I'd like to bounce this idea off the forum. I've been pondering the question of the Western man's emigration a bit more, after I concluded that "a man has two living choices: live in a mentally ill country, or live in a poor country." (http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9856-p...pid1053496)
I think it is fairly obvious to most Western men who frequent this forum, that you can sexually do much better for yourself abroad (East Europe, South America, Asia etc), and live with a higher quality of lifestyle overall (depending on the country and your home country). The government is the enemy of you and your posterity, the women are mentally and physically broken, you are taxed to death and beyond, your country is a sinking ship, and your freedom is becoming increasingly throttled.
The West has one advantage. It has money and it makes money. By example, the average American has a raw productivity north of $67 per hour, whilst the Thai produces $8.5 per hour. To maintain the same material standard of life in San Francisco as in Bangkok requires 3 times the money, not to mention the second-tier SEA cities. Compared to Osaka, it is about 2.3 times. Compared to Budapest, it is about 2.5 times. If you compare New York to Warsaw, it's 3.3 times. If you compare Toronto and Kiev, it's 2.5 times.
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...our_worked , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...y2=Bangkok , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...ity2=Osaka , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...2=Toronto]
To me, leaving the West is a no-brainer. It is the lifestyle equivalent of a man leaving India to make money in America. The non-West is the promised land. Sure, you'll have to learn a new language. If you're an American you'll have to leave your guns behind, but you probably won't need them anymore anyway, and you'll be leaving the rotund beasts behind too. If you're an Aussie, you'll have to take less trips to the beach each year, but at least you'll be able to drink outside, and you'll not get fined $100 for not wearing a bicycle helmet. If you're Canadian, you'll have to do without as many ski-trips, but... Toronto. If you're English... well you really have no excuse.
The problem is: how do you pull the money with you? The current strategies I've witnessed so far are:
What do people think?
I think it is fairly obvious to most Western men who frequent this forum, that you can sexually do much better for yourself abroad (East Europe, South America, Asia etc), and live with a higher quality of lifestyle overall (depending on the country and your home country). The government is the enemy of you and your posterity, the women are mentally and physically broken, you are taxed to death and beyond, your country is a sinking ship, and your freedom is becoming increasingly throttled.
The West has one advantage. It has money and it makes money. By example, the average American has a raw productivity north of $67 per hour, whilst the Thai produces $8.5 per hour. To maintain the same material standard of life in San Francisco as in Bangkok requires 3 times the money, not to mention the second-tier SEA cities. Compared to Osaka, it is about 2.3 times. Compared to Budapest, it is about 2.5 times. If you compare New York to Warsaw, it's 3.3 times. If you compare Toronto and Kiev, it's 2.5 times.
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...our_worked , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...y2=Bangkok , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...ity2=Osaka , http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/com...2=Toronto]
To me, leaving the West is a no-brainer. It is the lifestyle equivalent of a man leaving India to make money in America. The non-West is the promised land. Sure, you'll have to learn a new language. If you're an American you'll have to leave your guns behind, but you probably won't need them anymore anyway, and you'll be leaving the rotund beasts behind too. If you're an Aussie, you'll have to take less trips to the beach each year, but at least you'll be able to drink outside, and you'll not get fined $100 for not wearing a bicycle helmet. If you're Canadian, you'll have to do without as many ski-trips, but... Toronto. If you're English... well you really have no excuse.
The problem is: how do you pull the money with you? The current strategies I've witnessed so far are:
- Save up at a high paying Western job, spend it living overseas, repeat. Only possible with certain types of jobs, and depends on re-employment difficulty.
- Contracting / freelancing. The most successful cases of this I've seen, are when someone already had a reputation and contacts in their home country, and the work could all be done on computer.
- English teaching. The default go to job. Pay and job availability can be poor depending on country, and is an immediate dead-end job. This isn't a 'money pulling' job per se, but rides on the popularity of English as a second language.
- Expat workers. Those lucky or savvy folk who wormed their way into a high-paying expat package at a multinational company. Generally only available to the top men in a company / industry, and becoming less frequent.
- An online business of some sort.
- Some business that has been successfully fully delegated to a General Manager by the owner.
- The business partnership is formed with periodic emigration in mind. This is written into the operating agreement.
- The aim is to keep as many partners outside the host country as possible. There will always be one partner in the country to represent the company locally, to meet in person with local clients, and to manage everything that cannot be done by computer.
- An example could be: 4 partners, each partner in America for 3 months of the year, and the remaining time overseas.
- It would be possible because of how much work most companies do on computer, by phone, by email etc. There is no need for an accountant, an office clerk, most types of engineer, most managers, most types of salesmen or marketers, writers and editors, many types of lawyers, draftsmen, artists, and a whole lot of other workers, to be physically present in an office to get their work done.
- Every partner must maintain a high-speed internet connection at all times when overseas. Depending on what his roles are, the ability to choose country may be limited by time-zone. E.g. a manager or a salesman probably won't want to be working the night-shift to match the firms local day-shift.
- When in-company meetings are needed (they rarely are), they can be done by webcam etc.
What do people think?