So to get my feet wet back in the dating game, I've been doing the online thing for several months. I get a decent amount of interest (maybe 40 views a week) on OKC, and have gotten a couple lays from that, along with several chicks who were definitely interested that flaked after the first date, quite likely due to my newbie game.
I'd like to gain more experience doing the daygame thing, as OKC hasn't been as great now that the summer's over. I've been trying to make some approaches over the past couple months, but in my area I've been finding it extremely difficult - I've gotten maybe 3 numbers over the past two months and none of them went anywhere (no reply to initial text or flake on date).
I live in the suburbs of a major Northeastern city (not NYC). I've been attempting some coffeeshop stuff during the day when I have time, and have looked over some of the threads/texts here on the site. I'm in my mid 30s and I'd say my target demographic is the 25-35 range.
The women who show up into the local Starbucks around here during the day are almost entirely white, and tend to fall into these categories:
a) College girls well under the age of 25. I have extremely little luck approaching these girls. Deeply embedded in their phones, for the most part they almost seem autistic to me. Even though I've been told I look young for my age, I get the sense they consider me a friendly dad type at best. And they almost never spend any time in the shop alone - they usually run in packs of at least two or more.
b) Women who appear to be between the ages of 25-35, but who are with a dude, or have a ring, or have kids in tow. 'Nuff said. The majority of women in that age range out here in the 'burbs fall into this category.
c) Women who appear to be between the ages of 25-35, in groups.
c) Women who come into the store, grab their stuff, and bounce out ASAP. Probably only 20% of the chicks I see come into the store spend any significant time inside.
d) Women by themselves who appear to be in the target age range. Often have headphones in their ears, and even when not, bitch shields are up a mile high.
I think the main issue is that in the suburbs, the majority of women who are not college-aged are going to be settled down/married with kids and not approachable.
And I feel the disconnect between myself and women under the age of 25 is too great to overcome. I almost don't find some of them attractive because they seem too much like children - particularly when they talk.
I'm stuck out here for at least another couple of months, then I'm hoping to move. Any suggestions for the meantime? Change of venue? Change of strategy? My style seems to be good enough in pictures online to get a decent amount of attention - anything that could be turning people off in person that I should check?
I'd like to gain more experience doing the daygame thing, as OKC hasn't been as great now that the summer's over. I've been trying to make some approaches over the past couple months, but in my area I've been finding it extremely difficult - I've gotten maybe 3 numbers over the past two months and none of them went anywhere (no reply to initial text or flake on date).
I live in the suburbs of a major Northeastern city (not NYC). I've been attempting some coffeeshop stuff during the day when I have time, and have looked over some of the threads/texts here on the site. I'm in my mid 30s and I'd say my target demographic is the 25-35 range.
The women who show up into the local Starbucks around here during the day are almost entirely white, and tend to fall into these categories:
a) College girls well under the age of 25. I have extremely little luck approaching these girls. Deeply embedded in their phones, for the most part they almost seem autistic to me. Even though I've been told I look young for my age, I get the sense they consider me a friendly dad type at best. And they almost never spend any time in the shop alone - they usually run in packs of at least two or more.
b) Women who appear to be between the ages of 25-35, but who are with a dude, or have a ring, or have kids in tow. 'Nuff said. The majority of women in that age range out here in the 'burbs fall into this category.
c) Women who appear to be between the ages of 25-35, in groups.
c) Women who come into the store, grab their stuff, and bounce out ASAP. Probably only 20% of the chicks I see come into the store spend any significant time inside.
d) Women by themselves who appear to be in the target age range. Often have headphones in their ears, and even when not, bitch shields are up a mile high.
I think the main issue is that in the suburbs, the majority of women who are not college-aged are going to be settled down/married with kids and not approachable.
And I feel the disconnect between myself and women under the age of 25 is too great to overcome. I almost don't find some of them attractive because they seem too much like children - particularly when they talk.
I'm stuck out here for at least another couple of months, then I'm hoping to move. Any suggestions for the meantime? Change of venue? Change of strategy? My style seems to be good enough in pictures online to get a decent amount of attention - anything that could be turning people off in person that I should check?