in which country looks count the most and in which country girls approach the most
08-30-2015, 08:12 AM
Looks most important: U.S.
Girls will approach the most: Liberia
Girls will approach the most: Liberia
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
Quote: (08-30-2015 06:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
For some reason I feel like a lot of guys on these forums have good looks and thus they take girls approaching them for granted. I am already going to the gym 5x a week and any more athletics and it will feel like a full time job. Girls can't see my 6-pack if I have a dress shirt on, all they see is a slim guy. So, the issue is that some of us (including myself) can't change certain things about our appearance. For example, I look older than my age which hurts me in many clubs/bars where the crowd is younger. Also, I have plenty of disposable income to dress well and do but with my mediocre facials aesthetics if I just stood like a wall-flower at a bar or watched ESPN with a drink I would never get any action. Therefore, for those of us with mediocre looks cold approaching is a must.
Quote: (08-30-2015 06:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
For some reason I feel like a lot of guys on these forums have good looks and thus they take girls approaching them for granted. I am already going to the gym 5x a week and any more athletics and it will feel like a full time job. Girls can't see my 6-pack if I have a dress shirt on, all they see is a slim guy. So, the issue is that some of us (including myself) can't change certain things about our appearance. For example, I look older than my age which hurts me in many clubs/bars where the crowd is younger. Also, I have plenty of disposable income to dress well and do but with my mediocre facials aesthetics if I just stood like a wall-flower at a bar or watched ESPN with a drink I would never get any action. Therefore, for those of us with mediocre looks cold approaching is a must.
Quote: (08-30-2015 07:15 PM)Tresdus Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 06:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
For some reason I feel like a lot of guys on these forums have good looks and thus they take girls approaching them for granted. I am already going to the gym 5x a week and any more athletics and it will feel like a full time job. Girls can't see my 6-pack if I have a dress shirt on, all they see is a slim guy. So, the issue is that some of us (including myself) can't change certain things about our appearance. For example, I look older than my age which hurts me in many clubs/bars where the crowd is younger. Also, I have plenty of disposable income to dress well and do but with my mediocre facials aesthetics if I just stood like a wall-flower at a bar or watched ESPN with a drink I would never get any action. Therefore, for those of us with mediocre looks cold approaching is a must.
Yeah that's bullshit. Your style probably sucks. Walk around like this guy (if you actually lift) and girls will approach you
https://instagram.com/p/6WDRsovcPP/?take...evecook_32
Quote: (08-30-2015 07:15 PM)Tresdus Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 06:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
For some reason I feel like a lot of guys on these forums have good looks and thus they take girls approaching them for granted. I am already going to the gym 5x a week and any more athletics and it will feel like a full time job. Girls can't see my 6-pack if I have a dress shirt on, all they see is a slim guy. So, the issue is that some of us (including myself) can't change certain things about our appearance. For example, I look older than my age which hurts me in many clubs/bars where the crowd is younger. Also, I have plenty of disposable income to dress well and do but with my mediocre facials aesthetics if I just stood like a wall-flower at a bar or watched ESPN with a drink I would never get any action. Therefore, for those of us with mediocre looks cold approaching is a must.
Yeah that's bullshit. Your style probably sucks. Walk around like this guy (if you actually lift) and girls will approach you
https://instagram.com/p/6WDRsovcPP/?take...evecook_32
Quote: (08-30-2015 09:37 PM)TripleG Wrote:
@Tresdus, your home country says Ukraine. That's all I need to know to understand that you can't relate to some of us who live in competitive cities like Washington, DC, Toronto, or London.
When I visited Kiev several years back and later Crimea I did very well in clubs but so do most of the guys from these forums.
Anyways, there is a reason why PUA culture is so big here in the west and that is because average guys need it...it takes more than just style and being built to get noticed, you need to be funny, cocky, interesting, and above all approach. It pisses me off when someone here like yourself says that you just need to look good and girls will approach...that runs contrary to most of the teachings of game and seduction arts, there is a reason why Roosh wrote multiple books on approaching.
Quote: (08-30-2015 09:36 PM)Adrenaline Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 07:15 PM)Tresdus Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 06:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 02:07 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
Quote: (08-30-2015 01:14 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Whoever says that there is a western country where women approach guys is bullshitting. Unless one is model good looking (which I definitely am not) it just won't happen and strong game will always be required.
I've been to near 60 countries and have had to do almost all first approaches myself. Occasionally a drunk girl will approach me on the dance floor or at the bar but I don't count those examples as it may happen anywhere. Now, in some countries like Russia I got more IOI's than USA but I believe that is strictly due to speaking English and accented Russian in crowded places. Also, everywhere in USA looks matter a lot, especially since no matter what large city one go's out in the ratio will always be a sausage-fest.
I don't get approached in Thailand. I do get approached in California.
Last night a girl stopped me as I was leaving and said "Hey, I wanted to tell you that you look really great. I think we've met before a few years ago and you look even better now. You look really great."
It's not bullshit, I get approached in western countries. I also dress well (leather boots, selvedge denim, navy v/crew neck) and have a body that girls like to touch.
Game can be tough for some guys. Not all of us will have the same experiences. So for you to say it's bullshit just means you're not having the same experience that some of us are, and you need to work harder in the gym and on your appearance.
Just like when I was 18/19 and had a friend a couple years older than me who claimed to fuck 100 girls. I told him he was full of shit and there was no way he'd fucked that many girls, because I'd only fucked about 8-10. Turns out he was probably telling the truth, and I couldn't fathom it because I wasn't on his level yet. I still had work to do before I could understand how what he was saying was possible.
For some reason I feel like a lot of guys on these forums have good looks and thus they take girls approaching them for granted. I am already going to the gym 5x a week and any more athletics and it will feel like a full time job. Girls can't see my 6-pack if I have a dress shirt on, all they see is a slim guy. So, the issue is that some of us (including myself) can't change certain things about our appearance. For example, I look older than my age which hurts me in many clubs/bars where the crowd is younger. Also, I have plenty of disposable income to dress well and do but with my mediocre facials aesthetics if I just stood like a wall-flower at a bar or watched ESPN with a drink I would never get any action. Therefore, for those of us with mediocre looks cold approaching is a must.
Yeah that's bullshit. Your style probably sucks. Walk around like this guy (if you actually lift) and girls will approach you
https://instagram.com/p/6WDRsovcPP/?take...evecook_32
Not everyone who lifts is as big as that guy. That takes years of dedicated lifting + a religious, high calorie diet which would see him eating at least 6 clean meals a day. The fact is most people don't have the time to do all that working out/eating, or they play a sport which requires being able to run, so lift for a nice, lean body instead. This is nowhere near as noticeable when clothed, although you would get some attention at the beach.
You're also underestimating facial attractiveness here. Facial aesthetics will always be number one when it comes to initial attraction and if you're unattractive in that department, you won't get approached no matter how jacked you get. I would advise someone in that position to groom their face to get the most out of their potential. Experiment with facial hair, get an experienced barber to cut your hair so it 100% suits the shape of your face and your features, clean up your skin if need be, get a tan, hell use some moderate make up if you have to. And yes, dress like a model, even if you don't look like one. Lifting is not a magical solution to an otherwise unappealing person, other than in rare circumstances where men dedicate their entire lives to it.
Quote: (08-31-2015 04:57 AM)kral_belial Wrote:
Another thing: What about quality? I won't be happy if semi-lesbian Latino fatties approach me in say California. I'd prefer doing the approaches myself in Russia on slim women who are 7.5+.