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It's pretty easy if you have GAME/FRAME, there's a few guys I can reference on the forum that in that age range and still pull young girls.
I'm not talking about gaming girls that young just for sex. I'm talking about getting girls that young when you're 35+ to want to marry you and have kids, assuming you're not a celebrity or very rich. Are you talking about the same thing? I'm not surprised that some men are able to pull younger girls for casual sex, and maybe they're curious about experiencing their first older man. But, I doubt that these flings often turn into healthy marriages with kids. Maybe I'm wrong, which is why I made this post to see if anyone here was successful in marrying a girl 10-15 years younger.
I'm 27.
My goals are to have a family one day. I realize it's a long battle. It's not like I'm gonna wake up one day when I'm 35 and say hey it's time to go get that wife. I want to start the process early, as I think it would only get exponentially harder later on. It does sound nice to be able to wait until I'm 30-35 and bang sluts until then, and then find someone 10-15 years younger, but I worry that when I'm 35, it'll be harder to find those young, healthy, fertile, undrugged, good women to have children with. Which is the original question of the post. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking long game. Long-term gratification, vs short-term. I am sort of scared of getting old in my 40s and 50s and finding my wife turning into not very attractive, but based on some of the posts I've been reading on RVF, I hope by then maybe I'll be able to have mistresses on the side, for example, if she'd ever travel to Hungary to visit the family, etc. I hope she would never find out, or maybe I could have a conversation with her about my sexual needs and hope she'd understand.
I categorize girls generally into casual sex or marriage material. For most girls in the states, I discover many serious red flags almost immediately which places them into the first bucket. I was born in Russia, raised by two Russians who themselves are very traditional, and have dual citizenship in the states, moved here when I was a little kid, so am not per-se your typical American dude, but still well assimilated into the culture. With this foreign one, I've spent about 15 days with her physically, 5 days in Budapest, 10 days here, and we've been skyping ~once a week for the past 3 months, and so far not too many red flags, with the only serious red flag being the parents' divorce. So far, she is not in the first bucket, compared to some other girls I've met here who fall into the slut bucket almost within an hour of meeting them. Only possible dealbreaker that I may be facing is that she's still extremely shy, and doesn't open up much, which sometimes comes off very boring, and insecure. Part of it is probably exacerbated by her English being a second language, and not familiar with America. I told her I'm thinking of visiting her in Budapest this winter, and this time I'll possibly stay for a whole month. By then, I told her I hope that she opens up more. If she doesn't and remains super shy, I'll have to end it.
Even though her two parents are divorced, I wouldn't say she has a super dysfunctional family. Her parents were married 15 years before they divorced. She still maintains a good relationship with her father, and her relationship with her mother has been getting better, although she resents her mother for having lovers on the side in Hungary while the father worked in Germany. Furthermore, she has an older brother that looks after her very well and always on my ass to make sure I'm not trying to lead her on. We're good friends. I actually met her brother 4 years ago when I visited Hungary, and this time when I came to visit him, he introduced me to his sister. Also, she lives with her grandmother so they're all pretty much well connected.
I'm not in an "exclusive" relationship with her at the moment, mainly because I refuse to do long distance (I haven't told her that part, but it's pretty much implied), so I don't believe that I'm putting her on the pedestal. Keep in mind, we've already had sex plenty of times, and she's generally pretty submissive, wants me to be in charge, no problem there; actually, it's sort of becoming some what a turn off since I almost have to do everything for her, both outside the bedroom and in it. But, we're still in the 'getting to know each other' phase, so I hope this improves. She is very serious about trying to find a way to come to America so she could be closer to me, as I told her that my future is here in America. I'm sure the possibility of raising a family in America to her is very attractive, although she's good about not getting too excited about that, says she doesn't care if I'm in America or in Siberia, she wants to come see me wherever I am, but I still must be careful about that. Still, so far I think she really is attracted to me, but I remain cautious. A bit random, but she claims to have orgasmed when I was touching her at a concert with her clothes on, says it's how I make her feel, and that it's me. Of course, I take that with a grain of salt, it could be just what I want to hear. Just re-assuring to me that she does find me attractive, and isn't trying to make some odd elaborate plot to get a free ride into America. But honestly I don't pretend to understand female biology, but so far I believe the signs that she's into me, and of course the prospect of coming to America may play into that, too.
I never asked her, but she told me on her own that she has not slept with anyone while I was in the US and she in Budapest for the past 3 months. Frankly, I believe her, but it doesn't matter if she did or not. I tell her that's not any of my business, and she's not obligated to tell me because we're not in the "exclusive" phase. I think she implied she wants things to be "exclusive" but I kinda brushed her off. I've been banging a girl or two here in the states, casual sex, and plan on continuing to do so; I haven't told her this per-se, but I think she knows it. I think she's smart enough not to confront me on this matter, because I won't do long distance. I tell her the truth (and it really is the truth) is that I'm only pursuing her at the moment, and not pursuing anyone else (banging some girls here for fun is not pursuing them). I think I was drunk and implied to her that I do hook up with some girls here and there, but nothing serious (I don't think she liked it, but probably understands, i.e., long distance, etc). Which is a stronger incentive for her to try to come here. I tell her that if she was here with me or I in Budapest, then it'd just be me and her. In a way, I kinda like this long-distance buffer as it gives me an excuse to keep things not exclusive.