small variations has happened to me in the past.

Thanks for the comments guys.

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

Good advice. Right now, I am still pretty newb in game so the general advice given to me is to chat up girls wherever I am just to get the confidence.

Thing is I am in a uni environment so the highly cliquish environment is I think a hindrance for me. For some reason, girls dont really seem to be into me. It might have something to do with 'inner game' I suspect ie. the way I carry myself and my interaction with others in general.

Plus social validation seems to be impt to run college game. So, I am going out solo which is a much tougher exercise.

Simple solutions all around:

1. Make quality friends(leverage whatever you can to get to meet these kinds of people).
2. Get a better wardrobe.
3. Hit the gym.
4. Keep talking but talk to everyone.

Inner game only helps so much. Realize improving your exterior and getting social capital is infinitely better. Life and getting women is all about access and appearance before the game even kicks in. Make sure that's solid first.

"Until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words,— 'Wait and hope'."- Alexander Dumas, "The Count of Monte Cristo"

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#31

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Quote: (04-19-2016 09:58 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2016 09:36 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 10:57 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 09:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-17-2016 08:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

You're reading too much into this. Reading too much into things makes one look thirsty as all get out. Game other girls this one isn't probably going to work out with that attitude you have right there and what you've done by re-engaging contact with a girl whom wasn't into you.

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

Good advice. Right now, I am still pretty newb in game so the general advice given to me is to chat up girls wherever I am just to get the confidence.

Thing is I am in a uni environment so the highly cliquish environment is I think a hindrance for me. For some reason, girls dont really seem to be into me. It might have something to do with 'inner game' I suspect ie. the way I carry myself and my interaction with others in general.

Plus social validation seems to be impt to run college game. So, I am going out solo which is a much tougher exercise.

Simple solutions all around:

1. Make quality friends(leverage whatever you can to get to meet these kinds of people).
2. Get a better wardrobe.
3. Hit the gym.
4. Keep talking but talk to everyone.

Inner game only helps so much. Realize improving your exterior and getting social capital is infinitely better. Life and getting women is all about access and appearance before the game even kicks in. Make sure that's solid first.

Unfortunately, where I am in, in my circle, there are tons of guys orbiting those few girls. And these few girls always bang the same guys and the rest of the guys are ok with that. They dont approach, they are not willing to get to know other girls at uni, they are just going to a club/pub and are happy dancing in the same group, week in, week out. But being new to game, going solo is tough as well.

And I have this drama with girls like the one mentioned in the previous posts who suddenly go cold on me. Today, she waved at me from her dorm and when I waved back, she suddenly crouched as if she dropped something or maybe she was plugging in her laptop. Am really not sure if this is some kind of mind game designed to make me an orbiter as well and whether it's really worth it trying to spend time with her so as to know her other uni friends. Being in my mid 20s, I am also wondering if this is the demographic I should be looking at although I am at uni.

Thanks for the comments.
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#32

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Quote: (04-21-2016 07:29 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2016 09:58 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2016 09:36 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 10:57 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 09:34 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

You are right, I have been chatting up other girls. Maybe I should be doing that when she is there.

So you suggest ignoring her the next time she is in my vicinity until she initiates communication?

Normally ignoring is what I do in these situations even before I was introduced to game and I find this just leads to a disinterested attitude between me and the girl till the end even though I was not really interested in her in the first place. This stuff happens to me a lot for some reason.
A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

Good advice. Right now, I am still pretty newb in game so the general advice given to me is to chat up girls wherever I am just to get the confidence.

Thing is I am in a uni environment so the highly cliquish environment is I think a hindrance for me. For some reason, girls dont really seem to be into me. It might have something to do with 'inner game' I suspect ie. the way I carry myself and my interaction with others in general.

Plus social validation seems to be impt to run college game. So, I am going out solo which is a much tougher exercise.

Simple solutions all around:

1. Make quality friends(leverage whatever you can to get to meet these kinds of people).
2. Get a better wardrobe.
3. Hit the gym.
4. Keep talking but talk to everyone.

Inner game only helps so much. Realize improving your exterior and getting social capital is infinitely better. Life and getting women is all about access and appearance before the game even kicks in. Make sure that's solid first.

Unfortunately, where I am in, in my circle, there are tons of guys orbiting those few girls. And these few girls always bang the same guys and the rest of the guys are ok with that. They dont approach, they are not willing to get to know other girls at uni, they are just going to a club/pub and are happy dancing in the same group, week in, week out. But being new to game, going solo is tough as well.

And I have this drama with girls like the one mentioned in the previous posts who suddenly go cold on me. Today, she waved at me from her dorm and when I waved back, she suddenly crouched as if she dropped something or maybe she was plugging in her laptop. Am really not sure if this is some kind of mind game designed to make me an orbiter as well and whether it's really worth it trying to spend time with her so as to know her other uni friends. Being in my mid 20s, I am also wondering if this is the demographic I should be looking at although I am at uni.

Thanks for the comments.

She's fucking with you and thinks that you have a thing for her. As I said IGNORE her. Do not speak to her again just don't. The above was cringeworthy to read. It's like an abused animal returning to its abusive master.

Now more importantly. Don't hang with these people then. This forum is about self-development. Make new friends meet new girls and don't come back to hang with these people again until you can bring more of your own girls.

Simple fact of the matter is that I can tell by the way you're talking about all this is that you're a low man in the group if not the absolute bottom. And to top it all off you're saying that it's because you're too old? Guys like Gio are 40 and banging 20 years olds here on this forum what's your excuse?

Seriously just get out of there, make new friends(I can absolutely guarantee you that the environment I have to work in is just as cliquish if not more so I'm talking from experience here), get out/work on your appearance like I stated above(only a man with no options talks like you do), and don't talk to this girl. Hopefully you'll pick up on it this time.

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#33

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Quote: (04-21-2016 10:32 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-21-2016 07:29 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2016 09:58 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

Quote: (04-19-2016 09:36 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Quote: (04-18-2016 10:57 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

A few things

1. Chat up girls you like only so you have the motivation to bang them.

2. Your chances of banging a girl reduce exponentially the more time you wait until banging them unless they're serial monogamists and they just broke up with their boyfriend(happened once highly doubt it'll happen again so don't worry about that).

3. It's better to ignore girls than consistently talk to them unless you want something non-sexual out of them, but even then you'll just be an orbiter if you haven't completely given up on trying to fuck them.

4. It's a numbers game at the end of the day until you get good at picking out the kind of girl that responds well to you. Don't focus too hard on advice for one girl unless you are already fucking.

All the best,

Comte

Good advice. Right now, I am still pretty newb in game so the general advice given to me is to chat up girls wherever I am just to get the confidence.

Thing is I am in a uni environment so the highly cliquish environment is I think a hindrance for me. For some reason, girls dont really seem to be into me. It might have something to do with 'inner game' I suspect ie. the way I carry myself and my interaction with others in general.

Plus social validation seems to be impt to run college game. So, I am going out solo which is a much tougher exercise.

Simple solutions all around:

1. Make quality friends(leverage whatever you can to get to meet these kinds of people).
2. Get a better wardrobe.
3. Hit the gym.
4. Keep talking but talk to everyone.

Inner game only helps so much. Realize improving your exterior and getting social capital is infinitely better. Life and getting women is all about access and appearance before the game even kicks in. Make sure that's solid first.

Unfortunately, where I am in, in my circle, there are tons of guys orbiting those few girls. And these few girls always bang the same guys and the rest of the guys are ok with that. They dont approach, they are not willing to get to know other girls at uni, they are just going to a club/pub and are happy dancing in the same group, week in, week out. But being new to game, going solo is tough as well.

And I have this drama with girls like the one mentioned in the previous posts who suddenly go cold on me. Today, she waved at me from her dorm and when I waved back, she suddenly crouched as if she dropped something or maybe she was plugging in her laptop. Am really not sure if this is some kind of mind game designed to make me an orbiter as well and whether it's really worth it trying to spend time with her so as to know her other uni friends. Being in my mid 20s, I am also wondering if this is the demographic I should be looking at although I am at uni.

Thanks for the comments.

She's fucking with you and thinks that you have a thing for her. As I said IGNORE her. Do not speak to her again just don't. The above was cringeworthy to read. It's like an abused animal returning to its abusive master.

Now more importantly. Don't hang with these people then. This forum is about self-development. Make new friends meet new girls and don't come back to hang with these people again until you can bring more of your own girls.

Simple fact of the matter is that I can tell by the way you're talking about all this is that you're a low man in the group if not the absolute bottom. And to top it all off you're saying that it's because you're too old? Guys like Gio are 40 and banging 20 years olds here on this forum what's your excuse?

Seriously just get out of there, make new friends(I can absolutely guarantee you that the environment I have to work in is just as cliquish if not more so I'm talking from experience here), get out/work on your appearance like I stated above(only a man with no options talks like you do), and don't talk to this girl. Hopefully you'll pick up on it this time.

I agree with what you say. I do intend to do hang out by myself if I am to get out of this rut. It may take very long but that seems to be the only way to do this.

The problem with some girls like the one above is that, they always have this habit of catching up with guys they know (even though barely) whenever they see them. Here I am minding my own business and they will call me out just to notice them. In these cases should I just ignore and continue on or respond and if so, what kind of response would be appropriate? Some people say ignoring or acting cold makes the guy look butthurt which is never good for game but talking to her also means that I am craving for validation which is not good either.

What do you think?
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#34

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One last time to make it clear.

Do

Not

Speak

To

Her

If she comes up and calls you out on it. Say you didn't hear her. That's all. Please don't make me repeat myself.

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#35

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Quote: (04-22-2016 07:12 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

One last time to make it clear.

Do

Not

Speak

To

Her

If she comes up and calls you out on it. Say you didn't hear her. That's all. Please don't make me repeat myself.

Ok mate, I get you. Tomorrow, I might be seeing her. Her fuck buddies have all gone for a camping trip for the weekend and she will probably be looking for orbiters to go out with. Time for the cold shoulder. Lets see how it goes..
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#36

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Quote: (04-21-2016 07:29 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Unfortunately, where I am in, in my circle, there are tons of guys orbiting those few girls. And these few girls always bang the same guys and the rest of the guys are ok with that. They dont approach, they are not willing to get to know other girls at uni, they are just going to a club/pub and are happy dancing in the same group, week in, week out. But being new to game, going solo is tough as well.

I think the bolded sentences truly encapsulate your situation.

You've mentioned this social circle you have in a lot of your posts here. They seem to be a big part of your problem.

It seems like you are the one who is content with dancing/partying with the same group, week in, week out.

Let's face the facts. Right now you are the loser in the pack not getting any of the kill. I can only imagine how bad this is affecting your inner game and confidence. Even worse, you are an Orbiter.

I already told you in your other thread you should consider taking a step back to work on yourself.

Another word of advice. Drop this group and seek out a new social circle.

It's not just you and this social circle that occupy the whole University you attend, no? Unless you are attending Bryn Mawr, university should be one of easiest settings for you to make new friends and meet new women.

I don't care how insular things are in your town, if you are not going anywhere else for a while there are literally no accuses for you not to try and accomplish this.
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#37

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I approach girls all the time, but it's generally not that difficult, as most girls who are interested in me will sit near me, stand near me or throw a glance my way. If they don't, they are not interested.
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#38

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Quote: (04-23-2016 12:45 PM)Designate Wrote:  

Quote: (04-21-2016 07:29 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Unfortunately, where I am in, in my circle, there are tons of guys orbiting those few girls. And these few girls always bang the same guys and the rest of the guys are ok with that. They dont approach, they are not willing to get to know other girls at uni, they are just going to a club/pub and are happy dancing in the same group, week in, week out. But being new to game, going solo is tough as well.

I think the bolded sentences truly encapsulate your situation.

You've mentioned this social circle you have in a lot of your posts here. They seem to be a big part of your problem.

It seems like you are the one who is content with dancing/partying with the same group, week in, week out.

Let's face the facts. Right now you are the loser in the pack not getting any of the kill. I can only imagine how bad this is affecting your inner game and confidence. Even worse, you are an Orbiter.

I already told you in your other thread you should consider taking a step back to work on yourself.

Another word of advice. Drop this group and seek out a new social circle.

It's not just you and this social circle that occupy the whole University you attend, no? Unless you are attending Bryn Mawr, university should be one of easiest settings for you to make new friends and meet new women.

I don't care how insular things are in your town, if you are not going anywhere else for a while there are literally no accuses for you not to try and accomplish this.

Definitely, my social skills need some improvement. I agree to that. However living with some of these people on campus in the same kitchen, means I will run into them frequently. It might sound strange to you but these people are mostly the only ones that use the common areas at my uni for pre drinking before going out. Most of my other mates are absolutely not interested in game. Being more like a commuter school, most of the people staying on campus are asians and it is my observation that most of them dislike the drinking and partying culture so they cant really be seen socializing much. Most of the aussies go back to their towns for the weekend and have their own cliques, I rarely see them even at events organized by the uni Accommodation Services.

Perhaps some of the other Aussie members in the forum who have stayed on campus can relate their experiences and the nature of their social groups. I believe the dynamics is different here than what America has.

This led me to go out solo on the big nights with of course limited success. But with a stronger motivation to head out and tough it out alone, I think I can only improve. These days, I might only do some drinking and chatting with them to warm up before going my own way.

I actually think that with stronger game, I stand a chance with the post uni crowd as compared to uni chicks but that can only come with immense effort from my part. Post uni women are more likely to come out in smaller groups/alone and at least appear more friendly than uni chicks for random approaches but members who are more familiar with game in regional Aus cities would have to verify it. This is how it stands now.
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Quote: (04-23-2016 12:52 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  

I approach girls all the time, but it's generally not that difficult, as most girls who are interested in me will sit near me, stand near me or throw a glance my way. If they don't, they are not interested.

Yeah, I get the IOIs a lot of times but sometimes its difficult to know if its actual interest bec being in a predominantly white town, i cant help being conspicuous. I do approach but then my verbal game lets me down. I soon run out of topics to speak and start asking things like what she's studying and the excitement of the convo then starts dying out and her interest level also probably goes down.

Am talking about a uni kind of environment here.
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What do you do when a girl gives you her number, you text her, and she either flakes on the date or never responds? This happens a lot because I got to a University and I'm not sure if I should cut them off when I see them or say hi and stay in a chippy attitude.

Growth Over Everything Else.
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Quote: (04-24-2016 03:16 AM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  

What do you do when a girl gives you her number, you text her, and she either flakes on the date or never responds? This happens a lot because I got to a University and I'm not sure if I should cut them off when I see them or say hi and stay in a chippy attitude.

I would ignore them unless they try talking to me. Even then, I think being a little aloof and looking to game other girls would help.
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In getting to know girls, even those much older than me, I've often noted the same "you're a plebian" contempt, which they don't give to girls. It's not always about sexual unfitness, there is a genuine contempt for most men being beneath them. One such older girl tried to show off her "class" to me after I had given a speech, but upon finding my life mundane, she instantly switched to "who do you think you are talking to me" mode. Such cases are common now. I'm pointing this out to say that it doesn't seem to be just in the realm of romance. It's egotistical, so that's where an explanation could begin. They could be just overating themselves as individuals, but why the focus on men? Perhaps they feel that male ideals are what constitutes a normal man, and thus that average men are weird? These attitudes seem to have become common with cell phones and internet, so the cause is probably something hugely influenced by that. It's a big enough issue to be worth exploring.
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You need the habit of *taking action* without caring about the results.

Does a writer beat himself up over not finishing a book in one day? No, they just focus on getting in a good 5000 words every day.

Does a golfer tear his hair out for not getting a hole in one? No, they just keep practicing to get better and better.

Does a player get pissed about not getting the exact response they want every time? No, they just put in the work, because they know at the end of the day this is just a numbers game and eventually all the effort you put in will bring you the sweet, juicy reward you have earned.
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Hey guys, I had situation with a girl where I am thinking if I should even acknowledge her presence the next time I see her. As a fellow student she has tried talking with me before but I never really engaged her. I was playing some pool by myself in the common rm of my residence and there she was with her junior male friend. She seized the opportunity to ask me questions about my course, which city I am from etc. But I did tell her that I dont know a lot of ppl from my course such as her.

My fault for readily giving out answers, should have let her guess. But, I focused on my game and didnt give her all my attention ie. engaging her friend, replying to her qns while focussing on the game. The she mentioned she stayed with her husband before she moved in to residence as he went to work in another city (already indicates disinterest). I didnt make too much of it, then she switched off and from then on started talking to her friend in some other language. Was pretty rude, but soon after I finished my game, I left without saying/implying anything, she was on the phone at that time. And I dont think its good frame to start a convo with her the next time I see her even out of courtesy.

Thing is I was not interested in her so I was being naturally a bit aloof but I am wondering what turned her off suddenly. It was a light hearted convo with my attention barely being on her. I did tell her friend that I was new to table tennis when I was playing with him though I dont know if that made a difference.

And one more thing when a girl asks you what her friend told you abt her what is the 'correct' thing to say? I said 'nothing bad' in this instance.

Any thoughts? Thanks gents.
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Quote: (04-24-2016 03:16 AM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  

What do you do when a girl gives you her number, you text her, and she either flakes on the date or never responds? This happens a lot because I got to a University and I'm not sure if I should cut them off when I see them or say hi and stay in a chippy attitude.


You can say hello to them but keep walking. Don't waste your time engaging any more than that, but if other girls see you being rude to another girl, that's not going to help you either.
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