Anyone hoping for a prequel reboot?)
"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
Quote: (05-30-2018 06:11 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
That's a perfect example of why some groups are brilliant together but shit apart. There's a few bands that come to mind where they tried to work individually and sucked ass without the entire group checking each other.
Quote: (05-30-2018 11:36 PM)questor70 Wrote:
Quote: (05-30-2018 06:11 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
That's a perfect example of why some groups are brilliant together but shit apart. There's a few bands that come to mind where they tried to work individually and sucked ass without the entire group checking each other.
Excellent point. The first two Star Wars films were really happy accidents in a lot of ways, especially the first one, which changed a lot in the editing.
There is really no substitute for the man-hours required to world-build at a Tolkien-like OCD level. Lucas really didn't have anywhere near the source material I once imagined he had as a child and it was sort of cobbled together, which is still how Star Wars is done today--and it shows in a jarring amount of incoherence, like the tonal shift between TFA and TLJ.
In retrospect, the level of macro-level planning that goes into the MCU films is more of the model for franchises going forward, which is a new innovation in Hollywood and something that hasn't been duplicated anywhere else...and even with MCU they were drawing upon decades of existing comic book lore.
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TUESDAY BOX OFFICE
1.Solo: A Star Wars Story$7,295,767
2.Deadpool 2 $5,346,203
3.Avengers: Infinity War$1,978,217
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Solo: A Marketing Disaster Story
After Scott Rhodie received a $77 ticket to watch Solo: A Star Wars Story three hours before anyone else in Australia, he was more than a little disappointed after he realised 400 of the 500-strong crowd were paid actors.
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So a few of us got to chatting to more people and found out that out of the 500 people needed, they had only sold 100 or so tickets. The rest of the 500 was made up of paid actors, paid extras etc.
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Everyone received numbers and were told to stand in a designated place, so they could film 500 people with light up things on their hand. A drone took images and video, to show all these ‘fans’ making a Millenium Falcon.
Quote: (05-30-2018 04:38 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:
Kasdan even said what if we have Luke put on the Vader helmet at the end of VI and say "Now I'm Vader". Jesus the cringe, good job Lucas vetoed.
Quote: (06-01-2018 02:36 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:
Quote: (05-30-2018 04:38 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:
Kasdan even said what if we have Luke put on the Vader helmet at the end of VI and say "Now I'm Vader". Jesus the cringe, good job Lucas vetoed.
You know what, that would have been great. It would be the "Red Pilling" of Luke, the point where he's seen and learned enough to turn to the dark side, like his father.
Lucas ended up doing that story using Anakin in the prequels but did a bad job of it.
Quote: (06-01-2018 02:36 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:
Quote: (05-30-2018 04:38 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:
Kasdan even said what if we have Luke put on the Vader helmet at the end of VI and say "Now I'm Vader". Jesus the cringe, good job Lucas vetoed.
You know what, that would have been great. It would be the "Red Pilling" of Luke, the point where he's seen and learned enough to turn to the dark side, like his father.
Lucas ended up doing that story using Anakin in the prequels but did a bad job of it.
Quote: (06-01-2018 11:18 AM)christpuncher Wrote:
I still really like all the prequels. The overall story and most characters were great. It just needed to ditch the gungans in 1, the overdone droid jokes in 2, the horrible love story dialogue in 2 and 3, and general grievous in 3. Everything else about them was great. And there really needed to be some assassinations of key Jedi in 2 and 3 by palpatine as a precursor to war, instead of the order 66 plot.
Quote: (05-30-2018 11:36 PM)questor70 Wrote:
Quote: (05-30-2018 06:11 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
That's a perfect example of why some groups are brilliant together but shit apart. There's a few bands that come to mind where they tried to work individually and sucked ass without the entire group checking each other.
Excellent point. The first two Star Wars films were really happy accidents in a lot of ways, especially the first one, which changed a lot in the editing.
There is really no substitute for the man-hours required to world-build at a Tolkien-like OCD level. Lucas really didn't have anywhere near the source material I once imagined he had as a child and it was sort of cobbled together, which is still how Star Wars is done today--and it shows in a jarring amount of incoherence, like the tonal shift between TFA and TLJ.
In retrospect, the level of macro-level planning that goes into the MCU films is more of the model for franchises going forward, which is a new innovation in Hollywood and something that hasn't been duplicated anywhere else...and even with MCU they were drawing upon decades of existing comic book lore.
Quote: (06-01-2018 09:37 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:
...I think if you took the three films and edited out all the kiddie crap leaving only the grander elements it would actually make one really good film.
Quote: (06-02-2018 03:51 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
But his errors were honest - he really tried to craft a great story.
Quote: (06-02-2018 07:31 AM)questor70 Wrote:
Quote: (05-31-2018 08:11 PM)beta_plus Wrote:
Does there really need to be a jump-cut after every...single...sentence? It makes him look like fucking Max Headroom (now I'm dating myself).
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On its second Friday, "Solo" only made $8.1 million, a staggering 77 percent drop from the already low $35.3 million the "Star Wars" anthology film made on its opening day.
Quote: (06-01-2018 09:37 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:
I didn't actually mind the prequels in terms of the meatier aspects of the films. Subversives running both sides of the same war in order to gain total power over the galaxy. Building secret armies. Using witless players and disposing of them when they're no longer useful. Robed super-assassins tasked with dropping behind enemy lines and murdering enemy leaders. Armadas blockading entire planets. That's heavy stuff.
I think if you took the three films and edited out all the kiddie crap leaving only the grander elements it would actually make one really good film.