[Distant Light]

I find rating systems more of a PERSONAL and SUBJECTIVE filter based on what you yourself find appealing...

For instance, I love eastern euro models BUT I am equally fascinated by hipster chicks and sort of flop back and forth every 3 or so months. What is even more hilarious is the black model you guys mentioned...



I've actually met her in real life...SHE IS HOT!!!!

See, I was walking through the venue and I spotted a tall black chick who oozed sex appeal. She also was very stylish, I had to speak to her. I approach her and INSTANTLY I feel a very feminine russian type of vibe. She told me her name and I was thinking "holy fuck!!! I told my mother years ago that the model on oprah is highly unattractive...Here she is, in real life and I'm drawn to her."

She ended up hanging out with me BUT I thought she was married. Had I known she wasn't, I would've most likely hung out with her more.

Funny thing is, when it comes to black women, I only like dark skin black women. Being in high end venues you always see that rare drop dead gorgeous black woman who just reeks of sex appeal.

A handful of black chicks that I know thanks to the "high end" scene... (which isn't common to see in the real world)




















It's funny because I once took a black model with me to check out the hip hop scene when she first moved to NY. By far the hottest chick in the venue, a big name DJ manager ended up inviting her to the strip club with some rappers. She went and came back to me later on.

Most of these black chicks I meet have that eastern euro feminine vibe and set the bar real high for other black chicks that I used to see growing up.

P.S...Ironically, I get approached by MEN way more when I'm walking arm in arm with a hot black chick. My friend always instigates it saying me and the black chick look like a power couple.

[InternationalPlayboy]

Its simple. An 8-10 gets the attention from everyone in the room. The girls and guys both eye fuck the crap out of her. Its easy to see in any social place who those girls are. When a 8-10 girl comes into a cafe, everything briefly stops. Hard to describe, easy to know.

This is the most "balanced" way to tell what the current local standards are. Walk with your woman, see who checks you out. "Power couple" as they like to call it.

[samsamsam]

No idea where to really ask my question.

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Not saying I am in a position to hit this. But do her legs hint that she will blow up some day? I know this is a total random question. But there is a difference between a bang and something more long term.

These legs are not ideally slender to me. I am a legs and tits guy more than an ass guy. But she hints at blowing up long term. Borderline cankles.

[YossariansRight]

I don't use numbers per se, I use ratings, like a numismatist.

"Gorgeous": Classic beauty. Very rare in reality. I'd translate this as 9-10.

"Very Pretty": I'd translate this rating to be 7.5-9.

"Pretty": 6-7.5.

"Attractive": 5-6.

"Ehhh/Moby the sled dog": Below 5.

[sixsix]

(06-16-2015 09:51 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Not saying I am in a position to hit this. But do her legs hint that she will blow up some day? I know this is a total random question. But there is a difference between a bang and something more long term.

These legs are not ideally slender to me. I am a legs and tits guy more than an ass guy. But she hints at blowing up long term. Borderline cankles.

Besides evaluating her mindset, diet and workout habits and social environment, if you want to predict whether or not a girl is going to get fat, look at her upper arms and her mother.

Do her family members and friends let themselves go when they age? Or do they value their health and appearance? It determines what is acceptable for this girl. She will be less likely to get fat when she knows she would be judged for it.

What about her genetics? While some thin girls achieve their body against all biological odds by training hard, and will thus expand when less active, others just don't get fat easily. Check their upper arms. And if all her family members are slim, it almost certainly genetic.

This girl doesn't look like she's going to blow up anytime soon.

[Ingocnito]

(06-16-2015 09:51 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

No idea where to really ask my question.

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Not saying I am in a position to hit this. But do her legs hint that she will blow up some day? I know this is a total random question. But there is a difference between a bang and something more long term.

These legs are not ideally slender to me. I am a legs and tits guy more than an ass guy. But she hints at blowing up long term. Borderline cankles.

Watch the tapering of the lower part of the leg. When her calves remain somewhat thick beyond the lower part of the calf muscle, trailing down towards the ankles, you have the potential for some boomage in the leg category.

I like a bit of that, thick muscular legs that is, on a woman when she's young, but it never fairs well past 30yo.

[samsamsam]

^^^ that is what I thought. Some girls when young I guess just starve themselves. Someone told me something about looking at the woman's knees to show her true build.

sixsix, I am being serious. At some point i'd to get into a LTR/marriage and just wanted to see if there were some legit signs of a fat bomb waiting to happen.

[RedPillUK]

She probably just isn't athletic, only skinny, thats why she has legs like that.

I will take the bait here.

For me my scale is very simple.
Only blonde white girls can be 10s.
Very attractive white girls can be 9s. Blondes, brunettes, redheads
I've never seen a black, asian or latina girl go into the 9 category. I think the sexiest ones are 8s.

There's a scene in Way of the Dragon with Bruce Lee, where he's meeting a really attractive asian girl. She's very cute and the best girl to look at it in Bruce Lee films. But then this absolutely stunning Italian brunette sits by and flirts with Bruce, and absolutely blows the asian girl away in terms of beauty. That's when I realised I don't believe the hottest asians compare to the hottest white girls.

Maybe my racism will upset people, sorry but that's just what I like. My dad has different preferences to me likes asian/latina girls more than me. Maybe its something to do with genes that decide what you like.

I'm half white English and half mexican, for everyones information.

[the high]

I believe that virtually all dating preferences is due to conditioning. No one race is objectively more attractive than another; its all relative.

What people watch/have watched throughout their lives media wise, where they grew up, their cultural upbringing etc. all shape what they find attractive. Trace the dots and you'll see why some guys love Asians, some guys love White girls, some guys love Latinas so on and so forth.

There are some universal beauty standards but these transcend race.

[CH-Toronto]

(06-17-2015 10:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

Maybe my racism will upset people, sorry but that's just what I like. My dad has different preferences to me likes asian/latina girls more than me. Maybe its something to do with genes that decide what you like.

I'm half white English and half mexican, for everyones information.

It's not so much racist as it is, "Really? "

[RedPillUK]

Yes, really, that is how I feel. You may as well have said wow, just wow.

[samsamsam]

Everyone defines what things mean to themselves.

And as the expression goes, opinions are like assholes everyone has them.

This question (not mine about the chick) was started probably for a theoretical discussion because no one can be right in this discussion. So just enjoy the banter and take from it what you will.

[The Beast1]

It doesn't there shouldn't be 9s and 10s because honestly a lot of guys who say, "she's a 10!" I look at her and go ick.

Here's a better scale, label women 1-8. You get far less variance and more accuracy because one man's 8 is another man's 7. Basically anything over 6 denotes fuckability with 8 being mother of ones child.

I'm not racist. I do not find most black women attractive, nor would I stick around longer than a passing bang.

[Travesty]

(06-17-2015 10:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

She probably just isn't athletic, only skinny, thats why she has legs like that.

I will take the bait here.

For me my scale is very simple.
Only blonde white girls can be 10s.
Very attractive white girls can be 9s. Blondes, brunettes, redheads
I've never seen a black, asian or latina girl go into the 9 category. I think the sexiest ones are 8s.

There's a scene in Way of the Dragon with Bruce Lee, where he's meeting a really attractive asian girl. She's very cute and the best girl to look at it in Bruce Lee films. But then this absolutely stunning Italian brunette sits by and flirts with Bruce, and absolutely blows the asian girl away in terms of beauty. That's when I realised I don't believe the hottest asians compare to the hottest white girls.

Maybe my racism will upset people, sorry but that's just what I like. My dad has different preferences to me likes asian/latina girls more than me. Maybe its something to do with genes that decide what you like.

I'm half white English and half mexican, for everyones information.

I agree I think the hottest white chicks are the hottest women overall by a long stretch. I think if you did a global survey most men would agree. I don't think it is conditioned it is just how it is.

Latinas and Asians are more attractive on the average.

White chicks hit both sides of the spectrum a lot harder.

[the high]

^^^^In the West? For sure.

Globally. Naw.

You mean to tell me the average man in Guangdong thinks a white chick is hotter than a Chinese chick?
The average man in Nairobi thinks a white chick is hotter than a Kenyan chick?
The average man in Busan thinks a white chick is hotter than a Korean chick?

Most of the world population consists of minorities, hell Han Chinese alone are 20%, and studies (and anecdotal evidence) show that most people are most attracted to their own race so it wouldn't even be statistically possible for whites to win a global survey.

[YossariansRight]

To me, a 10 (what I refer to as "Gorgeous") is a 10 regardless of race.

Obviously, I'm talking when these women were young and their walls weren't anywhere to be seen:

Raquel Welch = Halle Berry = Christie Brinkley = Catherine Deneuve = Ann Margret

To me a "10" is like a (pick your sport) Hall of Fame player: Their belonging there is beyond debate.

[oubliette]

White women are rated high, and non-whites low, because of facial symmetry emanating from skull structure (genetics).

Whites have genetically selected for more sought after traits. Whites have unique eye and hair colors along with sharp noses and angular faces. All of these traits are perceived as more attractive and healthier. Non-whites especially in primitive areas had no need to reproduce in this manner and have more base traits (flattened nose, large lips, round face, coarse hair, etc).

Additionally, fair skin universally means less labor in the hot sun is being done, which means less danger of disease or harm. Around 75% of American blacks today are upwards of 25% white. So, over time their symmetry will increase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry
http://sites.psu.edu/evolutionofhumansex...ctiveness/

[rungoodinc]

To me, 8s and up must be a legitimate triple threat: face, tits and ass.

[Ingocnito]

(06-17-2015 09:33 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

To me, a 10 (what I refer to as "Gorgeous") is a 10 regardless of race.

Obviously, I'm talking when these women were young and their walls weren't anywhere to be seen:

Raquel Welch = Halle Berry = Christie Brinkley = Catherine Deneuve = Ann Margret

To me a "10" is like a (pick your sport) Hall of Fame player: Their belonging there is beyond debate.

I sat down at a modeling agency party in Cleveland that my buddy's sister got us into, and flirted with Halle Berry for 10 minutes. I had her laughing pretty hard a few times before the multi-millionaire prick that threw it and owned the agency came over and AMOGed me. He had a 90' yacht outside, probably the biggest personal boat I'd seen to date on the great lakes.

The funny part was I was 80% sure it was her but knew if it was, being the tool bag that stops and makes a point to point out of it would kill the interaction. So when I saw her date, the owner, walking up out of my peripheral vision, I quietly said :"Are you.." and never said her name, and she said:"Yea, I am..." I said;"I thought so..." She was really cool and chill, had a very disarming personality that made me comfortable as hell chatting with her. No one said shit about any high level actors being there so I think very few even realized it was her except me and another guy in our band. I'd rate Halle Berry as a 8.5-9 in looks back then, it was apx. 15 years ago... but her personality puts her top shelf for sure.

[almohajem]

I have found that personal preference plays here. There is a +-2 deviation depending on personal preference but rarely more than 2 points.

For example, a girl that is 6. Some guy might see it as an 8, and another one as a very average 5. But it's not possible to rate it 3 and 10 by two different guys.

I have found the same to be with women. I like to believe that I'm 6-7 on looks. Some girls find me average, and a "small" number find me extremely hot and handsome (when not drunk). This is probably because 6-7 + 2 is on the 8-9 range.

This is probably why game is a numbers game. I have found that girls that find me sexy and hot, go for the sex directly and often. I had a girl that go to my place almost daily (and sometimes twice a day) just because she thinks I'm very hot. (even though she has a 9-10 body and a large network of friends).

[Deepdiver]

In the modern world you can't manage what you can't measure. Many studies prove that if a man or woman is attractive they basically have a blessed life compared to the rest of the population. People like to associate with and buy products and services from attractive people. This can be a real wealth generator in the age of social media and instant YouTube fame. Out side of the comedic comic relief personalities (Old cliche funny people look funny)... the surest way to insure a positive reception on the internet is via looks and right after that personality. Case in point Marina Orlova nanny turned internet hottie was too short to model and too much of an accent to act but took her knowledge of the etymology of words with her Russia MA in philology to become rich and famous with brains, wit, beauty and a lot of giggly jiggly. She is famous for her sexy giggly jiggly tube tube double-entendre definitions of words thus HotForWords has garnered nearly 1 Billion YouTube hits from the same 5 Million viewers who can't get enough of her antics. Antics which lately include channeling her inner abstract artiste by taking ketchup bottles full of vivid colored paints squirting them on a canvas on the floor and rolling around in it creating her new body art - the effect that of Goldie Hawn from her early laugh in days kooky, sexy and serious bangability.

Point is in the USA if a woman wants to cultivate a male following face, body and personality matter but combine a cute face with a SI type swimsuit model rack C or preferably firm D cup and you have an explosive combination - big tits get big tips for a reason - I strongly suspect that the racked stacked and firmly packed Marina Orlova has a CA rack yes augmented - if you look close you can see the micro stitching under the breast where the saline or silicon implants are inserted - this adds to the archetype of fertile female beauty that north american men of all races crave... 5'5" to 6'1" Aerobics lean and toned body waist 70% of Breast and Hips ratio, attractive face, shiny healthy hair a great smile and pleasant personality is the archetype for the vast majority of men to be the mother of their children. Why - this standard gives your kids the best chance at a genetically blessed life.

The only exception is fashion models 5'9' to 6'1" size 2s flat chests and rail skinny supposedly because those in the industry maintain that clothes flow better on the cat walk in these body types - I personally think clothes flow better on the archetype bodies above and that the fashion industry dominated by homosexuals prefer women models who look like young boys.

Therefore if you are trying to determine why a particular face attracts you more than another fear not there is a very valid mathematical solution for you - turns out natural beauty is enumerated with the golden ration, and faces with perfect Fibonacci sequences "Phi" are considered to be the beauty ideal - all the way back to ancient Egypt ... here is a great article that gives you a series of measurements or upload you rotations faces to see which ones are mathematically likely to give you the most genetically attractive children - downside is subconsciously women are coded to want similar in their men which is why hideous nuclear sea beasts like me have to bring skillz and game to the table to attract and keep an 9+.

See: http://facethis.blogspot.com/2012/01/per...eauty.html

The author is a 9.67 out of a perfect 10 - now you can measure your targets real number on the 1 to 10 scale.

The beauty talent sourcers, recruiters and photographers secret weapon:
http://www.goldennumber.net/beauty/

“Beauty is in the phi of the beholder.”

It has long been said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and thought that beauty varies by race, culture or era. The evidence, however, shows that our perception of physical beauty is hard wired into our being and based on how closely the features of one’s face reflect phi in their proportions. The Golden Ratio appears extensively in the human face, as demonstrated in a 2009 university study on attractiveness and as illustrated by the video below of Florence Colgate, Britain’s “Most Perfect Face” of 2012, :

Inside secret to attracting on line hotties without having perfect game or world class skillz?

Photoshop Software can take an ordinary face and and apply a Marquardt beauty mask (Men or Women's) tweak it to fit the golden ratio face mask for either men or women (ideal ratios more masculine and square jawed for men and more feminie narrow jaw with high cheekbones and big doe eyes for women).

Tweak and morph your face pics to the ideal golden ratio face mask and watch your Tinder, Facebook and Instagram +'s and Likes and hits soar - just be sure to wear a ball cap and glasses on a sunny day when you meet so she does not squint too much wondering what is different about you and be sure to bring your A game if she is just not genetically subconsciously totally into you ;-)

You will thank me later.

[chyamor]

Changed some of those around based on my view. Would drop a few move but too lazy to devote that much time

[samsamsam]

God I love redheads. They age so badly though. But in their prime. Fuuuuuuuck.


End of news interruption. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[The Wire]

(09-03-2012 08:15 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

4.5 - boring
Not my type at all

haha wtf... 4.5?? This is the same girl.

[YossariansRight]

(06-19-2015 02:41 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(06-17-2015 09:33 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

To me, a 10 (what I refer to as "Gorgeous") is a 10 regardless of race.

Obviously, I'm talking when these women were young and their walls weren't anywhere to be seen:

Raquel Welch = Halle Berry = Christie Brinkley = Catherine Deneuve = Ann Margret

To me a "10" is like a (pick your sport) Hall of Fame player: Their belonging there is beyond debate.

I sat down at a modeling agency party in Cleveland that my buddy's sister got us into, and flirted with Halle Berry for 10 minutes. I had her laughing pretty hard a few times before the multi-millionaire prick that threw it and owned the agency came over and AMOGed me. He had a 90' yacht outside, probably the biggest personal boat I'd seen to date on the great lakes.

The funny part was I was 80% sure it was her but knew if it was, being the tool bag that stops and makes a point to point out of it would kill the interaction. So when I saw her date, the owner, walking up out of my peripheral vision, I quietly said :"Are you.." and never said her name, and she said:"Yea, I am..." I said;"I thought so..." She was really cool and chill, had a very disarming personality that made me comfortable as hell chatting with her. No one said shit about any high level actors being there so I think very few even realized it was her except me and another guy in our band. I'd rate Halle Berry as a 8.5-9 in looks back then, it was apx. 15 years ago... but her personality puts her top shelf for sure.

That's so cool man! Great memories right there.